Rush Limbaugh spoke about Apple CEO Steve Jobs take on U.S. public education and unions today with quotes from April Castro’s article for the Associated Press:
In Austin, Texas, last week, “Apple Inc. CEO Steve Jobs lambasted teacher unions Friday, claiming no amount of technology in the classroom would improve public schools until principals could fire bad teachers.” He compared skrools to businesses with principals serving as CEOs. “’What kind of person could you get to run a small business if you told them that when they came in they couldn’t get rid of people that they thought weren’t any good?’ he asked to loud applause during an education reform conference.”
The bottom line here is when he says, “I believe what’s wrong with our schools in this nation is that they’ve become unionized in the worst possible way,” conservatives and just plain people with any common sense have been saying this for decades, but could they get put into the headlines of a story? No. Only if you’re a big lib, only if you’re a big Democrat, do you get applauded for this kind of talk.
I am happy and proud to be on the same page with Steve Jobs. The way to put it is, I’m happy and proud he’s on the same page with me. If he finds out I agree with him, he might change his mind. But I mean this is classic. This is an AP story. Do you know how many average, ordinary American people have been saying this? Do you know how many political candidates on the Republican side have been saying this, and when they say it, they get tarred and feathered and the NEA comes after ’em? Jobs says it, “Wow, why, we must really think about this. Why, there might be something here that we haven’t considered before,” blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
Full transcript here.
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Meanwhile incompetent Rollins on leaving Dell only gets $5M:
Dell’s executive compensation committee has proved the cruelest of masters, handing ex-CEO Kevin Rollins a piddling $5m on his way out of Round Rock. The company today revealed the embarrassing payout in a SEC filing, detailing its parting of ways from Rollins.
The former CEO will stay on until May 4 as an advisor and continue to receive his salary and benefits until the final axe falls. At that point, the severance package – if you can call it that – kicks in with Rollins taking five $1m installments through April 15, 2008.
You’d have to go back to the Carter years to find a top executive taking such a slim exit deal.
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2007/02/21/rollins_exit_slap/
I think the biggest problem in renumeration today is the discrepancy between executive pay and that of the ordinary worker.
I’m tired of people like Rush and those at FOX (faux) NEWS, trying to divide our country with the old tired propaganda, that Liberals are worse than the Taliban !!
Our country was founded on the presumption that ALL points of view are valid, as well as necessary.. if we are to keep our nation healthy ..
Imagine, if EVERYONE thought like the neocons !! ..
So.. the next time you feel like blasting a Liberal … or a Conservative, for that matter … stop and think for a moment …
We need both !!
uhhhh its called balance !!
“Steve should have known to keep his mouth shut. You attract the bigots and idiots and drug addicts if you’re not too careful.”
Yeah, like people named ‘Ugh’
“The problem is when Rush says it, it’s pure ideology. He’s just saying it because it’s the Republican talking point. It doesn’t apply to every single instance (which is the downfall of ideologies)… in this case, there’s something to it.”
so when two people say the same thing, only the person YOU like is corrct? Even if it is a “Republcan talking point”, then I guess you must support the republicans?
“The problem is, where do bad teachers come from? There’s a shortage of teachers as it is, firing them would give you a WORSE problem. Better to have continuous teacher traning, and better feedback mechanisms.”
There is no teacher shortage at all. I personally know of two people that have been waiting for an opening for a couple of years.
“Maybe if we paid them more…
Oh wait, that’s a liberal point of view. Doh!”
Actually Rush, Hannity and others have been advocating higher pay to attract higher quality teachers for years.
California took up this issue with a popular vote on this very issue, and it failed.
Seems that in the long list solutions to improving public education, this issue was far down the list.
Maybe Steve Jobs was in Paris on election day.
RMN said: I hear Bill Clinton is also a cigar man.
Yes, he is. I once shared a cigar with him. His knowledge of cigars is vast!
If I was Steve, I’d do a 180! He has to know that if Rush agrees with you, then you are in trouble…unless they are on the blow.
Hey! I agree with Steve and Rush too!
“Well, so long as Steve doesn’t start abusing painkillers and indulging in questionably legal sexual practices in the Caribbean we’ll be OK.”
Instead, he will get bjs in the executive office and drive young women off bridges and elave them to drown.
Yu’al know this also goes for colleges and universities….in fact I have a very good friend that teaches at a very large university in Oklahoma and when he got there, all he could talk about is tenure…(did I spell that right)….and he and I went to another very large state university in Arizona, where we constantly were amazed at some of the professors that were not doing their jobs…they just plain sucked, but they couldn’t get rid of them….now, he is one of those and sits back and does nothing…this just isn’t right and needs to be corrected….nothing political here at all…
but the old saying is something like this:…”those that can, work, those that can’t, teach”……how true it is….
Please God, never assault my eyes again with a headline containing the name Steve Jobs with filth like Limbaugh!
We ought to teach English only in all the schools in the USA for a start. Then Eliminate the 14th amendment, which was meant for the children of slaves, not so that pregnant women could sneak into the country and drop their baby to get citizenship—-ridiculous.
Steve should have known to keep his mouth shut. You attract the bigots and idiots and drug addicts if you’re not too careful. Kinda like –
“Are you proposing censorship? I certainly hope not, we don’t need, want, or respect those who do not support free speech as well as the rest of the Bill of Rights! It’s obvious that you learned nothing about U.S. history, you pathetic bastard. If living in U.S. offends you, much less visitations to MDN, please leave, the door is always open. No one is forcing you to stay. Adios, asshole.”
“Where Mac news come first” – yeah, right.
“Ready, get ready, get ready, Stormtroopers comin’, get ready” – Ted Nugent
When Jesus returns and Mr. Limbaugh is seated on his right, you Darwin worshippers out to destroy America will discover Rush and Steve are right, and our school textbooks without a word of God in them will be burned in the Lake of Fire, just like you.
You’ll find out, and so will Godless Europe because it’s the second Roman Empire. Ronald Reagan destroyed the Soviet Union, and George Bush will destroy Socialist Europe and terrorism.
God bless Rush and Steve.
“MDN is renowned for its pro-bush stance. The fact that Rush is a Mac-head makes them giddy.
I love the site, but seeing that racist, draft-dodging, hate-spewing, hypocritical drug addict makes my large intestine want to leap up through my neck and throttle my brain*.
*All credit to Douglas Adams, another noted Mac-Head.”
LOL on the Douglas Adams quote!
Yeah, I’ve heard around these boards that MDN is pro-Bush, but in my ~2 years of being a Mac-user (and reading MDN), I’ve never seen anything that would lead me to believe that. Maybe I haven’t been paying attention.
Meh… it wouldn’t change my opinion of MDN if they were pro-Bush. As has been said numerous times… smart people use Macs.
Ben Dover… et al
I’ve taught in both elite private schools & public schools… elite public schools select who they teach and exclude those that may be “inconvenient”.
Private schools don’t attract better teachers, the worst teacher I ever met was at a private school.
The trouble with anecdotal “evidence” as claimed by right-wingers (or myself above) is that it comes out in the wash when it is applied to universal education, and that is what is under attack.
Vouchers are private school subsidies. Rich people get to shop at “exclusive schools” while the majority get to go to some fly-by night enterprise…
People don’t shop at Wal-Fart because they “want to” they shop there because they can afford to shop there!
Same for education; discount education means shoddy “products” resulting in mass produced plastic people who are taught about rules and how to consume.
“I pay for a private school” as I was reminded by one very angry parent ” not so my child can learn anything but so she can meet people of her own class…” My crime was to suggest that we offer a scholarship to one—note ONE—child drawn from a nearby poor neighborhood.
Needless to say, you know who won that argument!
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You see stuff like this on MDN….. BECAUSE
1) It is relevant that Limbaugh and Jobs can have the same thought.
2) Because the people who run this site ARE NOT stupid, Cool-Aid drinking Liberals. Radical liberalism is a mental disorder!!
3) And Limbaugh is wrong 100% of the time?…… And you, as a radical, liberal are right 100% of the time????
Oh… not to let Rush off the hook.
I wish he would stick that cigar where his intelligence shines… now that’s a realbuttal!
Sorry, I promise no more gratuitous idiot bashing
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You see stuff like this on MDN….. BECAUSE
1) It is relevant that Limbaugh and Jobs can have the same thought.
2) Because the people who run this site ARE NOT stupid, Cool-Aid drinking Liberals. Radical liberalism is a mental disorder!!
3) And Limbaugh is wrong 100% of the time?…… And you, as a radical, liberal are right 100% of the time?
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OH NO!!!!!! MDN, Pro Bush?? Could it be?? OH my God, You mean all of you Mac heads are not liberals? ALL and I mean ALL my friends are liberals. There for I only see my world as all liberal. With bigoted, raciest Republicans that I can spew my “hate” at. That Limbaugh he is evil and wrong 100% of the time!! I am right because I am liberal and I am progressive. I think I am so smart!!! Shit!!
The real problem is unions in general. At one time they were necessary. They’ve grown fat, lazy, greedy and corrupt. They are killing this country. Pick your industry or government agency. In another 10 years there won’t be an american car made in the U.S.
Sorry but Rush and Steve are both wrong. Their solution to the problems in education are far too simplistic. If only it were that easy – you cannot just fire all teachers and problems are all solved.
Teachers must be trained to be competent in their field(s) of instruction. This is how you get a much better teacher in the classroom. Paying teachers more would be nice, but that is not the only thing that needs to be done. Stop cutting their health care benefits as well, because that is a trend that is happening all over America. Who in the hell feels great about going to work when you know your employer is giving you the shaft? Think about it…
To get children to behave better in the classroom, parents should sit down with their children and explain a few things. eg. how to respect their teachers and elders – that would be a start. Perhaps then a teacher that is competent could teach a class without having to be constantly interrupted by someone who thinks its funny to be disrupting the teacher’s lessons.
We need the ability to get rid of school board members and principals that are bad as well, not just the bad teachers. Like I said in a previous thread… Teachers, parents, students, administrators are supposed to be in a partnership for schools to run well. When one part of this breaks down many problems arise.
School administrator pay really needs to come down when you compare their salaries with that of teachers. The gap is incredibly ridiculous. No school board member deserves pay reaching $200,000 a year, especially when a teacher has to scrape by on just $30,000+ a year. See the inequity in the school system?
TowerTone
“I love the site, but seeing that racist, draft-dodging, hate-spewing, hypocritical drug addict makes my large intestine want to leap up through my neck and throttle my brain*.”
Who said anything about Bill Clinton?
Well played, sir. Well played. Though, to be fair, and according to the infamous Lewinski dress, Clinton spewed nothin’ but love.
Oh yeah – I’ve heard Rush’s pet cause is the cleansing of the frayed educational landscape.
I love morons that hide behind Rush because he has a loud mouth. I’m a liberal democrat (because you all aren’t happy until youve labeled someone) and I listen to Rush for this simple reason:
If you filter all the self-rightousness out and the machine-speak (simple logic that makes everyone that does not agree with him wrong – he and O’Reilly have turned it into an artform) – then you will learn something about Washington.
Rush is the union leader of white collared conservatives. And like unions – who protect worthless minions who can’t protect themselves – Rush serves the same roll. Think about that for a minute.
However – I think this is Rush’s attempt to cross-over. He is bored and his audience stale. He wants to try new things. So jabberwocky-ing his way into the attention sphere of Apples audience is his cry for help.
He’s an idiot. And he obviously has company.
MDN puts a nice ass pic of Limbaugh but when it’s someone they don’t like they photoshop eye patches on their face.