“The ‘Bionic’ part in the name of Apple’s A11 Bionic chip isn’t just marketing speak,” Mark Spoonauer reports for Tom’s Guide. “It’s the most powerful processor ever put in a mobile phone.”
“We’ve put this chip to the test in both synthetic benchmarks and some real-world speed trials, and it obliterates every Android phone we tested,” Spoonauer reports. “Let’s start with Geekbench 4, which measures overall performance. On the multicore portion of this test, the iPhone 8 hit 10,170. That’s 54 percent faster than the score from Samsung’s Galaxy Note 8 — currently the fastest Android phone. The Android competition wasn’t close. The Note 8 scored 6,564, and that’s with 6GB of RAM paired with Qualcomm’s fast Snapdragon 835 chip. How about the OnePlus 5 and its 8GB of RAM and Snapdragon 835? That handset got 6,542. With 4GB of RAM, the Galaxy S8 scored 6,295 with the same processor.”
“The iPhone 8 even edged out the score from the 13-inch Apple MacBook Pro with a 7th-generation Core i5 processor,” Spoonauer reports. “That notebook notched 9,213. Is Geekbench 4 really comparable from phone to desktop? According to the founder of Geekbench, John Poole, ‘the short is answer is yes that the scores are comparable across platforms, so if an iPhone 8 scores higher than an i5, then the iPhone 8 is faster than the i5.'”
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MacDailyNews Take: Android. Markedly inferior in every way except in malware infections and privacy trampling.
With each passing year, and especially with iPhone X, it becomes increasingly clear – even to the Android settlers – that the competition has no chance of even remotely keeping up against Apple’s unmatched vertically integrated one-two punch of custom software and custom hardware. The Android to iPhone upgrade train just turned onto a long straightaway, engines stoked, primed to barrel away! — MacDailyNews, September 13, 2017
SEE ALSO:
Apple’s A11 Bionic chip is by far the highest-performing system on the market; totally destroys Android phones – September 19, 2017
Apple’s A11 Bionic chip in iPhone 8, 8 Plus, and iPhone X leaves Android phones choking in the dust – September 18, 2017
The inside story of Apple’s amazing A11 Bionic chip – September 18, 2017
Apple’s A11 Bionic obliterates top chips from Qualcomm, Samsung and Huawei – September 18, 2017
Apple accelerates mobile processor dominance with A11 Bionic; benchmarks faster than 13-inch MacBook Pro – September 15, 2017
Apple’s A11 Bionic chip in iPhone X and iPhone 8/Plus on par with 2017 MacBook Pro – September 14, 2017
It’s rather unfortunate Apple can’t leverage processing power into higher iPhone sales. The sad thing is that most consumers would rather have a less expensive product rather than a higher performance product. I think that’s just a natural human constant. Despite the iPhone having higher performance over Android smartphones, iPhone sales will continue to decline while Android smartphone sales will continue to flourish. The global economy will certainly favor Android. That’s why more Toyotas are sold than Porsches.
In a perfect human world, all things economic would be equal. But they’re not. And neither are the politics. We’re in the midst of what I call ‘Neo-Feudalism’ with an ever growing chasm between the wealthy and poor. We’ve also got criminal nations like China who deliberately steal IP from across the world, apply it in their own country for their own products, then shove out the source companies who invented the IP.
IOW: Sh*t happens.
But it is well worth striving for the better product no matter the circumstance. Obviously, in this case, it remains Apple.
China doesn’t generally steal our IP. We send it to them freely and hope they don’t borrow it.
Yes, China consistently steals our IP via cyber attacks. I’m watching a US federal cybersecurity symposium today. The feds outright admit it these days, which is a great improvement from the days when they refused to talk about it.
Well if you call thriving, making practically no money out of all your headless chicken efforts to churn out low profit products then yes Android phones are flourishing. As for Porsche I doubt that will see them trying going to outsell Toyota any time soon, which when you consider that they are perhaps the most profitable car company for the littlest effort on the planet might explain why.
Your negativity theory was also applied to the Mac for many years and that too, in much less favorable circumstancesit should be noted, has already been proved faulty logic to the point that no one actually even tries to it pass off anymore.
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Friday, September 22, 2017 – 12:49 pm · Reply
The sad thing is that most consumers would rather have a less expensive product rather than a higher performance product….The global economy will certainly favor Android.”
ummmm, not so much. Apple markets to the “Veblen”
[From Wikipedia:
A Veblen good is a member of a group of commodities whose demand is proportional to their price; an apparent contradiction of the law of demand. A Veblen good is often also a positional good.
The Veblen effect is named after economist Thorstein Veblen, who first identified the concepts of conspicuous consumption and status-seeking in 1899.]
market and does so successfully with just the type of product you most customers don’t appreciate. That’s OK because profit is far more important than unit sales.
The global economy may favor lower cost goods, but foreign currency exchange rates have been changing in favor of Apple products since December (US$ down about 13% against the Euro, British Pound, Asian currencies, etc).
Greggthurman, is disagree with the application of “Veblen” theory to the iPhone. If you care to understand why, go back and read the posts for the recent article on the subject of rising iPhone ASPs. The article, by the way, asserts the Veblen theory and is total rubbish from the standpoint of logic and reason.
Per the decline in iPh sales, per my memory, iPh sales aren’t hurting. Apple’s mantra through time isn’t market share, but excellence. This has long translated into highest profit margins in the industry, highest customer satisfaction….and more. Apple’s products aren’t priced for everyone….but, like a Porsche level car, people imagine owning driving one. With that said, it appears Apple is changing it’s strategy as the “typically retired” iPhone line-up continues to be extended. My guess is India and China are the main reasons for this, but it affects/will affect the “most consumers” issue mentioned.
Last time I looked you could buy a iPhone SE for $349 which runs the latest and great OS 11. Tell me which Android “smartphone” I can buy for $349 or less that runs Androids latest and greatest OS 8 aka Oreo? I’m waiting………….A quick Google check showed I could buy a Galaxy S7 (similar speed) for €538 running Android OS 6 Marshmallow! I’m not making it up, a brand new phone pre-installed with a 2 year out of date operating system for $200 more than a comparable iPhone. So in this case you can actually buy a Porche for a lot less than a Toyota.
Quite a few mid-range and budget phones will be getting Android Oreo with prices of $349 or less.
https://theleaker.com/android-o-8-0-update-smartphones-list/
Unless you’ve got a pixel then history tells us and most predictions are that the earliest you’ll get the latest upgrade will be 5-6 months from launch so probably February 2018 at the earliest if you’re one of the lucky ones. For comparison just 13% of Android phones were on Android OS 7 after a year from launch compared to 87% of active iPhones were on iOS 10 after 12 months from launch. Not much fun being on Android.
Starting from Android Nougat, Google has further compartmentalized the Android version from OEM ‘skins’. This is expected to minimize the portions of code the OEM and carriers have to certify (changing ‘history’) and thus speed up the update process. From reports for the Moto series of phones expected to receive the update, Oreo should be available for OTA by the middle of October 2017.
If you only view the OS version, yes, Android is very fragmented. If you look closer and notice that since FroYo, Google has separated out the components essential to the Google portions of Android from the OS. This means for all Google related services on all versions of Android (Froyo to Nougat) accessing the Google Play store are updated to the same version (100%) within weeks possibly less if all users access Google Play in short order. This results in every version of Android since FroYo having access to the same updated versions of Maps, GMail, Google+, etc. As with iOS, some capabilities are limited by the HW present in the relevant device.
You’ll have to note also that percentages look good for iOS vs Android, but in terms of actual number of devices updated/using the new OS there may not be much difference.
Well as long as you’re happy. The fact remains if you buy a flagship Android phone today you get a year old operating system installed evan though Android OS 8 was launched a full month ago. If you buy any new iPhone, base model right up to premium model you get this year’s IOS 11 installed as standard, no ifs, no buts, no staggered roll outs, no excuses.
I AM so tired of these misleading articles. The A11 is not more powerful than an i5. The A11 comparatively could never handle the kind of computing power needed to drive large displays, multi-tasking, and resource heavy tasks.
These benchmark tests are a total misnomer.
The iPad Pro, which runs a chip that is slower than the new iPhones, drives large screens with resolutions rivaling all macs besides the 5k iMac. And it does it at up to 120Hz instead of the 60Hz integrated Macs are currently limited to. Multitasking is largely based on multi core performance, available ram, and IO speed. The new bionic chip actually beat the i5 in multi core performance, and CPU throttling has actually been a comparative strength of the A series processors. It is the RAM and IO where laptops pull ahead, but that is ancillary hardware outside the CPU, so if an A11X where put in a next generation MacBook, it would be able to take advantage of the extra and faster RAM and SSD.
As I’ve said before there is a LOT more to a laptop and desktop CPU than raw instructions pre second. The Ax chips are specially designed for phones and tablets. They are optimized for throughput for those devices.
No matter what Poole says, synthetic benchmarks do not tell the whole story. That has been true since the Drystone and Whetstone days. SLALOM tried to fix that, but failed. SPEC tried again and still failed. There is absolutely no benchmark that allows anyone to truly compare performance across classes of platforms.
The Ax series of chips don’t support many things necessary for a laptop or desktop or workstation chip. It does not support PCIe, USB, Thunderbolt, Ethernet, etc. The list of what the Ax series chips don’t support that laptop/desktop/workstation chips do support is lengthy. All of that extra “baggage” does slow a chip down. To say otherwise is just sticking your head in the sand (or putting your fingers in your ears while yelling “Na Na Na”.
Could Apple make an Ax chip that supports everything the Intel i5 or i7 or i9 does? Yes. Will they? Only time will tell.
Meanwhile, in the circles of hell that are Android:
Google Patches 81 Android Vulnerabilities With September 2017 Updates
Apple certainly has plenty of its own security patches on a regular basis. The difference is that all compatible Apple devices will be updated in swift order. On Android, how many compatible devices will be updated within a month? How about within a year? How about EVER? FragmAndroid creepers…
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Security, or lack of, on Android is reason enough to stay away. Even if the speeds/feeds were switched from the iPh X, to the latest Samsung, I don’t want that exposure. Experian, et al, “provides” enough.
Today, I’ve been watching the US federal cybersecurity symposium at George Washington University via C-Span. It’s been full of chatter, reactivity and vagaries with very little specifics, solutions or leadership to end the problems. 😛
That probably depends on what part of Google Android (Android Version vs Google Services related) the vulnerability exists. If the former that may take some time depending on how soon the Carrier and the OEM take to ‘certify’ the patches won’t break their APIs. If the latter, it will only take a simple OTA that is compatible with 95%+ of all Android devices still able to access the Google Play store.
Google has been making an effort to come up with a ‘core’ Android OS that should be common to ALL Android devices, one which could be updated ASAP. Apparently, at the moment they’re trying to get companies to buy into the concept in future devices.
So far it looks like only the Pixel and some Sony devices are onboard for Project Treble. (Google Pixel, Google Pixel XL, Sony Xperia XZ1, and XZ1 Compact) One more step towards reducing update time and increasing update support length. The AOSP ROM guys are looking forward to advances since it will mean more devices will be supported with each ROM mod they build.
Great security link as usual Derek. Title is a bit misleading however since the body of the story actually identifies 39 of the 82 as MediaTek, Broadcom and Qualcom component vulnerabilities.
No, or short, lines at Apple stores.
Apple better hope fans are waiting for the iPhone X.
Otherwise, look out below AAPL.
Sorry what were the pre orders for the iPhone 8 compared to the Note again? Don’t think it’s Armageddon time just yet.
Ignore the trolls. They are desperate and scraping the bottom of the barrel right now.
Trolls are ever present (no curation on the internet) present and easily identified. The #1 clue to a Troll being present is the consistent repetition of the “Android is defeating iPhone with dominant and growing market share” meme.
That could be true until you examine who dominates industry profits: iPhone with about 80%.
Market share is a meaningless success metric if share is not generating PROFIT.
At the end of the day only the profitable firms will exist.
Apple is on the top of the mountain in that regard.
Missed the best bit: Video Editing: The iPhone 8 finished this strenuous task in just 42 seconds, while the Note 8 took more than 3 minutes. The Galaxy S8+ took more than 4 minutes.
4 x as fast as the closest ‘rival’ in a common real-world task.