Valich reports, “We spoke with representatives from Microsoft, Lenovo, Qualcomm, TI, Nokia, nVidia, HTC and many more and they all had just one message – Windows Mobile 7 is delayed until 2011.
Full article here.
MacDailyNews Take: If true, Microsoft might as well delay it until 3011. It’s already way too little and way too late.
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Or on time if it was following the timeframe of MS OS Widows 7… was that not delayed awhile also. Looks like everything got pushed back! MS would be smart to not release any target date until product is ready for release…
If anything this proves that a Harvard Education does not necessarily equate to money well spent!
Not that I care.. But honestly, I just don’t get it..
If this is true, how can something like a mobile OS be delayed for more than 12 months?
I mean this is Microsoft, one of the largest companies and with just about more resources than any other company in the world.. Would it really be that difficult to make something like this a priority and get enough engineers as it takes to get this out in the next 6 months or so??
@ MikeK
have you *seen* Vista? I’m sure MS doesn’t lack for smart people but those aren’t the people in charge: salesmen are in charge. Marketing suits are in charge. People that think success is one well placed graphic away, as opposed to making products that are actually worth buying.
I wouldn’t be surprised – I have a feeling Microsoft’s internal battle between the Zune, WinMo, Danger and “Pink” factions continues to be ugly and self-defeating.
If true, Microsoft will never catch up the competition
They’re delaying it so they have time to study and copy iPhone OS 4.0.
They have to be able to know which way technology is heading somehow.
Rushing a product doesn’t guarentee perfection or a immediate hit. Just look at the iPhone throughout it’s 4 years and nothing significant different have made except for the minor changes under the hood. As for Windows Mobile 7 I’m guessing Microsoft is betting it in becoming a huge success because they are serious and want to make it right just as they have done with Windows 7. Go Microsoft and Windows Phone rules!
http://www.bing.com When it comes to decisions that matter, Bing & Decide
Most likely MS management is currently shopping for a replacement mobile OS, not employing competent engineers to create a new one.
Actually, that might not be a completely bad thing. It would muzzle all the crazy kids who think that Apple should waste its money on Palm.
I like our strategy, I like it a lot! (WTF?)
bing is only good for porn. Windows Mobile 7, give up. You are becoming a joke. And love live Ballmer.
A Microsoft OS delayed? Where have I heard this before?
@ I’m a PC
Glad to see you got the viruses cleared off your PC and you can post here again. Just relax, cause the blue screen of death will return to put you to sleep.
But you forget the MS way.
Set a date and advertise and gloat.
Push the date out. early.
Then deliver just slightly later than your original date and..
Declare a great success for delivering early.
MS,,,, ain’t life great.??
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Just a thought,
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@I’m a PC:
You are also an idiot. What? Are you auditioning for ZuneTang’s job?
First of all, the iPhone first became available in June 2007. It has not been on the market for anywhere close to four years. Second, the iPhone has changed relatively little because its design was so advanced and well-implemented from the beginning. Two and a half years later, no competitor has even managed to come up with a good imitation of the iPhone, much less an improvement on Apple’s design.
I have to agree with Gabriel here. MS seems to have a completely incoherent mobile OS strategy, which is completely incoherent with X-Box and it’s Windows 7 strategy. Instead of developing one OS for multiple devices, they simply seem to be going in 6 directions at once.
MSFT could acquire Palm and have a modern mobile OS today, that is more advanced than WinMO 7 will be in 2012.
Really, who cares? WinMo is never going to e a significant player in the mobile OS space.
“I mean this is Microsoft, one of the largest companies and with just about more resources than any other company in the world.. Would it really be that difficult to make something like this a priority and get enough engineers as it takes to get this out in the next 6 months or so??”
MSFT is incapable of thinking small guerilla development teams MSFT’s DNA is that everything must be on a grand scale.
What they should do in send 25 engineers with a strong manager to Helena, MT for a year. There should no way for Redmond to contact this group. This current design spec should be thrown out. This engineering group should be allowed to design WinMo7 based on the capabilities of EXISTING competitors (iPhone and Pre). I guarantee you that quarantining them (from sales guy input) in this manner will result in faster and much better results.
@I’m a PC:
Both the Android people and the WinMo people constantly write/say/blog about how the iPhone has not changed since its introduction. As an iPhone developer, I know that there were significant improvements and changes when version 3.0 of the iPhone OS came out. Apple’s magic is in how seamlessly this update was injected into the system with minimal problems.
@MikeK
There is an old saying in computer programming: “Adding people to a late project makes it later” (Brooks, The Mythical Man-Month). Ballmer never got the memo: he throws as many people on it as possible then wonders why everyone spends more time reporting to their PMs rather than getting the job done.
I used to feel sorry for the ‘softies, but then I realized that they volunteered for that madness.
any surprises here?
Wow and to think that I was waiting for it…… NOT. By the time MS has something to …. cough…. compete, everyone will be one the next major upgrade.
@I’m a PC
You lose all credibility simply for bad math. lol
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4 years? 10 – 7 = 4 Sounds like Windows math.
I like Microsoft’s stratergy, I like it a lot.
I’m an Apple shareholder
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@I’m a PC
You have our pity.
Zune Tang? Where are you? Please put our worried hearts at ease about this terrible news!
The other reason HTC would greatly benefit from owning Palm.
@I’m a PC,
Like ZuneTang’s, your points are moronic. Unlike ZuneTang however, your writing is neither parody nor funny.
@dd
@I’m a PC
You lose all credibility simply for bad math. lol
4 years? 10 – 7 = 4 Sounds like Windows math.
It was a rounding error.
Since Windows Mobile is not going to be part of Microsoft’s future anyways, and it’s not a major part of Microsoft’s present either, I’d say this is non-news.
“I like our strategy. I like it a lot”.
Of course, to like something, that something must exist in the first place.
@MikeK
Developing software is not like building a pyramid. If you need to have your pyramid finished faster, you just place more slaves in to the project. With software is not the same thing. By the time one engineer gets aquatinted with the code, it would kill his productivity in adding others to get confortable with it. Something as complex as a mobile OS, where every part needs to be super optimized for speed and energy consumption, it just makes matters a lot more complex. Now if MS had a good foundation to start with, it would be a deferent story. But basically, they never had said foundation.
Think about this last thing, they had 10 years or more head start on Apple, and now they are behind 3 to 5 years.
Can’t believe they found that many Windows handset vendors to ask!
@ Mac-nugget: Think about this last thing, they had 10 years or more head start on Apple, and now they are behind 3 to 5 years.
Egad… that’s quite astonishing when you put it that way.
MDN take: Spot on! =)
Man, I just read that Boy Genius review of Android today where he savaged it totally. Now Windoze Mobile 7 won’t be out until 2011, 3011, WTF ever, IF ever.
Somewhere in Apple’s software labs somebody’s saying, “Damn, is it THAT hard?” Apparently it IS if you’re not Apple, and you’re not led by Stevie Wonder, er, Steve Jobs.
And now Apple’s gonna pimp-slap M$ back to Redmond with their own tablet idea in a couple of weeks. It occurs to me: Bill Gates was RIGHT about something! Tablets ARE the future, only APPLE’S gonna make ’em! And they’re gonna run OS X, NOT Windoze! “The Road Ahead” indeed.
Visionary leadership at its finest. More like slapstick leadership.
Peace.
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Olmecmystic
It doesn’t matter whether they release it or not. The competition has one focus and that is on Apple’s iPhone. The world rest their hands on Apple. As Apple innovates and leads the industry, the competition copies.
Apple iPhone 3GS: The fastest and the most powerful iPhone yet.
Actually, Roz Ho, who heads the Pink project is an Apple fan, who is undermining WinMo7. As we all know, once Mac, never back, and Roz used to run the Mac Business Unit at MS.
And, regardless of why WM7 is late, the fact is, what mfr wants it? Motorola? That horse left the barn. Palm? They went their own way. Samsung? They are going with their own Linux variant, Bada. Blackberry? No. Apple? No. HTC? They seem to have switched allegiances to Android. LG? Of all the top cellphone mfrs, only LG is left holding out any hope for WM7, and that’s only because at last year’s CES, they announced that they had signed a deal. The rumor is that MS is going to pay them. In other words, MS doesn’t make any money on their mobile OS.
MS’s only hope to make any money in mobile is to get share in mobile search, but they are paying Verizon $500M to put Bing on their cellphones. How exactly is MS going to make money in the post-PC world when they pay to get their software on other people’s hardware?
I forgot Nokia. MS struck a deal with Nokia to load MS’s mobile business suite on Symbian by 2011 or 12. Woohoo! People are getting so excited about that.
You idiots believe everything that is pushed in front of your face? Interesting noone else is quoting this “article” And now your wasting your time arguing over something that is baseless. jesus.
@ KenC
Interesting to have it listed out like that, all the situations where Microsoft is paying others to peddle their software – quite the stark reversal of fortunes compared to the PC market! I wonder how much longer can they afford to keep doing that.
@ a voice of reason (more like a voice of pms)
The article title *is* prefixed with “rumor”, and thankfully we don’t need your permission to discuss such things.
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“Egad… that’s quite astonishing when you put it that way.”
Not really…I mean, if the original Macintosh was the industry game changer and established Apple as the ostensible leader in the computing experience, why is it that 20+ years on Apple still holds a market share in the single digits? That’s what’s astonishing.