Apple’s Swift rises into top 10 programming languages, supplanting Objective-C

“Apple’s open-source Swift has just broken into the top 10 programming languages, according to a quarterly ranking, in the process supplanting its predecessor on Apple platforms, Objective-C,” Roger Fingas reports for AppleInsider.

“The language’s position is based on data from GitHub and Stack Overflow, analysis firm RedMonk said this week,” Fingas reports. “The top five languages were JavaScript, Java, Python, PHP, and C#.”

Swift “is also said to have managed the feat at a record pace, reaching the top 10 in under four years,” Fingas reports.

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MacDailyNews Take: Swift is aptly-named.

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            1. Do you seriously want to say that it doesn’t. It forces the use of Objective C and Swift, while forbidding all others on iOS development. Technical merit aside, it’s a business achievement, and an anti-competitive one at that. Want to judge on merit, look at platforms where all are allowed.

            2. “Technical merit aside, it’s a business achievement, and an anti-competitive one at that.”

              We established it is Apple’s pool. There is nothing anti-competitive about that. Go build your own pool and do what you like in it. Or jump in the Android pool.

              In a nutshell: Apple built a brand new pool. Everyone mocked them. Apple’s pool got bigger and bigger and bigger. People still mocked them. Apple’s pool became enormous and all the developers hang out there. Now you are whining that Apple’s pool is too big and too nice and that isn’t fair.

              Cry me a river. Then file your anti-competitive lawsuit which has no grounds and no chance.

            3. “If this was a language that actually had to compete it may still be good but not “successful”.”

              Still crying and whining that Apple didn’t play fair? Get over it. Swift isn’t good, it’s fantastic. It’s fast, secure, enterprise-ready, and open source.

              Apple deserves every bit of their success. People like you laughed at the iPhone when it first came out. Admit it. You thought it was a dumb toy. Who is laughing now? Not you. You’re just crying.

            4. “And Swift went from nothing to top 10 by merit.”

              Now you’re crying about Apple having the foresight to build a better mobile experience, a better OS, a better platform, with better customers, and it attracts all the best developers.

              Then Apple releases a great programming language for their great ecosystem and whaddaya know developers flock to it and Swift becomes very popular.

              I wonder if you even know there are six languages to choose if you want to build an iOS app.

              You’re just mad that Apple was right and made all the right bets over the last decade. Now they reap their reward and it makes you cry.

            5. Developers have no choice but to flock to it… How many compiled languages? Just explaining the data, at least in part. Can I program iOS in Java? Pascal? Fortran? Compiled BASIC? No! I have to use Objective C or Swift. That doesn’t help Swifts usage stats?

            6. “Developers have no choice but to flock to it”

              That’s BS. Developers can choose to develop apps for any number of platforms and even when they choose iOS they don’t have to use Swift. They do use it because it’s better. Even Google is diving into Swift heavily and there are reports they’re going to adopt it for development in the future. Probably because it sucks sooooo much.

              Keep on crying about Apple. Like it or not developers are choosing Apple’s ecosystem and Swift is great.

            7. I’m not going to argue facts with you. Fact: If you want to code for iOS (1 billion users) you need to use old Objective C or Swift, and you cannot use other compilers. Thus the numbers are heavily market and policy influenced. Merit of Swift aside.

            8. “If you want to code for iOS (1 billion users) you need to use old Objective C or Swift”

              There you go again crying about Apple’s unfair advantage. Nobody gave Apple that advantage, they created it themselves all while being mocked for doing it. Now they’ve succeeded and all you can do is whine and cry.

              Get a grip. Apple created their own competitive advantage and it is paying off. You don’t get to cry about that, if you’re an adult.

            9. “So you admit an advantage yet I’m wrong….it’s not a merit based measure for Swift as a language. It a false comparison.”

              Swift has plenty of merit (there’s a reason Google is considering adopting it) and Apple has a huge advantage introducing any new language, service, or device. You are crying and whining that it isn’t fair. You might as well cry and whine about the success of the Apple Watch or Apple Music or anything else Apple does. Oh that’s right that’s all you do.

              Apple earned their advantage through more than a decade of smart work. Cry all you want. Life is tough, you better get a helmet.

            10. “it’s not a merit based measure for Swift as a language. It a false comparison.”

              It is not a false comparison BTW. It is what is happening in the real world. You might as well cry and whine that Wayne Gretzky doesn’t deserve to be called the greatest hockey player ever because he was born in Canada (unfair advantage because Canada’s junior leagues are where the world comes to learn the game) or because of his natural talent (that’s just luck of the draw) or because he started skating when he was two years old (unfair advantage being born into a family that loved hockey) or because he practiced obsessively (unfair advantage that he had the time to practice that much). People who hate Wayne Gretzky will argue against him in this fashion. As long as he isn’t cheating there’s no issue.

              Now you’ll argue Apple is cheating. They’re not. They earned their advantages and worked for them, now they reap the rewards. You better go helmet shopping soon. It is only going to get worse from here with Apple. On the bright side Apple’s continued and growing success will give you something to do. Everyone needs a hobby.

            11. Your analogy is BS. There’s technical merit, which I did not argue, and then there’s false comparison.
              Gretzy was the best, because he was the best, not because players from Quebec were forbidden, and only Ontario players allowed…

            12. “There’s technical merit, which I did not argue, and then there’s false comparison.”

              Swift has plenty of merit and it has all the advantages Apple is able to give it. If Wayne Gretzky grew up in Australia he would not have become the best hockey player. It took merit plus advantages for that to happen.

              Keep on crying about Apple’s advantages. It isn’t going to get any better for you, only worse.

            13. “If he were born in Australia he still would be allowed to play in the NHL if he were good enough, he would not be excluded by being born in Australia.”

              Without the advantage of being born inside the world’s greatest hockey ecosystem it is unlikely Wayne Gretzky would have become as good a player. He may not even have had the opportunity to play at all. He certainly would not have had the advantage and opportunity to develop his game to the same level.

              Canada has a lopsided number of the world’s best hockey players because of their ecosystem which develops and discovers players at every level. This hockey ecosystem is so good that players from all over the world move to Canada just to play in the junior leagues there.

              Being born in Canada is an unfair advantage when it comes to becoming a hockey player.

              The world is not a level playing field. Never was and never will be. You just keep on crying and whining about Apple’s unfair advantages.

              Is Swift in the top ten or not? Yes or no? The answer is yes. The rest of the discussion is just you crying no fair like a little kid.

            14. Enough. You’re defending Apple’s right to exclude. While I don’t agree with the exclusion, we’ve already agreed that the exclusions AND mandatory use exists. Swift enjoys an advantage over other’s and it’s not just technical merit. It’s a false comparison.

              It’s a lot like MS hypothetically forcing programmers to use MS compilers and not allowing others, and then bragging about the popularity of their compliers. MS never did that though. Bad as they were Apple is worse.

              Argue with math all you want. It just makes my job easier. The data is skewed. Period.

            15. “Is Swift in the top ten or not? Yes or No?”
              It’s yes, but…it gets a really big asterisk.

              And Canada does not have a nationality restriction in hockey, Canada is a democracy. Apple is not.

            16. “Enough. You’re defending Apple’s right to exclude. ”

              I’m not defending anything. Only commenting on how much you’re crying and whining about Apple not playing fair. All Apple did was work smart for over a decade and now gets to reap the rewards. That is enough to make you cry. If you weren’t so upset and crying about Apple you wouldn’t keep commenting.

              “It’s yes, but…it gets a really big asterisk.”

              The answer is yes. The only asterisk is you crying. Get over it. Maybe change your name to applecrybaby.

            17. “See ya… until next tiime.”

              What is this “tiime” you speak of? Swift would help you a lot, I hear it helps reduce code errors and you make a lot of errors when you type. Not being able to edit comments is no excuse. You are either articulate or you are not.

              Have fun crying today applecrybaby!

            18. The only time an asterisk is warranted is if an achievement was made illegally or by cheating. Apple hasn’t done either with Swift. The success of Swift is much like the success of Wayne Gretzky. Without growing up in the best ecosystem neither Swift nor Gretzky could have been as successful. The best ecosystem pushes you, helps you reach maximum potential, gives you all the support you need, and much more. I should thank you for going on and on about Gretzky. You’ve proven my point wonderfully. Want to cry some more or are you done crying yet? I’ll bet on more crying from you.

            19. No scientific measure would accept such a result without an asterisk. Give it up. The playing field is not level. Or rather, it indicates market dominance and manipulation more than anything.

            20. “The playing field is not level. Or rather, it indicates market dominance and manipulation more than anything.”

              You just can’t stop crying. I love it! There is no market dominance. People like you keep telling me Android is dominating and winning. The playing field isn’t level, it never is in the real world because some people work smarter than others. Apple created their advantage and they get to reap the rewards while people like you cry and cry and cry. #applecrybaby

              Do you see me crying about crappy old Java being number one? Nope. Why? Because I’m not androidcrybaby. That could change if Google adopts Swift though.

            21. I have never said ANYONE is winning. Schmuck! Why am I surprised you can’t get your facts straight.

              Let me help you….
              Subtract iOS programming from usage statistics, then get back to me with what you found. If it’s merit alone, Swift should be leading on platforms where other compilers are allowed.

            22. “Subtract iOS programming from usage statistics, then get back to me with what you found.”

              Let’s see, take away the ecosystem Apple built and the language Apple created doesn’t do as well? I love it! You’re admitting I’m right and that all you’re doing is crying and crying that Apple created the best ecosystem and is reaping the rewards of that work. No fair! iOS doesn’t count! No fair!

              Here’s a summary of what you said, “Go back in time and make sure Wayne Gretzky isn’t born in Canada and never gets to move to Canada and never gets to play hockey in Canada and he wouldn’t be so great.” No duh. Only a crying Gretzky hater would say that though. Just like you are crying about Apple. Take away iOS and Swift isn’t so great waaaaaaahhhh.

              I love it! Keep it coming! Keep on crying! This is great!

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