“Think about it,” Evans writes. “Apple’s already selling millions of games each month via the App Store, where games are the biggest-selling category.”
Evans writes, “In time it’s likely we’ll see some impact from this as some games migrate from iOS to the Mac via Apple’s Mac App Store. Apple will become a pre-eminent gaming company.”
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Whoohoo. Won at my favorite game.
I don’t know about that. I have a PS3, and I like having a controller, and I love looking at a 58″ screen…
Um, NOT! Embedded GL on a portable is never going to compete nor be equipped with the hundreds of parallel GPU cores high-end games require.
Love my Mac but I do not believe it will ever be a good gaming platform. My early 2009 Mac Pro still freezes (bogs way down for up to ten minutes at a time) on games with heavy graphics. Apple has to pay way more attention to graphics and sound if they want to be big in games.
@ NeverFade–
I think you’re underestimating AirPlay.
You will still have a controller. It will be your iOS device.
Apple TV will beam it to your 58″ screen.
here you go again! geez. Apple can’t take over gaming market. you mean portable game? we don’t know yet. if you mean gaming market, you totally misread what’s going on in this market. I think you have no idea, or no clue on this business. Apple? it can’t. gaming market is different. geez.
Even my Mac doesn’t have enough power in the right places to match a PS3.
@Woody
I’d agree Apple doesn’t do a good enough job with drivers for games, but it sounds like theres something else going on with your particular setups if the performance is that bad.
Uhm. No. I truly think it will never replace a console.
@Macromancer
It’s true, my 2010 17″MBP can’t even play Starcraft II maxed out.. I have to set it to low/medium..
“Um, NOT! Embedded GL on a portable is never going to compete nor be equipped with the hundreds of parallel GPU cores high-end games require.”
Doesn’t really matter.. look what Epic did with the Citadel game.. that’s on a phone.. when the Mac App Store comes out, there’s gonna be a section there for Games… and most people are gonna go there and look for interesting looking $5 games.. and if there are fun games, they will sell.
to be honest, the whole ‘immersive reality’ like W.O.W is a huge turnoff for normal people. But there are a few great RPGs i’m looking for.. if Square Enix starts putting out 3D FF games on teh Mac for $19.99 or $29.99.. you’re insane if you think those won’t sell… I got my credit card right here
I think people are seriously underestimating the huge change we’re gonna see with the Mac app store. I can’t wait.
“Apple will become a pre-eminent gaming company.”
If you would have posted this sentence on any Mac website in 2005, you would have been laughed right off it.
@mike,
“I think people are seriously underestimating the huge change we’re gonna see with the Mac app store. I can’t wait.”
Someone underestimating a move that Steve Jobs is making?
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Never!
A single core integrated graphics iPad cannot match the quality of a 9 core Cell processor in 3D graphics and game quality.
A iPad can’t match the quality of the 3 PowerG5 processors in a X-Box.
The iPad has a netbook level processor to keep the heat down, but even then it can overheat and go to sleep until it’s cool enough to use again.
The XBox and the PS3 blow out heat from their powerful processors like a space heater.
Really MDN, you do yourself a disservice and insult Mac users intelligence posting such a article/link on your site.
People think about it, Apple TV????
I’d bet my car on it and I use to make games for a living. Publishers will be out of business and direct selling/renting will be the norm.
The true Trojan horse.
This is a stupid concept. portable gaming? Maybe. Console gaming no way. PS is light years ahead of anything on the iphone and dont even talk about Citidel. That demo has nothing in it to hong frame rates. In addition, blow that up on my 50″ lcd and it will look like crap. TO be honest, AppleTV is prolly having a hard time competing in the internet tv space given the ps3 does everything the appletv does.
I loves me some Apple products, but until they start building actual physical controllers with buttons and thumbsticks they’re not even trying to break into the serious gaming market.
@Joe
I can agree with some of what you say, I use to be in the business but I can tell you it’s all about sales. Yeah, dedicated consoles will be the powerhouse’s but how much easier is it to sell a $99 dollar console then a $300 dollar one? How many $60 dollar games can you sell compared to $1 or $3 dollar game?
In the business it’s about sales and profit. When I use to make console games we made 3% to 6% for each game. When you cut out the publisher (EA) and you can take 70%, I can sell the game for $3 bucks and make the same amount as you can selling a $60 dollar game. This is a no-brainer, it’s basic math and business.
The “masses” will give a crap less about the differences when you have people throwing chump change for cheap games. Those game makers will sell millions compared to a couple hundred thousand $60 games and make more.
Yes, there will always be the big Halo type’s for the serious gamers but for the masses, the cheap games will rule and smart companies will go with the money.
I know if I was still in the gaming business it wouldn’t even be a hard decision, I’ll go where the money is. Oh, one last thing. The last (console) game I made, we spent over a million dollars advertising in game mags and bribing rack-jobbers to get on shelfs. Then we had to wine and dine review writers to get a decent reviews. Guess what, don’t have to do that when Apple does it for free. Right there I’m a million+ ahead.
So yeah, you have a point but it’s from the “players” perspective, not the developers.
@iGads
I agree with you! More people at all age level will buy/play mobile games. And the APP Store thru iTunes with stats and payments for the developer is a no brainer!!!!!!
Enterprise and Games are two market areas Apple needed to break open to go towards a $100 Billion per year Revenue by 2013
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We don’t own an XBox, PlayStation or Wii but do have two iPhones, two iPads and a 2010 Mac mini with 8GB of memory connected to a 58-inch Panasonic plasma.
We regularly use the Mobile Mouse and Remote Apps on the iPhone to control the computer and stereo and have been playing our first iPhone gMe that’s been migrated to the Mac. Pinball HD runs on the Mac but is controlled by a companion App that tutns the iPhone into a wireless controller. Works great.
I see no reason to purchase an incompatible console. I’ll just evolve this system as Apple gaming grows. THIS is precisely how Apple will gradually become a gaming company.
Not only has Jobs lost his mind, but it’s the mistake of all mistakes to pre-load Vista (of any version) onto a Mac, and then make OS X optional. While Vista may support Mac hardware, there’s some things that should be left alone. Do we really need Gates and Balmer laughing any harder on the way to the bank?
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Yeah good luck playing COD on a iphone or iPad…
Casual gaming is gonna grow big time, not so much more serious gaming, at least for the next 5 years.
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Even my Mac doesn’t have enough power in the right places to match a PS3.
I had to laugh at this complete nonsense.
Which right places? GPU? PS3 uses a crippled Nvidia 7800 GT from years ago. CPU? The Cell is equivalent to a low mid range G4 PowerPC chip with extra AltiVec (effectively what its SPE are). Memory? PS3 is legendarily bad with it’s memory handling, one’s iOS devices blow it away let alone a Mac.
Optical disc format? Blu-ray support … Darn it. If that’s the sole criteria then yes PS3 has something, otherwise you’re deluded.
A single core integrated graphics iPad cannot match the quality of a 9 core Cell processor in 3D graphics and game quality
Sorry to rain on your PS3 fainboi parade but you should check your facts.
PS3 is has a Cell processor at it’s heart, Sony’s PR and marketing machine might say it’s a super computer on a chip but in reality it has: 1 CPU core and 6 SPE
1 CPU core is a PowerPC chip that can run 2 threads, when you could run Linux it was at same speed as an old low/mid-range G4 Mac.
6 SPE out of 8 in design, 1 not used to increase production yields and 1 used by OS, only 6 for games. SPE are vector processors and cannot run general purpose computer code.
As for graphics, it’s GPU is out the ark and was an off-the-shelf part from Nvidia.
There are hardly any PS3 games that even render at 720p, most are much lower res and scaled up moreover not even at 30fps — compare this to Epic’s Citadel demo on iPad that renders 1024×768 at 60fps.
It was a matter of time for this to happen!!
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My biggest fear is that when this happens, the Android platform will get the vast majority of games because of their increasing market share. It looks to me like Windows vs Mac again.
In time I guess. In the near future not for high end games. Osx is really hurting a a gaming platform still. Bad drivers and he’ll osx doesn’t even run open gl above what version 2.5?
To the comment about normal people who don’t play wow well 12 million would say otherwise. The mmo market isn’t anything to laugh at. It’s to bad more companies won’t bring native clients to osx like blizzard.
The console market and pc market will not feel the heat from an iPad anytime soon IMO. First apple needs a real controller of some sort. Touch screen controls are lacking in every way when you play a serious game that will hold your attention for a long time.
This article is a straw man and you’re all arguing something that can’t be won.
The target audience of this article is not the gaming culture, it’s written for senior IT leaders in enterprise, many of whom already think Apple makes toys and now Apple’s devices are becoming trojan horses to smuggle time-wasting games into the company? We’ll soon see about that!
Yeah, but can the iPad play games in 3D without dorky glasses?
“Apple is taking over the games market.” Really? From whom? By my read there are a couple of different “games markets” controlled by different groups. And, no surprise, Apple isn’t in control anywhere. Not saying the Mac isn’t good enough to play. The PCs that dominate the big games are targeted to that use and cost less than a Mac aimed at that market would. Though the Mac would still be able to do so many things better than the superior game system would. The consoles that dominate their own market are likewise targeted and, unlike the iOS devices, don’t do much else with any confidence.
Leaving “casual games”, mostly. Solitaire Till Dawn, for example. Or Sudoku. Even WoW is leaving many Macs behind – my wife’s dual-core iMac, with a low-end graphics card, can’t really keep up. My quad-core Mac Pro is still sufficient, but there’s an upgrade coming next month that may change that.
Let’s face it … the Mac – including the iOS family – can play most of the games out there. But, others can play more or provide a better experience in the process. If you are a hard core Gamer, you likely will not be satisfied with what a Mac has to offer. If you just like to spend a few hours a day, at work (or school) or after, whiling away the time, any of them will do – and the one that’s already on your desk is a great option.
I love my iPad, but no way can it replace my console and big screen TV.
Just like the iPad is tapping into an entirely new computing market, Apple games, combined with Airplay, will tap into an entirely new gaming market. Console geeks need not apply. Wii already proved that you don’t have to have the best graphics or most powerful processors to win in the gaming segment.
An iPod touch or iPhone could easily be used as a Wii-style controller, for example.
And once again, Apple’s cheap, easy, yet powerful SDK, and iTunes delivery system will entice another 100K developers into the fray both big and small. MS, Sony and Ninentendo have totally dropped the ball by not streamlining their entire convoluted, expensive gaming development/delivery/payment process. It will be their undoing.
I’m not saying that X-box or PSP will go away, just like Office and Win7 will not go away. But all the new growth will be in Apple’s walled garden of games. And BTW, Apple’s walled garden looks like a luxury resort compared to the penitentiary of the competition’s limitations, rules and expenses.
1 CPU core is a PowerPC chip that can run 2 threads, when you could run Linux it was at same speed as an old low/mid-range G4 Mac.
Right, the Cell is a dedicated game processor and Linux isn’t allowed access the GPU.
Can a iPad’s A4 render 720p ray tracing at 13fps like a Cell can?
No, I rest my case.
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Wow. Who would have thought that is where all the dinosaurs would be? Buttons? Joy sticks? Consoles? Think USB, keyboard, mouse. Just because you love them does not mean they are not going to die.
Perhaps it would help to think less about the redundant technology (technology is always transient) and more about the money (which isn’t). Who makes money making games and how? Ask EA where they are putting their efforts. Ask THQ. Ask the thousands of new young designers.
Also, when John Carmack is showing off RAGE on a previous generation iphone and Unreal is porting their latest SDK to iOS, it is very difficult to argue that iDevices won’t have hardcore, immersive games.
BS. When iPads become as powerful as XBoxes, there will be next gen Xboxes that will blow these new iPads out of the water. Sorry but its true.
I will concede that the Wii proved game consoles don’t need to be the most powerful to be successful and still there is potential via Apple TV and airplay to put iPad games on HDTVs very soon. That could be interesting. Not an Xbox but interesting.
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