MacDailyNews Take: Hoist that SOS flag before you jump overboard, will ya, Jorma?
Goldman continues, “The announcement comes on the heels of Monday’s resignation of Nokia’s smartphone business chief Anssi Vanjoki. The revolving door of executives started turning on Friday after Nokia said it had hired Microsoft Corp. executive Stephen Elop to replace Olli-Pekka Kallasvuoits as chief executive.”
MacDailyNews Take: SS Nokia. Dispersing Rats.™
Goldman reports, “Ollila had served as chairman for 14 years and oversaw the company’s rise to the top of the mobile pyramid. But he also witnessed the Nokia’s recent inability to keep pace with rivals like Apple… Shares of Nokia (NOK) have tumbled by about 70% since the iPhone was released in the summer of 2007.”
Full article here.
MacDailyNews Take: You could walk across the Gulf of Finland today on the backs of ex-Nokia rats.
I’m sure there are more rats to follow…
The only question is whether Nokia will find a way to compete in the smartphone market, or if they will stick with basic feature phones. The market has moved so fast, and Nokia has been so slow to respond, I wonder what they can do…
Wait a second- he still has AT LEAST another year and a quarter before he goes (and they didn’t say WHEN in 2012 he was leaving, so he could be there another 2 years.
I guess they’re in no rush to get rid of him after all.
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Nokia might invent an invisible smart phone
It’s a good move. If they want to succeed they need to get rid of the high up people who think in the past.
Mark my words Microsoft will announce a partnership with Nokia who will phase out symbian in favor of Windows 7 giving Microsoft instant play time in mobile communications and access to vendors around the globe.
It is the smart move
Nokia will soon announce a new product/platform that for some uncanny reason resembles the product/platform of a company in CA.
The question is how many soon to be ex-Microsoft execs will be hired to try to steer the rudderless, motor-less, broken-sailed ship toward Redmonds.
Chairman Ollila could have picked a better time to leave than on the back of OPK. And disappointment aside, what kind of employee is Anssi, if he puts his personal desires ahead of the company’s needs?
Isn’t this very moment, when Nokia needs as much leadership as they’ve ever had? What kind of leadership are Anssi and Ollila exhibiting by bailing, now?
Nokia’s smartphone share has come down from over 60% a couple years ago to about 40% now, but that’s a false distinction since most people who get Nokia S60-based smartphones are not even using them like a smartphone. Might as well call Japanese feature phones, smartphones, since they use them more like smartphones.
One last thing, the next thing you should expect from Nokia is rumors of either a purchase, a partnership, or a sale. That’s what desperate companies do, like putting a bandaid on a gushing artery. I expect noises about Microsoft sniffing about to start soon. Nokia is not worth that much more than Yahoo! was when Microsoft was trying to buy them. Two companies without a coherent market strategy is a formula for a hookup.
Apple should buy Nokia for it’s patent portfolio and sell off the low-end no profit phone division to some chump on the street corner (Microsoft, Motorola, Samsung, Dell, HTC and many others would kill for the Nokia carcass even if it were just a howl dry husk) Apple could recover part of the Nokia Purchase cost. Apple should close the rest of Nokia after finding and transferring all the talented engineers and people to Apple.
MDN becomes an uglier site by the day.
Now all you have to do to earn the epithet “rat” is to be in competition with Apple: I’ve suspected for a while that MDN has totalitarian leanings, but isn’t that a little strong.
Just as the constant crowing over Adpbe employees being ingrates is only really true for those employees who were around when Apple got Adobe moving by becoming the first major volume purchaser for PostScript RIP in a LaserWriter. Given that Apple gave up on making printers some while ago and Adobe became a diversified software business, the only thing that’s annoying about Adobe is their constant whining about Flash on iOS.
Apple is a big company, but it will never employ everyone who wants to work the high-tech world and – as we know from companies like PA Semi – some of those people are very talented.
But, of course, that doesn’t suit MDN’s rabble-rousing “for us or against us” narrative.
Its obvious Microsoft are forming an alliance with Nokia and after filling the driving seat with a seconded executive are reshaping the Nokia board as well.
Far fetched?
How much would it cost Apple to buy Nokia? It would settle all those pesky patent lawsuits…
Welcome, Adobe astroturfers!
There was once a time when Adobe truly was an innovative company. Sadly, Adobe today is a shell of its former self. Yes, the company you love is much larger, but its product strategy and performance is in utter disarray.
Don’t believe me? Why not visit the Adobe User Forums for Photoshop CS5: http://forums.adobe.com/community/photoshop/photoshop_macintosh
It’s almost a riot in the forums. Users who spent over $1,300 on Creative Suite 5 are furious. Printing, scanning, digitizing tablet interfaces and filters are broken. CS5 crashes from memory errors. Of course, you can take the side of Adobe official corporate apologist Chris Cox who dismissively blames all of the problems on Apple. That might be worth exploring were it not for the fact that Mr. Cox also says the very same things about Microsoft Windows in a similar Windows version CS5 forum.
Perhaps you are thrilled that the CS5 suite is built on top of – get ready – Flash-based coding technology in a large-scale code rewrite of the suite. The result is nothing less than a complete train wreck.
The fact is that Adobe, in its hubris, decided it was smarter than everyone else. Instead of using common programming tools for either OS-X or Windows, Adobe went its own way. The results with CS5 are a disaster. If you ask the former Macromedia inventors of FutureSplash and its offspring, Flash, about what Adobe did to their multimedia creation once Macromedia was acquired, they cringe, and explain that Flash was never remotely designed for the functions and direction in which Adobe took it.
Don’t get me wrong. Flash does interesting things, but it was designed for desktop Macs and PC, not for the Web, and certainly not for hand held devices like the iPhone.
When I see how far behind Photoshop has become to where it should be at this stage of its life, I become angry. To see Adobe put a great application like Freehand in mothballs, and not even try to have the company’s programmers and systems analysts try to create new code for Illustrator that adds many of its features, I become frustrated. Adobe used to be a company of great inventors like John Warnock or Chuck Geske. Today, it is overrun by MBAs who have no clue what good code looks like.
Personally, Adobe could use a wake-up call from any company that could mount adequate competition. But I know many companies that are so furious over Adobe’s current offerings that they have no plans to upgrade. So while MDN was being uncharitable and blunt, in this case, I agree completely. Mac users were essential to Adobe’s early success, and through the history of Adobe, Mac-based customers have been steadfast supporters.
No more. When a company like Adobe turns its back on its users, resentment mounts. Count me among the angry.
@@MCCFR (Jeez, get a name ferchrissakes),
I’m not an Adobe astroturfer, merely because I find MDN’s petty sophomoric triumphalism both pathetic and misplaced.
MDN behaves as if it were in some way a party to Apple’s greatness. Guess what, it wasn’t. And – no matter how lame the products of Nokia, Adobe or any other aspiring competitor – the people who work for those companies don’t deserve to be called rats or ingrates.
Also, what has MDN ever created of note: an app that some people find unreliable and a web site that performs really badly at times.
On another topic, you’re right about CS5: I’ve had apps before that allowed me the time to make coffee during load. But not from seed. Also, it’s a UI disaster.
There, that’s a critical comment without being disrespectful or personal.
@MCCFR
“But, of course, that doesn’t suit MDN’s rabble-rousing “for us or against us” narrative.”
Ok, I will grant that MDN sometimes gets a bit cavalier.. But do you actually read any of the articles listed here. These companies get real nasty towards Apple a lot these days. This is more tit for tat than being nasty.
Now since you love Adobe so much that even thought they took your money and gave you crap, that you will talk about them nicely, I say great for you.
But when a company takes that kind of money from me and we find out that they knew it was crap….. well that is not an oppps, its a crime. We just cannot prosecute it yet. 🙁
just a thought,
en
@MCCFR
Dude, chill the f*** out. MDN behaves the way it does because we like it that way. Anyone here who has used Macs longer than five years has had to put up with smack talkin’ sh*t from every competing platform. It feels good, really good, to rub it back in their faces.
——RM
Nobody can keep up with Apple. This is revenge come to fruition. SWEET!
wow another MDN “lovefest”!
I <3 MDN!
Macs rule. I parted with my $199 for my troubled iPhone. But I’m not that loyal I can’t see the trees….
Nokia makes an awesome handset. The specs are awesome.
No need for the name calling. Let the stock prices and market share gain speak for itself. Steve isn’t giving discounts for rubbing anything in anyone’s face. He’s got iPhone 5 to make and replace this antennagate issue and keep Google under his foot where he’s got them. (along with HTC)
Just appreciate the technology, and call a spade a spade.
I want the true techies to play both sides of the isle…. And stop quit acting like Steve left them something in his will.
(written with my iPhone with hush-case)
LordRobin,
I’ve been using Macs since 1987. I’ve lost jobs because of championing the Mac. I’ve lost contracts for championing the Mac.
Despite that, I’ve managed to maintain my civility.
You might like the way MDN writes, but it makes the Apple community look petty and chippy which then feeds back into that entire “cult of Mac” thing that MDN claims to despise.
Well put MCCFR. Seems like you are a true Mac Fan.
Even though I agree whole heartedly(on MOST of what you wrote), you must remember that we are not in a different forum. It’s a Mac forum. And the blinders are on. You know why they keep blinders in a horse?
I read to stay updated, and once in a while make the mistake in reading opinions. Kiddies are writing, hardcore mac enthusiasts, technologists. Gotta expect folks to say some things that just are opinions. Gotta chill out.
So…you can’t expect any heavy percentage to really have issues… Negative at least.
So just a note to consider.
Ok, now Nokia MIGHT start becoming somewhat functional in the smart phone sector and a competitor to Apple. I’ve been saying it for a loooooong time: the main flaw in Nokia is within it’s corporate heritage. As long as Ollila is calling the shots, nothing has or will change.
They should have let him go a couple of years ago.