“It appears that Leopard is now Final Candidate!” Alexandros Roussos reports for MacScoop.
Build 9A559’s “seed note indicates very few known issues and is overall very stable according to feedback we were given on it,” Roussos reports.
This “leaves no more than two to three weeks for Apple to release a Golden Master build,” Roussos reports.
Full article here.
MacDailyNews Note: A typical software release cycle:
• Pre-alpha (testing and design)
• Alpha (about 1/3rd complete)
• Beta (usually the first release to public testers, bug fixing, largely feature-complete)
• Release candidate (Called “Final” above; code complete, or no new code being added, with ongoing source code fixes)
• Gold Master (master copy of a release)
Almost there!
Great news. Unfortunately, Apple has also stated that the next build of Leopard will make computers that have installed 3rd party software inoperable. Did you change the look of your computer? Did you install software that Apple neglected to include that increased your productivity? Then it appears that you computer may go dead if you install this update.
Update with caution.
I’m about to unleash a white creamy master in my pants looking at the leopard build screens
MDN: “talk” as in i wish steve jobs would talk dirty to me every night
Looks like I need to get ready for ACHS re-cert for 10.5!
Big deal. Microsoft Windows Vista has been out for months and it ROCKS! Another case of too little, too late for the copycats at Apple.
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Misha, I hope you are female.
OK, developers, I only want to know a few things:
Is there a spaces type feature for Dashboard? Or Dashboard folders? I want someway to better manage my 300+ widgets.
How are the multiple clipboards implemented in Leopard?
Are there sliders for controlling the degree of transparency and icon size (other than the usual way of controlling icon size in the get info box)? Is there something that controls things system-wide?
@ Zune Tang: almost time to eat your words, hang on there!
@ applePA: Your hyperbole is ineffective, because sometimes Mac OS updates do break third-party stuff (but not usually the whole computer). No one bitches at Apple about it, they just demand the third-party products be updated. Ever hear of Quark? Third-party items that muck around down deep in Mac OS, which can also cause strange behavior and other breakage. Again, no one bitches at Apple, but wait for their skinning utilities or whatever to be updated for the new OS. I fail to see the difference with iPhone and Mac OS X — if you change OS internals in a way that is unstable or unsupported, expect problems. Apple is at least giving everyone a heads up that some pretty serious ones could happen on iPhone — and that they are under no obligation to work around hacker’s code in future updates.
@ misha: thanks for the laugh. I think maybe you need to get out a little more, though.
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I’m hoping for an iWork/iLife type scenarion where they whip a load of stuff out of the bag that we new nothing about. So as well as the cool stuff we’ve seen they can wow us even more.
I have 300+ Dashboard widgets – in lieu of a life, of course.
Ready to go Gold???
Good luck with all that. My own experience has led me to the conclusion that Apple has worked very hard to make all the new stuff sing.
The rest of apps, even their own, are not working very well.
Here’s my final prediction: Apple arrogance reaches new heights, along with AAPL. Message to users: if third party stuff is not working call their support line, not us. If Apple’s apps are not working, be patient .1, .2, .3 will be out in due course.
Careful, Steve. There’s a limit – even for you.
@applePA
Were did you hear that? I think probably every Mac user has at least one 3rd party app on their computer, so why would Apple do that? Makes no sense at all. Has anyone else heard this? So we can only install apps from The Democratic People’s Republic of Apple? No way. Stop the FUD!
i whould like that apple have his way to make software like adobe and freehand,to substitute then with apple programs like aperture and FCE and make then more simple to and to put people using only apple programs,in my opinion i like it.
Zune Tang… you never sounded so Pro Mac then this time.
your secret is safe
u da man!!!!
@Caution Ahead
I call FUD.
MW: “group”, as in there seems to be a group of FUD-slingers posting here nowadays.
it is NOT even close to being ready
1) new imovie doesn’t work
2) Morion doesn’t work
3) flash does not work in any browser
and many many small annoyances that cause troubles
it will be at least a few weeks and 4 or more builds.
Wow people on here are thick. ApplePA’s comment is a comment on what Apple are doing with the iPhone, he/she is not being serious.
Mr. applePA was only being very sarcastic. He appears to be displeased with the iPhone/update missive.
Zunetag, Vista is 5 years old already, were talking about a new operating system that actually has useful features, not user unfriendly DRM and annoying security that still doesn’t work!
Vista turned out to be the biggest DUD that Microsoft has ever produced. Oh and VIsta copied OSX not the other way around by the way.
I believe 3rd party refers specifically to Haxies, such as Unsanity products, and InputManager items such as Safari’s SAFT.
Anyone Leopard testers have reliable information about the future life of these items on Leopard?
FUD accusation slingers galore. The blind faith of contributors to this forum amaze me. There are those of you who I’m sure would absolutely follow Steve to the edge of a cliff and keep walking as he stepped aside and pointed to the abyss.
Leopard isn’t ready. Not even close. Maybe the crew at Cupertino working around the clock and pleading for help from the huge developer corps they have created will pull off a last minute save. But, today, in spite of all the completely unjustified (based on the facts of how it is working – or not working as is the case) enthusiasm, it’s not ready.
RE: Time Machine
Guys, any of you know if TM requires a dedicated hard drive or can a portion of 2nd drive suffice? Seems I remember early on that the former was true but as time went on I can’t find info supporting (or not) this requirement.
Tnx
“Then it appears that you computer may go dead if you install this update.”
I know a witch doctor that can resurrect it. You have to sacrifice an unused Zune, but these can be found in great quantities in dumpsters behind most Best Buys.
http://fakesteveballmer.blogspot.com
How could 90% of the population be wrong?
I was in my Architect’s office the other day when I overheard a conversation between an engineer and the office copy-boy:
CB – “Chuck, did you see the video of the new software from Apple, it really rocks!”
Chuck – “Nah, I’m not interested in any of that crap”
CB – “but, but, but it made this stuff we use here look primitive …”
Chuck – “Look CB, you have to face reality, it’s a Microsoft world out there! How can sooo many people be wrong? The majority uses Windows because it is the best, anything else can only cause problems”
CB – “So you believe that the majority is always right?”
Chuck – “Ofcourse they are, it’s obvious”
Don’t be a weirdo like the copy-boy! All of your friends use Windows, you should too. Haven’t you noticed that the Mac-guys are always the drooling goofballs with high-water pants, plaid shirts and zits. For you and your children’s sake don’t let this continue.
Ok, let me get this straight. CautionAhead posts unsubstantiated FUD, then calls people names when they accuse him of posting unsubstantiated FUD. Wow, CA, that totally convinces me that you’re right. I’m just going to blindly swallow everything you post here, because if I don’t, then I’m a Jobsian lemming. I guess you’re jealous that you don’t have enough lemmings of your own?
CA, why don’t you go make out with Zune Tang? When he’s not busy impersonating other people, I hear he gets lonely.
Heeeeere kitty kitty!
CA doesn’t know what he’s talking about. Past experience tells me that when Kitty comes to market, it will install beautifully. Life is good.
Looks like late October, probably last freaking day. Why can’t Apple, for once, surprise us with an early release with something. Everything is last second or late as hell. I hate waiting! Can you tell?
When Zune Tang eats his words, his breath smells like ass.
@ Caution ahead,
It has nothing to do with blind faith. The faith we have comes from concrete precedent. In the previous 5 releases of OSX, Apple has not dropped the ball. As such, I have no reason to think that now is any different.
Additionally, my experience on boards such as these tells me that you are little more than a troll. You want to stir things up a bit, make some waves, feel important. Maybe you sided with and stuck by M$ for all these years and your ego is so unwilling to admit that you were wrong that you now have to lash out at those who chose wisely.
Grow up.
Unlike ‘tards like you, the rest of us will actually TRY Leopard before passing judgement.
You know Leopard is not ready because……? You expect us to believe that you have inside info? Go peddle your crap at C/NET or some other dumb ass PC site.
I don’t know what you and your ilk think you can accomplish by writing this drivel, especially here.
Caution Ahead:
“Message to users: if third party stuff is not working call their support line, not us.”
Umm, who is “us”? Are you a tech for a Mac support shop? A Mac shop owner? I want to make sure I do not call you when I have problems. But I will call you on release day when things are working properly to tell you that you are an ass clown.
The Dude abides.
wow i thought pc users were dumb but u lot really make me laugh…
I love my Mac Mini G4, and its been running fab, especially after upgrading to a 160GB 5400rpm internal drive.
Cant wait to upgrade to 10.5… although it is getting tempting to save abit more to buy a whole new machine, maybe the iMac. (Faster processing, Front Row, iSight, clears alot of clutter on the desk, etc)
How many other Mac Mini G4 owners out there with the same dilemma?
Okay- different subject everyone…
I live in a rural area where we can’t get cable, dsl, or wireless or even cell phones, but we get satellite and I have read that I can’t do video calls or voip over satellite on the new (or older version) in iChat!. No other options?
I have a macbook runnng leopard, linux and vista. Vista and Ubuntu 7.10 absolutely SMOKE leopard in performance and usability. This comparison is made on the EXACT SAME piece of hardware. Mac OS X feels like garbage while you navigate through it. I, unfortunately, have to use it quite a bit and I can never get used to the quirks and quandries. Tiger was the same way.