MacDailyNews Take: If by “many,” Rushe means a handful of knee-jerk loudmouths who will soon regret their decision, if they don’t already, he’d be right. Otherwise, no.
Rushe continues, “Frustrated by stories that Apple was squeezing software developers and rumours it was blocking applications that could compete with products controlled by Apple and its partners, Torrez decided it was time to switch. Like all good techies he made the move a public event – blogging a day-by-day account of his defection to a G1 phone powered by Android, a mobile software platform developed by Google.”
MacDailyNews Take: Sheesh. That’s like protesting Coke for selling sugary cola by switching to Pepsi. Please see: Google bans tethering app from Android Market.
Rushe continues, “”By day three Torrez’s enthusiasm for the G1 was already waning: ‘I can’t think of one application that works as well as the average iPhone app. I need to keep looking,’ he wrote… By day seven it was over. Queuing to use a cash machine, Torrez found he had even lost the will to Twitter. ‘I give up. I thought it would be fun to see what life was like on a different platform but I think I’ve seen more than enough on this hardware,’ he wrote.”
Rushe reports, “‘On Saturday my family was here to visit and I found myself reaching for the iPhone to check on a restaurant, map some directions, and to check on an order. Given a choice between the two I just could not keep flipping that thing open knowing there were other perfectly good computers nearby … I took the G1 into work today but I came home knowing what I had to do. I switched back to the iPhone,’ [Torrez wrote.]”
Rushe reports, “Good news for Apple. Bad news for Google.”
Full article here.
[Thanks to MacDailyNews Reader “Robert S.” for the heads up.]
These bloggers that do this rant because they fail to realize that Apple is just doing what they have to do to acheive the user experience that the iPhone is known for, are idiots and should realize that everything has a price. I’d love to see them unable to go back to the iPhone even after they reaize their mistake.
Shoot, Android isn’t that bad. Actually it’s pretty good. I chose the iPhone over it since I was with ATT anyways, but if I wasn’t I would certainly consider Android before switching data providers.
Plus, there are a lot of Android Apps that you just can’t have on the iPhone. Like apps that run in the background, and tethering apps. Yeah, that’s right. There are Android tethering apps that you can download without voiding the phone’s warranty. Their just not in the App Store included with the phone. Unlike Apple, Google does not care to have a monopoly on Mobile App retail. Apple does -you get apps from them or from no one (or risk bricking your phone).
That’s a monopoly, and the bad kind. Just to further the point, imagine if MS tried to do the same thing with Windows. “To guarantee safety of our customers, we only allow applications for windows that have been carefully checked by us, and don’t duplicated any of the functions already included on your PC.” No, more iTunes, Quicktime, Safari, Firefox, Picassa, Open Office, ect. ect. ect. -on Windows.
Apple needs to open up their platform to new stores. Quality of Apps won’t decrease, they will increase with competition.
The G1 isn’t agreat phone. Besides, does anyone seriously expect T-mobile to spur enough interest for great app development?
“fails to squeeze into smartphone market”
maybe they should try Rush’s diet…..
“Frustrated by stories that Apple was squeezing software developers and rumours it was blocking applications that could compete with products controlled by Apple and its partners, Torrez decided it was time to switch”
ANALOGY: “I am so sick of this Cadillac. OH, look! A shiny red Pinto!!!”
@ TowerTone
Those pills give him a lot of energy.
T-mobile MyTouch comes really close to the iphone in a lot of ways. Plus, we have 3 phones, one with full unlimited internet, one home phone and one regular cell phone with 1000 minutes and free calling between them for 100 dollars a month. The home phone line you can call and talk to anyone in the United States for free all day long.
Try and beat that! I would love to have an iphone but the plans are horribly expensive!
@dallas
there is one problem with your MS analogy. no one uses an iphone because someone held a gun to their head. well, maybe there are some isolated cases. your rationalization that apple is trying to be MS is off target. they simply have a better product. it is arguable that windows was a better product for consumers (in any version). they are by no means a monopoly in mobile app retail. what google and apple have are virtual monopolies of mindshare. google is barely 50% of search and apple is not even that in smartphones. their mindshare is near 90% level. mobile apps are not just the apps you buy for your smartphone, but also your netbook. apple’s monopoly isolated on the phone they sell that does not have more than half the marketshare does not qualify as any monopopy.
i’m not trying to apologize for apple, but control of their apps is fundamental to the experience of the iphone. the market will decide whether they are making the right decisions or not, not individuals. just like the government, the market works better when it is driven by the masses and not a few people wanting their personal needs satisfied. those people can make their own phones and writer their own apps.
@ dave smith
How expensive are three phones?
The only thing Apple has a monopoly on is excellence.
C1-
” width=”19″ height=”19″ alt=”wink” style=”border:0;” />
Huh? Speak up!…..
Sorry, you might not be able to hear me over the sound of Rush rustling paper and sweating.
” width=”19″ height=”19″ alt=”raspberry” style=”border:0;” />
Funny how people on these forums know what Apple “needs” to do. When they say that, what they really mean is “this is what I need Apple to do.”
Apple is good at determining its own needs, thank you very much.
@Mackel
I think you misunderstood me. I do not think Apple is trying to be like MS. Apple is trying to do what MS can’t because the Justice Dept. won’t let them. If MS was allowed to ban iTunes from all PC computers this site would be up in arms (and rightfully so). If MS was allowed to ban Firefox from all PCs 90% of the world would still be using IE 6. *shutter*
What Apple needs to do is allow downloads of programs from the internet. Before a program is installed, a pop up should appear that says
“ABC.app is an Application that may contain Malware. Choices: Install, Delete, Search for ABC.app in the App Store”.
If they did this, they would be completely exonerated in my opinion. But as it stands now, they will not allow Firefox, Opera, Google Voice, Thunderbird, Tethering, etc. because they don’t want to have to compete with those apps. It would be illegal if MS did it, and it’s illegal for Apple to do it. Oh and Google has closer to 90% market share in the US. Which I don’t mind, as they don’t block people from using competing services.
Apparently, Google has learned nothing from Microsoft’s mistakes. Building an OS for other manufacturers to install on their hardware just doesn’t provide a seamless, consistent, compelling user experience.
Merlin Mann made an interesting analogy: the iPhone experience is Catholicism; you always know exactly how the priest is going to give you the wafer. It’s a ritual that you don’t need to think one iota about.
He went on to say that Google Android does EVERYTHING, but to its own peril.
Android is for those that want to make a hobby out of their cell phone. The iPhone is for those don’t want to apply a lot of thought to their cell phone usage. That would be me. I want an appliance to be a “no-brainer”, not a puzzle to be figured out each time.
But I am willing to accept that for some people the Android is going to be the best choice. It’s good that it is available for those people.
@Dallas:
Blah blah blah…
“bla bla bla”
Oh the enlightened rebuttle.
I thought Google banned tethering apps from it’s app store.
“What’s with all this tether-bawlin’?”
-Deb
@ Dallas,
“That’s a monopoly, and the bad kind. Just to further the point, imagine if MS tried to do the same thing with Windows. “To guarantee safety of our customers, we only allow applications for windows that have been carefully checked by us,”
If you knew anything about decent Anti-Virus software on MS’s Windows platform, you would know that the same thing is done buy your AV software. Any software not on the AV checked software list is immediately isolated and not allowed to run.
This is all Apple is doing with approved apps. This is what Microsoft’s own AV software does. This is what Microsoft should have done back in 1995. The bastards.
“Unlike Apple, Google does not care to have a monopoly on Mobile App retail. Apple does -you get apps from them or from no one (or risk bricking your phone). That’s a monopoly, and the bad kind. Just to further the point, imagine if MS tried to do the same thing with Windows.”
Yeah, and you know what’s even worse? Apple has a monopoly on producing Macs. Either your Macs are made by them or they’re made by no one. That’s a monopoly, and the bad kind. Apple needs to open up their platform to 3rd party PC manufacturers.
Take Psystar for example! They make topnotch hardware for 1/4th the pri–Hahahah, I’m sorry, I can’t even finish that. But you get the point. Your arguement is basically the same as rattiemouse’s hysterics.
Apple does not have a monopoly on mobile app retail, it has a monopoly on its own App Store. Which is normal. Most companies have a monopoly over their own things. If you don’t like their store policy, then go buy an Android phone and be free as a bird. Apple isn’t doing anything to stop you.
Linux on the mobile so far has greater momentum than Linux on the desktop in that service providers and handset makers are willing to give up Windows. But having various Linux flavors popping up with Android, Maemo, and Symbian (looming), and manufacturers and carriers jockeying for various app market designs and controls with different business models will simply translate into confusion for the consumers.
@ big al
it would be kind of like anti-virus if MS bought mcaffy, bundled it with windows, and used it to ban competing applications from other companies. But as it is, the user decides what anti-virus they want. If they want one that is weaker, they can find it and uninstall whatever came preloaded.
@@Dallas
I am not arguing that apple should license mac os or iPhone os. They can sell and market thier own stuff any way they choose. But they shouldn’t ban competing programs that they didn’t develop themselves.
All this rubbish about Microsoft can’t do this and can’t do that… the reason is that Apple has not attempted to control the entire market through devious practises while Microsoft has – and continues to.
If Apple achieve 100% market share it won’t matter, and it won’t be a monopoly as long as there are other offers. The fact that nobody wants them will be irrelevant.
Good line: “The only thing Apple has a monopoly on is excellence.”
@Dallas
Dallas Puleeze Shut Up! The more you comment the more you show your ignorance. If you don’t like Apple products…. DON’T BUY THEM!!!!!!
@Dallas
The writer who noted that when people such as you say “Apple needs to…” what they are really saying is “I want Apple to…” has it right.
Apple spent billions of dollars engineering the iPhone, creating the App Store and assembling the amazing infrastructure and ecosystem that makes iPhone the best mobile computing experience by a very wide margin. It has absolutely no obligation whatsoever, legal or otherwise, to open the system as you suggest. One reason it won’t is that it would immediately degrade the user experience a’la Windows.
If you don’t like it, vote with your dollars and go get another phone. That is how the market works. But be aware that you are a tiny minority – according to a recent survey, exactly 1% of all iPhone users are not happy with the product. That strongly indicates to me that the vast, vast, vast majority of users are ok with the way Apple is running things. Get a clue.
re: the Dallas thread
Most every institution that provides its own ecosystem can, and does, censor what goes into that system.
-Why aren’t there x-rated games for the PS-3? There certainly could be, but Sony absolutely wouldn’t allow them.
-Why does your local library offer some magazines and not others? Because they have limited resources AND because they know what their patrons like and what they can get away with offering.
-Why won’t the local radio station play just any song anyone requests? Because their on-air library has been pre-approved by the programming directors.
They all censor what they offer. If, Dallas, you’re saying you wish Apple’s phone were more open, then that’s one thing, but arguing that they’re abusing their right to restrict what they offer, I can’t agree with that.
“Dallas Puleeze Shut Up! ” I love rebuttals. If you can’t argue with the logic, then just tell the other guy to “Puleeze Shut Up!”
@Ralph
I love my iPhone. I love my Macs. I’ve written each of the above posts on either a 5 year old iBook or my iPhone. They run great. And amazingly my 5 year old iBook still runs great without Apple locking it down to software that they allow. In fact, it runs better than if they did lock it down like they do the iPhone. I never upgraded from 10.3 so Firefox 2 is the only reasonably decent web browser that still runs on it. If Apple locked down my laptop like they do my iPhone, then I would be stuck with Safari 1 and the laptop would be obsolete as Safari 1 can’t run the web apps I need.
To everyone defending Apple’s moves on this, I will ask this simple question:
Would you be defending Microsoft if they banned iTunes from Windows PCs because it duplicated Windows Media Functionality, just like Apple banned Google Voice from the iPhone for duplicating the iPhone’s Dialer’s functionality?
Or if you just have something against Google, How about this one:
Would you be defending Microsoft if they banned iTunes from Windows PCs because it duplicated Windows Media Functionality, just like Apple banned Opera 10 from the iPhone for duplicating the iPhone’s Safari functionality?
@Christian,
No, no, no. You are exactly right. Apple can offer and or exclude any software they want in their own store. What makes them a bad monopoly is that Apple bans ALL OTHER STORES.
What they should do, is the same thing they do for their Macs and Music Stores. Allow the user to download Apps from the internet. When they do pop up a window that says:
“ABC.app is an Application that may contain Malware. Apple Suggests that you first try to find the Application in the App Store.
Download and Install
Cancel
Search for ABC.app in the App Store.”
This is what they do for their Macs and Music. You can choose to download a safe program or music file that they suggest from their store, or you can take on the risk for the App or music file yourself. That’s the way the iPhone should work. Their current method is uncompetitive.
ps. Apple may know very well what they are doing, but that doesn’t make it not illegal. In fact, it makes it more so.
Dallas – iTunes serves to sync with a non-MSFT external device. I don’t think Windows Media Player can read/write to iPods. To disallow iTunes would be like forbidding all PC peripherals from using the software from their respective manufacturers.
If 80% of all mobile phone users own an iPhone, I may buy the opening-up the App Store argument, but until then…
” Apple needs to open up their platform to 3rd party PC manufacturers. “
Are you mad?
That’s like saying Google must give its search algorithms to Yahoo and Microsoft..
Or why not make Google open up it’s search pages to Bing?
Uhhhh?
Dallas has it all arse about tit, he should read, and comprehend, what has been written on this thread instead of blindly continuing his own narrow line of thought….
@macaday and freebeer
you didn’t answer my question. I’ll repeat it now, but if I have to repeat it again I’ll have to assume you are avoiding it because you know the answer trumps your defense.
Would you be defending MS if they did to Quicktime or Firefox what Apple is doing to Google Voice or Opera?
“… just like Apple banned Opera 10 from the iPhone for duplicating the iPhone’s Safari functionality?”
There are other browsers in the App Store. And Opera may never have been submitted.
http://daringfireball.net/2008/11/opera_app_store
@@Dallas
right. You can have any bowser you like, so long as it’s Webkit. Not that I have a beef with webkit. But banning all others is anti-competitive.
How many other mail apps are there in the App store?
The things these blogging morons rant about are exactly why the iPhone experience is far superior. At least this one blogger has come to that realization and has admitted his mistake in the same public forum.
@ Dallas
> Would you be defending MS if they did to Quicktime or Firefox what Apple is doing to Google Voice or Opera?
You are comparing the PC platform to the mobile smart phone platform. That is a ridiculous comparison. Practices that are appropriate for PC’s are not appropriate for consumer electronics devices. Also, Microsoft’s Windows monopoly in the PC market prevents it from acting in a way that is perfectly appropriate for Apple in the mobile phone market. Apple only has a small fraction of the overall market; customers who don’t like Apple’s practices can choose another product. But most of them won’t, because most of them don’t care (or even know about) Google Voice or Opera. Apple provides an user experience that makes them happy and satisfied precisely BECAUSE they keep control.
@Dallas
“I am not arguing that apple should license mac os or iPhone os. … But they shouldn’t ban competing programs that they didn’t develop themselves.”
Why not?
Just because you don’t like it?
There’s nothing illegal about it & personally, I really like my Mac experience. If that’s what they have to do to make it happen I’m fine with that.
Also – the law doesn’t care about “good” & “bad” monopolies. It only cares about monopolies that abuse their power. Apple isn’t doing that. You may not like it – but there’s nothing wrong with what they’re doing.
@ken1w – Well put. You pretty much always contribute something useful here. Thanks.
Dallas, I can see your point, and agree that it would be criminal for Microsoft to dictate what could go on its o.s., but we’re not talking about an o.s. here; we’re talking about a store, and Apple controls the store and what can be sold in it the way Walmart restricts music it sells. If Apple were to one day open the phone so that anyone could sell apps for it (and plenty of posters here, Mac fans all, argue that it should in the future) that would be different.
Palm, Blackberry, WinMo, they all have their own means of providing content and they can all dictate what will or will not go on their phones. People can and will find ways of jailbreaking so they can put other-than-approved content on, but this is how the game is being played and will be played for the foreseeable future, and as this article points out, Apple is currently the best player.
I’ll be the dissenting voice here. I switched from the iPhone to the G1 9 months ago and haven’t looked back. Hardware wise, the iPhone beats the G1 hollow. From a software perspective, the Android OS 1.0 was pretty close to the iPhone. But with 1.5, it’s now way ahead of the iPhone (Haven’t used the 3GS but don’t expect it to be much better than the 3G OS). Also, unexpectedly, the android apps are better than the iPhone apps.
The iPhone’s good, but the Android’s better.
The point is Dallas, Microsoft CANNOT refuse iTunes, because they are a convicted monopolist.
Had there been no monopolistic behaviour from Microsoft, then yes, they probably could have banned iTunes.
Though as has been said, your question is meaningless, because the PC and the phone have quite different development histories an it’s silly to try and compare them.
People who boycott Apple because of its business practices are denying themselves a superior product, and for what? No-one cares about their “statement.”
Chrissy-
For 2 cell phones, one being the MyTouch 3G with unlimited internet, one regular cellphone without internet, 1000 minutes (calls to anyone) family time (free calls between two cell phones) and an internet phone line at home, the total per month cost from T-Mobile is 105 dollars.
MyTouch 3G is nice, it has most features of what an iPhone has, uses Android and is a pretty nice phone. It’s no iPhone, but it comes pretty close and for the price cannot be beat by any other competitor.
I would love to have an iPhone, the plans are way out of my income range though…
@ Dallas
I think the more salient comparison would be, “Would you have an issue with Microsoft banning Apple programs from Windows Mobile or Google banning Apple programs from Android”.
I think the answer would be a resounding “No” from almost everybody who has partaken in this thread…
“Also – the law doesn’t care about “good” & “bad” monopolies. It only cares about monopolies that abuse their power. “
Do people even read their comments before posting them? If a monopoly abuses their power, then they are ‘bad’ monopolies.
I don’t buy the “rules don’t apply in this case” argument. Business is business. Society doesn’t work if we try to make special exceptions for every case. Besides, it’s not different anyways. If Microsoft came out and said “In Windows 7, iTunes and Firefox will not be allowed to be installed because they duplicates features included in Windows,” everyone would throw a fit. And rightfully so. In fact, they did do things like this. They hid APIs from competitors that gave their products an advantage. It wasn’t iTunes then, it was RealPlayer and Netscape. The Justice Dept. declared MS a monopoly and banned them from such practices in the future.
Apple is headed down a very similar path with their App store. My solution is very simple and completely exonerates Apple. Apple can -and should- continue building their App store and adding new programs that a checked for malware, bugs, etc. THEN, Apple should allow users to download new programs from the internet as well, and not hide APIs as MS did. When an App is downloaded from the net, a pop-up window should come up checking to make sure that the user understands that this App has not been checked by Apple and can even offer an Advertisement for Apple’s own store for similar apps. BUT, if a consumer wants to install an App that is from a competing company, the consumer should be allowed to make that choice.
As it stands now, the consumer is allowed no choice. Use Apple, or nothing at all. That is a quintessential monopoly, and if the iPhone continues to grow quickly in marketshare (which I think it most certainly will) it is going to bite Apple in the bud.
I understand where you are coming from, but I would like to clear one thing up. The reason why non web kit browsers are omitted is because the iPhone was designed to run webkit. With it’s limited processing power, a browser running a browser using technology not honed to the iPhone’s specifications would be sluggish. I’m sure you’d understand, opera almost always is last on the browser benchmark tests. With Google voice, Apple hasn’t rejected. I know a lot of people love saying that it was rejected, but let’s be real. The whole Google voice system is confusing (to me) and very different from most conventional VoIP apps. And apple wants to make sure that users who chose Google voice aren’t bombarded with complications. If Apple blocks an app, there must be a reason why they do it. They don’t do it for selfish purposes, they’d get a lot of negative press if they actually did Managing the app store is hard. With 65,000 apps and counting, it’s difficult to keep track with every developer and make sure they’re following correct procedure and that they don’t ruin the user’s experience.
I don’t know why people here are being hostile towards you. Your questions about app rejection are valid, and they should be answered rationally.
“As it stands now, the consumer is allowed no choice. Use Apple, or nothing at all.”
What kind of fucked up logic is that? Apple stewards their own App Store, so therefore conumers aren’t allowed a choice?
No, consumers are indeed allowed a choice. They can choose to buy any other smartphone on the fucking market, and Apple isn’t erecting any barriers to stop them. How do you not get that?
@ Dallas.
“That’s a monopoly, and the bad kind. Just to further the point, imagine if MS tried to do the same thing with Windows. “To guarantee safety of our customers, we only allow applications for windows that have been carefully checked by us, and don’t duplicated any of the functions already included on your PC.” ”
Actually MS does that by buying the company and trashing it, even if it has a better product, cause they only want you to have their stuff to use. Love MS at your own risk. If you want to learn the truth try reading Daniel Dilger, roughlydrafted.com. It might just surprise you.
PS. Apple does not prevent you from jail breaking your iPhone and running any thing you want to. If you just don’t like the company, its simple. Just start your own company, make tons of money and do it your way. By letting anyone do anything they wanted to your phone and blame your company and run you into bankruptcy. LOL Go for it.
@Dallas
“Do people even read their comments before posting them? If a monopoly abuses their power, then they are ‘bad’ monopolies.”
I read my comment before posting it & I stand by it.
Apple is not a monopoly with the iPhone so they can’t be abusive, and they certainly aren’t being “bad”.
Just because a company is “bad” does not make it abusive.
And Apple certainly isn’t acting as either.
@ Dallas,
“you didn’t answer my question. I’ll repeat it now, but if I have to repeat it again I’ll have to assume you are avoiding it because you know the answer trumps your defense.
Would you be defending MS if they did to Quicktime or Firefox what Apple is doing to Google Voice or Opera?”
Incorrect question. MS has a store. They sell only what they want on the store. They do not ban running other software because its pretty near impossible. You can run anything you want on your iPhone, just jail break it and go for it.
Apple is not run for the strict pleasure of Dallas or others that want mixed fruit. Apple makes Apple. Like Dell, buy Dell. Android, linux, MS…. Buy what suits you but this is a site where people generally like Apple. If Apple just does not suit you, you know what to do.
PS. We all do get to bitch about Apple. Its our right. But remember, there is a difference between: “I wish Apple would do this……..” and “If Apple does not …… then they suck and should go out of business, bla, bla bla…. “
Just a thought.
en
PS. Actually that last comment goes out to EVERY person who posts here. Dislike something Apple does, and I will support your right to dislike it………. Bitch about Apple and demand that they kiss your butt…. cause of some stupid little thing and your an open target for the rest of us…
Apple Rules!!!!! (not cause they are Apple but cause Apple does it right—- big difference. )
@dallas
“… imagine if MS tried to do the same thing with Windows.”
Ummm… did you know Apple allows anyone to develop for their OSX OS and sell any way any where… just like Windows?
“”ABC.app is an Application that may contain Malware. Choices: Install, Delete, Search for ABC.app in the App Store”. “
Yeah, apparently don’t appreciate the business value of maintaining a consistent customer experience. McDonalds was built on this concept of consistent quality, menu and customer experience. Haven’t noticed when anything goes awry with an Apple product, like the supposed exploding iPhones that the press made a big deal of, and they ended up being false. So as smart brand manager, it’s in your interest to maintain a policy that would prevent a bad user experience to protect yourself from the volatility of people crying “wolf” and having the media take the problem out of context. I can’t believe you don’t realize how people believe everything they hear in the news even when taken out of context. Maybe when someone goes says something about you that becomes very embarrassing simply because it was taken “out of context” that you’ll understand the point I’m making.
BTW, Apple does not have even close to a monopoly in phones whereas MS does in OS’s. Further, a monopoly is NOT illegal… look it up. Dream on if you think Apple could ever come close to a monopoly position in phones as MS has in the OS market… with existing competitors such as Rimm and Nokia, it’s not gonna happen. Just as Mercedes, BMW and Lexus will never hold a monopoly share.
This is UNRELATED topic post…
The Apple Store is DOWN!!!!!!
@dallas
You cannot compare Apple with Microsoft. Microsoft does not make any hardware in the PC market. They are a third party supplier. The fact that if you want to buy a PC it MUST have Windiws installed. Consumers only other choice is Apple.
Apple makes their own hardware AND software. This differs from Microsift in that they MUST allow other software products (browsers, media players, etc) to be available.
Since Apple makes the whole widget, consumers and that there are other options in cell phones and computers, Apple can do whatever they want.
If the consumer doesn’t like it they have other options.
Case closed.
Just like PC users – unfortunately, a large portion of the public have no taste. Just like people who wear jeans and flipflops to weddings, the standards of the average person are way low. There’s a certain portion who love Apple for making them productive, and a portion who just think Apple
s ‘cool’. Conscientious decision makers, are people judging based on a rationale, and not the oblivious types. Android, like Linux on the desktop, brings nothing to the table, yet some can’t see it due to wishful thinking. Apple told the FCC that basically, the Google app sought to take control of the whole iphone, and it changed the user experience in a non-beneficial way to Apple or it’s users. WTF? Google isn’t competition because innovation isn’t involved, but derivation(?). Google shouldn’t really even make iphone apps beyond the basics, it shows a non-commitment to their own platform. Making the best VoIP on the Apple platform is a death sentence for theirs, a conflict of interest, that shouldn’t have been attempted. I saw the obvious failure in the ‘Android’ platform the minute they sought to copy Apple in any way. Google is rich, but that in no way affects their capability to deal with Apple on an intelligent, innovative level. People misinterpret Googles finances by assuming it’s a do-it-all Superman simply beacuse it has money (90% from search advertising and nothing else). I see Google as a one trick pony for a long time. It does do that one trick awfully well though.
Wow. That ‘Dallas’ guy stepped into the rowng room boy! Yup!
Don’t you DARE post a dissenting opinion in these quarters. They’ll chew you up and spit you out in less time than it takes to, er, do something quaint and quintessentially southern.
It is fun posting pointless comments on forums like this though.
You can say anything, and this is good a place as any to sneak a little snippet in.
As most people never bother reading on to page 2 of the comments you can say just about anything and nobody will be any the wiser.
Sweet memories, flashing very quickly by. Reminding me…
A delightful time was had by all in Wales. You know, the land in one of the world’s Hemispheres. It never really gets hot in Wales and the nights are utterly silent. Visit Rockfield, just for fun outside Monmouth right by the open fields. Near a place massively unpronounceable. Complete quiet and peace.
Head to, Oswestry. Julia’s impossibly small house. Perhaps 400 square feet? Walk on Chester’s walls and hit the little Apple shop and then Liverpool. You know of Paul’s dad’s house in a coastal village near the Dee Estuary (!) but we can only drive by it to get to the little pub at the end of the road, called Sheldrakes. You never went in the place when we were there. Keep driving and you’re in the mire, the river is silted up in that area. Boats sinking unto the mud, and gents in flat caps walking dogs.
One corpulent chap says hello. I reply; “How’s it going?” Beams he; “Mighty fine boys, mighty fine.”
Out to the coast further down. Aberystwyth. Girlfriend attend college there. Just to the north, a town named Borth. What we need to do is rent a car and go there again. Bring cameras and not guitars. Stay at the house for a base and head down into the tiny shops and pubs and bakeries. Stand on the plinth where the Prince once stood at Caernarfon and listen to the history.
In Wales, “plus ca change…”
Do you get what I’m saying Alex?
…
RUSH
…
Sky Lark.
Well caught!
Somebody’s reading all the comments!
Ever been to Wales?
@Geddy
I like your prose style you pain a vivid picture with words. You write professionally?
@maclover
paragraph breaks make giant blocks of text easier to read.
Unless you are writing a legal contract.
IN WHICH CASE TRY ALL CAPS.
Twilightmoon:
I write music, prose is not something I excel at, so thanks for the comment. I was up late last night and was just rambling. I’ve been all over but somehow Wales sticks out. There’s no way to explain it, the place is magical somehow. Right above North Wales is a peninsula named The Wirral, just below Liverpool. Paul Mac’s dad has (or had) a house in a town named Heswall on Baskerville Road. (Fantastic name, eh!?)
I just could not remember which house it was.
Anyway.
I may put up some more stuff on this page. Might be fun, blogs just attract the nuts. Mercifully small audience here. Don’t want to talk about music though.
I have traveled many parts of the world myself I love Ireland and Italy a lot personally. Australia is pretty cool too as is New Zealand.
I will have to check out the part of Wales your talking about, tho!
Many thanks.
@Dallas,
“Would you be defending Microsoft if they banned iTunes from Windows PCs because it duplicated Windows Media Functionality, just like Apple banned Google Voice from the iPhone for duplicating the iPhone’s Dialer’s functionality? “
Microsoft can’t ban shit. They don’t make the hardware. They don’t own the app sales and distribution for PCs. They cannot do this if they wanted to.
@Milind,
“From a software perspective, the Android OS 1.0 was pretty close to the iPhone. But with 1.5, it’s now way ahead of the iPhone (Haven’t used the 3GS but don’t expect it to be much better than the 3G OS). Also, unexpectedly, the android apps are better than the iPhone apps.”
It’s funny. I happen to think that iPhone OS 3.0 is way ahead of Android OS. (I haven’t used 1.5 but I don’t expect it to be much better than 1.0). Also iPhone has more better apps and less expensive too.
See, I can bullshit just as good.
LOL.. writing it off in its first iteration based on some guy that thinks all existing iPhone software works on Android.. gg!
give it some time will you.. jeez..
The link to the full article is broken…