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I'm not alone.

Feb 01, 10 - 10:41 am Comment from: breeze

And when Steve has you in his sight Eric, you are toassssssssssst

I'm ready for a new phone in May... can't wait.

Feb 01, 10 - 10:43 am Comment from: flappo

adobe sucks

elements 6 is the biggest pile of junk i've ever used

Feb 01, 10 - 10:50 am Comment from: MacSmiley

Adobe has been dragging its feet since Apple moved to the PowerPC. No Cocoa version of Photoshop. No 64-bit version of Photoshop for Mac like there is for Windows. Ugly resource-hogging AIR apps instead of native.

And Flash is an abomination. Videos and games and ads were one thing. But encouraging web developers have Flash take over the basic functions of entire websites (menus, buttons) was just plain disgusting.

Apple and Adobe practically owe their very existence to each other back in the day. It's really a shame to see the relationship deteriorate so badly.

Feb 01, 10 - 10:52 am Comment from: MacMan

Didn't anyone have the guts to ask Steve why there is no webcam on the iPad? That would have been MY first question...

Feb 01, 10 - 10:56 am Comment from: MaLvado

I confirm the little birdie is accurate.

Feb 01, 10 - 10:59 am Comment from: breeze

Adobe is dishonestly and blatantly in denial. Any Mac user their tech support with issues or complaints about Flash will be lied to while Adobe's arrogant tech support specialists (hah) pretend that they are not aware of any Flash problems, accuse Apple's OS updates for the problems and/or waste you time on hold for ages only to return (if they do) and promise to get back after looking into your problem further.

This a routine practices daily by Adobe over the last two years at least and I know of at least 6 long time registered Adobe users who have had bad experiences of this sort.

Adobe has become nasty and arrogant to us Mac users to which they owe their entrenchment to.

Feb 01, 10 - 11:00 am Comment from: breeze

MacMan:

That's because you're not really thinking

I would love to see a webcam in the ipad, but where would it go? The top? The side? And if you put one front-facing but not outward-facing, what kind of crap would people be giving Apple then? You would have to put 4 cameras to make everyone happy. I think Apple feels confident they can get away with not pleasing everyone and still being profitable and successful.

Feb 01, 10 - 11:10 am Comment from: Sir Gill Bates

@ MacMan,

Did you ever consider the idea that people really do not want to see your face? Just a thought.

By the way, what's your opinion of glossy screens?

I hate adobe, I don't use their products anymore. They have the worse customer service. it's true what jobs said " they are lazy" . they just want to make money. I can live without adobe products and I'm a photographers. Apple needs to release Aperture 3 please

Sometimes MDN's predictive takes scare me because they're almost ALWAYS right... and way before anyone else ever says it.

Webcam??

Don't you already have one in your iPhone, iMac, or whatever?

Feb 01, 10 - 11:18 am Comment from: Jubei

Why do you think the guy was kicked out of Apple board? Google insider at Apple are being purged out. Yeah you can guess what they were doing at Apple while pretending to be such a good friend and partner to go against MS. Too bad Jobs didn't see that coming fast enough to kick them out earlier.

Feb 01, 10 - 11:19 am Comment from: John Crawford

"Don't be evil" is a good mantra when recruiting idealistic graduates.

How do you say that in Chinese?

Adobe has been... for a long time. They bought the POS PageMaker and eventually realized they had to dump it where is was living for a long time, the trash and had to start all over with InDesign which is just as lame as PukeMaker was...

Webcam ?

For the 10000000th time....

It doesn't work on your lap.

Feb 01, 10 - 11:36 am Comment from: Ankh

No flash? No problem. I just bypass those websites that are flash only. Their loss.

Feb 01, 10 - 11:38 am Comment from: DogGone

Adobe is like M$. They own large pieces of a market and don't have to try hard to keep it.

The same thing happened in the 80s with Apple and look what happened then. It took a second coming to get them out of the doldrums.

Sooner or later Apple will lose their lead in the MP3 player. However they have found a useful avenue in the mobile business to keep the innovation going. The iPhone has several years of rapid growth ahead of it. The iPad could also open up new areas for growth.

I'm waiting for the Apple video phone. Not too sure if this will be in the same format as cell phone or will they take another leap like watch phone, built into glasses...

WHY GOOGLE IS IN THE PHONE BUSINESS:

As I understand it, Google makes the vast majority of its money on ads. Mobile is the new horizon and definitely the future. Apps, especially, since they have the potential to take the place of websites. For many, that potential is already realized.

Therefore search is in danger. Not full scale. Not now. But a company has to look 5 - 10 years out and anticipate. Google is anticipating that their search business is in danger.

And their search business will be in danger when people start searching for apps instead of sites. And when they start using specialized apps for specialized searches instead of general search.

They realized that the platform is the threat. iPhone is the future. iPhone is operated by Apple. So 1) Their search business is under threat by Apple's app store; and 2) Their regular search business is in serious danger of being completely subject to the whims of another company. If Apple decided no Google on iPhones Google would be toast in a future-sense. Because iPhone is the future.

So as much as Google loves and believes in Apple, they have to take steps to protect their business. They believe in what they are doing and want it to continue and to succeed.

Google has no choice but to try and keep a foot in both camps.

On the Apple Side they will work as hard as possible to be nice and to seep into as many niches on the iPhone as possible. They will work as hard as possible to become an essential part of people's iPhone experience. Think "Google Voice Search App" in this sense. A way easier way to search.

On the Non-Apple Side they will work as hard as possible to create a competing Mobile OS that they control. And they will work as hard as possible to make that mobile OS so amazing that it will become essential to people.

Keep in mind, this isn't Junior High School. No one is anyone elses BFF (Best Friend Forever). This is business. Google is doing exactly what they must. This resistance is necessary for them, whether or not it is futile.

Feb 01, 10 - 11:42 am Comment from: Predrag

When you use the iPad in a most intuitive way (sitting back in an armchair, with the device in your hands like a magazine), webcam makes no sense, as it would be seeing your nostrils , some forehead and a lot of the wall behind you. Even if they tilted the angle lower, you'd still have very poor viewing angle on it, unless you hold it up in front of you (gorilla arm), or prop it up on a table/desk. This quickly eliminates majority of potential users. Apple simply doesn't do half-assed. MacBooks (pro) have iSight in the display, so that when you do your iChat (or Skype), the other person will see you looking DIRECTLY at them, which makes it normal and natural. If anyone remembers, 6 years ago, when Apple introduced iSight FireWire web-cam, it was designed to sit on top of a monitor; not on the desk, to the side. And the direct viewing was the main reason (Steve himself explained it in the keynote). They won't put a webcam just so that there's a webcam, if the videoconferencing experience can't be proper.

That said, if by next year too many people end up clamoring for a webcam on this device, Apple just may consider figuring out a way how to make webcam a reasonable experience on it.

@Ubermac,

I'd argue InDesign is a bigger POS than PageMaker

Feb 01, 10 - 12:07 pm Comment from: deepdish

Yes I am a Mac fanboy.

But Adobe has been slowly declining over the past 5 years.

This is sad. I use to be an Adobe fanboy too.

God how I hated/loved Quark. Then I switch over to InDesign.

Adobe use to be pro-mac. Then they changed.

I hope Adobe rediscovers their roots and wakes up.

Apple need to launch a search engine.
We need some alternative to google.com. Frankly, i am just getting worried how much very personal information google has on me through search engine, gmail, etc. The only reason why i am still using google because it is better than other search alternatives. The moment Apple will introduce search, I am gone!

Feb 01, 10 - 12:15 pm Comment from: kbbchi

With regards to a webcam, right now it would probably bring any cellphone's network to its knees. A year or so from now; very possible. Also, I saw a patent from Apple a few months ago where camera tech was incorporated into the screen itself as layer.

The Apple ad from 1997 continues to be at the core of Steve Jobs' philosophy...

"Here’s to the crazy ones. The misfits. The rebels. The troublemakers. The round pegs in the square holes. The ones who see things differently. They’re not fond of rules. And they have no respect for the status quo. You can quote them, disagree with them, glorify or vilify them. About the only thing you can’t do is ignore them. Because they change things. They push the human race forward. And while some may see them as the crazy ones, we see genius. Because the people who are crazy enough to think they can change the world, are the ones who do."

It's not just Microsoft and Adobe getting lazy, but it's all of America. We have completely lost any scientific or technological edge; our kids are some of the world's dumbest. Perhaps worst of all, we're too lazy to even care.

Apple is the last great research and technology company for consumer products, and our brilliant nation continues to demean them for reaching beyond outdated policies and "standards". We have clearly moved from being the home of the free and brave to being one of whiners and bitchers.

Wave the flag and beat your chest all you want, but it isn't getting our outsourced jobs back.

You can be one of the social lemmings...
...or not.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OYecfV3ubP8

Feb 01, 10 - 12:54 pm Comment from: TheMacAdvocate

One of the major differences between Apple and M$: Apple doesn't open up product announcements to retarded input about features and actually thinks its features through. Then it introduces a finished product. M$ gives you an FM tuner in its portable media players.

The camera is a case in point. With a phone, it's a handy on-the-go device; with a desktop or laptop, it's ideal for stationary video chatting. Why would you include a camera on a device for which you'd have to hold it parallel to your face to make it useful?

This isn't a case of "drinking the kool-aid" and thinking that anything SJ omits from a product is the will of God and automatically a great idea: this is common fscking sense.

If you think the iPad is flawed because it needs a video camera, you don't get it. You should probably look into a Zune HD.

<<MacMan
Didn't anyone have the guts to ask Steve why there is no webcam on the iPad? That would have been MY first question...>>

Do you think Steve would have gotten a no-contract $30 unlimited, or $15 unlimited deal with AT&T;if he had allowed video chat capability on the iPad?

VoiP already competes with cellphones, but that is a battle that has already been lost by carriers. Video chat hasn't, so, expect small steps to continue to be taken in turning wireless carriers into dumb pipes. You can't expect it all in one go.

Feb 01, 10 - 01:47 pm Comment from: ChrissyOne

Adobe *is* lazy. They can do so much better then they have been.

Feb 01, 10 - 01:55 pm Comment from: ChrissyOne

One thing I have to say, though, is that Adobe isn't Anti-Mac like a lot of you people think. There isn't a "Mac Shop" like Microsoft has - everyone uses Macs all over the company. Most of the developers I know run MBPs because they can run all the software they like on them for both platforms, just like we did in Tech Support.
There isn't a bias toward the Mac, there's a bias toward change.

Feb 01, 10 - 02:05 pm Comment from: justme2

Adobe is pretty much acting like any monopoly; they figure they've got the market sewn up, and when they do have competition they buy it up and either kill it or change it beyond all recognition. I've been hoping that Apple might develop an "Aperture Lite" to fill in the gap between adjustments that could be done in iPhoto and the heavy-duty action of Aperture.

(And this post would be a heck of a lot easier to make from an iPad instead of an iPhone!)

Feb 01, 10 - 02:20 pm Comment from: Jose

The cabal against Apple is led by Linux. Linux hates Apple and Google loves Linux. I'm sure Jobs is aware of this.

Linus Torvalds produces a decent kernel and thinks the world should align behind it, without any real vision other than a anarchistic free-for-all.

The Linux community is envious that they don't have as charismatic a leader like Steve Jobs. If they did, it would be Castro or Stalin.

Feb 01, 10 - 02:31 pm Comment from: Mac-nugget

@ChrissyOne
I agree. Adobe makes a lot of there revenu from there Mac side of business, why would they be anti-Mac?
Now as far as development goes, they have not delivered in the way they had in the past. Ever since the merger with Micromedia, I think they lost some of there focus.

Dreamweaver is not as good as it could be. A lot of GoLive ideas where good and should be implemented within Dreamweaver. The same thing can be said about LiveMotion and Flash.

Fireworks was released in a premature state of alpha bugginess. They patched it to get some stability, but a lot more work needs to be done to bring up it's quality.

The Flash player for the Mac must be rewritten. It is the most unstable part of using a Mac today. It is the only cause of Mac freeze-ups that I have experienced. Sure, programs crash on occasion, but never bring the whole houes down like I have seen Flash do.

Now to be fair, Microsoft has kept with legacy code for ever, so it is only natural that dual platform developers have had a more stable coding environment giving the perception of having better written applications. But now, Apple has settled also and all transitional elements have been concluded. Now we will start to see the benefit that all these changes have brought forth.

Did anyone ask him why I can't listen to Pandora while surfing the Web on the iPad? Did they?

Feb 01, 10 - 03:05 pm Comment from: ChrissyOne

@ Mac-nugget

They're just too bogged down with the bean-counting. It's all about costs savings and letting good people go. There are a lot of great folks around who still care about the products, but it's hard to get anywhere with that attitude.

@ A. Turing. Bravo, and well spoken. I'm glad that there are a few thinkers out there.

Feb 01, 10 - 04:21 pm Comment from: Ron Robertson

I used to be an Adobe fanboy myself, but with the elimination of FrameMaker, and the poor implementation of Mac features on the things they do have, I've soured on them. I use them now because I pretty much have to, but never talk about them to anyone else or encourage anyone to buy their stuff.

I think "lazy" is a pretty good description of their product releases. They need to have a fire lit under them, or most likely, get rid of the bean counters and get someone with vision running things.

--Ron

Linux could use a leader like Jobs. But, they're not jealous.

The Linux community is addicted to the chaos.

Google can love Linux, at their own peril.

Feb 01, 10 - 04:44 pm Comment from: The Other Steve

Anyone who has waited for a PhotoShop update,

and waited, and waited,

only to find what you were waiting for, native PowerPC support, Coca, 64-bit, or any number of features available in other programs for years, won't be included in the Mac version till the NEXT paid update,

understands just how lazy Adobe can be.

Feb 01, 10 - 04:58 pm Comment from: Hm...

I got ticked at Adobe when they made "fill out then print, but can't save" the default action in a PDF form. If I could, I'd smack the idiot silly who first thought that one up.

There is no other option than Apple buys Adobe and kick out the shitheads. Would be the best buy of the century.
Oh yeah: and kills the Windows-division

Feb 01, 10 - 05:02 pm Comment from: Hm...

@ A Turing

You're wrong. "Our kids are some of the world's dumbest" isn't true. Our kids are as smart as any other country's. The problem is that our kids are uneducated. And the critical issue is that too many parents don't care or *want* it that way.

"Lazy"?

This is pretty typical of businesses when they have little or no competition. We study this, we know this, the question is why don't these companies continue to fall into the same old trap?

It was once said, "they are to busy counting the money".

I still use Adobe products every day and have done amazing things with them but sense the purchase of a certain company, I'm not sure there is a reason to keep pushing. For those Adobe employees out there, come on girls/guys, give us something great!

Feb 01, 10 - 05:54 pm Comment from: Military Police

Poor Adobe, where is the love???

For my part, I like InDesign, Photoshop, Illustrator very much. Couldn't care less about the other Adobe apps. They perform well on my Mac Pro. No routine crashes or other problems to speak of. My only gripe is that they sometimes bog down, and up comes the beach ball cursor. My only other advice is that you need at least 2 widescreen displays due to Adobe's palette attack; but this I have, and it works well.

I've tried about every popular alternative that there is (Quark, Pixelmator, boatloads of vector apps, open source apps), but the options are so wimpy that, even though they are cheaper or sometimes free, it's not worth it and so I go back to using Adobe. Someone please make a compelling alternative, and you will be in business.

Feb 01, 10 - 06:39 pm Comment from: ChrissyOne

I'm just dreaming of using Lightroom on a big (20"+) touch panel. It could be brilliant if they do it right. I'm tired of working on my photos on a typewriter.

@Military Police
"Someone please make a compelling alternative, and you will be in business."
Wel, there was Macromedia.
But we all know what happened to them.

I would dearly love to see someone new come in with some worthwhile products to compete against Adobe. I always liked FreeHand better than Illustrator and still miss it.
Dreamweaver & Flash were better under Macromedia too imho.

Feb 01, 10 - 11:29 pm Comment from: Mac-nugget

I thing ChrissyOne assessment is spot on. The are no longer concerned with the delivery of the best products. The bean counters have taken charge and we all know what happens when the creative people are undermined by the sales people. I also think that there is simply no competition in any serious way. Illustrator, Photoshop and to en extent InDesign have not real competition. They are the only game in town.

Feb 02, 10 - 01:09 am Comment from: silverhawk

"multitasking capabilities of iPhone OS (used by iPhone, iPod touch and iPad) will be "expanded" with the release of 4.0."

Maybe R2 can finally listen to Pandora and watching pwrn at the same time.

Pagemaker was great. That's what I learned on and it was easy to pick up.

@ A. Turing All I can say is amen, having worked in public schools for 4 years, this country is in such deep shit--not even counting Obama's shit hole he's digging for the country,we have maybe 15-20 years left at the most

@A. Turing--I love that apple add, if all you out there read that and it doesn't get your heart pounding, your blood racing and make you want to go and do something--then your dead, and so is this country