On his program Thursday, Fox News’ Jesse Watters shared Apple founder Steve Jobs’ 1995 interview on what went wrong with public schools in America and brought in Hoover Institution senior fellow Victor Davis Hanson on “Jesse Watters Primetime,” the fastest-growing program in cable news since its launch on January 24th of this year.
Excerpts from Steve Jobs on Education:
I’d like the people teaching my kids to be good enough that they could get a job at the company I work for, making a hundred thousand dollars a year. Why should they work at a school for thirty-five to forty thousand dollars if they could get a job here at a hundred thousand dollars a year? Is that an intelligence test? The problem there of course is the unions. The unions are the worst thing that ever happened to education because it’s not a meritocracy. It turns into a bureaucracy, which is exactly what has happened. The teachers can’t teach and administrators run the place and nobody can be fired. It’s terrible.
I’ve been a very strong believer in that what we need to do in education is to go to the full voucher system. I know this isn’t what the interview was supposed to be about but it is what I care about a great deal…. The problem that we have in this country is that [parents] went away. [They] stopped paying attention to their schools, for the most part. What happened was that mothers started working and they didn’t have time to spend at PTA meetings and watching their kids’ school. Schools became much more institutionalized and parents spent less and less and less time involved in their kids’ education. What happens when a customer goes away and a monopoly gets control … is that the service level almost always goes down.
The biggest complaint of course is that schools would pick off all the good kids and all the bad kids would be left to wallow together in either a private school or remnants of a public school system. To me that’s like saying “Well, all the car manufacturers are going to make BMWs and Mercedes and nobody’s going to make a ten thousand dollar car.” I think the most hotly competitive market right now is the ten thousand dollar car area. You’ve got all the Japanese playing in it. You’ve got General Motors who spent five million dollars subsidizing Saturn to compete in that market. You’ve got Ford which has just introduced two new cars in that market. You’ve got Chrysler with the Neon…
We need to attack these things at the root, which is people and how much freedom we give people, the competition that will attract the best people. Unfortunately, there are side effects, like pushing out a lot of 46 year old teachers who lost their spirit fifteen years ago and shouldn’t be teaching anymore. I feel very strongly about this.
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See also: Steve Jobs & Rush Limbaugh agree: U.S. public schools are ‘unionized in the worst possible way’ – February 20, 2007
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Good thing he’s passed away or he’d be canceled…
Many teachers today aren’t capable of getting jobs in corporate America at $100,000 a year. We have too many morons teaching our children and nothing is accomplished.
teachers in my district on average earn 75k+ and many earn well over 100k. dont let anyone convince you teachers are underpaid, especially in new york state where the teachers union control the state. Full time hall monitor ( not a teacher) earns 52k for 185 days of work a year. the salaries are public record.
And they get Summer’s off!
As usual, Steve was right.
Just like Arizona with its new universal school vouchers – fought against tooth and nail by “unionized in the worst possible way” public school bureaucrats.
https://www.azcentral.com/story/news/politics/arizona-education/2022/07/07/ariz-governor-signs-universal-school-voucher-law-advocates-vow-fight/7827019001/
Yes indeed, Arizona another kerfuffle in the ongoing Teacher Union Wars.
Steve once again, succinctly focused like a laser beam, on the NUMBER ONE problem with education…
Correction: America has never been in the lead in medicine. You do not want to get hurt in America on vacation.
sure its in the lead in medicine but it is overly complicated in insurance. if you’re an American and you get hurt while you’re on vacation in America it’s not a problem receiving care since everybody has insurance. Now if you were Canadian or European or a foreigner without insurance or with your socialist medicine yeah you’re going to have a problem. That’s why if you go to a foreign country on vacation you simply purchase a rider for your health insurance.
Not as easy as that. The American health system costs are so high if you have a pre existing condition often you cant get travel insurance to vist the USA, any other country not problem.
BTW the American health system ranks last amongst wealthy coutries according to this survey – https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2021/08/05/global-health-rankings/
So does education, almost at the very bottom compared to 30 countries…
I’m not a huge Jobs fan, but he is right on here. The schools I’m at get about half a million a year per classroom. The classrooms look like they get 75 thousand. Vouchers would let all that money make it to the classroom.
Unions, sadly, are corrupt. They should be banned and the union thugs executed for treason.
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All that money going towards a classroom would make it possible for all of it to be spent on students. I’m also not a huge Jobs fan, but he’s right on here.
Sadly, AppleCynic and AppleBS were obvious students of the public school system. They may have even been students of the pubic school system.
This could be why they are so effed.
Proudly a product of the public school system, then private colleges.
If you went private, ask for a refund.
Guess what party has controlled the educational system for the last 4 decades??? You guessed it, libturds
It his you came to call us “elites” moron!
Too fucking stupid to form a sentence, huh?
Gotta admit you’re right. Between iPad autocorrect and all these ad delays, I need to be more careful.
Now if we could only edit, but you knew that.
Yes, you certainly are an elite moron, applecynic
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There is a new problem taking off. I work in IT at an education place and they hired a DEI person with a grant. Had an hour long training session on brainwashing you how you should think, pronouns, etc. Just heard this is going to be a quarterly thing now! If this is going on at schools and businesses our country is going down the tubes.
Sorry kids. You’ll just have to try harder to get a good education.
Yeah…Steve was always right.
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Money is a side effect of an education, not the primary purpose.
Jobs just wanted society to produce intellectual workers for him, because if he paid $100 K, they were worth a million.
Election fraud and voter fraud most affect school board elections, where victory or defeat can be measured by a few votes.
That determines a lot of the development of our youth.
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Steve was wrong about this. Data are pretty clear, overall, vouchers and charter schools produce no better results than public schools, and where they do it is because of the students selected not the product offered. There is also no evidence parents were more involved with schools. The key difference is in those who become teachers. Women had few options in the 40s and 50s, the best and brightest, today’s doctors, lawyers, executives, were forced to become teachers. The education system was able to exploit discrimination against women, and ride on the coattails of that exploitation.
No, Currentinterest IS wrong about this.
The liberal studies by liberal colleges are to blame furthering the narrative in DEFENSE of their public-school brethren. Period.
And the other classic mistake because you cannot find CREDIBLE and UNBIASED evidence, doubt you looked because it is out there – does not immediately translate to does not exist.
“Women had few options in the 40s and 50s, the best and brightest, today’s doctors, lawyers, executives, were forced to become teachers.” Again, opinion does not translate to fact. I’d like to find just one teacher that fits the description and ask how they were coerced and FORCED to work for less pay.
“The education system was able to exploit discrimination against women, and ride on the coattails of that exploitation. Huh?…
Not a chance Steve Jobs would be caught dead if he was alive today on fatuous Faux Newz.
The truth is no one knows. Exception: elitist know it all’s.
Venture a guess Jobs would reprimand SJW Cook for dragging Apple into politics against his personal philosophy (for the most part), or not.
This will cook some noodles out there. Suspect Steve would have his own show on Fox News Nation, to speak for humanity and against the INTOLERANT EXTREMISTS of today on both sides. Might include the squad that do not resemble the JFK Democrats.
One day taking the mantle by BESTING fellow liberal Bill Maher. Yes, one can dream on…
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