“Now that he’s in his 50s, Bill Gates is still fanatical — fanatical about Microsoft’s new tablet/PC thingy known as the Surface, a device he believes Apple may have to follow,” Chris Matyszczyk reports for CNET.
“Gates described how his goal with Microsoft had been to deliver ‘the magic of software to people both in their work and in their home,'” Matyszczyk reports. “Surface, he insisted, is a new form factor. He called it ‘exciting.’ (He subsequently got even more excited about that excitement.) ‘You don’t have to make a compromise. You can have everything you like about a tablet and everything you like about a PC all in one device. And so that should change the way people look at things.'”
Matyszczyk reports, “How come, though, pressed [interviewer Charlie] Rose, Jobs was able to cross the tablet threshold and Gates wasn’t? ‘He did some things better than I did,’ admitted Microsoft’s co-founder.”
Read more in the full article here.
MacDailyNews Take: Besides banking cash, something at which he was no slouch but didn’t much care about, either, Steve Jobs did everything better than the increasingly delusional Gates.
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Are you kidding me right now?
Seriously???
As if he plans to say the next iPad copied them!!!
I’d like to give Bill Gates a huge wedgy right now just based on cluelessness alone. And a multiple Biff Tannen “HELLO!” knock upside the head. Well I guess Gates is mainly just good now for tech comedy relief in his old age.
Memo to Bill Gates:
Bill,
Please stop making embarrassing remarks like this, it’s my trademark. Besides, in case you hadn’t noticed our Surface “product” is a direct spin-off of Apple’s current iPad device, so how are they going to spin-off our spin-off.
Oh, stop, this is making it hurt behind my eyes.
Sincerely,
S. Balmer
The latest issue of Vanity Faire tells the ‘inside story’ about how Balmer and bureaucracy turned Microsoft into the company they had always laughed at …
http://www.vanityfair.com/online/daily/2012/07/microsoft-downfall-emails-steve-ballmer
I like our stragety, I like it a lot …..
I think he means Apple will have to put a floppy flap on the back… now that’s real innovation.
‘He did some things better than I did,’
Some??
Fanatical, delusional, and dishonest with himself.
I bet if they drank enough Exlax, Billy and Ballmer would find their heads. Maybe.
Oh my gosh I almost busted a gut laughing at that one!! Thanks for the afternoon zinger!!
They would probably package the “results” of the Exlax and call it magic!
Here is a possible problem with that statement. They have shit for brains!
Wow, these posts hame made my 4th, LOL!
You’ve unintentionally disclosed Zune production trade secrets…
– Sparky
Un freaking believable…..
Wow… Windows 8 is the very definition of “compromise.”
Gates said “the Surface may force Apple to rethink its own approach to the iPad.” Yeah but wouldn’t that actually be a DOWNgrade? Why would Apple want to make the iPad a worse experience only Microsoft has an exclusive on?
Bill, give it up. Apple created the current tablet market that you now copy. You made your attempt ten years earlier and it was a flop. So, I would advise to keep your mouth shut. You are one clueless Steve Jobs wannabe.
The irony: out of all the companies..MS should see that the enterprise “PC” is again transitioning into a “thin client”. With Citrix, and great VNC/RDP support, the iPad or tablet in general makes for a great iPad replacement. Churning out a tablet/ultra book mix isn’t the answer..especially when it will cost the same as a more capable ultra book. Consumers don’t want the intel surface. Enterprise doesn’t want Win 8. This is dead in the water.
iPad or tablet in general makes for a great iPad replacement
?????????????????
My organization offered the option of a thin client and one division pushed it as a test case. It was a dismal failure and those people are being transitioned back to full-featured desktops/laptops. Just another brief thin client cycle in the circle of life.
+1
Lmao!!!
I knew there was something wrong with the water in Seattle…
Ha Ha Ha
(wipes eyes)
Ha Ha Ha
Microsoft says “no compromises” eh?
Well I can’t wait to turn a Surface into portrait mode and witness all its uncompromising agility!
But would I need to go into a Microsoft store to perform such an experiment? (Perhaps not.)
Flip a Surface over into portrait mode? No problem!
Here’s a link to the illustration:
(Enjoy)
-hh
stuck on big ass table mini me
Are people so naive as to think Apple didn’t already ask these questions?
Ah hahahhaha!
Ah hahaha!
Oh wait he’s serious?
Let me laugh even harder!
AH HAHAHAHAHA!
Apparently I missed Charlie Rose moving to the Comedy channel?!?!
I think what Bill is trying to say is that he thinks Apple should be announcing more vapor ware.
“Surface-like”? The iDoorstop? The iPaperweight? The iLostItWeeksAgoButIDon’tCareBecauseItNeverWorkedRightAnyway?
I’m surprised Gates never went into politics. Regardless of affiliation, he’d be a perfect fit in DC. That type of stone cold Orwellian logic is what it takes to be a politician, which is why regular humans can’t cut it. It takes a special kind of monster, and Gates could’ve walked into the White House backwards.
“‘He did some things better than I did,’ ”
yep:
a few small things like:
— better hardware
— better software
— better design
— better eco system
— better shops
— better customer support
That’s what I was thinking too. Gates said a mouthful there.
you left out better ideas (make that any ideas)
Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha!
http://www.google.com/finance?chdnp=0&chdd=0&chds=0&chdv=1&chvs=maximized&chdeh=1&chfdeh=0&chdet=1341353704909&chddm=506602&chls=IntervalBasedLine&cmpto=NASDAQ:AAPL&cmptdms=0&q=NASDAQ:MSFT&ntsp=0
’nuff said!!!
If you take the chart back to 2000 it really shows the difference. MS is flat lined all away across. Their investors must be thinking why didn’t we invest in Apple?
Gates realizes that his beloved company is tanking and the guy running it into the ground can’t make it work. So he has to step up and do some marketing and propaganda for the company. It’s a pathetic thing to see!
They really need to change the company name to Wintelsoft. It seems they are a one trick pony. Every attempt they have made on other architectures has ended in failure.
When all you have is a hammer, everything looks like a nail!
Sometimes I wonder if Gates is waiting for Balmer to sink the ship (picked him Intentionally to sink it) so he can swoop back in at the last minute and ‘save’ Microsoft. He’s always been jealous of Steve Jobs… Insanely so…
But he’s admitted he does not have Steve Jobs taste – a big DUH there. Microsoft HAS no taste, never has. Not with the dummy filter at the top.
He won’t go back because if he did and Apple beat the snot out of MSFT he’d have been at the helm. Too big a risk.
That’s not an ‘if.’
Billy thinks the Surface is “exciting”? Hmmm… yeah, he must think enemas are exciting too.
By “exciting” (to Microsoft’s standard) he means same old same old and the only thing they know. What’s really new about it the way they present it – a laptop computer with a removable keyboard? It’s not really designed to be an easy to use media consumption device, more a mediocre clumsy device.
Pay no attention to that man behind the curtain…!
Surface is exciting? has to be if you’re face down!
Bill just needs to shut up, the man lost his mind along time ago and now it’s seeping into the News.
When this guy talks no one listens except when he throws around a few million.
What a hasbeen.
All the media are telling people that the iPad has no keyboard and so is not as good as Surface. Somebody please show these idiots all the keyboards that are available for the iPsd.
Well you know, now we will play the spec game! Touch, check, keyboard, check, toilet paper, check, you get the idea.
It’s working for Samsung and android so far. Consumer reports will just love the crap out of the specs for “surface”.
All I have to say is that on Star Trek, a PADD was used for many things, but an actual computer was used for more complicated tasks.
This is Apple’s stance, and I think a correct one.
Computers will change, but tablets have their place as less complicated data access and input devices.
We do not need an all in one device, and honestly the iPad provides everything a tablet should, but Microsoft is doing this to separate themselves from the pack.
With out full computer features, they would be no different.
Either way, it’s powered by Windows 8… enough said.
Gates has gone beyond being delusional.
He has either become seriously addicted to pot or Alzheimer’s is setting in.
May be he should change the name from MICRO-SOFT to MEGA-STIFF!! Lol
Gates isn’t the drug taking type and he’s not old enough to be senile, but something has fried the logic area of his brain.
Nah, it isn’t drugs or Alzheimer’s.
It’s simply Bill Gates drinking his own kool-aid.
Gotta love Charlie Rose. That guy’s got some real Apple product loyalty!
http://m.techcrunch.com/2008/03/17/charlie-rose-face-plants-to-save-his-macbook-air/
Loved his Pixar – Jobs interview too… He doesn’t dodge the hard questions
Interesting that Gates is talking about a new product rather than Balmer. Is there a whiff of panic in the air?
Everything Microsoft does are just like trucks. Microsoft is basically a software company, where it can add features willy nilly to its softwares. It is trying to treat hardwares like softwares, where adding features for features sake is the way to go. No wonder, every softwares of Microsoft are feature-rich and blotted. Likewise in hardwares, the Microsoft’s and Google’s camps the hardwares are also feature-heavy and blotted. Imagine driving a truck to do everyday and mundane tasks in the neighborhood!
Apple also has feature rich operating systems (maybe that’s part of why we see the beach ball more as time progresses) but not all of them are known. You end up discovering many of them and going “woah, holy crap! I didn’t know you could do that when I bought this!” but so much of the time, you’re quite happy with the discovery and end up using it a lot and thinking, “why the hell don’t all computers do this?”
http://m.techcrunch.com/2008/03/17/charlie-rose-face-plants-to-save-his-macbook-air/
You can tell that Microsoftians are scared. They had to send in Gates to shore up their faltering game.
I love the last two lines of the article:
‘ “This is a seminal event,” he [Gates] declared.
All we need now are the date of the seminal event and the price of entry to it.’
LOL!
Only in his 50’s and suffering from dementia.
Sad, really.
I think I read that he has a padded trampoline room in his monstrous home.
Maybe that’s where he’ll spend his declining years, bouncing off the walls in a room with no Windows.
Very funny! No windows, that should drive him mad!
“Now that he’s in his 50s..”
What? Like Gates’ age has anything to do with it!
Steve was in his 50s too. So?
I’m in my 50s as well.. Triple so fsking what!!!
I am also in my 50’s and age has nothing to do with Mr. Gates loosing touch with reality, but that does not exclude other factors that we do not know about.
ow, jeez, I hurt myself laughing so hard…
Uh, Bill, I think you’re going to have enough of a hard time just trying to get some of those M$ “partners” to follow you down that slippery SURFACE path, so don’t think Apple will be behind you when you look back. If you want to see where Apple is look far, far ahead of you (with binoculars!).
With the “vision” Bill Gates has repeatedly demonstrated, binoculars would not suffice. Try the Arecibo radio telescope.
It’s called the MacBook Air.
In one of the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation conference room…
Melinda Gates: ” O O.. Keep it going Bill.. It feels good”
Bill Gates: ” I am hot plugging ‘it’ as hard as I can”
Melinda Gates: “Don’t stop Bill.. O… ”
Bill Gates: “Sorry honey… I cann’t do it no more…”
Melinda Gates: ” Don’t you dare to ‘Zune’ on me… I have the best ‘Surface’ ever!!”
Bill Gates: ” I need to ‘Ctrl’ ‘Alt’ ‘Del’ myself…”
Melinda Gates: “C’Mon Bill… You BSOD on me again…”
– The End –
I’m not surprised one bit.
Gates idea of a tablet was always a full blown Windows install, which is why it always failed.
In his mind Microsoft “has it nailed” this time since Apple came in and showed how its done, he figures they have borrowed just enough of the pieces to bring his dream OS back from the dead.
I’m sure Apple had lively debates about the right way to make the iPad. I also bet that included bringing over the full blown OS X. Maybe Bill should ask himself why Apple did not take this direction ?
Note to general public: Bill Gates is not a genius.
Don’t be so hard on Gates people. He’s as trapped in the Windows ecosystem as any other Windows sufferer.
Lighten up. Give the man his due.
Is there due for ill-gotten gains?
Has BG forgotten that Microsoft tried and failed to get “tablet computing” off the ground for quite a few years before Apple came along and showed everyone how to do it right?
MAC Lemmings – Here’s what I have to say about the IPad:
500 dollars? Fully subsidized? Without a plan? I said that is the most expensive Surface wanna-be in the world. And it doesn’t appeal to business customers because it doesn’t have a keyboard. Which makes it not a very good email machine. Now it may sell very well.
What color do you think the sky is in Gates’ world? I ask because they apparently don’t have iPads where he lives. It’s that or he’s smoking/shooting/snorting (or all 3) some really good drugs.
Why would Apple waste there time and money on that piece of garbage. Tim Cook said it already, Apple will not make a device like that because it will fail.
Really?
A crap tablet with a flimsy plastic keyboard dangling from it is a new form factor? I hope with the keyboard, unfortunate Surface owners can CTRL+COMM+ESC to unfreeze their tablets or something.
Most intelligent people will realize that there are a bunch of keyboards built into the iPad cases for those that need a keyboard?
MS should have invented something new rather than copying Apple and then copying an accessory manufacturer.
So pathetic. MS has no balls. Gates is proof of that. He can’t throw enough money at MS to make something worthy so he gives money to worthier causes.
Jobs experimented with acid, Gates appperantly has been on it since 1976. There is no other way to explain his delusional belief that he contributed anything to the tech world other than an inferior copied product. The best thing Microsoft can do with the Surface is to use it as a blunt object and get Steve “Assclown” Ballmer out of the way.
To paraphrase SJ, is he inebriated?
Well, that seals it… If Gates says it, you can bet your last $ 4 bucks that Apple will DO NOTHING THAT LOOKS / SMELLS / ACTS like a Micrshaft tablet – EVER!
Just a quick word to Bill…. Your plebes tablet blows chunks…
Gates is trying to prepare the MS Surface for market share dominance by reducing the current Apple iPad tablet leader market share by making asinine comments causing mass iPad users to die laughing! More news at Eleven…
In his dreams!
With all due respect, there really will be two “Surfaces” (if they ever see the light of day). One runs on ARM/Win8RT (or whatever it’s call) and the other running on Intel. Apple already makes these two machines: iPad and MBAir.
I agree with Bill Gates.
iPad is not for getting serious office work done. Great for other things for play, but not for work.
Aside from the many Macs I’ve owned over the decades – I presently have several iMacs, a few MBPs and MBAs. But I think for tablet work, I’ll be going with the Windows tablet. I’m hoping that Windows RT at least has a file storage system similar to Finder and Windows Explorer.
The fact that iOS does not have a proper filing system means they’re targeting people who use their iPads for fun purposes, and making working people adapt to that majority-rules approach.
Of course I haven’t gotten my hands on a Windows RT tablet yet, but I assume Microsoft is going to make their tablets more work-friendly than iPads. I use iOS already on my iPhone, so I realise that it is not adapted to office work. It’s great for fun purposes – emailing, Facebook, web surfing – but the minute you create and do work on it, you need to file your stuff in folders in a systematic way.
Sure, there’s Dropbox – but the fact that Apple refused to create their own filing system means that the fun-focus permeates their entire design ethos.
So, as a confirmed Mac addict – I am going to Microsoft for my tablet products.
Couldn’t Apple have done the same thing as MS is hoping to succeed at? And didn’t Steve Jobs say when talking about the this new category, said that the tablet had to do certain things and do them very well. If you try to make a tablet a PC are you not betraying that philosophy? Not saying it won’t work, maybe it will, but then again, maybe opening up a whole can of worms that was MS’s problem for the last 10 years they were stuffing their OS into OEM tablets prior to the iPad. Anyway, when the Surface arrives, let us know if it excels at what you are hoping it can accomplish and do for you.
“. . . but I assume Microsoft is going to make their tablets more work-friendly than iPads.”
And would you say that with the first iterations of the SURFACE tablets being limited to Wi-Fi only is worker-friendly?
Ref.: http://goo.gl/0dfWE
Now Ballmer, don’t you have anything better to do than post on MDN?
http://www.modbook.com
I agree that for heavy users w/lots (1000s) of files they want to access on an iPad there needs to be a solution.
All it would take to put a work related solution on the iPad is Apple putting out a “Finder App”.
It is still a computer with file headers, etc., so a file indexing system already exists, it is just not shown publicly.
I smell viral marketer.
Why use a Surface over a Macbook Air? Because you hate yourself and want to be tortured by using a traditional PC shoe-horned into a tablet form factor?
To some extent, I do agree with Gates.
Would’nt it be nice if we could have a full fledged OS experience in a tablet? And, with that in mind, replace our larger laptops all together?
I’m not saying Apple should go and do this. But is it not only logical that if we are making a shift from Laptops to tablets, we migrate the full fledged operating system with us? At least all of the OS X features? The (iOS) UI can stay the way it is.
But don’t take this so critical. This is just an opinion
“Would’nt it be nice if we could have a full fledged OS experience in a tablet? ”
No, it wouldn’t be. That’s why Windows tablets have been rejected by consumers for 12 straight years while the iPad was accepted with open arms.
Well, to some degree, you are right.
I guess my point was: the iPad is great. But it feels kind of like a toy. You can not really do a lot of “serious” work on it (yet). I was really excited when Apple announced apps like iWork and iMovie would be available for the iPad. But, upon downloading them, I realized the suite had been compromised. iMovie had only to offer really basic editing, a lot of iWork templates were unavailable, and other apps were also compromised.
I have no complaints about how the iPad is now. But I do wish they could bring the whole thing in and not just a simplified version of the full app.
When will these people wake up and smell the coffee? Such an absurd statement fron bill gates, he among other people should know tne apple ipad is king and microsoft he desperate to catch up
“You don’t have to make a compromise. You can have everything you like about a tablet and everything you like about a PC all in one device.”
Gee, Bill… if you didn’t make any compromise, why are there two versions of the surface? One that’s more like a tablet and one that’s more like a PC.
Good point.
” . . . You can have everything you like about a tablet and everything you like about a PC all in one device.”
Well, except for one small nicety like mobile roaming connectivity with the SURFACE being limited to Wi-Fi networking only.
Ref.: http://goo.gl/0dfWE
Yes and which of the seven OS’es will it have? Student, Home, Office, Pro, etc.? Why not just one OS for all your computers as well. Then you really have no compromises? One PC, one tablet, one OS to be able to run on both.
I watched the interview with Charlie Rose. It was pure idiotic Bill Gates doing what he does best: Lie for his own benefit. Spinning, spinninger, spinningest.
I am soooo going to enjoy the latest in his long line of futurist proclamation FAILs. Surface (v2) is going down the drain of history alongside the Metro GUI. Sell your MS stock now. I won’t be pretty.
The only good thing in the Interview that did not attract my [expletives deleted] ire was his insistent reluctance to accept legendary status from TechTard Charlie Rose or to denigrate Steve Jobs. It was extremely odd to watch him being sincere in light of his usual Microsoft pimping.
Also I should point out that his foundation’s contributions to inoculating the world against diseases might actually be humanitarian. Imagine that.
This ‘Surface thing’ looks like an ultra-cheap notebook running Windows OS with a crappy keyboard, don’t you think? 😉
Give the man a break, guys. All his money is tied up in Microsoft shares, and Ballmer has halved their value. OF COURSE he is going to talk this thing up. Now excuse my while I revert to hysterical laughter.
Bill, it’s called the MacBook Air,
Back in 2006 a video leaked from within Microsoft that showed how Microsoft could clutter up iPod packaging. I’d like to see a similar video on a tablet. Start with an iPad, add keyboard, stylus, Windows operating system, etc. The finished product is a Surface. Microsoft hasn’t changed/learned. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yvh5k1RWER4&feature=youtube_gdata_player
Bill, remain quietly as a pensioner. Sit down on your billions and let the serious people work, please!
Some people refuse to not have a keyboard; I work with many of them. They are certain that a keyboard on a screen cannot work, so they buy Droids and devices such as Surfaces. Once they try virtual keyboards, they find that they are quite usable; however, by then it is too late: they already own the other product.
Besides, it is uncool for an IT techie (myself and those I am describing) to use an Apple product. Fortunately for me, I don’t particularly care if I am regarded as cool or not. I just like products that work: Apple does, Microsoft does not.
But Logitech makes very nice keyboards for the iPad. In fact, the iPad works perfectly well with every BT keyboard around. Whazzabigdeal?
can somebody pronounce the reporter’s last name?????
Look, that’s a sensitive issue, OK? People can’t help it if their ancestors came over during the Great Vowel Famine of 1831.
Apple was just the first to put the components together at the critical time, but like Steve Job said it is not about the hardware but the software. Osx based on unix is scalable without the os falling, so Apple was able to get the ios to the magical slate first. The genius was to to create a marketplace and get develeopers onboard. This was successful and was taken to market years ahead of any compeditor. There will always be someone that will not buy Apple hell I use thier products but find dealing with the company like negotiating (not) with a mix of nickolodeon and the SS and fear thier 1984 advert is about Apple enslaving
the world not freeing it. Humans a virus self perpetuated.
Ps. Apple please design the new Mac Pro with tooless removable hard drive bays.
What Bill really means is that Apple won’t be a real company until they make a Big Ass Tablet!
When did Gates start doing stand-up?
Man.. Gates must have delusion of grandeur! Or lives in his own shut in world. AKA Zanadu. Soon he will be mumbling Rosebud… or in his case Surface…
Hum… Or could be he had a BSOD ( Brain Screen of Death ) and needs a reboot.
I have two iPads a #1 & #3. Uses them at a convention last weekend. Did not have time to pack up a computer to take with me. But worked out well using the iPad’s ^_^
The day Apple takes its hardware cues from Microsoft is the day Mrs. Gates’s little boy Billy admits Apple is the better company.
I noticed no talk about battery life. Also kicks ass that they have ports at seemingly random spots along the side of the thing. It’ll look great with stuff plugged into the side of the screen while using your keyboard.
In one of the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation conference room…
Melinda Gates: ” O O.. Keep it going Bill.. It feels good”
Bill Gates: ” I am hot plugging my “USB device” as hard as I can into your ‘Surface”s ports”
Melinda Gates: “Don’t stop Bill.. O… ”
Bill Gates: “Sorry honey… I cann’t do it no more…, my “Battery” run out”
Melinda Gates: ” Don’t you dare to ‘Zune’ on me… I have the best ‘Surface’ ever!!”
Bill Gates: ” Sorry Melinda… I need to ‘Ctrl’ ‘Alt’ ‘Del’ myself…”
Melinda Gates: “C’Mon Bill… You BSOD on me again…Your “kernel’ sucks!!”
Melinda Gates: “Can you perform like iPad… it keep going, going, and going… I heard it can last up to 10 hours…”
Bill Gates: “Who care about iPad… I prefer your ‘Surface'”
Melinda Gates: “Does it f**king matter now? Your ‘Zune’ or ‘Kin’-like equipment die faster than ‘WebOS’ – f**king useless!!”
🙂
I thought the iPad was the Surface Mini?
The only place where Joni Ives designs something close to the “Surface” is his bowels.