Why Google is willing to pay Apple $12 billion per year

“Apple receives a lot of money from Google just for making it the default search engine in Safari on iOS and macOS devices. Last year, the Alphabet company reportedly paid Apple $3 billion for the preferential placement,” Adam Levy reports for The Motley Fool. “That number may have tripled this year, according to analyst Rod Hall as reported by Business Insider. Hall says that number will rise to $12 billion next year.”

“Apple has listed licensing revenue from deals like the one it has with Google as the first source driving growth of Apple’s services revenue. That revelation in an SEC filing was a change from last year, when it listed the App Store first. That change suggests licensing revenue is growing extremely quickly for Apple,” Levy reports. “Why is Google willing to pay billions of dollars to Apple to ensure its place in Safari?”

“Apple has a 44% market share of U.S. smartphones and about a 12% share of PCs. But Apple users outpunch their weight when it comes to how much they use Google and click on search ads. Of all Google search ad clicks in the third quarter, 49% came from iOS and macOS devices, according to data from Merkle,” Levy reports. “Apple users represent historically higher value than Android users. Spending in the App Store was nearly that of Google Play spending worldwide in the first half of 2018, according to data from Sensor Tower. That’s despite Android’s massive install base compared to iOS. Apple’s premium product attracts consumers with money to spend.”

“So, not only do Apple users produce about half of Google’s ad clicks in the U.S., those clicks are more valuable to advertisers than clicks on less-expensive Android devices,” Levy reports. “That means advertisers are willing to pay more per click.”

Read more in the full article here.

MacDailyNews Take: Yup. As we explained along ago:

Android is pushed to users who are, in general:

a) confused about why they should be choosing an iPhone over an inferior knockoff and therefore might be less prone to understand/explore their devices’ capabilities or trust their devices with credit card info for shopping; and/or
b) enticed with “Buy One Get One Free,” “Buy One, Get Two or More Free,” or similar ($100 Gift Cards with Purchase) offers.

Neither type of customer is the cream of the crop when it comes to successful engagement or coveted demographics; closer to the bottom of the barrel than the top, in fact. Android can be widespread and still demographically inferior precisely because of the way in which and to whom Android devices are marketed. Unending BOGO promos attract a seemingly unending stream of cheapskate freetards just as inane, pointless TV commercials about robots or blasting holes in concrete walls attract meatheads and dullards, not exactly the best demographics unless you’re peddling muscle building powders or grease monkey overalls.

Google made a crucial mistake: They gave away Android to “partners” who pushed and continue to push the product into the hands of the exact opposite type of user that Google needs for Android to truly thrive. Hence, Android is a backwater of second-rate, or worse, app versions that are only downloaded when free or ad-supported – but the Android user is notoriously cheap, so the ads don’t sell for much because they don’t work very well. You’d have guessed that Google would have understood this, but you’d have guessed wrong.

Google built a platform that depends heavily on advertising support, but sold it to the very type of customer who’s the least likely to patronize ads.

iOS users are the ones who buy apps, so developers focus on iOS users. iOS users buy products, so accessory makers focus on iOS users. iOS users have money and the proven will to spend it, so vehicle makers focus on iOS users. Etcetera. Android can have the Hee Haw demographic. Apple doesn’t want it or need it; it’s far more trouble than it’s worth.MacDailyNews, November 26, 2012

“All men are created equal.”

Well, not when it comes to users of smartphones and tablets…

The bottom line: Those who settle for Android devices are not equal to iOS users. The fact is that iOS users are worth significantly more than Android settlers to developers, advertisers, third-party accessory makers (speakers, cases, chargers, cables, etc.), vehicle makers, musicians, TV show producers, movie producers, book authors, carriers, retailers, podcasters… The list goes on and on.

The quality of the customer matters. A lot.

Facile “analyses” that look only at market (unit) share, equating one Android settler to one iOS user, make a fatal error by incorrectly equating users of each platform one-to-one.

When it comes to mobile operating systems, all users are simply not equal.SteveJack, MacDailyNews, November 15, 2014

SEE ALSO:
Analyst estimates Google will pay Apple $9 billion this year to remain default search – September 28, 2018
Apple thrives by going upscale: It is Economics 101 – September 26, 2018
Apple’s App Store is destroying Google Play in services and subscriptions – April 18, 2018
Apple takes U.S. market share from Android, dominates with 8 iPhones out of 10 best-selling smartphones – July 26, 2018
Apple’s iPhone X made 5 times the profit of 600 Android OEMs combined – April 18, 2018
Apple’s iPhone captured 86% of global handset profits in Q417; iPhone X alone took 35% of global handset profits – April 17, 2018
Apple App Store users spent nearly double that of Google Play users in Q417 – January 26, 2018
Apple’s iOS continues to attract content apps first, despite smaller unit share – October 30, 2017
Bernstein: Google to pay Apple $3 billion this year to remain the default search engine on iPhones and iPads – August 14, 2017
Higher income U.S. states use Apple iPhones; lower income states use Samsung Galaxy phones – September 27, 2016
iOS users are worth 10X more than those who settle for Android – July 27, 2016
Apple’s App Store revenue nearly double that of Google’s Android – April 20, 2016
Poor man’s iPhone: Android on the decline – February 26, 2015
Study: iPhone users are smarter and richer than those who settle for Android phones – January 22, 2015
Why Android users can’t have the nicest things – January 5, 2015
iPhone users earn significantly more than those who settle for Android phones – October 8, 2014
Yet more proof that Android is for poor people – June 27, 2014
More proof that Android is for poor people – May 13, 2014
Android users poorer, shorter, unhealthier, less educated, far less charitable than Apple iPhone users – November 13, 2013
IDC data shows two thirds of Android’s 81% smartphone share are cheap junk phones – November 13, 2013
CIRP: Apple iPhone users are younger, richer, and better educated than those who settle for Samsung knockoff phones – August 19, 2013
Newsflash: Apple sells premium products at premium prices to premium customers – October 23, 2012

77 Comments

    1. Exactly. I understand Google’s position of putting out $12B to get back $36B but Apple should be using DuckDuckGo as the default search engine on Safari and putting more money into that company to make it a worthy competitor to Google Search. Apple probably just wants Google’s money out of greed as I don’t see Apple actually taking that money and using it to give pain to Google.

      What really puzzles me is why Google even has to pay Apple to make Google Search as the default search engine. I would think most internet users on Safari would eventually use Google Search as a matter of course if it’s really that good. I realize I may not see the full picture of why Apple does the things it does. They may be setting up some grand plan to lessen Google’s internet domination, but that’s just my wishful thinking. Who knows, maybe one year Apple will just say no to Google’s deal and leave them high and dry.

      Google is still highly valued with a P/E of 50, so the company is obviously valued much higher than Apple’s P/E of 20. It looks as though Apple is getting the short end of the Google Search engine deal. Ad revenue is a big deal to Wall Street investors and is certainly praised more than hardware revenue, at least in Apple’s case.

      1. Apple used Bing for Siri searches and Mac’s Spotlight searches and it was horrible IMO. I hate to admin it, because I really don’t like Google’s practices with data collecting, but their search is the best. It shows me better results than the others do. Apple should just develop their own search engine.

    1. You’re too kind. Google offers goods and services in exchange for information. They tell you and give you, up front, the option to opt out.

      With Apple you pay money for goods and then they deliver you to Google without giving you the option to opt out. Apple gets enriched by ones participation without ones consent. Worst of both worlds.

      Hey Apple, get out of my shorts!

      1. Seriously?
        You compare Google policy with Apple policy… get a life…

        Google forced everyone to link their accounts youtube, gmail etc or close the accounts… where as on Apple you can easily change the default search engine… there is a lot of difference…

      2. Do you even have an iPhone? Are you unaware of how to change your default search engine? Apple gets paid to make Google the default search, but users are free to choose Yahoo, Bing, or Duck, Duck Go.

        1. My mother in law needs to

          a) Know about it. She wasn’t informed or given a choice at setup.
          b) Know how to change it.

          There are many things bought and sold without consent, none good when it comes to free people.

          1. I don’t get what’s so hard about this. You could explain to your mother in law how to change the default in 30 seconds.

            If Apple made everyone choose and set up a search engine they would get even more complaints. You’d be complaining that Apple was making your mother in law do too much to set up her iPhone.

            “when it comes to free people” really? Ease back on the hysteria there snowflake.

            1. “If Apple made everyone choose and set up a search engine they would get even more complaints.”

              Are you serious? For all the talk about Google and privacy concerns Apple customers would flock to this feature and write them thank you letters.

              Just like setting up e-mail you are presented with a list of logos. Touch the e-mail logo of choice and enter your information.

              But in this case present a list of search engine logos, touch the logo, voila! There, fixed it for you.

              No, the real reason what Apple is afraid of is endangering that $12 billion bribe payment for premium placement. That’s why the SE change is nearly hidden and not widely talked about.

              Apple is the snowflake…

            2. Not my job to tell her. She shouldn’t have to worry about being sold without permission.

              No I would not be complaining, you would, or better yet… don’t get paid to send people to Google. Or offer a choice.

          2. Not your job to tell her? Wow. You’re a real nice person. Can’t take 30 seconds out of your day to help your mother in law. I like to help people. That’s just me. You’re free to make different choices.

          3. Anyone who chooses to buy any product from any company is participating in enriching that company in myriad ways. I get all that. It isn’t rocket science.

            What amazes me is how much of a dick you are choosing not to take 30 seconds out of your precious time to teach your mother in law how to change her default search engine.

            At what point does personal responsibility kick in? Do you want to depend on corporations to feed you pablum like a baby? Take some ownership of your situation and deal with it snowflake. Oh no Apple is a corporation and is fleecing Google for billions. I don’t care. I took the ten seconds it takes to switch the default and I’m all good. Because, you know, personal responsibility and educating myself and dealing with the real world like a big boy… unlike you who just whines and whines and whines about Apple. Solve your own problems.

            1. That’s Cynical Dick to you, eff head!
              The point is not about whether, it’s about needing to in the first place. Also, I’m not son-in-law to everyone. No one is.

              Don’t sell me without asking me!

          4. I see. You’ve chosen to cede your personal responsibility to corporations instead of behaving like an adult who takes care of their own business regardless of what decisions corporations try to make for you.

            Corporations don’t control me. Apparently you’re fine with corporations controlling you ‘cuz then you get to whine about it.

            I’d rather do what I like with whatever I buy from Apple. Doesn’t much matter to me what Apple has to say about it or what their policies are. I do what I want. No need to whine either. One of us is a baby whiner and the other is not.

          5. Apple didn’t sell me to anyone. I don’t use any Google products or services. Apple sold you because you’re a baby that doesn’t take personal responsibility for your life and apparently you don’t know how to set up or operate your devices. It’s not Apple’s responsibility. It is yours. You can continue being a baby or choose to step up and take personal responsibility.

            1. Let me tell you how this works…
              Apple received money from Google to make GoOgle search default on YOUR browser, this necessitating YOU change that, provided YOU knew about it.

              Since you don’t understand that, I doubt you know how to change defaults.

              As for me, most the time I’m a willing Google customer.

          6. Let me tell you how this works. I take an interest in the devices I use and I learn how to use them. I did know about all of this as someone who takes personal responsibility for my life. Apple wasn’t hiding any of this. Informed users like me already knew. Dumb baby users like you didn’t and now you’re whining about it. That is your fault, not Apple’s.

            Apple fleecing Google for billions does not impact me at all. I don’t use anything Google makes. It is impossible for Apple to sell me to any other corporation because I’m informed and take control of my life.

            Personal choice. Personal responsibility. If you want to be a dumb baby user and not take personal responsibility for your life that is your choice.

            That you are a willing Google customer says it all. You’re a whining baby who refuses to take personal responsibility.

            1. Here’s where we’re alike. I take responsibility for my devices too, and I don’t want Apple, MS, or Google as my IT department.

              I also DO NOT control who Apple receives money from to set defaults on MY machine AND they don’t ask AND they don’t tell you. Same applies to you, except your apologist banter.

              What permission have YOU given Apple to set Google as YOUR default, for which they got paid? Our very existence as users s enriching Apple. I didn’t sign up for that.

          7. It is your responsibility to educate yourself about the devices you use and the policies and actions of the corporations you buy from. Full stop.

            Apple isn’t my IT department because I take that responsibility for myself. If you won’t take responsibility that’s your fault.

            All I’m hearing from you is a lot of whining. You say you take responsibility for your devices? If that was true you wouldn’t be whining like a baby.

          8. Did you really just say that to educate yourself you must be informed by the people selling to you? Maybe if you are a baby being fed pablum by the corporations you buy from. Then sure… YOU need to be informed by the people selling to you. I don’t need pablum fed to me. It is YOUR responsibility to educate yourself. Ceding that responsibility to corporations as you’ve just ADMITTED you do is foolish.

            1. PS-Complete user instructions are the responsibility of the seller of the device, but you knew that.

              Complete disclosure of how you enrich them is too, especially when they deliver you to others.

          9. You just said it again… twice.

            “Complete user instructions are the responsibility of the seller of the device”

            “Complete disclosure of how you enrich them is too, especially when they deliver you to others”

            Yum yum Apple give me that baby pablum!

            You are ceding personal responsibility to Apple instead of taking control for yourself. Apple can’t deliver me to anyone because I don’t allow them to. I don’t need instructions from Apple about anything because I can handle that myself. I don’t need disclosure from Apple because I’ll figure that out on my own. Apple isn’t enriched by me beyond my direct purchases from them because I don’t allow it to happen. I can do that because I educated myself and took that responsibility on myself. I didn’t rely on Apple for my knowledge.

            If you want to continue being fed pablum by Apple and refuse to stand up for yourself and take personal responsibility that’s your choice.

            1. Your very existence, as well as every other user’s was used to enrich Apple. They received 12 billion because we collectively breathe.

              The lunacy of you believing you have control over your devices, when Apple is the world’s largest IT department is utterly delusional. They did not inform you nor ask you whether it’s okay to make Google the default search engine on your property. All while “not selling your data”. Why sell your data when they can lease you?

              You were not informed directly from Apple or offered a choice to which to directly consent. Keep arguing with facts.

          10. “You were not informed directly from Apple or offered a choice to which to directly consent.”

            I understand this. What you are not understanding is that it doesn’t matter in my case because I already knew Google was paying Apple and I chose to not use any Google services. Apple is a public company. They cannot hide this information. If you were an actual informed and responsible user you would have known this too. You are not and you did not know.

            I don’t need Apple to give me a choice or inform me because I’m not a baby that needs to be fed pablum and have Mother Apple tell me everything and give me choices. I make my own choices.

            I do have control over my devices. If you don’t know how that can be done that’s your fault and your failing. Too bad for you… baby.

            I have nothing against Apple fleecing Google for $12 billion. More power to them. However, Google isn’t getting anything out of the deal when it comes to me. Zero. Nada. Zilch.

            Apple may be your IT department and Google may be getting something out of the deal from you and your devices but that’s your own fault. Educate yourself and take some personal responsibility. Whine less and take some control back from Apple. Or keep on being a know-nothing baby user getting pushed around by Apple and Google. Your choice… baby.

            1. I have no care in the world over Apple fleecing Google either. You claim you want control that you don’t have. I’m actually complaining in order to get greater control, and not to have to find out from third parties.

          11. “complaining in order to get greater control, and not to have to find out from third parties.”

            I don’t have to complain because I already have control and I don’t wait around for Apple to tell me anything. I find out for myself. That is called personal responsibility. You should try it.

            Why do you keep replying twice? Are you so dumb you can’t think of everything the first time you reply? Or are you so lame that after you reply you think oh oh oh I know what I should have said.

          12. I get it. You don’t know how to take control of your Apple devices so you assume I can’t do it either. Keep dreaming. It isn’t hard to ditch Google or to sideload apps. It isn’t necessary all the time but I do whatever I want with my iOS devices. I don’t wait around for Apple to allow me or for Apple to make something easy so a baby like you can do it.

            The discussion was about Google only at first. You moved the goalposts because you got mad that I made fun of you for being a baby who doesn’t take personal responsibility. Sorry baby, I can do all sorts of things with my iOS devices that you can’t. Apple doesn’t tell me what to do. You keep on playing by the rules, baby.

            There are two kinds of people in the world. People who whine and complain and people who get off their ass and do something. You whine and complain about Apple. I got off my ass did something about the shortcomings of iOS devices. Apple doesn’t control me and Google gets nothing from me. Deal with it. You could do the same as me if you would only stop whining and complaining. How is that working out for you? Is Apple changing anything because you complain really really hard? No? Oh. Well… keep whining and complaining.

          13. Yes let’s go back to your original comment.

            “With Apple you pay money for goods and then they deliver you to Google without giving you the option to opt out. Apple gets enriched by ones participation without ones consent. Worst of both worlds.”

            How does Apple deliver me to Google when I take personal responsibility and educate myself and choose not to use any Google services or products? Hmmm?

            I don’t need any option to opt out because I am an educated user who believes in personal responsibility. Apple cannot deliver me to Google because I don’t allow it. If dumb baby users won’t educate themselves and get delivered to Google that’s their own fault. Personal. Responsibility. That used to be a thing. Sadly it isn’t anymore and people whine and complain instead of taking action.

            Good for Apple if they can fleece Google for $12 billion. Didn’t we agree neither of us cared about that? Users that believe in personal responsibility and educating themselves cannot be delivered to Google. Full stop. By the way there isn’t anything more than full stop. Double stop is not a thing.

            1. “How does Apple deliver me to Google” the FACT that they set your default without telling you or allowing you to choose. That you later changed it kudos to you. Tired of repeating the same FACT. Apple got paid money, got enriched, beyond your purchase, in part by your very existence, without your consent.

              Now you switched it. Good for you. But if you are like what I assume to be the vast majority of Apple users, you wouldn’t have. The user base, which includes you, got sold, or rather leased if you prefer.

          14. “But if you are like what I assume to be the vast majority of Apple users, you wouldn’t have. The user base, which includes you, got sold, or rather leased if you prefer.”

            No. I am not like the majority of users on any platform. I am educated and I believe in personal responsibility. I always know what the defaults are and I always change them if I believe it is warranted. Apple never sold me and never could. Google has no data on me. Was I not clear? I didn’t switch away from Google a few days ago. I have always paid attention to my privacy and taken care of it.

            Here is where you and I differ. You believe it is Apple’s responsibility to inform and offer choice. I believe it is MY responsibility to inform myself and make my own choices. I believe it is foolish to rely on any corporation to spoon feed you and even more foolish to eat what they spoon feed you, as you are doing.

            That is personal responsibility and according to you it is dead today. You certainly don’t believe in personal responsibility. If you did you wouldn’t be whining and complaining about Apple.

            1. Apple in this case did offer choice, that’s how you are able to change the default, what they didn’t do is inform.

              And that still doesn’t plain how your very existence enriches Apple. You are a member of a club whether you want to be or not. You live by their rules,not yours as you so proudly state.

          15. “Apple in this case did offer choice, that’s how you are able to change the default, what they didn’t do is inform.”

            I understand you don’t believe in personal responsibility and you think Apple has to inform you about everything all the time. We’ve been over that. I don’t need Mother Apple to inform me. I’ll take care of that myself. Thanks for your concern though.

            “And that still doesn’t plain how your very existence enriches Apple. You are a member of a club whether you want to be or not. You live by their rules,not yours as you so proudly state.”

            Apple is free to enrich itself however they like. I don’t care if Apple thinks I’m in their club. I’m not. I’ll continue to live by my own rules. You don’t understand how that can be done. Not my problem. That’s your problem. You go ahead and cede responsibility to Apple as you’ve been doing. I’ll continue to believe in and act on the principle of personal responsibility.

            You’re not applecynic. You are applebaby. Worse… you are Apple’s b#tch.

            1. It’s mother Apple that inserts herself. You have all this backwards. I personally wish to forbid Apple from making any post purchase money from me, how do I do that? You know, personal responsibility.

              Apple’s B3tch said the anonymous c#nt!

          16. “It’s mother Apple that inserts herself.”

            Only if you let it happen. You do. I don’t. Do you always do what your mother tells you to do? Apparently yes you do.

            “I personally wish to forbid Apple from making any post purchase money from me, how do I do that?”

            You answered your own question. Personal responsibility. Educate yourself and take control. Don’t give me this crap about a club or my existence making Apple money. Apple can’t sell me to Google because I don’t allow it. Sadly I am a tiny minority. Most users are like you. Ignorant and lazy. That’s why Google pays so much to Apple. They get all the dumb baby users like you. They don’t get me though.

            Now go ahead and tell me again that I don’t have the control I do have just because you don’t understand how to do it yourself. Now that is arrogance. You don’t understand something so it can’t be possible. Wow.

            1. Your delusion has no bounds. Not only are you part of the herd, you deny it. You do not control what Apple does, THEY are your IT department on iOS and you do what they allow for as long as they allow.

          17. “Your delusion has no bounds. Not only are you part of the herd, you deny it.”

            You arrogance has no bounds. Not only do you not understand how to take control of your iOS devices, you deny that it is possible at all.

            Every company has some level of control over their devices. Android, Windows, Linux etc devices included. With all of them including Apple you can take back control over everything that matters.

            Apple may be YOUR IT department but they aren’t mine. If Apple does begin to exert onerous rules that I cannot circumvent then I’ll just ditch Apple. I won’t whine and complain. I’ll just switch. You know, like a man that takes person responsibility over his life. I won’t act like a little b#tch and waste my time whining on forums which accomplishes NOTHING.

            Remember though going back to your original comment this was only about the single issue of Apple selling me to Google which I rightly pointed out did not happen because I opted out long ago. You changed your argument when it became apparent that you were acting like a momma’s boy.

            No no no I wasn’t crying and whining I wasn’t really I’m just as grown up and responsible as you are! No no no wait I know, I’ll say you don’t have control you’re just part of the herd like me!

            I cannot be part of the herd because I do not stand with other users and mimic their behaviour. I am of the same species but I stand alone. Or do you not understand what a herd is either? A herd acts together. I don’t do what most Apple users do so I cannot be part of the herd by definition.

            You need a lot of education.

            1. You’re delusional because you believe you control things when in fact you only control what your allowed to control. And your not being told. You’re being manipulated!

          18. “you only control what your allowed to control. And your not being told. You’re being manipulated!”

            You’re, not your. Please get an education. In all things at some point we cannot exert control. I never once said control was total. It can never be in any aspect of life. As long as we can control what matters such as whether or not Google gets any data from me or whether I can sideload apps (I can) etc then it is all good. If you don’t know how to do those things that is your failing not mine.

            It is also critical to take responsibility and exert control for yourself instead of sitting back and whining as you are doing.

            I don’t know how many times I need to say this but I don’t need Mother Apple to tell me anything. I’m capable of learning and educating myself. Apple is a public company. They don’t get to hide anything that matters. Thanks so much for your concern though.

            You are the one being manipulated by relying on Mother Apple to inform you and playing by Mother Apple’s rules and not believing it is possible to act any other way… because Mother Apple tells you so.

            I’ve met people like you before. You think you are the smartest person in the room and you cannot accept that someone else is more capable than you. Envy is not a good look for you. Just because you can’t do something doesn’t mean I can’t do it.

          19. You said one thing that is true. Apple controls you… because you don’t care to educate yourself and take personal responsibility and apparently you do everything Mother Apple tells you.

            You always painted inside the lines as a kid didn’t you? Obey the rules. Don’t think for yourself. Follow applecynic’s example kids. He’s a good obedient little boy.

            You also replied twice again… so lame. Duhhhh I can’t think of everything I want to say so I need two tries duhhhhh.

            1. “Always within the lines”,

              yeah, that’s me! You are truly a clown, jus because you need a shrink, doesn’t make you one! This is me laughing at you….

          20. “This is me laughing at you”

            No, this is you desperately replying to me over and over and over and over and over. Many times you’ve replied twice which only proves your desperation.

          21. Yes, yes. Better I should teach my children to be like you… an obedient servant of society who follows the rules and believes whatever any type of authority tells him.

            Here are a few quotes from you that demonstrate your attitude.

            “As for me, most the time I’m a willing Google customer.”

            You allowed Apple to sell you.

            “To educate myself I must also be informed.”

            You cede the responsibility to educate yourself.

            “Complete user instructions are the responsibility of the seller of the device”

            You cede the responsibility to educate yourself again.

            “You were not informed directly from Apple or offered a choice”

            You rely on Apple as your IT department.

            “I’m actually complaining in order to get greater control”

            You whine and complain instead of taking action.

            On second thought I’ll raise my kids to be the opposite of you. Thanks for your concern though.

            1. Okay Mr, self sufficiently independent…
              Tell me how to remove Safari from my iPad without jailbreaking. Not another word out of you until then, because you’re just full of….

          22. “Tell me how to remove Safari from my iPad without jailbreaking.”

            Moving the goalposts yet again I see. Do you not know how to turn Safari off? That’s easy without jailbreaking. Oh my. You didn’t know about the Restrictions setting.

            Ah ha ha ha haaaa ha ha haaa ha aha haaa! What a chump!

            I hope you know you can use a browser other than Safari on your iPad. Hmm, maybe you didn’t even know that either.

            Okay, now that I’ve stopped laughing. Why wouldn’t you jailbreak? Oh riiiggghhtt. You follow the rules and paint inside the lines and can’t think for yourself. That’s why. You keep on being a good little boy for Mother Apple.

          23. “Wrong answer, Mr. “in total control”.
            Strike one!”

            Wow. Your response is cringeworthy. You really didn’t know about the Restrictions setting which does remove Safari. It doesn’t delete it but it does remove it. What a loser.

            Now you’ll say you did know about it. You didn’t. If you did know about it you would have phrased the original question differently.

            Now you’ve stooped to lying. Putting “in total control” in quotes as if I said that. Do a search on this thread. The only person who said “total control” is you.

            You are moving the goalposts from Google not being able to track me to “total control” and now you are lying in a desperate attempt to save face because you didn’t know about a BASIC setting in iOS that does what you asked for.

            I am loving this! Bwah ha ha ha haaaaa!

            Can’t wait for your strike two and strike three replies so you can pull the ripcord on your vanity parachute and get out of this conversation with your fragile ego intact.

            How long can I make you keep replying? I bet forever. You can’t stop. Your fragile ego won’t let you.

            1. Total control, by the way means being able to remove it. It also means havung full access to the filesystem, meaning even root, it also means being able to code and freely distribute as you see fit, without the cat and mouse game of jailbreaking.

              You have one strike left.

          24. “Total control, by the way means being able to remove it. It also means havung full access to the filesystem, meaning even root, it also means being able to code and freely distribute as you see fit, without the cat and mouse game of jailbreaking.”

            You’re doing what I predicted. How lame. Moving the goalposts and making up your own requirements for “total control” so you can say strike one, strike two, strike three, and save your fragile ego. I pity you. It’s embarrassing watching you do this.

            “You have one strike left.”

            Well duh, who could have predicted that? Oh… me, that’s who.

            You go ahead with pretending to be an umpire with some kind of delusional authority and say strike three and I will continue sideloading and jailbreaking even though that doesn’t count.

            You also forgot to thank me for teaching you about the Restrictions setting.

            After you say strike three you can run along home and be a good obedient little boy for Mother Apple.

          25. “Strike 3. But that’s okay I’m so right on this you can keep striking out until infinity.”

            Pro tip. When you have to keep saying you’re right and you keep replying twice it’s a sign of your desperation.

            You’re behaving like a kid playing a game yelling loudly that the other team’s goals didn’t count and you really won.

            “No no no! That doesn’t count! Waaaa it doesn’t count! I’m the winner! I’m the winner!”

            I shouldn’t be surprised by your behaviour. You refuse to take personal responsibility and instead blame Apple for your ignorance and cede all responsibility to inform and educate yourself to Mother Apple.

            I’m still chuckling about the Restrictions setting. What kind of person pretending to be a knowledgeable user doesn’t know about that? I should thank you for that tasty morsel. So delicious.

            1. I don’t say I’m right, it’s that you’re just that wrong. You claim to have independence and control which you assuredly do not. You can argue with facts, and accumulate strikes forever. My counting them is my gift to you.

          26. applecynic: “that’s okay I’m so right on this”

            applecynic one reply later after having his obvious desperation pointed out: “I don’t say I’m right”

            This is just too good. I hope you NEVER stop replying. You are a comedy gold mine!

            “You claim to have independence and control which you assuredly do not.”

            Never said any such thing chum. You moved the goalposts and started lying about what I said in order to save your fragile ego.

            Then you said jailbreaking doesn’t count. Moving the goalposts yet again.

            Your original comment was about Apple selling users to Google. I pointed out that this didn’t and couldn’t happen to me because I take personal responsibility and exert control instead of whining. You got mad because I made it obvious that you are a whiner who doesn’t believe in personal responsibility. You talk about it a lot but you don’t walk the walk.

            Now you’ve changed the story to “in total control” which you put in quotes to make it seem like I said that. I didn’t. You can never have “total control” of anything. I can’t totally control any device on any platform. There is always a limitation.

            Now you’ve invented your strikes reply so you can save face and never have to deal with the reality that I made it painfully clear to anyone reading this thread that applecynic is a whiner who doesn’t believe in personal responsibility.

            The more you reply with your vapid responses the more you prove that.

          27. “I don’t need to be so right”

            This is great! Now you don’t need to be right. Your ego is in tatters!

            BTW, I never made any false claims. You lied and said that I did that.

            It’s like me telling you I can drive from Las Vegas to LA in a little over two hours and you say I’m lying because I cheated by speeding the whole way. It doesn’t count!

            Keep on lying. Doesn’t bother me. I’m not going to stop doing something just because some meek mousey rules following baby with a shattered ego tells me it isn’t possible.

            The more you lie the more you reveal how desperate you are. Keep the lies and desperation coming! Delicious!

            Lie and reply baby! Lie and reply!

          28. “You might get the record for being resoundingly wrong here. You do not have the control you advertise.”

            You might get the record for making desperate statements that you wish were true.

            I don’t have the control you advertised which is “total control”. Never said it, never claimed it. The discussion was never about “total control” until you got caught being a whiny baby user. Then you lied and moved the goalposts. As liars do.

            I have the control I have described. The problem is you don’t understand the difference and you have said sideloading and jailbreaking don’t count.

            Just because you can’t do something doesn’t mean it can’t be done by others who are smarter and more capable than you.

            The other problem here is there’s only one adult in this conversation. You’ll keep replying and lying forever, you’re that desperate, immature, and sad.

            I’ll have to be the one who ends this. You are unable to stop lying and replying. Your fragile sad shattered ego won’t allow you to stop. Your multiple double replies are evidence of this.

            I pity you.

            1. Still no indication of how to remove Safari without jailbreaking. Feel free to continue with meaningless attack’s instead of adding credibility to your discredited position.

              Btw… side loading counts if built in to the system, as with Android. It is not. I said nothing about sideloading. Just jailbreaking. Get informed.

            2. Boo! The comments are over. I’ve been checking every couple of days. That was entertaining. applecynic just has no self-awareness of how bad he comes off. I have to agree with you. It is a kind of desperation. Not only was he not able to stop replying at the end, he replied twice! No need to reply to me. I’m outta here! Thanks for the laughs. I wonder if applecynic manually checks this page and will reply to me. That would be super desperate.

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