[Thanks to MacDailyNews Reader “Patrice” for the heads up.]
While it may be argued that recording/time shifting was never what Apple TV was about – after all, it’s meant to be a wireless link from iTunes to your TV – there are a few things that can be done besides adding DVR capability that would help sales:
• Let iTunes rip DVDs as it can rip CDs for music.
• Let Apple TV users buy TV shows, movies, videos, and music content directly from the iTunes Store; eliminate the need for the computer (Just like the new iPod touch and iPhone can now do with music). Having the computer stuck in the middle of the process is a needless PITA – no matter what kind of computer you use.
• Get the networks and studios to sell more content.
• Offer a monthly subscription plan a la (gulp) cable that lets users watch some amount of programming per month (iTunes Store’s current Season passes sort of accomplish this for individual shows (too expensive for mass appeal, though), but how about subscribing to a network for a monthly rate or maybe selling an hour or blocks of content (ex. 10 hours or even 10 episodes (up to an hour each) or 10 movies per month at reasonable prices)? Unlike music, people tend to watch TV shows and movies once, there is no need to “own” (and have to store) such content (beyond the few special movies people might want to own to watch multiple times).
• Stream live events (including, but not limited to CEO Steve Jobs’ keynotes and special events presentations)
• Upping iTunes Store content to HD (somehow overcoming the time-to-download factor)
Apple TV is good for watching a TV show episode that your DVR missed (which happens fairly often with the various crap DVRs offered by cable providers), watching P2P content of a serialized TV show that some network pulled midseason without notice (cough, Daybreak, cough), showing photos to family and friends, listening to music (if you have it hooked up to some decent speakers), audio and video podcasts, checking out movie trailers, and watching YouTube vids, but it could be so much more.
There’s nothing wrong with Apple TV that software updates and open-minded content providers couldn’t fix.
There are other ideas people have bandied about that range all over the place: from that always-mentioned DVR capability to offering porn (both of which may have the equal chance of never happening). Of course, Apple TV’s big road block remains the content providers, not Apple. We believe that Apple is severely constrained due to content use restrictions and unrealistic pricing demands by TV networks and movie studios.
Let us know if you have other ideas below.
I like all these ideas, I think Apple should strongly consider this a great working list to work towards. The DVR and ability to rip content and put large drives to it, would make ALOT of sense.
What I never understood was that it required a HD TV but doesn’t support HD content….
And the last thing a person who owns a HD TV is looking for is NON HD content…
It just never made much sense to me.
Two words:
Blu-ray drive
Apple TV is great for boring friends and neighbors with endless home video. I rip DVD’s with Handbrake and watch them when I can from aTV as well. I would very much like a an HD movie rental option, however!!!
That’s about 250,000 more products that Apple moved at $299 a piece than they would have had they not released it. Explain to me how that’s a flop? For just about any other company, that would be a moderate success – particularly for a product that has limited mass market appeal and very niche-oriented functionality.
Apple’s third chair leg will be revealed soon. Expect iPod/iPhone/Macs to all converge with AppleTV. Expect rentals.
I have 2 tivos and love them, I also have an Apple TV, they do different things, and I use them for different reasons. My Tivo is for TV, my Apple TV is for movies, pictures, YouTube, and music. I have more than 150 movies I’ve ripped from DVD (recently divorced, she got the disks, I used 42 to rip them before I left) I love the thing! I think it is an apple sleeper.
I have to say that my PS3 is a far better companion than AppleTV. It has Blu-ray, games and with the right software, it can access music, pictures and movies on my home server.
It does, however, have one of the most suck-tastic web browsers ever — on any platform. I hope they find a way to fix that because it really needs help.
AppleTV is interesting but not capable enough in its current form. Right now, the discontinued Eyehome is a far better choice for playing recorded TV, downloaded files, and iTunes content. It’s standard def, and the software interface is way clunky, but if you have an ethernet or at least a “G” wifi network, its quite usable. I picked up two for cheap on eBay.
it’s called version 1.1. many more to come!
An $87,500,000 flop.
I want to be in THAT business.
It suckes, no trueHD output, no xvid/divx. why would i bother? I already have a linux fileserver with about 3000 movies (2+ Tb
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Apple, if you’re serious: Fix HD and divx!
1) needs the ability to purchase from iTunes
2) I would want to be able to purchase a movie while at work and have it download to my Apple TV at home
3) rentals are a must
4) needs a TV tuner (but not DVR)
5) iPod Touch as a remote (with keyboard for YouTube search)
6) needs to look more like an consumer electronics device than a mini computer (look at the iPhone for clues)
“Two words:
Blu-ray drive”
Two more words Sony PlayStation. Everything Apple TV does and more.
Apple TV is an underachievement by Apple. A technology flop.
I could list many of the same missing features already discussed, but basically it is just a “half ass” attempt at a media server.
Need to kill it and turn the Mac Mini into a true media server with HDMI out to an HDTV.
blu ray drive?
So add another $700 to the price or sell it for a big loss like Sony does with their PS3?
Don’t think so.
Apple has the industry standard H.264, so why support the proprietary Divx format which sucks?
I purchased an Apple TV but not for watching video and I did not purchase at full price.
I think they are generally over priced units for what they do and I think that the video quality needs work, but Apple TV has promise.
I bought one at Circuit City as an open box buy for 1/2 price. I wanted to easily get to my 14000 song collection to my home entertainment system. The price I paid was well worth the convenience that I now have when accessing my music collection. I can’t store all of my songs on the Apple TV so I simply use it as a streaming device.
I hope Apple continues to invest in and develop Apple TV and offering more services and features and improving the video playback quality.
Well, it least the review wasn’t THIS bad…
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B000A0OVFA/ref=nosim/?tag=dealtime-watches-20&creative=380333&creativeASIN=B000A0OVFA&linkCode=asn
What would “fix” the aTV would be to:
1) incorporate an over-the-air ATSC Tuner
2) and the ability to hook it up to a current NTSC TV.
Then people could buy one as the adaptor box and get the $40 Federal Rebate.
Just add:
3) DVD Ripping (like CD music ripping)
4) DVD Burning (like VHS recording)
and things will take off.
-hh
@Undertrader
so, wait a sec… i have two rooms, two HDTVs and two [cough] ComCast HD/DVR cable boxes.
they allow me to record/watch the programs anytime i want –even record two at once. these shows/movies are generally broadcast over and over again.
i am paying a monthly subscription/fee and extra for the 2nd room.
how am i stealing anything, and why would they care when i watch it –as i said they run over and over.
now, those boxen do have 1394 (firewire) so i could get it to a disc i suppose.
others such as tivo, i presume also have monthly or subscription fees, yes?
word: feeS as in sub and equipment monthly cable feeS.
Total Flop.
Once again apples closed system alienates what it’s user really wants from a product.
Maybe if the advertised it like the ipod it could gains strength. Then the could push for features that they feel they can’t include because of outside pressure.
No one except fanboys and users of this forum know about the apple tv. My friends and family certainly don’t.
I really like my apple tv…
BUT it is a long laborious process to export the various formats
of video into one that will play on it…
I understand the logic… They want customers to click and buy content at the iTunes music store where everything is painless…
AND they want to set some standards ensuring a higher quality video experience…
However, it is still a pain because Quicktime can play various formats as can iTunes for audio… AAC is superior but they didn’t force all songs to be AAC on iPods like I feel they are doing on the apple TV. Perhaps they had to make it a pain to convince the movie studios…
Apple TV was COMPLETELY swamped by the media created by the iPhone
What’s a CEO to do? If Steve doesn’t announce everything at once, it’s a “disappointment” and the stock suffers. If Steve DOES announce everything at once, the products drown each-other out.
Not sure what’s better, twice-yearly “super keynotes” that cover the product line, or more-occasional focused addresses (i.e. pro, consumer, media, etc.).
I blame the content providers. Apple could be renting movies and challenging Blockbuster. What are The Studios thinking? Why do they think Apple is evil and Blockbuster is not?
I have 2 Apple TV’s. One for each widescreen TV in the house. I stream music, TV shows and over 300 movies. The Apple TV works flawlessly. I wish Apple could run a decent movie rental service or even a movie subscription service through the Apple TV. Until then I will just rip DVD’s and laugh at The Studios’ stupidity.
I cannot remember a time when anyone I know said “gee, I wish I could wirelessly stream content from my computer to my TV.
Perhaps.
But there have been times I’ve been in front of the TV, thinking “Gee! It’d be SWEET to have Front Row, with ALL of my stuff, right here right now”. Easy access to iTMS and YouTube would be a nice plus.
As for wireless streaming, it is overrated as a feature. It should be a silent part of keeping one’s Mac and TV in sync.