After Apple’s fix: Apple’s MacBook Pro with Intel Core i9

Apple on Tuesday released macOS High Sierra 10.13.6 Supplemental Update to address the problem of MacBook Pro and thermal throttling along with the following statement:

Following extensive performance testing under numerous workloads, we’ve identified that there is a missing digital key in the firmware that impacts the thermal management system and could drive clock speeds down under heavy thermal loads on the new MacBook Pro. A bug fix is included in today’s macOS High Sierra 10.13.6 Supplemental Update and is recommended. We apologize to any customer who has experienced less than optimal performance on their new systems. Customers can expect the new 15-inch MacBook Pro to be up to 70% faster, and the 13-inch MacBook Pro with Touch Bar to be up to 2X faster, as shown in the performance results on our website. — Apple Inc.

Dave Lee, the guy who found the issue, has now released an updated video:

Direct link to video here.

MacDailyNews Take: Ta-da!

Again, it’s too bad that Tim Cook’s Apple is incapable of producing rock-solid, quality software from the initial release, thereby bolstering Apple’s reputation for quality instead of tarnishing it further, but at least this particular issue has been mitigated.

The MacBook Pro’s throttling issues are fixed, but Apple hasn’t solved its biggest problem: Quality control – July 25, 2018
Apple shakes up software development strategy to focus on quality – February 12, 2018
Apple on Mac flaw: ‘We apologize to all Mac users. Our customers deserve better. We are auditing our development processes.’ – November 29, 2017
Tim Cook’s sloppy, unfocused Apple rushes to fix a major Mac security bug – November 29, 2017
What to do about Apple’s shameful Mac security flaw in macOS High Sierra – November 29, 2017
Under ‘operations genius’ Tim Cook, product delays and other problems are no longer unusual for Apple – November 20, 2017
Apple’s desperate Mac Pro damage control message hints at a confused, divided company – April 6, 2017
Apple is misplaying the hand Steve Jobs left them – November 30, 2016
Open letter to Tim Cook: Apple needs to do better – January 5, 2015


      1. This guy nails it. iChat was by far the best video chat app on the market and what do the do? The kill it and give us Facetime which is pure junk.

        Steve Job = visionary who released products that were the best on the market when release.
        It was always a joy to know when Steve released a usable computer it was the fastest money could buy.

        Tim Cook = a political activist who turned apple into a phone company. Releases cripple products that are not the best when they come out. Releases them after customers complain for years about paying top dollar for old tech.

        1. Yes, they’ve gone from Steve Jobs to blow jobs.

          I don’t give a rats ass about sexual preferences, nor do I care to be reminded about every rally and protest by a tweet from a man who (oddly enough) has taken his eye off the ball.

          Tim Cook was an amazing person who helped Steve Jobs build Apple into a great company. I wish he would go back to that position and give someone else a swing at the bat…

          1. “ I don’t care about sexual preferences, but…” is right up there with “some of my best friends are Jewish, but…” and “I have nothing against the little lady, but…”

            Tiki torch guys always claim to be unbiased.

            1. Well you’re dead fucking wrong but whatever makes you feel superior, go ahead and build the straw man needed to win in your mind.

              Nobody really cares.

            2. If you run a company the size and importance of Apple, you best take care of it, rather than speak out politically and attending marches and the likes. Sure, it is his own choice and he has the right to pursue his own personal agenda as wel, but, like with celabrities, presidents and kings, captains of industry have to realize they are in the service of many.

              I understand that their significance also present them with a unique oportunity to get important messages across, but do that when all is working out and is going fine.

              How a CEO of a company as large as Apple has the time to enavour on such quests is beyong me. With the problems Apple is facing, this CEO has the obligation to concentrate solely on Apple and nothing else.

          2. Super clever quip but, you know, it’s an ad hom. And no one would care about Tim’s private life if he showed leadership and somehow, some way, had a less droning vocal delivery, were wittier and more pointed in his responses like Jobs was, and did not let Ive run roughshod.

            1. Actually it’s not directly about Tim Cook but Apple’s diversion from what was important to consumers to what is important to Apple’s upper hierarchy. Gay rights, illegal immigration, any of the latest tragedies that have a huge social media coverage.

              If they feel so strongly about certain issues, then set up a fund for underprivileged kids, kids of slain policemen/military personnel, families torn by crime in places like Chicago.

              Set up trust like these and allow employees and/or customers to make donations or direct them to worthy causes already established like was done for 9/11 and Katrina.

              All I see are personal ideologies (several of which I agree with but nonetheless) taking focus away from what Apple really is, a company known for exceptional products.

              And BTW, had a Leftist make a crack like I did in good humor, no one would second guess them…..except the far-left lunies that decry anything they are trained to react in a Pavlov fashion about.

      2. They target folks that have the greatest possibility to purchase the greatest number of additional Apple systems and services over their lifetime. I think it’s a winning strategy. OR, they could go the JC Penny route and continue to focus entirely on experienced people.

    1. I understand this guy’s frustration and some of his rant, but some of it is just plain idiotic–especially the connection part.

      FireWire started out in 1989 at 50 Mbps with a truly odd connector. The standards group, not Apple, changed the connector with the switch from 400 Mbps to 800 Mbps (and upwards). Yes, Apple was part of that standards group and had a lot of sway, but it was not Apple’s whim to make that change.

      To knock the switch to USB Type-C connectors is just plane asinine. Apple did go from the original FW connector to a variant of the mini DP connector, but there were many benefits to that move. And the international standards group picked up that connector as a standard because of its benefits.

      What does this guy want with regard to connectors? That we are all still using DB-9 and DB-15 connectors running RS-232 and RS-422 like on the old Mac Plus?

      Apple’s design team made the leap with the original iMac to drop the DB-XX connectors, the ADB connector, and the rest in favor of just a USB Type-A connector and a RJ-45 connector. Over the next couple of years virtually all PC followed suit (though some even to this day still have that idiotic keyboard connector–great if you’re using a 20+ year old keyboard!).

  1. I am puzzled why Apple’s top management did not identify and correct the missing digital key during pre-release testing instead of post. This error seems to be a reflection on bad management, but on who? Certainly not Forstall; Cook already played that card. Designer Ive? Seems unfair but he could be the blameworthy candidate since Jobs installed him as top design dog, even over coders and engineers, under Cook.

    But is this inattention to detail significant in such a complex dynamic when Apple quickly fixed it? Still, it seems to me to be another ding in a series of dings that, in total if it continues, could add up to a big deal and reflect badly on Apple’s nearly pristine reputation and bottom line.

    This Apple user and enthusiast fears that it may but hopes not.

    1. One thing’s for sure. For a product that had a low key, almost entirely non-existent marketing budget, there sure are a lot of folks that know about the new MacBook Pro. And, it seemed like a conveniently incredibly easy fix.

      Jus’ sayin’

  2. Great so Apple unlocked the thermal throttling. Now the laptop will overheat due to Johny Ives obsession with being thin, rather then functional.

    Just wait until these expensive laptops start dying due to overheating.

  3. “Again, it’s too bad that Tim Cook’s Apple is incapable of producing rock-solid, quality software from the initial release,”

    This from a company that routinely takes both sides in a debate and has trouble using a spell checker.

  4. You know, it just occurred to me that most of the posters on MDN don’t really exist. Most are made up by MDN editors to make it look like people are actually commenting.

  5. Looking at all those PC’s on that guy’s desk all running the same processor and all facing the same problem regarding performance and thermal management makes it clear that Apple needs to move their ARM development to solve this. I know it’ll take a while but wouldn’t it be nice to see a Mac outperform a PC on Apple’s own chips and there’s nothing PC vendors can do about it. Ugh, I hate comparisons that make the Mac look like a commodity.

    Didn’t Steve say he wanted to own the whole system. Reliance on intel invites these commodity comparisons. ARM team, you have your marching orders.

    1. First, not all the laptops shown have the same thermal problems as the new i9 MacBook Pro. Making such an egregious error hurts the rest of your argument.

      Second, ARM based chips will eventually come, but the ARM based chips will have less in common with Apple’s current A-series chips for iPhones and iPads than most people think. Besides, Apple will need to develop an inline conversion capability in macOS — something that will be a bigger deal than the switch from 68K to PowerPC or from PowerPC to x86.

      1. Converting to ARM from Intel would indeed be a bigger deal than the prior conversions. In the first place, there are now a lot of existing users who need to run Windows or UNIX software on their Macs. ARM-based Macs would have to be much, much faster than the CPUs they replaced in order to have even minimally acceptable performance while running in an emulator for Intel/AMD code.

        More importantly, all existing MacOS software is Intel-only, too, and would take the same speed hit from emulation. If you think Premier runs slowly now! All those old apps could be recompiled, of course, but that transition could take years, like the last two changeovers. Some programs would never be updated.

        New programs targeting the ARM processor and taking advantage of its native features would not run on Intel-based Macs. There would necessarily have to be provision for “fat binaries” containing machine code for both processor families. As the term suggests, these apps would be behemoths at least twice the size of existing versions of the same software and consuming resources accordingly.

        All these problems could probably be overcome, but only with an enormous effort. This isn’t about just slapping a new CPU into an existing computer design. The transition may come, but not quickly or easily.

        1. “existing users who need to run Windows or UNIX software on their Macs”
          And they will still HAVE their existing Macs and those Macs will likely not lose the ability to emulate other OS’s. But, for anyone that NEEDS virtualization on Mac OS, I just searched for “virtualization”. No hits. I would not be surprised if virtualization becomes one of those things only
          older systems do (like run PowerPC programs).

  6. Did you read your own headlines? Facebook shres fail. AAPL record closing and inter day high. Has everyone on this site become a hopeless whiner? Can Apple do better? Sure it can, but stop with all the bitching. Their business model is great and they fixed the problem in short order. Just get your diapers changed and STFU!

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