“Despite that neither firm has yet moved to include tablets within their PC marketshare figures is particularly risible when you consider both firms concede the iPad has impacted broader PC sales, impacting netbooks in particular,” Evans reports. “It is ever so obvious that iPads can be used as productivity devices — that’s why Fortune 500 companies are adopting them; that is why corporations are considering them a viable and lightweight alternative to notebooks for business trips… When, oh when, [will] Gartner and IDC accept the error of their ways and choose to recognise tablet sales as PC sales?”
Evans reports, “If they do, then imagine if Apple had sold just 4.5 million iPads in the last quarter (which seems conservative, given news out of Apple’s component supply chains). Add those sales to its PC sales and Steve Jobs now leads what is arguably the biggest [U.S.] computer company… Apple shipped [a roughly estimated] 1.9 million PCs in the US, compared to HP’s 4.5 million and Dell’s 4.3 million.”
Full article here.
MacDailyNews Take: As anyone who owns one understands, iPad is a personal computer.
[Thanks to MacDailyNews Reader “Dan K.” for the heads up.]
@ Derrek Currie,
Thanks, totally agree. I was using the term “openness” as it’s used by the Fandroids and Google… You are correct, it’s not open in reality, even compared to the Mac.
Good points!
Everyone, read that post!
@ Derrek Currie,
Thanks, totally agree. I was using the term “openness” as it’s used by the Fandroids and Google… You are correct, it’s not open in reality, even compared to the Mac.
Good points!
Everyone, read that post!
According to Dictionary.com: Computer
–noun
1.
Also called processor. an electronic device designed to accept data, perform prescribed mathematical and logical operations at high speed, and display the results of these operations. Compare analog computer, digital computer.
___
Sounds like an iPad.
According to Dictionary.com: Computer
–noun
1.
Also called processor. an electronic device designed to accept data, perform prescribed mathematical and logical operations at high speed, and display the results of these operations. Compare analog computer, digital computer.
___
Sounds like an iPad.
i personally think an ipad is a computer and should be counted as one. my camera is not a computer. this seems obvious to me. yet, i still wish apple would make a camera body. i am not kidding about all the buttons on it! we are going thru a period of huge transition, a lot of people don’t or won’t admit to this. there are a lot of people in denial about what is going on. and a lot of businesses on the brink of extinction.
i personally think an ipad is a computer and should be counted as one. my camera is not a computer. this seems obvious to me. yet, i still wish apple would make a camera body. i am not kidding about all the buttons on it! we are going thru a period of huge transition, a lot of people don’t or won’t admit to this. there are a lot of people in denial about what is going on. and a lot of businesses on the brink of extinction.
I love my iPad, but I still hook it up to my MacBook Pro to update its operating system, to add music to it that I’ve added to iTunes, to add new iPhoto albums to it, etc.
When the day comes that my iPad is independent of another computer to do these things because they can be done OTA (Over The Air), that’s a good day to starting counting it as a PC.
ps. I have MobileMe as well, so I know photo albums can be published, but that’s not copying it to my iPad; that’s a webpage like Flickr or Picasa.
I love my iPad, but I still hook it up to my MacBook Pro to update its operating system, to add music to it that I’ve added to iTunes, to add new iPhoto albums to it, etc.
When the day comes that my iPad is independent of another computer to do these things because they can be done OTA (Over The Air), that’s a good day to starting counting it as a PC.
ps. I have MobileMe as well, so I know photo albums can be published, but that’s not copying it to my iPad; that’s a webpage like Flickr or Picasa.
According to Dictionary.com:
personal computer
–noun
a microcomputer designed for individual use, as by a person in an office or at home or school, for such applications as word processing, data management, financial analysis, or computer games. Abbreviation: PC
Does THIS also sound like an iPad? To me, it kind of does.
According to Dictionary.com:
personal computer
–noun
a microcomputer designed for individual use, as by a person in an office or at home or school, for such applications as word processing, data management, financial analysis, or computer games. Abbreviation: PC
Does THIS also sound like an iPad? To me, it kind of does.
boyweho,
Well, theoretically, the only practical reason (other than backing up) for the need of a tethered Mac (or Windows) to an iPad is to update its OS. Otherwise, you can buy your music (and movies, and TV shows, and Apps) directly on the device; you can also get the camera adapter and transfer your pictures directly onto the iPad. Since vast majority of people who own an ordinary desktop computer (or a laptop) DON’T have any backup, an untethered iPad would be no different. When an update becomes available, you could presumably take the iPad to an Apple Store (or to someone with an internet-connected computer with iTunes installed), get the update, disconnect and go about your merry way.
boyweho,
Well, theoretically, the only practical reason (other than backing up) for the need of a tethered Mac (or Windows) to an iPad is to update its OS. Otherwise, you can buy your music (and movies, and TV shows, and Apps) directly on the device; you can also get the camera adapter and transfer your pictures directly onto the iPad. Since vast majority of people who own an ordinary desktop computer (or a laptop) DON’T have any backup, an untethered iPad would be no different. When an update becomes available, you could presumably take the iPad to an Apple Store (or to someone with an internet-connected computer with iTunes installed), get the update, disconnect and go about your merry way.
this dependence upon another computer is bothersome to me when i try to justify an ipad as a computer. personally i think it is a marketing tactic of apple’s and this will change soon enough when the time is right. but, this dependence could easily be used as justification to say that an ipad is nothing more than a computer peripheral and not a computer so we aren’t going to count it in the statistics. an ipod touch should be counted too, i think. it would have been counted as a computer, certainly, 15 years ago.
this dependence upon another computer is bothersome to me when i try to justify an ipad as a computer. personally i think it is a marketing tactic of apple’s and this will change soon enough when the time is right. but, this dependence could easily be used as justification to say that an ipad is nothing more than a computer peripheral and not a computer so we aren’t going to count it in the statistics. an ipod touch should be counted too, i think. it would have been counted as a computer, certainly, 15 years ago.
iOS devices are in fact PC’s, just in a non-traditional form. They do allow you to consume information, create content, entertain yourself, allow you to connect with others, etc… They are however limited in utility due to their form, but what they are capable of is enough for the mass majority of people who use a traditional PC.
ATM’s, cash registers, et al., are computing devices, but they are single purpose devices, not intended for general purpose use.
@ edward: “plus, it doesn’t have USB port like PC or mac”
Being a PC has nothing to do with being able to connect to peripherals. However, if that’s YOUR definition then you have to take into account that iOS devices can in fact have external peripherals connected over USB through the dock connector or over BlueTooth. Simplest example, I’m able to use my bluetooth keyboard with my iPad and iPhone.
iOS devices are in fact PC’s, just in a non-traditional form. They do allow you to consume information, create content, entertain yourself, allow you to connect with others, etc… They are however limited in utility due to their form, but what they are capable of is enough for the mass majority of people who use a traditional PC.
ATM’s, cash registers, et al., are computing devices, but they are single purpose devices, not intended for general purpose use.
@ edward: “plus, it doesn’t have USB port like PC or mac”
Being a PC has nothing to do with being able to connect to peripherals. However, if that’s YOUR definition then you have to take into account that iOS devices can in fact have external peripherals connected over USB through the dock connector or over BlueTooth. Simplest example, I’m able to use my bluetooth keyboard with my iPad and iPhone.
For those still claiming the iPad isn’t a personal computer…
It’s true, there are currently things that you can do on a traditional laptop that you can’t do on an iPad. You can run the Windows OS and most Windows desktop applications on any laptop (via emulation on a Mac), likewise, you can run the Adobe Creative Suite. You can multitask with simultaneous overlapping windows, and drag-and-drop data between these windows in the mode we’ve become accustomed to in the window-based desktop model.
These things are currently not possible on the the iPad.
But when iOS was first born on the iPhone, there was no multitasking, no copy/paste, no push notification system, not even an App Store.
These factors were added over time as they came to maturity, with simple software updates.
Few would argue that the ipad hardware isn’t capable of doing the things I outline above. And as the platform matures, more of these conventional workflow elements will be introduced, or perhaps re-imagined in a manner more appropriate to a touch-based system. Complex applications like those in the Adobe CS will be updated or written to take advantage of multi-touch, and new applications will be written to accomplish things we haven’t even thought of yet.
When that happens, then all these devices that you currently declare are not PCs suddenly will indeed be such. Millions of Apple computers will materialize in an instant.
Do you really think that’s not going to happen?
For those still claiming the iPad isn’t a personal computer…
It’s true, there are currently things that you can do on a traditional laptop that you can’t do on an iPad. You can run the Windows OS and most Windows desktop applications on any laptop (via emulation on a Mac), likewise, you can run the Adobe Creative Suite. You can multitask with simultaneous overlapping windows, and drag-and-drop data between these windows in the mode we’ve become accustomed to in the window-based desktop model.
These things are currently not possible on the the iPad.
But when iOS was first born on the iPhone, there was no multitasking, no copy/paste, no push notification system, not even an App Store.
These factors were added over time as they came to maturity, with simple software updates.
Few would argue that the ipad hardware isn’t capable of doing the things I outline above. And as the platform matures, more of these conventional workflow elements will be introduced, or perhaps re-imagined in a manner more appropriate to a touch-based system. Complex applications like those in the Adobe CS will be updated or written to take advantage of multi-touch, and new applications will be written to accomplish things we haven’t even thought of yet.
When that happens, then all these devices that you currently declare are not PCs suddenly will indeed be such. Millions of Apple computers will materialize in an instant.
Do you really think that’s not going to happen?
I think that neither IDC or Gartner count direct sales from Apple. They only count resale distribution channels.
There are multiple analysts predicting sales of over 4 million Macs for the latest quarter. While IDC and Gartner presumably miss direct shipments from Dell and HP, many of those are on the enterprise side.
With that in mind, Apple could already be the largest “consumer” PC supplier in the US, even without the iPad.
I think that neither IDC or Gartner count direct sales from Apple. They only count resale distribution channels.
There are multiple analysts predicting sales of over 4 million Macs for the latest quarter. While IDC and Gartner presumably miss direct shipments from Dell and HP, many of those are on the enterprise side.
With that in mind, Apple could already be the largest “consumer” PC supplier in the US, even without the iPad.
Let me correct something-
“(via emulation on a Mac)”
That should really have been “either natively or via virtualization on the Mac”
Let me correct something-
“(via emulation on a Mac)”
That should really have been “either natively or via virtualization on the Mac”
chrissy, you are right. and when that day happens it is going to be the kind of shock to a lot of people that would happen when aliens landed and then gave cnn an interview.
chrissy, you are right. and when that day happens it is going to be the kind of shock to a lot of people that would happen when aliens landed and then gave cnn an interview.
@ABQ Peter
The shock would be that the aliens would pick CNN for their interview.