“Apple detailed what it wants out of Judge William Alsup’s summary judgement in its case against Psystar for building and selling Mac clones without authorization: A permanent injunction blocking the PC maker from selling computers with any version of Mac OS X, and from distributing any products that help other people install Mac OS X on PC,” Jeff Gamet reports for The Mac Observer.
“Apple is specifically asking the court to prohibit Psystar from directly or contributing to the infringement of Apple’s copyrights for Mac OS X, circumventing the protections measures in Mac OS X, possessing any devices that can circumvent the operating system’s protection measures, and selling any devices or components that can aid in the process of circumventing the protection measures,” Gamet reports.
“In other words, Apple is asking the court to block Psystar from hacking all versions of Mac OS X, and from building and selling its Rebel EFI product, too,” Gamet reports. “Rebel EFI lets users install Mac OS X on any PC.”
Read more in the full article here.
Little history lesson and why everyone should SHUT UP about computer prices these days.
Back in 1987:
Mac SE (all in one Mac for average user) $2898.
IBM PS/2 Model 25 (all in one PC for the average user) $2484.
Average car price $12,922.
2008:
Average car price $22,651.
If the price increase for cars was applied to computers:
iMac (average model) could would be $5,071.
Dell- all in one could be $4,347.
So two things we want and need but vastly different price trends. Computers are one of the few items that ignore inflation and constantly get cheaper in price year over year. Some years the price may stay the same but specs usually get better.
So be happy the iMac is below $2,000. It’s a steal.
Right now a Refurbished iMac 20-inch 2.66GHz Intel Core 2 Duo is $850.
In my country, whenever a business get itself in too much hot water they just change the name. All previous legal processes and debts are accumulated by the previous company and they just go continue with impunity.
After Apple wins, what could stop the Pedrazas to create a new company named PPSystar or StarPsy or whatever and challenge Apple again ad infinitum? Or that they move to another country and countinue their business there or enable others to do so anywhere else?
These are slimy, crooked people who haven’t an ounce of shame or respect…
Oh and just for fun, the designer crowd in 1987 would buy a Mac II for $5,500.
@tt
Apple does not want you or your business. Carry your Walmart cheapskate ass elsewhere. You are the type that Apple actively discourages.
Apple doesnt want losers, period.
@tt.
Ebay has plenty of nice used Macs for sale within your price range. And for 9 out of 10 users, a newer PPC Mac running Leopard would be a completely sufficient option. I would love to get the latest MacBook, but my 1.2 ghz G4 iBook does everything I need quite well, and I plan to get a another year out of it at least. My desktop is a new Mini I got in the refurb store for 499 and I upgraded the hard drive and RAM myself in order to economize. It was easy.
It just kills me that people don’t understand that the price of a Mac is higher not because the hardware is special, but because the OS is special. That’s why OS X retails for so much less compared to Windows. The hundreds of thousands of man hours that go into designing, writing and updating OS X are underwritten by earnings from Apple hardware. What don’t you get about that?
Yes, you can build a box on your own cheaper, then hack it into running Mac OS X, but that’s no different than pirating your OS off of bit torrent instead of buying it. You’re stealing Apple’s intellectual property and justifying it because you can’t afford to pay for that intellectual property. You could choose a used Mac and get it honestly, but you also want the newest and fastest tech. Thus your true character is revealed: You’d rather steal the latest tech instead of compromising in favor of what you can afford. Grow up and grow so morals.
Sick ’em, Apple! Kill!
@tt….
Don’t cry. Got to craislist or eBay and find a used Mac. You can get some great deals on machines that a a couple of years old.
Folks like me and others around here, are very happy to sell our Macs to folks like you, as long as they end up in happy and appreciative homes!
@Think… Yeah.
In 1989 I bought a Mac IIcx with 4 MB RAM for $4200.
$1000 to add another 4 MB RAM for 8 MB total
$1000 to get a SuperMac 24-bit video card for 640 x 480
$800 for an Apple 13″ color monitor 640 x 480
$1000 for a 100 MB hard drive (yes 100 megabytes)
$100 for a Kensington trackball
24-bit scanners were $2500, as were 19″ color monitors
I forget the price of a LaserWriter
How times have changed!
@tt:
There’s a radical new invention you might not have heard of: Second-hand computers!
@tt
Craigslist, I have bought numerous macbooks for my buddies there for 500-600 $ that are in great shape, just be careful not to get a lemon or a stolen computer, check the serial # and have apple check it out at the genius bar before you buy and you should be in good shape. I know it sucks not having the money for one but I waited 3 years to get one and saved all I could and got a 15in macbook pro! don’t give up, and don’t give in to the PC, its not worth it trust me. “we don’t ship junk” (Steve Jobs). Good luck
Maybe Psystar should consider becoming an authorized Apple distributor if they want to keep selling computers.
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@Saldin
Not in America. Our laws prevent that kind of legal abuse.
One thing nobody has mentioned on this thread is what the true cost of OS X would be if Apple did license it for non-Apple hardware. It wouldn’t be $29 or even $129. Apple would have to recoup the cost of development they normally get from the hardware sales. It would probably be priced AT LEAST as high as Windows 7 Ultimate (about $300 without iLife). Would tt and the hackintosh community be willing to pay the real cost of the OS? What would adding $300 for the OS to the cost a cheap PC do to it’s bargain price?
People giving advice to tt completely miss the point.
tt works for a company that thinks Macs are too expensive. You all know the company I’m talking about. Anyway, tt is paid by that company to point out to people that Macs are more expensive. tt points this out on English language blogs all over the world. tt makes good money doing this, and why not? He just had almost everyone here proving his point for him.
tt is my hero.
Not just an injunction… The referenced article missed the point that Apple is also asking for $2,120,000 in damages and also for attorney’s fees.
Another iron-fist blow from Apple against its OS X customers.
Lock-in the user… drive down choice… drive up profits.
Hopefully the US government will step in soon to change the law and free OS X users by forcing Apple to compete in the open hardware market.
Twenty Benson,
I have no doubt, should some court decide that Apple cannot use EULA to prohibit people from installing OS X on generic Intel hardware, the next day, all new Apple hardware will be built with Apple’s proprietary PA Semi chips. Parts of OS X kernel will be compiled to only run on these chips. That would probably be the end of it.
As much as you may hate it, but Apple considers it their strategic interest to prevent OS X from being legally used on hardware that Apple has not built and does not support.
Macs aren’t expensive to me, and I’m no Rockefeller. Every few years, they become even cheaper (especially considering inflation), so the price is never a major issue for anyone making decent wages in the US. Globally, it may be a different story (but all the complainers hail from the US).
@Predrag
Nor is price a major issue for me.
I would gladly pay $500 for OS X – as long as could get to run it on hardware of my choice (and that meets my needs). Even if such a broadened range of hardware has to be Apple-certified.
Love OS X
Hate Apple’s tacky, limited hardware.
Cadillacs and Mercedes.
Cadillac tried to make a low cost car to sell to the “cheap customer”. Anyone see any Cateras on the road today. The very few that I have seen all appeared run down and poorly cared for.
Mercedes also tried to produce a low cost car for the “cheapos”. I saw the E190 many years back and wanted one (but I was just out of high school and couldn’t afford one). I think it retailed for 19K, less than half of the next cheapest Mercedes. However, it too seemed to have serious problems with quality and durability as compared to the rest of the Mercedes line.
I would hate to see Apple do a similar act.
Mercedes, BMW, Cadillac et al do not try to sell to everyone. They know their market and are able to be successful. Apple, likewise, should stay on track and hopefully avoid the quickening decay of companies like Dell and Microsoft.