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If they really mean for this to happen, they'll have to put in a much bigger hard drive!

Or activate that USB port.

If they really mean for this to happen, they'll have to put in a much bigger hard drive!

Apparantly the AppleTV can access a USB external hard drive.

Oh Apple has thou foresaken Firewire?


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“And I don't know why [Apple is] acting like it’s superior. I don't even get it. What are they trying to say?” -- Bill Gates on the Mac ads

Interesting, very interesting!
What do you think Watson?

or open up the currently useless USB port...

...to the likes of LaCie and Freecom.

MW: develop

Yeah, WiseGuy, WTF is Apple doing with FireWire?

Adding it to TV would have been the PERFECT opportunity to push it!
Of course, they DID, foolishly, decide to drop FireWire from the iPod.

I guess Apple considers FireWire as viable only for the select, the Mac users, not the unwashed masses.

This and the Airport don't have Firewire for a external HD. Damn.

I like the name, "FireWire", it sounds fast and furious. Much better than 'USB' is so Micro$oft-like.

Apple doesn't usually add options on old equipment. Next year they'll offer new hardware with DVR functions and all the people with apple TV will have to buy a new units.

Firewire will be around for a while, but it's going away. USB2 is cheaper and nearly as good, so it will continue to grow and dominate.

What is "Firewire" ? Do I need to take some action ?

...what about "Firewire" for future AppleTVs as the HD phenomenon becomes a widley accepted standard? Comments, anyone?

Waiting for 3rd generation of Apple TV...

I don't understand how the apple tv could capture video or audio without any input jacks. Could someone explain?

"'USB' is so Micro$oft-like"

Nah, Micro$lut'd call it the "MicroSoft Windows Universal Super-Duper Connection Innovation" or sumthin'...

And it'd only work with Vista, i.e. not at all.

Waiting for one huge group shower with the unwashed masses. Pass the loofah.

TV is the most hackable computer out there. The word is getting out. People are going to do amazing things with this, and come out with amazing add-ons. Its a PLATFORM- just like the iPod. Apple itself will never come out with a DVR.

Why do you want to connect external harddrive to TV ??
You simply buy a Airport Extreme and hook up an external harddrive to it.
That simple.

Apple didn't take the time to develop FireWire just so it could let it "go away" due to crappy USB from Intel.

"TV is the most hackable computer out there. The word is getting out."


Yeah, that's exactly how Skynet started.

Apple blew it early on with Firewire.

They had the chance to push it as the de facto standard when they changed all the rules with the original iMac -- no floppy, no serial, no parallel -- USB (1.0), Ethernet, and CD-ROM standard. But no Firewire -- they reserved Firewire for the G3 tower professional set.

PC makers were being very slow to adopt USB. With the iMac, Apple was the industry force pushing USB to a standard.

At the same time, licensing fees for Firewire were high. And in addition to the chipset, if you wanted to use the term "Firewire" you had to pay an additional fee to Apple per unit shipped. While USB was growing and moving from 1.1 to 2.0, IEEE-1394, iLink, Firewire and others struggled because few knew they were the same thing, let alone far superior to USB.

Apple fought back, with the yet again superior Firewire 800, but again they reserved it for the professional set -- it's still left off the lower end modles. So the dust settled -- USB 2.0 was "good enough." The same song that Microsoft danced Windows to the top of the charts with -- "Good Enough is All You Need."

Firewire is ideal for video transfer and has been adopted by the industry. FW800 is non existent in consumer products and requires a different port to be used.

Unfortunately that cannot be said for external hard drives etc.

Apple will provide both FW and USB2 in their macs for a long time. However if FW does lose traction, expect them to drop it eventually.

Bottom line is that Apple need to be competitive. Utilizing USB2 where it makes sense is a good idea especially since a ton of peripherals use it. Sure it has some downsides but it is present in all modern PCs.

Apple didn't take the time to develop FireWire just so it could let it "go away" due to crappy USB from Intel.

I'm afraid that's exactly the case

Apple, since the return of Steve Jobs, has been moving in a downstream fashion to make their machines more PC like.

Remember Firewire was created because USB 1 was extremely slow and didn't serve the video professionals need.

Supposely on Intel Mac's USB 2 is nearly as fast as Firewire 400. Not the case on PPC Mac's where USB 2 is hobbled.

Firewire 800 still rules the roost though.

GOD I MISS MY FIREWIRE IPOD!!!

Ever load up a iPod using USB? S-L-O-W.

Perhaps there will be a USB 3 coming out soon that will be as fast as Firewire 800 and everything will even out, peace in the universe will reign.

Sorry about the typo.

Obviously "lower end modles" should have been "lower-end moodles" -- a new breed of cowdog specifically bred from cows and poodles.

"Moof!"

"Obviously "lower end modles" should have been "lower-end moodles" -- a new breed of cowdog specifically bred from cows and poodles."


Well, kirkgray, that should Clarus up.
Why? Because Susan Kare's.

"Remember Firewire was created because USB 1 was extremely slow and didn't serve the video professionals need."

Wrong. Firewire was created by Apple independently of USB.

1995 -- Firewire
1996 -- USB
1998 -- original iMac -- first use of USB by Apple
1998 -- G3 blue tower -- first use of Firewire by Apple

Which AppleTV Software ???
Dang, did I throw away a CD with the packaging ???
Or were these Actions part of the iTunes/Quicktime update ?

With respect to USB and FireWire, I believe that Apple is just skating to where the puck is going to be.

AppleTV only needs 2 of the 3 things below for me to buy one....
1. iTunes Movie subscription service. I don't want to rent my music but I don't want to own every movie I watch.
2. DVR capabilitites. I would love to see what the UI on an AppleDVR would be like.
3. DVD or BlueRay drive. That way I can get rid of my dvd player.

If Apple provides just 2 of these 3 and I will buy one. Instantly.


Magic Word: EYE. As in "I'm keeping my eye on AppleTV"

@ webmail4thomas

The software on the drive.

Google, you'll get it.

OK - I see all the possibilities of DVR, VOD etc.
I love it! I've been fooling around with stuff for quite a while on MACs and PCs. I have a bunch of both - BUT.
The question I have is - how long can the internet providers for the average Joe Public continue to supply the incredible amount of bandwidth that will be required to support all of this?

All the fancy hardware and software won't mean squat if you can't get the data in the first place.

This is bullshit,

Automator has had those actions for ages, they are part of quicktime.

NEXT !

They are listed in my Automator and it has never seen TV. From Automator...

New Audio Capture

This action opens a new QuickTime audio recording window.

Input: (Anything)

Result: (Anything)

Related Actions: Pause Capture, New Video Capture, Start Capture, Stop Capture

Automator also has "Ask for Movies". Maybe something with Jessica Alba in a skimpy outfit, no Nicholas Cage or Pauly Shore, some cool special effects and an intelligent screenplay with a believable plot? It said I could ask.

Oooo,,, my TiVo's getting a little nervous... NOT

"I guess Apple considers FireWire as viable only for the select, the Mac users, not the unwashed masses."

Firewire now falls into the category of legacy interfaces like rs-232 and parallel ports.