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A lifetime inferiority complex is finally coming to a head. Bill is gonna go postal.

Wow! Gates has lost it completely. The end is nigh.

Gates has truly lost his mind, my friends.

Microsoft needs to put out a patch for that bug up Bill's ass...

What a retard. Gates, concentrate on giving away your ill-gotten gains to Africa. You don't belong in this business.

The Emporer has no clothes.

Great take MDN! Lying bastard.

I love this guy. He talks about the 90% of the Windows users as if they CHOSE Windows!!!! He claims Windows has the market share it does people because people CHOOSE
to have Windows!!!

If you have a Dell or HP computer, you have NO choice but to get it with Windows.
Does Dell offer Linux? ( Redhat or Ubuntu? ) People are scared stiff to change from what they know, Windows. I think this is why MAcs are slowly edging in on the market. Because some people are confident enough to make that switch.

This guy needs to be challenged much more often in interviews.

MDN please set up an interview with this clown.

Too late to shut the gates... the Jobs is done

Gate: "We made it way harder for guys to do exploits."

Umm, sure, so hard all I have to do is talk to my computer. Great!!!

"Gates: You can go through and look at who showed any of these things first,"

Please newsweek DO IT in a follow up story.

Please!!

Would love to have seen the interview. And the irony of Bill bringing up Allchin, who probably just bought his Mac for retirement.

Karma may be a bitch, but it's something that only Mac users appreciate, as our OS truly has Karma.

I once dated a shitzu who had this same inferiority / persecution complex.

Like Gates, that bitch was always taking credit for things she didn't really do.

Ehhh . . . maybe it was de viruses talking.

When I first read the Bill Gates quotes, my initial response was a desire to debate and debunk his statements. But as I read further I gained a new perspective. I'll admit that I'm not objective because I am an Apple fan. But tell me, doesn't Gates sound openly bitter? He's supposed to be responding to comments comparing his produt to the Mac, but instead his unreasoning hatred for all things Mac is the message he's sending.

I'd be interested in the thoughts of those who are not Mac fans (which I'm unlikely to find on this forum): Are Bill Gates comments so openly hostile that he loses all credibility?

This guy hasn't lost his mind...his responses totally show just how really affected he is by the Mac and Steve Jobs and all the questions regarding Apple. This really bothers him, seeing him ramble on instead of just answer with a professional prepared answer. It used to burn me up seeing M$
ignore the fact that Apple even existed at all, but now it is obvious...and Billy knows the numbers...that Apple is really strong.

"Every single day, they come out with a total exploit, your machine can be taken over totally."

Wow. Dude is at the breaking point.

They're coming to take me away, ha ha!
They're coming to take me away, ho ho!

...you know the rest

Poor old Billy Gates seem to suffering from old age and severe memory loss - poor boy...

Maybe he should go back to his padded cell and start counting all his billions again, just to make him feel better again.

Boy - is he seriously screwed. Just goes to show, all the money in the world and he still cant afford a decent shrink!

>bizarro balmer wrote: If you have a Dell or HP computer, you have NO choice but to get it with Windows.

Uhhh... if you buy a Mac you have NO choice but to get OSX.

So.... what's your point?

Bill, if he was a real pro, could have sold lots of copies of Vista and increased his sheep loyalty by simple saying..."Apple? Yeah, those guys occasionally come up with some good stuff...we like those guys", but at the same time refer to them as if they are small potatoes. That would be smart. Instead, he let his bitter passion out of the bag...big mistake...pooping doesn't sell more copies, it steps on people's pride, comfort zone, and investment.

Quite funny to watch him squirm while being pressed about AAPL.

Bill, the game is up. You're just a nerd who got lucky, and your luck is about to run out.

R.I.P. Bill Gates.

MPC Guy: Neither statement is true.

If you buy a Mac you can install Linux, Windows or Mac OS X on it (plus others). With PCs you can't install OS X, so you have less choice.

Bill Gates has been in a state of denial since 1984.

Talk about superiority of the Vista is confirmed by the cartoon in the Ottawa Citizen dated February 2, 2007. ottawacitizen.com (this won't bring up the cartoon)
It's set in the store with a poster on the wall that says Windows Vista Has Arrived! The customer is looking at the iMac in the computers section, and says: Boy, Bill Gates and Microsoft are so innovative! That new Vista Interface on that Computer is Georgeous.

Salesman: Um, That's a Macintosh Running OS X.

So: if even the Citizen is running cartoons like this, right after Vista has hit the shelves, even the masses are going to get the message that maybe they should a would a could a bought one of them there Apple thingmes, eh?

P.S. Ottawa is the Capital of Canada. That's near the Nation of Quebec.
P.P.S. Bill Gates, who has never seen the ubiquitous Apple advertising, must be finding them there teevee interviews are becoming tiresome for sure.

Simply pathetic. Microsoft's usual practice in full light. Is it the state or mind at Redmond nowadays? Vista's not doing well? Does it hurt Bill? Now imagine what Steve «monkerdance» Ballmer might have to say...

The Howard Hughes reference in the MDN take was hilarious.

MDN has lost its mind

How does he (MDN) knows that Gates has seen the commercial, Billionaires have people to wipe their ass for them, Gates would not dignigy Apple by wasting his precious time watching derogatory ads.

I'm a Mac user since 84 and would love to see the demise of MS but MDN has lost its mind in their pursuit of gossip

zerO,

Is that your IQ?

Don't forget to contact MDN for your engraved bridge in Brooklyn.

Give Gates and rilfe and a bell tower and watch out.
He is totally totally out of mind.
People who babble like that are usually put away somewhere.

So Macs are being completely taken over every single day are they? I'll give the benefit of the doubt and not call him a liar, I'll assume it's true. Why has this not been in the news at all? Why are people not yelling it from the rooftops that Macs are in no way secure, that if you want security to use a windows machine? It's just crap. We all expect people to talk up their own products, to talk down about the opposition, but that's just absolute crap.
If that was happening why would the month of apple bugs have to report such, lets face it, minor problems?

@zer0, get real. Any CEO, COO, CFO, or the like that does NOT stay informed about what the competition is saying/doing re: his product is NEGLIGENT in his duties and should (must?) be removed from said position immediately!

GOT IT?

Or are you saying that BillyBoy G is just that: NOT IN CONTROL OF HIS OWN SHIP!? Keep in mind, oh ill-informed one, that the Swinging Gates does (do?) not relinquish control of his vast empire until this summer. Ipso facto, HE'S STILL IN A POSITION OF AUTHORITY, and being (supposedly) ignorant of ANY affront to his business's reputation or product quality is DERELICTION OF DUTY! Got it?

Consider yourself educated.

Bill "...Nowadays, security guys break the Mac every single day. Every single day, they come out with a total exploit, your machine can be taken over totally. I dare anybody to do that once a month on the Windows machine"

Is it me or is Bill the Dill living in an alternate time-space-continuum, dimension, world, universe thingy-ma-bob?

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Men in white coats please report to Redmond.

That guy is a turd-munching, snake-licking, ball-sucking, ass-clown.

'Nuff said.

Wouldn't you just love to see a debate between Steve and Bill. On the one side is Steve, calm, cool and collected, and on the other is Bill, squirming in his seat, flailing his hands about, trying desperately to convince you that a single word he is saying is true?

someone dared, mr gates. if you make your computer talk to itself in a nasty way, it'll delete files off your hard drive.

and i love the way he used the january month of apple bugs to demonstrate his non-point. of course os x has flaws. have they been exploited in such a fashion that MY computer is at risk? NO. and the same goes for everyone who uses a mac that has even the SLIGHTEST bit of common sense. "oh look! leopard screenshots obtained from a completely unknown source! wait, it's an executable file? hmm, maybe it's a self-extracting zip or rar. oh wait, now it's asking for my password? RED FLAG!"

vista MAY have stepped up security (time will tell) but it did so at a great cost in usability. just ask anyone who's had those dialog boxes pop up several times just to move files from one place to another.

i'm not an apologist for either camp. i really wanted vista to kick ass so i could use my high-performance PC for gaming, without all the headaches that XP brought with it. i was honestly looking forward to vista. their might be hope yet, but i'm not holding my breath.

gates is pissed, and it's because he sees that people are finally starting to realize something. it was illustrated pretty good in pirates of silicon valley, when jobs told gates that apple's stuff was better, and gates said it didn't matter.

IT DOES NOW, WANKER. people are starting to finally realize what shit they've been putting up with, and lots of people are switching. just yesterday i convinced a friend of mine who had been holding off from trying macs because he didn't think he'd be able to do everything he can on a windows pc. i showed him that yeah, you can, and often times it's less frustrating and confusing.

and an aside: if it's any testament to apple's style and long-lasting appeal, both my friend and others have wowed at how attractive my laptop is, and thought it was a new laptop. it's an 867mhz tibook.

mw: normal. gates ain't normal in the head if he believes even one word of the tripe he said in that interview.

>pog wrote: If you buy a Mac you can install Linux, Windows or Mac OS X on it (plus others). With PCs you can't install OS X, so you have less choice.

So it's Apple's fault for limiting choice then? They've made it illegal to install OSX on non-Apple hardware, even though the ability to do so is there.

Thanks for the clarification.

razer - i'd love to see that. i'd PAY to see that. =)

mw future - hopefully we'll see that sometime in the future!

MDN's take is extreme and filled with hatred of Gates and the company he created. I agree with every word of it.

MW: late, as in: It's too late now Billy boy. Apple is wolfing down your lunch.

"Nowadays, security guys break the Mac every single day. Every single day, they come out with a total exploit, your machine can be taken over totally."


That deserves a wow. It's not like he can't afford anti-psychotic medication.

The first war was won by MS. OS War II starts now just in time for Bill to learn shuffleboard.

Who cares what he says, the Windows' actions speak for themselves. Virus, malware, long startup times because of viruses and malware, 50 dialogue boxes just to set the clock, etc.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=eFdm4PxRWd4

I've NEVER had my Mac compromised. Gates is delusional.

Strikes me that it is Apple doing Microsoft an enormous favour! Everyone just about knows that OS X is a far superior system. Everyone just about knows that all Microsoft can do is badly copy what OS X did years ago. Microsoft must be eternally grateful that Apple doesn't enter the real field of combat by refusing to release OS X for use on PC boxes. It's astonishing that the company who are internationally recognised as the true leaders in 'quality' operating systems declines to play ball in the major league - where they'd very likely clean up over night. The argument that PC box design would force OS X down to working at Windows level is an historic one which no longer holds water. Dells boxes may look aesthetically crap, but their guts can't be so very different from the Macs these days - especially since Apple migrated to Intel chips.

Is Apple the warrior who refuses to fight, preferring to be a big fish in a small pond?... or just waiting for the right moment to strike?

Come on Apple!

Unbelievable...

and the sad fact is, many people that hear it will believe it, not knowing any better.

I've got to agree though, he's really feeling the pressure from Apple to talk the way he's talking...

Do you feel in 2010-2011 Microsoft will be back with the next big one?
Absolutely. We'll tell you how Vista just wasn't good enough, and we'll know why, too. We need to wait and hear what consumers have to tell us. We don't know that, otherwise, of course, we would have done it this time.


As Steve Jobs said: You can't just go out and ask people what they want, by the time you've build it, they want something else.

Skate to where the puck is going to be, not where it has been.

Gates: "We made it way harder for guys to do exploits."
Yeah, right. Now when you can tell your computer to screw itself it will be harder for all of those non-English speaking hackers to take control over MS OS. Oh, geez, that's a hurdle.

I bet that you can make Vista use it's voice synthesiser to say few words and it's done. That means that you can send an email to Vista to tell Vista to screw Vista. Wow.

"Nowadays, security guys break the Mac every single day. Every single day, they come out with a total exploit, your machine can be taken over totally."

"Do you want to go back to the original Mac and think about where those interface concepts came from?"

Perhaps we should all <i>politely<i> email Steven Levy and ask him to do a follow up article that fully explores these points.

Gates has obvously been pushed over the brink, but in all fairness with respect to his Apple advertising comment, he was asked if he had seen the Mac ad about installing Vista. To this he replied that he not seen IT. He never stated that he'd not seen ANY of the Get A Mac ads. I don't think MDN parsed his words accurately and their take is off base. No need to reach so far for reasons to criticize Gates interview. You could write a book analyzing the psychosis exhibited in Gate's replies.

"Bill Gates is a liar currently trying to buy his way into heaven with ill-gotten gains. He's also a vile, weasely dweeb with a massive, yet never-so-richly-deserved, inferiority complex. Steve Jobs has masterfully pushed Gates' every button and set the stage for interviewers to do the same which has obviously driven the nasty little bastard completely, utterly, and totally out of his mind."

Whew, you need to seriously get a life, and some major therapy, as soon as you extract your head from Steve Job's intestines.

dude wasn't kidding when he said the Wow Starts Now.

Wow ...

MPC Guy, you are wrong! You can run Linux, Windows, and/or OS X on a Mac. Just because an OS is pre-installed does not necessarily mean that it is the OS one must use. All that needs to be done is add your OS of choice to the Mac and delete the other if you want a mono-OS Mac. With a PC you have a choice of two OSs, Windows and/or Linux. It is obvious that a Mac provides uers greater flexibility.

This guy has mastered revisionist history. In what universe did MS innovate anything? The interface, the search, the 3d flip thingie. The upside down and backwards interface, the transparency and drop shadows. Widgets.

They are too busy copying to do anything original. Too bad the majority of people will not know that these technologies have been around for years with a better execution.

Apple: visionary
MS: groping in the dark

I don't normally get angry about this kind of thing...but Gates has gone over the line here. I heard him lie on the Today show and again on the Daily Show and it's got to stop.
I think an ad, citing sources, needs to be created that will let the public know who's lying and who is telling the truth. Until then we can all expect a barrage of lies from Microsoft.