Apple wants $1 billion from Samsung at iPhone copying retrial; Samsung wants to pay just $28 million

“Apple Inc. is seeking about $1 billion from Samsung Electronics Co. in another go-round stemming from a long-running smartphone patent-infringement dispute,” Joel Rosenblatt reports for Bloomberg. “Jurors at the retrial before before U.S. District Judge Lucy Koh in San Jose, California, learned at the outset that the South Korean company infringed three of Apple’s design patents and two utility patents. Their sole job, Apple lawyer Bill Lee said, is to determine what damages Apple can collect.”

“The basic question for the jury is: Should Samsung have to pay damages on the whole device or just the components that were infringed? Samsung says the latter — and is urging the jury to limit damages to $28 million,” Rosenblatt reports. “‘Lawsuits can take a long time,’ Lee told jurors Tuesday. He asked them to ‘step back in time’ to 2006 to consider flip phones, sliders, and what other cell phones looked like before Apple’s iPhone.”

“Samsung made $3.3 billion in revenue and $1 billion in profit from millions of phones that infringed Apple’s three design patents, Lee said. That’s apart from profits Samsung made from infringing two of Apple’s utility patents, Lee said,” Rosenblatt reports. “Samsung lawyer John Quinn told jurors to maintain an ‘open mind’ and resist Apple’s casting South Korean company as being ‘mired’ in old phone models until it copied Apple.”

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MacDailyNews Take: $1 billion is a laughable pittance compared to what Samsung stole from Apple. $28 million would be just another crime committed against the creator of the smartphone as we know it today.

Thanks mostly to the glacial pace of legal proceedings, justice will never be served in these cases of obvious theft, patent infringement, and trade dress infringement.

The main reason why Samsung and the rest of the thieves are able to sell phones and tablets at all was because they made and continue to make fake iPhones and fake iPads designed to fool the ignorati in much the same way that Microsoft et al. profited wildly from upside-down and backwards fake Macs at the end of the 20th century. Google, Samsung, HTC, Xiaomi, et al. are the Microsofts, HPs, Dells, and eMachines of the new century.

If it’s not an iPhone, it’s not an iPhone.

Apple’s products came first, then Samsung’s:

Samsung Galaxy and Galaxy Tab Trade Dress Infringement

Here’s what Google’s Android looked like before and after Apple’s iPhone:

Google Android before and after Apple iPhone

And, here’s what cellphones looked like before and after Apple’s iPhone:

cellphones before and after Apple iPhone

People who buy Android phones and tablets reward thieves.

SEE ALSO:
Samsung tries to further reduce Apple’s iPhone patent award – May 14, 2018
iPhone X drives smartphone revenue dominance; Apple made more money in Q417 than the rest of the smartphone makers combined – February 16, 2018
Apple iPhone took more than half of worldwide smartphone revenue share in Q417, a new record – February 15, 2018
Strategy Analytics: Apple has shipped 1.2 billion iPhones in the past 10 years; $760 billion in global revenue to date – September 8, 2017
Apple took 83% of smartphone market profits in calendar first quarter – May 16, 2017
How important is Apple’s iPhone market share? – May 29, 2017

14 Comments

  1. Dear MDN, regarding you take, you are helping Samsung by displaying horrible and annoying Google ads all over your page, you are helping google subsidize Andriod that Samsung relays on so much

  2. Or pay for damage done, what a concept. Anyway this is certainly turning into a fun fiasco. I feel sorry for Jobs, who went on stage and said that they had protected the iphone from such copying tactics.

  3. The last laugh belongs to Apple, not because of patents (which are important) but because of Apple’s entire product line: Macs, iPhones, iPads, Apple Watch, HomePod Services, and Accessories.

    Pick up one and it operates pretty much like all the others (making allowances for user interface). Then there’s Services, the glue that (intentionally) holds it all together.

    NO competitor, no matter how hard they try, can match the scale of interoperability of Apple.

    There’s a reason Apple products successfully sell at a substantial premium compared to Android. Discerning users recognize the value of ease of use, construction quality, and product reliability, and are willing to pay for such.

    Android product manufacturers are hampered, no matter their intentions, to achieve what Apple has because of Android itself.

    This is clearly observable with the advent of Touch ID, Face ID, and the iPhone X. Apple/iPhone is currently two years ahead of the entire Android community, achieved with both proprietary hardware and proprietary software and the technology optimization that controlling both provide.

    Additionally, Apple’s ability to control key technology by buying (before the competition recognizes its value) entire production capacity of suppliers, a tactic Apple has successfully used/uses since the original iPod.

    Mobility has entered a new stage, that will result in a new round of sales growth over the next five years (at the expense of “premium” Android handsets).

    1. “NO competitor, no matter how hard they try, can match the scale of interoperability of Apple.”

      There’s this cool new thing going around, the PC. It sets a standard that anyone can play in, and they all work together. PCs come in two major flavors… Wintel and Mactel. The Mactel ones are the one’s that don’t play as well with others.

  4. One billion is not enough. More like, all profit and cost of their iPhone knock offs should be paid to apple until they stop selling a mobile phone.

    Then and only they should apple consider letting them make that knock for 2,000,000,000.00 per quarter.

    1. More likely Samsung will price components to Apple accordingly to make up any ‘losses’ they incur from this case. In effect Apple paying itself damages.

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