Apple opposes President Trump’s proclamation on suspending U.S. entry of alien workers

Apple, along with several of nation’s largest tech companies — including Facebook, Amazon, and Microsoft — have joined the court battle against President Trump’s “Proclamation Suspending Entry of Aliens Who Present a Risk to the U.S. Labor Market Following the Coronavirus Outbreak.”

Robert Burnson for Bloomberg:

The group asked a court Monday to be allowed to add the industry’s voice to a lawsuit opposing the ban, saying it’s causing “irreparable harm on businesses and the nation’s economy.”

Trump issued a proclamation on June 22 that suspends a host of non-immigrant visa programs, including H-1B visas for high-skill specialty occupations, H-2B visas for nonagricultural workers, and L-1 visas for intra-company transfers.

Among the other tech companies seeking weigh into the federal court case in Oakland, California, are Adobe Inc., GitHub Inc. Intel Corp, and Microsoft Corp. The 52 companies separately filed a similar request in a challenge to Trump’s actions pending in Washington.

MacDailyNews Note: President Trump’s “Proclamation Suspending Entry of Aliens Who Present a Risk to the U.S. Labor Market Following the Coronavirus Outbreak, dated June 22, 2020, in full:

The 2019 Novel Coronavirus (COVID-19) has significantly disrupted Americans’ livelihoods. Since March 2020, United States businesses and their workers have faced extensive disruptions while undertaking certain public health measures necessary to flatten the curve of COVID-19 and reduce the spread of SARS-CoV-2, the virus that causes COVID-19. The overall unemployment rate in the United States nearly quadrupled between February and May of 2020 — producing some of the most extreme unemployment ever recorded by the Bureau of Labor Statistics. While the May rate of 13.3 percent reflects a marked decline from April, millions of Americans remain out of work.

In Proclamation 10014 of April 22, 2020 (Suspension of Entry of Immigrants Who Present a Risk to the United States Labor Market During the Economic Recovery Following the 2019 Novel Coronavirus Outbreak), I determined that, without intervention, the United States faces a potentially protracted economic recovery with persistently high unemployment if labor supply outpaces labor demand. Consequently, I suspended, for a period of 60 days, the entry of aliens as immigrants, subject to certain exceptions. As I noted, lawful permanent residents, once admitted pursuant to immigrant visas, are granted “open-market” employment authorization documents, allowing them immediate eligibility to compete for almost any job, in any sector of the economy. Given that 60 days is an insufficient time period for the United States labor market, still stalled with partial social distancing measures, to rebalance, and given the lack of sufficient alternative means to protect unemployed Americans from the threat of competition for scarce jobs from new lawful permanent residents, the considerations present in Proclamation 10014 remain.

In addition, pursuant to Proclamation 10014, the Secretary of Labor and the Secretary of Homeland Security reviewed nonimmigrant programs and found that the present admission of workers within several nonimmigrant visa categories also poses a risk of displacing and disadvantaging United States workers during the current recovery.

American workers compete against foreign nationals for jobs in every sector of our economy, including against millions of aliens who enter the United States to perform temporary work. Temporary workers are often accompanied by their spouses and children, many of whom also compete against American workers. Under ordinary circumstances, properly administered temporary worker programs can provide benefits to the economy. But under the extraordinary circumstances of the economic contraction resulting from the COVID-19 outbreak, certain nonimmigrant visa programs authorizing such employment pose an unusual threat to the employment of American workers.

For example, between February and April of 2020, more than 17 million United States jobs were lost in industries in which employers are seeking to fill worker positions tied to H-2B nonimmigrant visas. During this same period, more than 20 million United States workers lost their jobs in key industries where employers are currently requesting H-1B and L workers to fill positions. Also, the May unemployment rate for young Americans, who compete with certain J nonimmigrant visa applicants, has been particularly high — 29.9 percent for 16 19 year olds, and 23.2 percent for the 20-24 year old group. The entry of additional workers through the H-1B, H-2B, J, and L nonimmigrant visa programs, therefore, presents a significant threat to employment opportunities for Americans affected by the extraordinary economic disruptions caused by the COVID-19 outbreak.

As I described in Proclamation 10014, excess labor supply is particularly harmful to workers at the margin between employment and unemployment — those who are typically “last in” during an economic expansion and “first out” during an economic contraction. In recent years, these workers have been disproportionately represented by historically disadvantaged groups, including African Americans and other minorities, those without a college degree, and Americans with disabilities.

In the administration of our Nation’s immigration system, we must remain mindful of the impact of foreign workers on the United States labor market, particularly in the current extraordinary environment of high domestic unemployment and depressed demand for labor. Historically, when recovering from economic shocks that cause significant contractions in productivity, recoveries in employment lag behind improvements in economic activity. This predictive outcome demonstrates that, assuming the conclusion of the economic contraction, the United States economy will likely require several months to return to pre-contraction economic output, and additional months to restore stable labor demand. In light of the above, I have determined that the entry, through December 31, 2020, of certain aliens as immigrants and nonimmigrants would be detrimental to the interests of the United States.

NOW, THEREFORE, I, DONALD J. TRUMP, President of the United States, by the authority vested in me by the Constitution and the laws of the United States of America, including sections 212(f) and 215(a) of the Immigration and Nationality Act (INA) (8 U.S.C. 1182(f) and 1185(a)) and section 301 of title 3, United States Code, hereby find that the entry into the United States of persons described in section 1 of Proclamation 10014, except as provided in section 2 of Proclamation 10014, and persons described in section 2 of this proclamation, except as provided for in section 3 of this proclamation, would be detrimental to the interests of the United States, and that their entry should be subject to certain restrictions, limitations, and exceptions. I therefore hereby proclaim the following:

Section 1. Continuation of Proclamation 10014. (a) Section 4 of Proclamation 10014 is amended to read as follows:

“Sec. 4. Termination. This proclamation shall expire on December 31, 2020, and may be continued as necessary. Within 30 days of June 24, 2020, and every 60 days thereafter while this proclamation is in effect, the Secretary of Homeland Security shall, in consultation with the Secretary of State and the Secretary of Labor, recommend any modifications as may be necessary.”

(b) This section shall be effective immediately.

Sec. 2. Suspension and Limitation on Entry. The entry into the United States of any alien seeking entry pursuant to any of the following nonimmigrant visas is hereby suspended and limited, subject to section 3 of this proclamation:

(a) an H-1B or H-2B visa, and any alien accompanying or following to join such alien;

(b) a J visa, to the extent the alien is participating in an intern, trainee, teacher, camp counselor, au pair, or summer work travel program, and any alien accompanying or following to join such alien; and

(c) an L visa, and any alien accompanying or following to join such alien.

Sec. 3. Scope of Suspension and Limitation on Entry. (a) The suspension and limitation on entry pursuant to section 2 of this proclamation shall apply only to any alien who:

(i) is outside the United States on the effective date of this proclamation;

(ii) does not have a nonimmigrant visa that is valid on the effective date of this proclamation; and

(iii) does not have an official travel document other than a visa (such as a transportation letter, an appropriate boarding foil, or an advance parole document) that is valid on the effective date of this proclamation or issued on any date thereafter that permits him or her to travel to the United States and seek entry or admission.

(b) The suspension and limitation on entry pursuant to section 2 of this proclamation shall not apply to:

(i) any lawful permanent resident of the United States;

(ii) any alien who is the spouse or child, as defined in section 101(b)(1) of the INA (8 U.S.C. 1101(b)(1)), of a United States citizen;

(iii) any alien seeking to enter the United States to provide temporary labor or services essential to the United States food supply chain; and

(iv) any alien whose entry would be in the national interest as determined by the Secretary of State, the Secretary of Homeland Security, or their respective designees.

Sec. 4. Implementation and Enforcement. (a) The consular officer shall determine, in his or her discretion, whether a nonimmigrant has established his or her eligibility for an exception in section 3(b) of this proclamation. The Secretary of State shall implement this proclamation as it applies to visas pursuant to such procedures as the Secretary of State, in consultation with the Secretary of Homeland Security and the Secretary of Labor, may establish in the Secretary of State’s discretion. The Secretary of Homeland Security shall implement this proclamation as it applies to the entry of aliens pursuant to such procedures as the Secretary of Homeland Security, in consultation with the Secretary of State, may establish in the Secretary of Homeland Security’s discretion.

(i) The Secretary of State, the Secretary of Labor, and the Secretary of Homeland Security shall establish standards to define categories of aliens covered by section 3(b)(iv) of this proclamation, including those that: are critical to the defense, law enforcement, diplomacy, or national security of the United States; are involved with the provision of medical care to individuals who have contracted COVID-19 and are currently hospitalized; are involved with the provision of medical research at United States facilities to help the United States combat COVID-19; or are necessary to facilitate the immediate and continued economic recovery of the United States. The Secretary of State and the Secretary of Homeland Security shall exercise the authority under section 3(b)(iv) of this proclamation and section 2(b)(iv) of Proclamation 10014 to exempt alien children who would as a result of the suspension in section 2 of this proclamation or the suspension in section 1 of Proclamation 10014 age out of eligibility for a visa.

(ii) Aliens covered by section 3(b)(iv) of this proclamation, under the standards established in section 4(a)(i) of this proclamation, shall be identified by the Secretary of State, the Secretary of Homeland Security, or their respective designees, in his or her sole discretion.

(b) An alien who circumvents the application of this proclamation through fraud, willful misrepresentation of a material fact, or illegal entry shall be a priority for removal by the Department of Homeland Security.

(c) Nothing in this proclamation shall be construed to limit the ability of an individual to seek asylum, refugee status, withholding of removal, or protection under the Convention Against Torture and Other Cruel, Inhuman or Degrading Treatment or Punishment, consistent with the laws of the United States.

Sec. 5. Additional Measures. (a) The Secretary of Health and Human Services, through the Director of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, shall, as necessary, provide guidance to the Secretary of State and the Secretary of Homeland Security for implementing measures that could reduce the risk that aliens seeking admission or entry to the United States may introduce, transmit, or spread SARS-CoV-2 within the United States.

(b) The Secretary of Labor shall, in consultation with the Secretary of Homeland Security, as soon as practicable, and consistent with applicable law, consider promulgating regulations or take other appropriate action to ensure that the presence in the United States of aliens who have been admitted or otherwise provided a benefit, or who are seeking admission or a benefit, pursuant to an EB-2 or EB-3 immigrant visa or an H-1B nonimmigrant visa does not disadvantage United States workers in violation of section 212(a)(5)(A) or (n)(1) of the INA (8 U.S.C. 1182(a)(5)(A) or (n)(1)). The Secretary of Labor shall also undertake, as appropriate, investigations pursuant to section 212(n)(2)(G)(i) of the INA (8 U.S.C. 1182(n)(2)(G)(i)).

(c) The Secretary of Homeland Security shall:

(i) take appropriate action, consistent with applicable law, in coordination with the Secretary of State, to provide that an alien should not be eligible to apply for a visa or for admission or entry into the United States or other benefit until such alien has been registered with biographical and biometric information, including but not limited to photographs, signatures, and fingerprints;

(ii) take appropriate and necessary steps, consistent with applicable law, to prevent certain aliens who have final orders of removal; who are inadmissible or deportable from the United States; or who have been arrested for, charged with, or convicted of a criminal offense in the United States, from obtaining eligibility to work in the United States; and

(iii) as soon as practicable, and consistent with applicable law, consider promulgating regulations or take other appropriate action regarding the efficient allocation of visas pursuant to section 214(g)(3) of the INA (8 U.S.C. 1184(g)(3)) and ensuring that the presence in the United States of H-1B nonimmigrants does not disadvantage United States workers.

Sec. 6. Termination. This proclamation shall expire on December 31, 2020, and may be continued as necessary. Within 30 days of the effective date of this proclamation and every 60 days thereafter while this proclamation is in effect, the Secretary of Homeland Security shall, in consultation with the Secretary of State and the Secretary of Labor, recommend any modifications as may be necessary.

Sec. 7. Effective Date. Except as provided in section 1 of this proclamation, this proclamation is effective at 12:01 a.m. eastern daylight time on June 24, 2020.

Sec. 8. Severability. It is the policy of the United States to enforce this proclamation to the maximum extent possible to advance the interests of the United States. Accordingly:

(a) if any provision of this proclamation, or the application of any provision to any person or circumstance, is held to be invalid, the remainder of this proclamation and the application of its provisions to any other persons or circumstances shall not be affected thereby; and

(b) if any provision of this proclamation, or the application of any provision to any person or circumstance, is held to be invalid because of the lack of certain procedural requirements, the relevant executive branch officials shall implement those procedural requirements to conform with existing law and with any applicable court orders.

Sec. 9. General Provisions. (a) Nothing in this proclamation shall be construed to impair or otherwise affect:

(i) the authority granted by law to an executive department or agency, or the head thereof; or

(ii) the functions of the Director of the Office of Management and Budget relating to budgetary, administrative, or legislative proposals.

(b) This proclamation shall be implemented consistent with applicable law and subject to the availability of appropriations.

(c) This proclamation is not intended to, and does not, create any right or benefit, substantive or procedural, enforceable at law or in equity by any party against the United States, its departments, agencies, or entities, its officers, employees, or agents, or any other person.

IN WITNESS WHEREOF, I have hereunto set my hand this twenty-second day of June, in the year of our Lord two thousand twenty, and of the Independence of the United States of America the two hundred and forty-fourth.

DONALD J. TRUMP

75 Comments

  1. Here Apple is the richest company on the planet along with their buddies, trying to save a dime at American workers expense, the legal costs alone would probably hire a number of Americans to good jobs…

    1. I realize that this will be a stretch for you, but you might want to consider the possibility that the most qualified applicant for a given position might not be American (or white, male, or straight). Foreign workers are not necessarily cheap; in most cases we are talking professionals from developed countries, not coolies. Salary scales in Europe and some Asia-Pacific countries are comparable to the US, so there is no reason to hire someone who is less qualified. If you work in a business with two or more locations, how would you like it if the government said you can’t transfer employees between them?

      1. And this might be a stretch for you:
        Not all Americans are straight white males.
        Nor are they racist as you imply.

        Your knee-jerk implication that a few needs of a huge corporation outweighs the goods of the nation that helped it are insulting.

        How about THIS stretch for you….if the market needs more engineers trained, why don’t we begin to teach kids to do that like India and other countries do. If they are in such need, their value will go up and that void will be filled as more get into that field rather than being led into a “dream” occupation like more lawyers…

        1. Agreed that it would be great that the US train kids for these jobs. Are you willing to spend money (i.e. taxes) on this because that is what is needed?
          In the meantime the US needs skilled workers to support business growth. In the Biotech industry that I am in we have a very hard time to fill positions and it has sometimes taken 6 months to find the right candidate. When those position are finally filled, it makes a huge difference in being able to meet goals and grow the business.

          I’m fine with people saying hire US first but we need qualified people and a lot of the time the home grown resource is not there.

          1. “Are you willing to spend money (i.e. taxes) on this because that is what is needed?”

            Absolutely not! School taxes in the USA are close to twice as much as the nearest G8 nation, the return is lowest test scores, and school teachers can’t use Big Tax Money to properly educate their students?

            Further, instead of always knee jerk saddling the average taxpayer more financial burden, I don’t read you are asking the richest company of all time to chip in and set up an education fund. Why is that?

            “I’m fine with people saying hire US first but we need qualified people and a lot of the time the home grown resource is not there.”

            After all the exorbitant USA taxpayer school money is spent in the USA, schools can’t educate and Apple can’t find homegrown employees. Why is that?…

            1. Because we have resisted the socialists like you that want to impose burdens on private business that are properly government obligations. What’s next? Demanding that Apple should pay all the firefighters in Cupertino and Austin because they can afford it? Making them provide free computers to the private schools that you seem to be suggesting should replace the free public education that most state constitutions provide as an essential right to every resident?

              You and your fellow travelers have been calling Tim Cook all kinds of names because he supports using corporate resources to promote diversity. Now you want the government to expropriate corporate resources to educate everybody. Consistency?

            2. The answer is simple. The US education system produces young adults that have a decent general knowledge of many subjects. The system exposes students to a wide variety of fields for future development, and it tries to teach them to be lifelong learners in careers that interest them.

              But it also promotes independent thought and creativity. Then the US education system demands that before students pursue the next level of education critical to being a productive worker in that chosen field, the student must take out tens of thousands of dollars in loans or have rich daddy pay for college. When students pursue what they truly love to do with creativity, they turn out to be very bad at acting like mindless worker drones.

              Apple more than most US corporations depends on foreign worker drones.

              Apple also has an active fanboy club that goes bezerk if independent thinkers point out the rampant corporate bureaucracy and hypocrisy that Apple now represents. Apple isn’t anything like the company Jobs and Woz started. Devotion to excellence and design leadership come far, far behind Cookie’s profiteering and whitewashing.

              Apple will do whatever they have to to separate you from a dollar. Outsourcing manufacturing and importing cheap labor for other company functions is normal corporate behavior, and have been for 40+ years. Thanks Nixon!

            3. “Because we have resisted the socialists like you”

              Yes, I am a total socialist TxUseless! 🙄

              But as usual you deflected with off topic liberal rants and politics and can’t go toe to toe with specific points in my post.

              Grow up and stop wasting our time…

          2. And that’s a shame but it’s also a given outcome when Big Teacher has become more concerned about union positions than teaching kids (in way too many districts)

            I have a few suggestions-
            Take power away from teachers, no more unions.
            Keep their pay high and classrooms small
            Create a better voucher system (impossible with NEA and unions)
            Allow better tax advantages for low-middle income parents for private schooling

            When you talk to you foreign colleagues, do they ever tell how surprised they are at how bad the schools are here, how undisciplined the students are and uninvolved most parents are? Not just in school functions, not in just making sure their kids do assignments, but uninvolved with the structure of their lives, what they watch, listen to, eat, how much they sleep, their responsibilities around the house??

            I’m pretty sure any Indian would tell you how much they demand of their kids, as would anyone from one of the ‘civilized’ countries of the Middle East and Asia. The core of their existence is not work or social life, it is the family. It’s not about being the most popular, or having the most popular viewpoint, it is about discussing topics, even if heated, to learn among family and friends different viewpoints.

            This outlook on life has all but been destroyed in America. There is no alternative viewpoints allowed on college campuses from students who were raised with an iPad in one hand and a TV remote in another instead of a baseball glove or a baton, a piano or a drumstick, a book or a Bible.

            And on that note you will also see something your fellow workers from Asia, India, and the Middle East all have in common with each other and is another aspect of family life that has all but been outlawed in America and that is religion. Not so much how each person worships or how strict the country is on decency, but how those areas (with many different religions beside Christianity) respect social decency. We’ve lost that here.

            I love what Apple has done for learning and seeing the world in your hand. I said several years ago they would be known in centuries to come for many things but mainly the iPhone, because it is that revolutionary. At the same time, when my younger grandkids come to visit, I tell their parent to keep the iPads and iPhones with them so we can do more talking at depth and focus on other things beyond the three feet to a screen.

            1. I’m amused how you say the family is so important in China what with religion and family values…..This from a Country who transports their citizens to a compound where they FARM everything from their HAIR to their Organs…. and then burn what’s left…..What s wonderful country China is!

            2. Tower tone, we’ll believe your “Big Teacher” bullshit when you report to us the average salary of teachers in your local school district.

              If the pay is so great and the work so easy and the benefits so generous, why aren’t you a teacher?

              I think we all know the answer: because you’re not remotely qualified. You cannot tell fact from fiction.

            3. Larry M

              “the ‘civilized’ countries of the Middle East and Asia”

              I never said anything about China.
              Are you a racist who thinks all Asians are Chinese??

              Also odd you didn’t say anything about Saudi Arabia.
              Stay away from those temporal thermometers….

            4. Hh

              Did I ever say they were overpaid?
              No, I didn’t.

              Big Teacher is just what I said it was, the NEA and unions.
              Matter of fact I said the pay should stay up and the classroom size go down.

              But if you want to look at failure rates of inner cities and now many rural and suburban areas where too many teachers just push the kids on through without consequence because the Big Teacher guarantees them a job no matter how piss-poor the performance, then yes THOSE teachers are overpaid, no matter how little.

          1. I did not say that all Americans are straight white males, nor did I imply that all Americans are racists.

            I did mean to suggest that anyone who assumes that an American is inherently more qualified to do a job for Apple than a foreigner, just because he is American, is a xenophobe.

            Anyone who assumes that a man is inherently more qualified for a position than a woman is sexist.

            Anyone who assumes that a straight person is inherently more qualified than a gay, lesbian, bisexual, or transsexual person is homophobic.

            Anyone who assumes that a white person is inherently more qualified than a person of color is a racist.

            Anyone who assumes that affirmative action and diversity programs are intended to force the hiring of inherently unqualified foreign, female, LGBT+, and Black applicants over applicants who simply must be more qualified because they are American, male, straight, and White is all of the above.

            This Trump Executive Order is affirmative action to force the hiring of less qualified applicants simply because they are Americans. If that does not violate the Fourteenth Amendment prohibition on government discrimination based on race, color, religion, or national origin, it certainly violates the spirit of the Constitution.

            1. Once again you treat reality like your own personal Stretch Armstrong to pull in any direction then wrap his arms around the neck and tie them like noose.

              Oh, snap!!….you’ve gone too far.

              The world can see, TxEr.
              Don’t take them for fools.

            2. TxUser – I think you’ve brought in to the false narrative that if you want legalized immigration policies, you must be racist.

              Unfortunately, you’re not alone. You’re being bombarded with the liberal media that’s really pushing one side of the argument falsely, so I don’t fault you.

              Bringing up the sexist, homophobic, racist is a red herring.

              This discussion is about having American jobs go to American’s (Black, Brown, White, etc..) first.
              It has nothing to do with that person not being qualified.

              I’m amazed how Liberals are not open to taking care of American’s first, what’s wrong with that POV?

              When you’re traveling on a plane with a child, what are you instructed to do in case of an emergency? Put the mask on first before you put it on your child.

              The same could be said, before you try to help the world, you need to take care of those in your country first.

              If the people in the country (America) all do well, there’s more assistance that can be given outside the country.

              Also, your argument that enough monies are in taxes to teach the American students, we shouldn’t make the companies pay is another false argument.

              Back in the 50’s and 60’s there was internships- in 2020 I’m sure the companies that claim they don’t have a pool to draw from could “partner” with local school systems to get the graduates they want and need.
              BTW, this would be a business deduction for the companies – so it’s not money lost.

              You say you’re from Texas, but I have a feeling you’re a transplant from another state, California maybe?

              Ok, that was rude.
              Sorry, but I couldn’t help myself.

        1. I don’t think anyone truly disagrees that our immigration system needs fixing. How we do something is often as important as what we’re doing.

          And dialogue has been broken before Trump, and is near impossible now.

      2. “…I realize that this will be a stretch for you, but you might want to consider the possibility that the most qualified applicant for a given position might not be American (or white, male, or straight)…”

        Since when did “most qualified” matter to you? I thought it was all about vaginas and melanin.

      3. So the most qualified people may not be American—and “most qualified” is important— but a VP pick that must be black and a woman instead of qualified is OK with you

        Fucking stupid libturds

          1. By definition, any VP that is picked because of sex and race IS UNQUALIFIED, because the other sex and races were disqualified. IT IS RACIST and SEXIST.

            Only a libturd would try to make excuses for this being acceptable.

            Imagine the outrage by the libturds if Trump limited his choice based on race and sex !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

            Fucking stupid libturds

            1. He did limit his choice based on race and sex. Do you honestly think Pence would have received the nod if he weren’t a white male Evangelical? Those are the core groups that Trump needed to turn out if he was to be elected.

            2. Amen, HAL. TxUseless is too partisan to admit he made a mistake. That special brand of aloof self righteous liberal arrogance is right in line with the rest of his ilk, KingMe topping the list…

    2. You are absolutely correct and appreciate your honesty, @Macinfo.

      Cook is a MASTER of cheap labor here in the USA and abroad pumping profits making Apple the richest company in history.

      Tim is a CEO double standard disgrace and the board needs to grow a pair and remove the número uno SJW HYPOCRITE of all time.

      Creative genius Scott Forstall would take Apple higher and faster and dump this political advocacy garbage beancounter. Sorry Tim, you have a good heart it’s not personal.

      Apple owner since my Lisa…👍🏻

  2. Since well before the 2016 election night rapture, I’ve been explaining Mr. Trump’s position and why the likes of Tim Cook supported his crooked, perennial failure of an opponent:

    For Silicon Valley and Apple’s Tim Cook, it’s all about H-1B visas and cheap labor.

    American companies and their shareholders, in general, want skilled labor as CHEAPLY as possible. That’s a main reason why Tim Cook, Apple and other tech firms backed the loser Clinton – they wanted unlimited H-1Bs to continue, so they can pay Ajeet from India half what they’d have to pay Tom from Tulsa who can’t find a job after graduating from college and has to live in his parents basement because Apple got Ajeet from India to do it on the CHEAP.

    1. Most shareholders (regular Americans) don’t want their country eaten out from under them. It’s the soulless, nationless, globalist vultures running the hedge funds and corporations that are willing to slit the throats of the middle-class to pad the bottom line. I’d gladly watch my AAPL position halved to see an immigration moratorium (though we’d more likely see an American renaissance, skyrocketing wages and an economic boom like no other if that happened).

  3. Apple gross profit margin is 38 percent. Apple should have a little room in that 192 billion cash stock pile to pay a fair wage.

    If the issue is a lack of talent (which wouldn’t be surprising with USA public eduction) then that is one thing, but if like Disney they use foreigners for low wages then they suck!

    the reason we have a shortage in computer scientist.

          1. QAnon.
            Virus abracadabra. Or is it miracle?
            Trump censoring government scientist in climate change.
            Hydoxychloroquine
            Alien sperm, demon sleeping doctors.
            Bill Gates chipping people.
            Creationism in science class.
            And my personal favorite… Kenya!

  4. In America most (with brains) pursue lawyer, business, real estate. banking, hedge funds, and medical school, last in line science, engineering, math, computer programing, design (all disciplines), also last plumber, electrician, pipe fitter, industrial engineering. Its why Germany, Korea, China, Japan are ahead in many practical areas.

    And Trump college didn’t help the cause….

  5. KAMALA HARRIS Flashback:

    Kamala Harris said she believed women who accused Biden of inappropriate touching
    ‘I believe them, and I respect them being able to tell their story and having the courage to do it’

    Great choice for VP. Apparently its ok for a president be a molester if you want to be VP.

    Apparently putting “black” and “female” as requirements instead of qualifications is ok by the libturds!

    Watch all the stupid libturds rejoice now!!!!!!!

    1. Hai, if we are going to compare positions on immigration, all four of Sen. Harris’ grandparents could speak English as children. None of Pres. Trump’s could. The Senator’s parents were both graduate students when they entered the US at a time of full employment. The President’s mother was only trained to do housework and entered during the Great Depression.

      Mr. Trump is pursuing policies that would have excluded everyone on both sides of his family. He’s got his, so everybody else can suck rocks. It’s another example of the empathy he has applied to healthcare, the coronavirus, and everything else.

      1. I agree, so I am voting for a corrupt, molesting dementia patient.

        I don’t care how stupid he is and how bad the Dems want to destroy this country !!!!!!! I am doing this because I have shit for brains!

      2. Obviously, you missed Sean Hannity show on Fox tonight that totally eviscerated Harris for being a race baiter and hypocrite playing former sound bites that reflect REALITY, not Big Media lying SPIN.

        Obviously, you don’t want to talk about her past mistakes and racist statements. You simply ignore them and as a partisan activist, LYING HUNDREDS of times you are a Conservative Republican, well we all know is FAKE and not one of your ilk backed you. They know better.

        You have plenty of time to “suck on rocks”…

      3. Even her father knows she’s a self serving vacuous opportunistic liar. If Biden is guilty of half the things she said about him, she must have absolutely no character whatsoever to run with him.

        Then again these are Democrats. It’s all about that melanin and vagina!

    2. Hal…..add to the list, since Kamala graduated high school in Montreal (that is Canada for all you republicans…oh, and we are north of you BTW…as Bush somehow got confused about), other descriptors lin addition to black & female like….intelligent, kind, empathetic and class (she doesn’t lower herself by using words like libtards or all the childish kindergarten names you and your ilk like to use.
      As I mentioned elsewhere, after seeing all the polls CONSISTENTLY stating that your choice of leader is going down in flames….hahahahah fun to watch. I bet it will hurt you (and your ilk…I love using that word) when life returns to normal again. BTW…You can thank Canada for that. You are most welcome.

  6. Trump is playing election year games. During the 2016 election he strongly criticized H-1B visas; a few months after taking office, he raised the limit by 15K. Now he’s back in campaign mode.

    Not surprised at Apple’s position. For corporate America, patriotism ends when the parade is over.

    1. Right to work and anti union isn’t patriotism but half the country enjoy doing it, the battle was lost in the 1970’s….Next up all those white collar wannabe’s who thought they had a in with the boss.

      1. .. and how dose “right to work” & “anti union compare” with force labor and organ harvesting. How can the USA compete with cheap labor when the CCP subsidies their labor pool with human blood. People thank the CCP China has made great progress but the average wage is 8,300 GDP per captia

        USA average wage 59,928
        CCP China 8,612

        and that dose not include the value of forced labor, forced technology transfer. Bottom line CCP uses every trick they can to give their companies the upper hand and treats the average citizen like dogs … just check how they treat their dogs

        So its smart for the USA government to close the loop holes that hurt USA workers job prospects though the recovery. Consider the financial help and resources Apple has received from the USA. Think of all the top engineers at Apple that where educated Here.. God knows what opportunity that Apple has been given by the tax funded resources. The real question is why dose apple have to be forced the do the right thing ? Why wouldn’t apple feel a little loyalty to the country that help make them great while the we face difficult times.

        1. The Gentry CEO business/ government class isn’t doing anything except pulling the wool over your eyes, they do not care for you if you are working 9 to 5 (the only thing they have to offer you is a gig job).Save and invest while you can.

  7. read it …. actual sounds reasonable …. plus its temporary

    American workers compete against foreign nationals for jobs in every sector of our economy, including against millions of aliens who enter the United States to perform temporary work. Temporary workers are often accompanied by their spouses and children, many of whom also compete against American workers. Under ordinary circumstances, properly administered temporary worker programs can provide benefits to the economy. But under the extraordinary circumstances of the economic contraction resulting from the COVID-19 outbreak, certain nonimmigrant visa programs authorizing such employment pose an unusual threat to the employment of American workers.

    For example, between February and April of 2020, more than 17 million United States jobs were lost in industries in which employers are seeking to fill worker positions tied to H-2B nonimmigrant visas. During this same period, more than 20 million United States workers lost their jobs in key industries where employers are currently requesting H-1B and L workers to fill positions. Also, the May unemployment rate for young Americans, who compete with certain J nonimmigrant visa applicants, has been particularly high — 29.9 percent for 16 19 year olds, and 23.2 percent for the 20-24 year old group. The entry of additional workers through the H-1B, H-2B, J, and L nonimmigrant visa programs, therefore, presents a significant threat to employment opportunities for Americans affected by the extraordinary economic disruptions caused by the COVID-19 outbreak

  8. All for H-1B, H-2B, J, and L but only for people at the level of Wernher von Braun or Albert Einstein,
    I ‘m not for bring in rank and file keep the cost down designers, doctors or engineers.

    The program for Asylum in the United States is also run in the same way everyone is let in, not just the actual real people that need Asylum (ie..the Hong Kong newspaper guy who was recently jailed, he will need Asylum when he gets out glad to have him).

    1. Who gets to decide which individuals have more potential than others? Cheeto’s immigrant grandparents would be rejectable under such a policy, nevertheless the Faux Nooze addicts now worship the fool.

      1. If you let in those in that are truly worthy the number would be 2 or 3 percent, most H1B or asylum seekers are economic and shouldn’t be let in, mister Lai from Hong Kong however should be let in, the rest no.

        The current system is broken because the 1% (the decision makers) want it that way.

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