Digit: Don’t buy Vista; Microsoft may be driving millions to stick with XP or move to Apple Mac

“Microsoft is losing consumer operating system market share to Apple for many reasons, but most of those reasons can be oversimplified thus: Mac OS is simple, and Windows is complicated,” Mike Elgan blogs for Digit.

“That’s why it may be such a costly error for Microsoft to make the Vista upgrade such a confusing mess,” Elgan writes.

Elgan writes, “Until today, even experts couldn’t tell you off the top of their heads the differences between each of the many Vista versions — or even how many versions there are — or what the basic requirements are for the Upgrade versions. Ordinary consumers are baffled to the point of paralysis.”

“Windows Vista launched with 10 — count ’em, 10 — versions. Instead of giving us a simple new upgrade path to the future, they instead gave us a homework assignment,” Elgan writes.

Elgan writes, “I’ve said it before, and I’ll say it again: Don’t buy Vista yet. But if you really must, consider only two of the 10 versions: Nontechnical consumers should buy the full version of Windows Vista Home Premium, and power users should buy the full version of Windows Vista Ultimate.”

MacDailyNews Take: $399 for Windows Vista Ultimate?! (Hint: Get a Mac).

Elgan writes, “It’s obvious that Microsoft decided to extract maximum cash from consumers by micro-segmenting the market and trying to provide a different version for each. But they may end up with the opposite result. All this confusion over versions and upgrade policies will motivate unknown millions of consumers to simply stick with Windows XP or move to a Mac.”

Full article here.

[Thanks to MacDailyNews Reader “Macaday” for the heads up.]

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82 Comments

  1. Just more senseless noise by the small percentage of the computing using public who have settled for a toy OS. Vista brings to the masses a powerful set of technologies that Apple users only wish they had. With Vista’s superior security and unparalleled technology, the choice is clear — Microsoft has certainly won the OS war long ago.

    Just look at the decision by the Real IT World, not a Mac in sight of a thriving enterprise (except for a small back room hippy hopelessly clinging to a failed vision).

    Do yourselves a favor and join with the winning team. 1984 was a joke. Vista will set you free.

    Your potential. Our Passion.

  2. I think Ballmers lost most of his teeth chewing on Vistas leathery hide.
    No matter how much you gnaw on it it’s not going to become more usable……at least that’s what all the smart people are saying.
    Now, the dumb people, the cretins, their gums are all bleeding but there’s no sentient whatchamacallit anymore due to Microsofts RDF.
    I say, get a Mac and get some teeth.

  3. “..if you want Windows to work well over the long haul, it helps to reformat and perform a clean install once in a while. The Upgrade version requires you to install both XP/2000 and Vista every time, doubling the already massive amount of time it takes to do a reformat/reinstall.”

    Microsoft..delivering pain is our monetary gain.

  4. OT: I come from the Evil Empire and switched last week.
    I have one simple question: is there a keyboard shortcut to open Finder (or better: a Finder window) from wherever you are.
    In Windows there is this shortcut “Windows + E” that launches Windows Explorer, but I couldn’t find an equivalent for Finder on the internet.

    thank you

  5. “…More of that wishful thinking from the 2 percent crowd…”

    I’ll have you know Bill Gates himself pegs the current (2007) Mac market share at 5-6%, according to the Business Week interview linked to here (http://macdailynews.com/index.php/weblog/comments/12524/). And on many college campuses (the demographic Apple is targeting for their growth), ownership is even higher — I’ve seen figures ranging from about 12-30%).

    Do some research, UH OH…

  6. Yes, folks, there’s no need to throw objectivity out the window. Thankfully, Canadians have a passionate and dedicated free press that is not beholden to the pseudo-science special interest groups. Dare you page through and read reasons to doubt Al Gore’s mythology?

    Anyhow, back on topic. Even worse for Microsoft than not selling Vista is Microsoft spending time and effort pacifying the herds of people that actually bought Vista. Microsoft doesn’t sell Vista because people believe that it’s crap, Microsoft sells Vista and millions of people discover that it really is crap. Either way, it benefits Apple. Relax, sit back, and enjoy the show.

  7. Window Switcher: I am unaware of a single command that will open a new finder window for you, but you can do it very quickly with two key commands –

    Have exposé clear your screen (F11)
    then type <Command N>

    That generates a new finder window, viewed all by itself on the desktop.

    Good luck!

  8. Windows switcher:

    This is not the right place to post technical questions… because they may end unanswered.

    1) One of the easiest ways to access the Finder from any other application is using Command (Apple) + Tab and selecting the Finder icon.

    2) Clicking on any visible portion of the desktop (although coming from Windows a doubt you have any!

    3) Presing F9 or F11 and clicking on the desktop.

    I’m sure there are many many more ways…

  9. Funny, how my “toy” OS does everything I need it to do, from coding PHP, PERL, HTML, and CSS to graphics manipulation to surfing, email, listening to music, recording music, and playing the occasional game or two. Don’t sound like such a grumpy old coot, dood. In the world outside your skull, people use Macs for plenty of things. Meanwhile, you spend your time trying to get your jerry-rigged Rube Goldberg of an OS working and doing pointless geek tricks. Wow. To think that I used to be just like you, a master of obscure and meaningless Windows trivia. Thank God I figured out my time was worth more to me than having some sort of geek cred.

  10. hey Windows switcher,

    if you’re in another app and you want to open a Finder window using the keyboard, you can use Command-Tab (this cycles you through the currently open apps, which always includes the Finder) to tab to the Finder app and then hit Command-N.

  11. Windows Switcher:

    If you click on the Finder icon in the Dock, it will bring to the front any open Finder windows. If there are no Finder Windows currently open, it will open a new one for you.

    No keystrokes necessary. Just a single click. (just one of thousands of examples of the Mac’s ease of use)

    You can also set the Finder’s preferences to open new windows to a particular spot.

    Enjoy, and welcome aboard.

  12. Windows switcher:

    Here’s a fast way to get a new Finder window from anywhere:

    Hold down the Command key then click on the Finder icon in the Dock.

    Your Mac should switch to the Finder and open a new window.

  13. As I told a friend the other day, Windows Vista was doomed just because who wants to figure out which version they need out of the four?!?

    I like to think I’m pretty computer savvy and I still had a hard time deciphering what all the mumbo jumbo from the M$ camp was about.

  14. So as a sales outlet for HP, Dell, Sony, Acer, etc etc, how do we know which version of Vista to bundle with a system? What if customer A wants a Dell laptop with only Home Basic, yet another wants the same laptop with Vista Ultimate, how do we deliver? Is the said laptop only supported with a pre-determined version? Can I choose, or must I get the “higher model” laptop to use Ultimate? Will the sales outlet install the OEM Vista of my choosing, or do I have to choose the OEM hardware to match my Vista needs?

    I am so confused. If I were to buy a Mac, then I’d be getting OS X 10.4.8 (or wait until Leopard).

    Oh what should I do?

  15. Now this is arrogant – MS has gotten to the point where they rub the utter obserdity of their product in the faces of their own customers, and they do it because they know the dupped masses will just keep coming back for more.

    Its just too painful to watch.

  16. Switcher – welcome

    hold down the command () key and tab to finder
    hit -N

    I don’t know of a single keystroke that opens a finder window from another application – if you provide context as to what you’re doing, there might be a simpler way.

    again, welcome

  17. @ Windows switcher: As others mentioned, Cmd-Tab works well, and then you may need to hit Cmd-N to create a new window if none are open.

    Another way is to go to the Keyboard & Mouse preference pane, go to the Keyboard Shortcuts tab, click the box for “Move focus to the Dock” (and optionally change the shortcut if desired). Then all you have to do is hit the shortcut key (^F3 by default) and then (assuming the Finder is the first item in your dock) hit enter. The advantage of this method is that it automatically creates a new Finder window if none are open. It’s also pretty fast, and being able to change focus to the Dock via the keyboard is potentially useful in other scenarios as well.

  18. “The Upgrade version requires you to install both XP/2000 and Vista every time, doubling the already massive amount of time it takes to do a reformat/reinstall.”

    So, Vista is only an upgrade of XP!!!

  19. Did anyone see the new Get a Mac ad this morning? Take off on Vista, PC guy has a spy looking agent security guard type standing next to him translating everything, and has to ok communications back and forth between PC and Mac. PC says something along lines of it was necessary after doing the Vista upgrade.

    I don’t remember seeing this one before and don’t see it on the Apple website.

  20. I posted this earlier on another thread

    “”I talked with a friend in Texas, he was all excited, had just bought Vista home Premium and was in the process of DL it, his wintel is 8 months old, went thru the ms tester?? for Vista, said his machine was fine for Vista

    called back a few hours later to see how it went, he told me it kept freezing up during down load, and that he had re installed XP.

    I called yesterday, he wasnt home, I asked his wife if he had re-installed Vista, she told me he couldnt even re install XP , and the tower was sitting on the kitchen table so he could take it into the repair shop!!

    If I didnt want to rub it in, I would suggest he enter MS “show us your WOW contest”

    Enter the “Show Us Your Wow” competition
    When did something leave you awed and exhilarated? Something that made you go “Wow?” Pick your own videos or photos and show the world your “Wow.”

    I am sure he said more than WOW !!!! WTF !!!!!! more likely”””

    now the update, the repair guy told him his video card is shot, is that just coincidence (it was working fine) or could the Vista install done something??

  21. I can’t believe that if I “built” my own PC, as so many of the “techies” claim to do, I would have to pay $400 extra to get a license to run Windows Vista. I thought the whole point was to maximize performance and minimize cost. With Windows Vista, you’d be minimizing performance and maximizing cotst.

  22. Microsoft sold out to the enterprise a long time ago and who could blame them? They have all these companies locked in (for life?) and can ride the gravy train for years to come. With Windows, there is little personal about the “personal computer” anymore. Whereas, Apple has catered to small business and home users.

    Very simply, if you use a computer at home, get a Mac. Windows is focused on business and you’re not a business. You’re just some poor guy trying to check out some porn. 😎

    Seriously though…For you aspiring doctors out there..if you want to learn about Cancer and how it spreads, you might want to study the “popular” MS Windows as it is the biggest cancer on the face of the earth.

  23. I don’t understand Zune Tang and other Windows fanboys reference to OS X and Unix being a “Toy”

    No Apple user will deny Window’s 90 % on the business desktop and home use.

    But why won’t they admit that the “real entrprise” infrastruture is not Windows.

    Webservers are 60 % Apache (Apple built in webserver) Unix and LInux.

    Wall street and financial instituitions backends are mostly Unix.
    Most large companies HR packages, email and ERP systems are Unix.

    Servers that run train scheduling systems, City’s municipal infrastructure and 911 systems are Unix.

    I can’t count how many hotels I’ve been too that use 3270 emulation on a Windows machine to acces Unix
    servers that manage reservations and room charges.

    Many of the DNS servers in the world are Unix.

    Apple’s presence in the Hollywood movie and music business is prevalent.

    Even if you go to the top 50 world super computers Apple has two spots and Windows none.

    I don’t get it?

  24. I like MacNN forums. The help there is pretty good.

    Window switcher – switching to MacOS should be pretty painless, but since the approach that Apple takes is sometimes slightly different than Windows, it can be a bit disorientating.

    Of all the suggestions, clicking on the Finder icon works best for me. I use that more often than expose. But the cool thing about MacOS X is that there are usually more than one way to do things.

  25. Love all you new Windows switchers…welcome to the fun club. No depressing stuff here, you just left all that behind!

    As for quick Finder window opening, I use a wonderful free app called Quicksilver.. keystroke, and type the one or two letters of the app and enter to open. Very fast and very powerful, huge number and range of activities taken care of by keystrokes.. have fun.

    Just a user but more info here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quicksilver_(software)

    By the way, did they tell you when you bought your Mac, that you need to convert 10 Winodws users in 6 months ” width=”19″ height=”19″ alt=”tongue wink” style=”border:0;” />

  26. The only people I see who wouldn’t want or need to switch to a Mac from XP would be the gamers who prefer to build their own custom gaming machines. Everyone else could switch to OS X. I think most gamers will be migrating to Vista since OS X does not cater well for gamers.

  27. “Ha Ha! You have to choose from 10 different versions of an operating system!” – Nelson

    “I’m so stupid, I’m so stupid, duh duh duh” – Homer Simpson, erm, Zune Tang, erm, Bill Gates…

    MDN MW “cars” – as in “Bill, go play in the street with the cars…”

  28. I was interested to see how many other pages were the topic of “vista woes”.

    Reckoned there might be a couple of thousand..

    Results 1 – 50 of about 1,230,000 for vista woes. (0.16 seconds)

    1.2 million!

    Microsoft have got big problems. No wonder Ballmer rushed back to the ranch and Bill Gates was so nervous.

  29. ” width=”19″ height=”19″ alt=”wink” style=”border:0;” /> Moving to the Mac would be the smartest choice. As Apple says in its advertising. 1 version of OSX does everything you need and for $129 it’s a bargain compared to $399 for the ultimate version you would need with Vista.

  30. Unix is the operating system technology of the future. Leopard will be certified Unix when it is released (it currently isn’t). That means OS X will be the most popular and sucessuful Unix operating system ever.

    Microsoft’s days are numbered. They will continue to bleed market share until their share holders demand change. Microsoft will be broken up and Apple will take it’s place as the market leader in technology and software.

  31. ” width=”19″ height=”19″ alt=”wink” style=”border:0;” /> Buy Mac and save yourselves the hassle and your money. 1 OSX client version does everything Vista Ultimate and Home does and it only costs $129 versus $399. Most of the built in software that comes with the Mac can do just about everything you need right out of the box. Try that with Windows and you will be very dissapointed.

  32. John C. Randolph

    Your right on….

    I’ve just read numerous posts from differents blogs with
    the “toys” reference.

    They can beat their chests about marketshare, (Apple actually measures itself against
    Dell 14 % and HP 17 % in hardware sales no OS use) but I don’t understand the toy analogy.

    OS X is closer to a enterprise OS (Apache, MySQL, JBOSS, Squirrelmail, Clam AV) then Windows.

  33. I use my Macs for evryday tasks-web viewing,recording hdtv shows,video conversion,etc.

    I occassionaly fire up my HP to play WoW with all the graphics bells&whistles; on. I also like to stay up to date on OS’s(which is why linux will be on it soon).

    I got the oem version of Home Premium for $119. Some slight hiccups-no driver for my sound card(there is but vista didn’t install) and no clear reason why my hdtv tuner did not work(fixed).

    Sorry to say it, but this is still beta software. Microsoft should have taken another year to get it almost right.

  34. From personal experience, the Mac has 50% market share among my friends and family. My point is that the often quoted market share figures include all comptuters, from ATMs to cash registers. I’d venture to guess that Mac’s home market share is closer to 20% than 6%, in the US anyway.

    So newbies, be rest assured you are not alone..” width=”19″ height=”19″ alt=”smile” style=”border:0;” />

  35. I would like to point out the the retail price for Windows Vista Ultimate (not upgrade) in Europe (at least here in Portugal) is 670 Euros or $866!

    see: http://www.fnac.pt/pt/Catalog/Lists.aspx?m=1&cIndex=7&catalog=software&category=sistemasOperativos&scategory=sistemasOperativos&categoryN=software&scategoryN;=&minIndex=2&pageSize=8&orderBy=pd_stockDisponivelFnac&products;=&template=Template Software

    It most certainly is better and cheaper to buy a Mac Mini than Vista.

  36. Well, I’d like to thank the windows person for introducing Windows+E. It’ll save me some time.

    I’ve had Windows on my desktop at work for 10 years or so. I never knew about Windows+E. This is a problem with windows, in that it has neat features that are non-discoverable. Unless someone shows it to you, it’s impossible to find.

    On the Mac, it’s more likely that only very obscure things are non discoverable. Some are obscure/difficult to remember (like capturing the screen or active window, which is easier on a PC), but they are discoverable because they’re at least in the help.

    The built-in help says: “To open Windows Explorer, click Start, point to Programs, point to Accessories, and then click Windows Explorer.”

    I usually have windows explorer in a toolbar, along with my frequently used apps (a la dock).

  37. @ Windows Switcher

    There have been many ways suggested from opening a new window in the Finder from another application. There are many solutions.

    For technical info about Macs and Mac OS X see http://www.macosxhints.com or http://www.maxfixit.com or http://discussions.apple.com/index.jspa

    there are others too, but those three are the best.

    The main reason why you cannot directly open a finder window from within another application, is because it doesn’t make any sense to do so. Apple human interface is such that it retains focus on the application at hand. If you are working in a document and want to save it, but find that you want to create an new finder window, the open/save dialog box gives you the option to do so. I know it may not seem intuitive to you, but you will get used to it. Afterall the Finder is another application.

    If you truly must have the option, you can assign a custom key combination within the Keyboard & mouse preference pane (maybe something like shift-option-command-N) However I am not sure if this will conflict with another process.

    You could also assign a (combination) button click to it on a multi button mouse. Or you could make an Apple script to do this and place the script in the dock, or just assign a key combo to launch the Apple script. Something as simple as:

    tell application “Finder”
    make new Finder window
    end tell

    Save the script as an application, name it something convenient for you, and store it anywhere you like.

    There are numerous 3rd party utilities that will assist you in this endeavor too. Good luck and have fun learning.

    zac

  38. About Switcher

    So basically, what everyone is saying, is that there is no single key combination to open a Finder window from anything other than the desktop? That seems kind of silly. Windows has that. Sure, you could chalk it up to some kind of “design ideology” wherein users “aren’t supposed to do that” but this user obviously wants to, and it seems like something that would be useful. The Save dialogue in apps is horribly inadequate, i.e. you can’t delete files with it. Sure, I could download and use one of those shareware/freeware programs to do things like this, but that seems an awful lot of effort to do something so simple, now doesn’t it? I can customize Windows up the whazoo with shareware apps too, but nobody ever brings that point up.

  39. Of course it’s true that almost all corporations use Windows for desktop machines (mind you, not for anything serious). And the reason is simple. The decision of which system to use is left to the experts in the IT department. They know that if they select Windows they will need 10 times as many staff than if they choose Mac’s. That was true even before MacOS X came along and now the ratio is even higher.

    Obviously they all have an interest in growing thier empire so clearly they would never choose MacOS X. Windows is so complex and hard to keep going that an army of techies is needed. I work in such a place and we have a break-away Mac group with no IT support. Strangely we have less down time…

  40. On a side note. Windows user ever since it started – but now i use a mac, i have less headaches and i am happier. While the Windows IT guys at work are always on alert and stressed out with updates and integration – are miserable.

    I wouldn’t say UNIX, LINUX, and OSX are just toys. But they certainly do the job.

    Hey, go ahead and buy Vista or XP, that’s cool. Go ahead and proclaim, we are top dog and brag. We Mac users are getting our work done faster, better, and more efficient without problems.

    Oh yea, it is good that only 5% – 10% of the world are mac users, seriously. I thrive on others misery.

  41. * Apple key = Windows Key = Apple key
    Backwards 7 = shift key = cmd key
    Windows Key N opens finder
    Apple OS X 10.3.9 Windows Keyboard
    F11 for clear windows or widgetts
    F9 for spaces
    Desktop Manager for cube effect
    Alt Tab for scrolling windows

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