“Our look at the upcoming ‘iPhone 6s’ continues today with a discussion of new internal components that are expected to be inside Apple’s latest smartphone,” Mark Gurman repots for 9to5Mac.
“In addition to expected changes such as a Force Touch display, upgraded camera system, and new Qualcomm LTE chip for up to twice-as-fast data speeds, the next iPhone will likely include updated NFC hardware, fewer and more efficient chips, and new flash memory that may nonetheless remain at a 16GB minimum capacity,” Gurman reports. “These conclusions are based upon new images showing a prototype of the next iPhone’s logic board, as well as a joint analysis undertaken by 9to5Mac and Chipworks.”
Gurman reports, “It appears that Apple could launch its next iPhone in a 16GB starting capacity, serving as an option priced below higher 64GB and 128GB options.”
Read more, and see the many images, in the full article here.
MacDailyNews Take: Obviously, 16GB is for a certain target market, one that can live in the iCloud. The problem with that model, however, is that inexperienced buyers and inattentive resellers foist 16GB iPhones on people who really cannot manage to live in the iCloud and therefore could end up hating their iPhone (it won’t update, it’s perpetually packed full and therefore runs poorly, can’t take any photos, can’t download day more apps, etcetera).
Apple needs to ask themselves if the benefits of having a 16GB iPhone (“low” entry price and upselling platform for higher capacity iPhones) are worth the risk of disappointing those who are likely buying their first iPhone. For Apple, the quality of the user experience should always come first.
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There is always pop or the kids to pass on a 16 GB iPhone to, so all is well.
16-GB iPhone 6S, another Tim Cook ripoff.
This fruitcake has no shame.
First the Apple Stupidwatch, then the Macbook with a new body, yesterday’s speed, and a single port.
And now, since 2009, the 16-GB, ripoff option remains.
Time for a new CEO.
In summary (many posts, over and over)…
The watch is stupid. Pout. Stomp.
You’re stupid. Pout. Stomp.
Tim Cook is stupid. Pout. Stomp.
MacBook is stupid. Pout. Stomp.
Gays are stupid. Pout. Stomp.
Wow! What amazing insight! And backed with such rock-solid logic. Thanks for your wonderful contributions, ohrandy.
And speaking of Cook, I can’t stand the tutty-fruity colors that are in IOS and OSX. They look like they were designed to appeal to young girls.
I’ve been holding off on upgrading my 4s to IOS 7 or 8 and I’m sticking with Mavericks. In addition, I will NEVER buy a MBP with just one port as well as cheesy integrated graphics.
He’s no Steve Jobs, not even close. Jobs was a genius.
The only MacBook with one port (actually two, if you include the headphone jack) is the new MacBook 12″. There is no MBP with only one port, nor has there been any rumors of such a product.
Enjoy your stay in Retroville.
So go into accessibility settings and enable gray scale. That should do the trick.
Where is the substance in an analyst claiming “. . . and new flash memory that may nonetheless remain at a 16GB minimum capacity”, when there is obviously only the mere speculation being presented? It is obvious that these claims about the electronics to be included are purely speculation from the use of the phrase “may nonetheless”. This strikes me as a pre-emptive FUD commentary.
And, yet, that unsupported rumor triggered an immediate outpouring of hyperbole from the masses.
And we have your usual useless fucking comment. Queeny!
App thining in iOS9 should help dramatically
32GB is minuscule added cost. MDN’s take on this is the correct one
While I agree that 32GB should be the new base level for iOS devices (and should have been implemented last year), there is a cost. The material cost difference between 16 and 32GB is probably not that large at the volumes that Apple deals with, but the revenue loss from the loss of $100 upgrades to the mid-level iPhone would be significant.
16GB. On an entry level iPhone that costs $700. Same storage as what the iPhone 3GS started with. In 2009.
Even Samsung was smart enough to start their latest S6 phones with 32 GB.
I don’t know what Apple thinks they’re doing, but they’re certainly not “delighting” this customer.
Forget the low end morons, I want a 256GB option.
There’s obviously enough room in the case.
Don’t tie me down to no cloud partner!
Why not a terabyte?
You might want to be careful about calling others “morons,” and then using a double negative in very your next sentence.
^in your very
Releasing 16Gb is stupid.. Apple should chuck that and release 64GB and 128GB. why pull stupid and silly stunts when they are going to make money anyways.. Penny wise pound foolish.
Excuse me, but you are dissing the most profitable public company on earth, exactly why? I’d say they are doing great without you.
It takes customers to be profitable my friend. Don’t become a Microsoft or McDonald’s who will both become a figment of the 21st century’s imagination.
Microsoft was the biggest tech company for years, with millions. Didn’t mean they were doing right by their paying customers, not by a long stretch
That’s the difference between Apple and MS; Apple cares. Just because a company offers a Chevy Cobalt doesn’t mean you have to buy it, there is a upward choice that a customer can purchase.
@silversnatch
Using that same logic, I suppose you are the ‘entry level’ human being. If a person wants more intelligence, they can always ‘upgrade’ by bursting through their fanbois bubble and getting a real world education.
😝
Fanboys should take the time to read what MDN said. All of my iOS products are 128gb & cellular. 16gb iOS products are next to useless. The facts still remain that the customer is always right and pissing off customers unnecessarily is a wonderful way to go broke.
Oh, yeh. Sooooooooooooooooooo many customers are pissed off. That’s why sales are so bad. /s
Umm hum. Microsoft gave you upward choices too: Windows Home, Home Premium, Professional, Enterprise, and Ultimate.
For your car analogy to work, you’re talking about trim levels on the same car model, not buying different models from the same maker.
Extending the flaky analogy further, it’s like the Cobalt’s base trim only having enough gas tank capacity to go 160 miles between fillups, and the next trim up the only difference is a larger tank that it lets you go 320 miles… for $1000 more, when you know the different tank sizes only cost the carmaker $50.
It’s like selling a car with only first gear. It will “work” and get you from point A to B, but not very practical.
The thing that amazes me most about the “Apple Can Do No Wrong Debaters” is that it’s absolutely no skin off their noses if the consumer gets a better product for the same or less money (aka Moore’s Law).
16Gb iPhones are crap. Plain and simple. 32Gb. Defending 16Gb iPhones is crazy talk.
You can have the GM made Cobalt (8g memory) I’ll stick with my GM made Escalade (128g memory).Are you able to understand now?
I understood your poor attempt at analogy perfectly. It is you who isn’t able to understand your analogy is fatally flawed, despite my schooling you. There’s no point discussing things further with you.
Philip Morris is also one of this country’s top earners along with gun manufacturers. I don’t see much of the public being pleased with there products.
I wonder if you’d jump off a bridge because everyone else was doing it too. Maybe you should try silverbells
Poor, very poor.
I’d say the public is very pleased with the products of gun manufacturers. Sales are way up and background check numbers are too.
Naw, that’s baloney. Having a base level of 32GB is more than sufficient for many, and will keep them out of the problems with only 16GB. In this case MDN is correct, and Apple is being short sighted and making themselves look like money grubbing schmucks. Apple has always acted like friggin’ extortionists when it comes to storage and RAM.
There is a point in the editorial. What will be the ideal entry level capacity? 32 or 64?
Apple increased the mid and top ends and dropped the price for those. This saved me $100 X 4 phones. The 16GB entry and lower 64GB pricing was shear genius. If they go to 32GB, then the next step will be 128GB. This leaves way too much money on the table. We might see a 32, 128, 256 for iPhone 7, but not the 6S/plus.
“This leaves way too much money on the table”
The moment money and pandering to Wall Street investors becomes the overriding concern at Apple, instead of delighting customers, Apple ceases to become a company worth defending, or deserving of our loyalty.
Who cares. My mom has a 16gb phone and doesn’t know the difference. I’m going 64gb no matter what. So I’m getting there for an extra $100 no matter what the base memory is.
MDN I partially disagree with some of your misperceptions on any connection between an iOS device’s storage capacity and iCloud. I go with 128 GB on all my iOS devices and still largely live in iCloud. I assure you that any amount of iCloud storage has absolutely nothing to do with your capacity for apps and local storage. Never having to deal with storage, because my apps and local storage float at around 80 GB used, is a huge benefit of the larger size. While I have over 200 GB of files in iCloud, which I access through those apps or solely from my Macs. You cannot compensate small iOS device storage with iCloud storage, you simply can’t. It stores completely different things. They work together, not in exchange for one another. I suspect your need for more iCloud storage or a larger capacity device would go hand in hand as you become more integrated into the ecosystem.
For once i agree with MDN’s take!
My thoughts:
1. Since its inception, Apple has taken the cheap-ass route with RAM in all its products, as evidenced by the countless, never-used SIMMS and DIMMs that adorn my Christmas tree.
2. Whatever base memory is offered—now and in the future, apps and the OS will bloat to surpass the usefulness of that capacity.
3. xrandy is a dick.
All my life the computer industry has been plagued by the crowd who wants something for nothing. This is a phone you’re going to keep for 2 to 4 years. Is 50¢ per week too much to pay for extra memory? I’m so tired of the something-for-nothing crowd whining and throwing tantrums about Apple charging perfectly reasonable prices for its merchandise. If you really can’t stand paying for something, and you really, really have to have it for free then please, just shut up and go buy an Android phone.
“something for nothing”?? Your argument is invalid. You might have a point if the iPhone were free or low cost, rather than the most expensive mainstream smartphone out there.
$700, despite what you think, is not nothing. And an extra 16 GB flash storage is not worth a $100 bump, not in 2015.
We have the right and obligation as Apple fans to call Apple out if they’re even thinking about a base of 16 GB for the 6S
First of all, you’re incorrect. The Galaxy S6 32GB is $800. The 6S at 32GB would be the same price. Second, you need to take into account TCO. Two years down the road what is the Galaxy worth versus the 6S? Third, if you can’t afford another fscking $100 for something you buy every 3 or 4 years you really do need a 2fer phone from Samsung. $100 will barely buy dinner out for two people, and the extra $100 financed over 24 months amounts to about $4 per month. How much do people pay for a coffee drink at Starbucks? People meed to get real and stop expecting everything for free.
A very simple search on T-Mobile and AT&T websites show you are wrong about the 32 GB Galaxy S6 price. They are $680-$685, a far cry from $800:
http://www.att.com/cellphones/samsung/galaxy-s6.html#sku=sku7520249
http://www.t-mobile.com/cell-phones/samsung-galaxy-s-6.html#Black-Sapphire
And while they do cost more than the base iPhone 6, and therefore it’s not *the* most expensive mainstream smartphone anymore, the mere $30 difference makes them directly comparable.
And no one gives a good god damn that it’s spread out over 24 or 48 months, it doesn’t change the fact it’s still gouging given the actual component cost. The fact you’re okay with and even defending this makes me feel pity for you.
Even if your price is accurate, your argument is nonsensical. And “gouging”? Sheesh.
Quibbling about a $100 here or there is just silly, especially for something that you probably use as a central work and recreational tool.
The same kind of silly price comparisons involving one factor happened all the time with Mac and Winblows. E.g. “Mac should have more MHz for that price”
With a Winblows computer v Mac,
Or iPhone v Samsung,
Compare the WHOLE THING.
If you’re not happy with what you see, why not buy a Samsung?
If you don’t want to, why not? Maybe because the iPhone AND ITS ECOSYSTEM is way, way better.
Don’t be an idiot. The iOS+Mac ecosystem of course is better, THAT’S WHY WE’RE COMPLAINING. And ecosystem has NOTHING to do with available on-board storage space.
An extra $100 for a component that costs Apple less than $5 in bulk? That bumps up the pre-tax price by 15%? Yeah, that’s gouging.
The difference is still about the cost of a nice dinner out for two, spread over 2 to 4 years. I recommend you buy the Samsung phone. It’s cheaper (in every way) and that seems to be your only consideration. Have fun with the malware.
Just take the camera out of the 16GB version. That should prevent anyone who shouldn’t buy the 16GB phone from buying it.
My employer (a Fortune 200 company) took over paying the bills for my mobile phone a couple of years ago. I continued using the 64GB 4S that I already had up until last fall when I was eligible to get a new one.
Unfortunately, my best options were a 32GB 5S or a 16GB iPhone 6. I went with the 6 for the additional features.
I had tried everything possible to get our IT department to get me at least the 64GB model, including offering to pay the diff myself. No dice. I still get a monthly statement showing my usage level, even though they pay the bill.
So now, my short-sighted company is paying an additional $50/month on average in data charges due to regular iTunes Match streaming, rather than paying $100 or $200 ONCE to get a reasonable amount of storage.
So far, this decision has cost the company about $500. I wonder how many other employees are having a similar spike in data use?
Yes, I know the employer-provided phone is for for biz use, but it’s also a perk of employment. If you don’t prohibit music streaming and block it, people are going to do it and it will cost far more in the long run.
A lesson for anyone considering the 16GB option…it’s a short-sighted choice that I wish Apple would drop (though I do get the marketing rationale
behind it).
For this Logitech c920 assessment lets take a look at the webcam itself.