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“As expected, the terms would focus on wired controls but would sacrifice fairness in wireless to reach the goal,” Electronista reports. “The FCC would be the only official body and would have authority to ban both blocking or throttling legal traffic as well as limit prioritization of certain content, but only on wired networks. Both wired and wireless networks would have a requirement for transparency, which would require any carrier to clearly disclose how it shapes traffic and other limits on the network. Wired services could have special services such as IPTV, but these would have to be clearly separated from general Internet access so they aren’t used as forms of cheating the neutrality rules, the two companies said.”
Electronista reports, “Google’s motivations behind the deal have already been called into question. The search firm is heavily dependent on Verizon for Android phone sales and would stand to lose significant market share and mobile ad revenue if its carrier partner backed away.
Read more in the full article here.
Read “A joint policy proposal for an open Internet” by Alan Davidson, Google director of public policy and Tom Tauke, Verizon executive vice president of public affairs, policy, and communications here.
Pure Evil. Boycott Verizon & Google.
Smells like rotten teen spirit.
“Don’t be evil. Well, just a little bit is OK.”
This is funny. Google and Verizon think they are so clever with a BS compromise like this. Everyone knows that “over the air” internet traffic is the sweet spot. In the short future the biggest chunk of online advertising will be in the mobile market. No one will care about land lines for internet.
Despicable. Google used to be like Apple in that they wanted to take on the world to make it a better place. Now they’ve got dollar signs in their eyes and have so much power that they’ve lost their grounding. Not to sound dramatic, but they’re the next evil empire. Microsoft was nothing compared to what Google will be.
So, Google is staking its future on the wireless space? Interesting.
In other words, Google could charge the cable companies for access to Google Search, YouTube, and its cloud services, but they would remain free to wireless partners like Verizon.
large wireless cell provider and seller of android handsets gets together with maker of android handsets to exclude wireless internet from “net neutrality” and I should feel good?
Google motto “Do Evil Till It Benefits”
Don’t trust either one of them.
Funny how the “free crowd” that usually backs everything google isn’t in an uproar about google’s shenanigans.
Disingenuous.
@samiam
Actually, OTA wireless isn’t the sweet spot, no more than OTA television broadcast is a premium.
The sweet spot is FiOS, for which there are three tiers of service, including up to 50 Mbit/s down and 20 Mbit/s upload. The future is fiber optics, not wireless.
Google is creating a red herring by embracing the wireless spectrum just to divert the FCCs attention away from the machinations in the wired space.
Didn’t we just hear how Google and Verizon were absolutely not in talks over net neutrality issues?
Fuck them both!
Myriad public services will be available from the wall-garden of the wireless internet, however all of the content will be out of copyright, or contain zero DRM.
In other words, a generic internet saturated with paid advertising to offset the cost. Think of the days of AOL, before they opened it up to third-party browsers. It was an internet that was brought in-house solely for its consumers.
We will never see a wireless DVR!
Why not just leave the internet be! Stop regulating crap. Let the parents have the discipline to enable parental controls and monitor what THEY want their children to watch! This whole FCC thing is stupid since they do nothing but block crap. LEAVE MY TECHNOLOGY ALONE!
Google whores out Android to cell manufacturers who lap it up blindly. Open source advocates become Google’s lapdog and now the curtain rises on the true motivation of Google’s generosity which is absolute control. Seems easier than I thought it would be to get people to take the mark of the Devil (I mean Google).
Everyone seems to always forget that Google is nothing more than an ad agency. They make their money selling advertising. I’ve never known an advertising agency that had the public good in mind.
@emmteeprod
You sound like a free market kind of guy who doesn’t want government regulating stuff like the Internet. Well the free market is a wonderful place if you have referees to make sure everyone is playing fair and not screwing the little guys (that’s you and me). Without a referee, your broadband connection will start to resemble cable TV in terms of choices and costs. That is not a pretty picture I’d say.
@emmteeprod:
You’re missing the point: this isn’t about the FCC blocking users, this is about the FCC blocking Internet companies from blocking users.
Without net nutrality guarantees, there’s no reason Comcast can’t slow, limit, or eliminate certain internet traffic to your computer. That’s scary.
@84 Mac Guy
It’s not all about free market, it’s about having that regulation, but letting the wire be wires, let the content be content. I don’t like watching movies on TV because it’s SO Regulated, Regulate, but regulate where it’s needed.
@zmarc
Ok, limit my connection, but don’t charge me for going over if your limit is too low (at&t, Verizon). I guess I misread some of the information, I’ll have to go re-educate myself…
I like how Google title everything they publish “Blah Blah Blah Open Blah”. Another brick in the Google Matrix.
Google: “Lets do Evil”. Verizon: “We already are”.
Verizon doesn’t exist in my world already, and from this day forward Google is officially out of my world as well. I’ve even changed my default home page to Yahoo. I know I’m just one person, but I would like to think the butterfly effect would come in to play here. I’m just so tired of people who think they can control parts of my life.
FCC just say no to Google and Verizon.
It’s not a bad list overall. Item 6 just needs a little editing:
http://themacadvocate.com/2010/08/09/a-little-editing-to-item-six-of-goorizons-net-neutrality-framework/
When two monopolists plot together like this, you can be sure the average Joe is going to get royally screwed. I look for government to keep these evil bastards in check, but government is in bed with these clowns, so don’t expect the FCC to do anything….
Time to take down Verizon. Where’s Sen. Rockafeller. He’s got time on his hands doesn’t he?
With a simple click and the selection of a drop-down, Yahoo just became my official search engine.
Once they get their filthy little claws in they will not let go. You are a fool if you think otherwise. And if you do not do your part to fight this you will be completely responsible for the devastation to equality and the freedom of information that will absolutely follow. George Bush said “No new taxes.” Hitler promised that he would not invade the rest of Czechoslovakia. And the Greeks brought a big goddamned wooden horse to the Trojans. This the beginning of the end of times, people. Mark my words. You and every future generation will regret any inaction in this matter. If you do nothing, and by doing so willingly hand the keys to the kingdom over to these monsters, you are selling your very lives and the lives of all future generations over to them. And you will have no right to cry for mercy when it happens. At all.
Believe me… they will not stop once they get started.
DO YOUR PART !!! STOP USING GOOGLE IMMEDIATELY !!!
You have been warned.
fsck Google…
fsck Verizon…
fsck the FCC…
FSCK Genachowski!!!!! in the back door!!
that jerk needs to be fired, now!!!!!!
MaWo: ‘form’. As in, “FCC’s is bad”.
I have no words for this other than, “@#$%!”
NHL
With a simple click and the selection of a drop-down, Yahoo just became my official search engine
how do I change from google to yahoo?
This is unbelievable! This bunch of “Do No Evil” predators have decided to throttle the internet for everyone, unless it’s with Verizon and Wireless access. After all, who owns the largest wireless network in the U.S.? Verizon.
What a bunch of crap! Who the hell does Google think it is? What the hell happened to my favorite company? The company that wanted an open internet, free from throttling?
My mistrust of this company started with the new Gphone, which for some uncanny reason became an iPhone clone within a year after its release. What happened to the keyboard?
Then came the China fiasco. Sergei expounding on his parents and other Russians barely avoiding the Gulag in Russia and why Google was withdrawing from China on human rights issues. Then what? Suddenly they’re back when the stock drops 100 points on a lack of earnings potential.
Then there is the accidental eavesdropping on open wireless access points by the picture taking vehicles. Who believes that Google came forward on their own volition? Or was it a whistle blower or someone else who would have come forward?
Now this! They are trying to get the FCC to go along with some hare-brained scheme that will benefit them and Verizon only! If the FCC cannot see past this one, then there is no freaking justice. Of course the cable companies will go along with this, it helps them.
I cannot wait for the lawyers at EFF to stomp all over this. Today, I literally dumped all of my Google stock and options. I am in the process of disengaging myself from their services, including Gmail, Documents and all web services. My company will discontinue Google’s web offerings at the end of the quarter. We have had enough! What we are seeing is a company that is willing to sell its soul to make money. If they do this with net neutrality what will they do with my personal information that they have been collecting?
All of this time, I thought it was Microsoft who were the enemy. As of today, I now know who the bitch on the lawn really is. “Do no evil” my ass.
R.
I’m a parent. I have 3 kids. This is akin to 2 of them getting together and laying out a framework on how to parent them.
This whole thing reeks. I expect this sort of thing from Verizon, but I am extremely disappointed in Google. Not surprised by Google but extremely disappointed.
I cannot even stomach to think about or even listen to either of these two companies. It is disgusting on how transparent it is that this whole concept is concocted in such a way that the biggest benefactors are the two companies who drafted this “compromise.”
“F” Verizon!
“F” Google!
(The “F” may be substituted for “fail” but it certainly not what the author intended.)
It just gets F7kng worse with this company. Google this tasty morsel from today’s WSJ:
“Google Agonizes on Privacy as Ad World Vaults Ahead”
This, taken from a confidential Google document termed “Google Vision Statement”:
“Google can build a data exchange/trading platform allowing individual data owners to transact with others directly, or openly sell their data to any bidders…”
….This from the “Don’t be evil” gurus.
Yeah Right.
It’s only evil when it doesn’t benefit you. This is capitalism. this is the corporation governing the common man. The government – whol is suppose to represent us – no longer does. It represents big interest. I used to laugh at movies like Rollerball and Soilent Green. I don’t anymore.
Google your going to get yours …….. And verizon I will cancel my contract very soon.
@zmarc
“Without net nutrality guarantees, there’s no reason Comcast can’t slow, limit, or eliminate certain internet traffic to your computer. That’s scary.”
Comcast started limiting the pipe to 75g per month of download here in MN.
I wonder what Leo Laporte, the so-called Users’ Advocate will think about this evil scheme. For the past few episodes of his podcast programs, he has been flogging the Antena-gate horse to death by continuously repeating the same old tired tale about how evil Apple and Facebook are, and how harmless Google is. He promised that it would the last time he would flagellate Apple on the altar of Google’s goodness but he just couldn’t stop but carry on with the same complaint episode after episode. Just show how a pimp and whore some people can become.
…ANIMALS ARE EQUAL BUT SOME ANIMALS ARE MORE EQUAL THAN OTHERS. …
Animal Farm – George Orwell
Google has finally turned EVIL.
GOOGLE EVIL
VERIZON EVIL