The European Union’s competition chief Margrethe Vestager on Friday warned Apple against using privacy and security concerns to fend off App Store competition, reasons CEO Tim Cook recently cited regarding the sideloading of apps from outside the Store.
Margrethe Vestager, European Commissioner for CompetitionVestager last year proposed rules called the Digital Markets Act (DMA) that would force Apple to open up its lucrative App Store so that users can download apps from the internet or third-party app stores in a practice known as side-loading.
Cook, speaking at an event last month, said the proposal would destroy the security and privacy of iPhones.
Vestager said she shares Cook’s security concerns. “I think privacy and security is of paramount importance to everyone,” Vestager told Reuters in an interview.
“The important thing here is, of course, that it’s not a shield against competition, because I think customers will not give up neither security nor privacy if they use another app store or if they sideload,” she said.
MacDailyNews Take: The ditzy, illogical, out-of-her-depth Vestager then went on to say that allowing COVID-19 positive visitors into nursing homes by eliminating health screening protocols would be just hunky-dory.
“The owner of the device should have choices.”
The problem with that is that enough dunces will do it and then sue apple when their phone is locked by ransomware, or the said dunces have their bank accounts stolen and they co-blame Apple. Apple still will have to pay lawyer fees even if Apple is not culpable.
The dunces should be properly advised to not use crayon on their screen.
Apple is advertising security, and profiting from it, by censorship and anticompetitive business practices. Apple should not promise what they can’t deliver unless the user chooses to stay within the Apple ecosystem. And anyway, the liability would lie where they got the malware. The anticompetitive practices block a more secure approach or store from becoming reality.
Should we treat the web the same way for the same reasons? Should we go AOL only?
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«/ Cook, speaking at an event last month, said the proposal would destroy the security and privacy of iPhones. /»
Yes, the security and privacy of Apple’s iPhone is a strong competitive selling point.
We all know what brands of mobile phone to buy if you want less privacy and security.
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occasionalposter1 posted the following:
“The problem with that is that enough dunces will do it and then sue apple when their phone is locked by ransomware, or the said dunces have their bank accounts stolen and they co-blame Apple.”
Your reply is classic DEFLECTION like most Leftists around here. “Crayon on their screen?” SERIOUSLY?
So, let the record show AC dodged the question and did NOT acknowledge or care about the serious risks Cook constantly points out. As oc1 posted risks are malware, viruses, stealing passwords, access to bank accounts and the death knell — ransomware locking your iPhone.
Why is this OK with you, seriously? Or are you just turning a blind eye in your repeated disdain for Apple? Don’t worry, I never expect an honest answer from an Apple hater. On to other parts of your post.
“Apple is advertising security, and profiting from it, by censorship and anticompetitive business practices.”
YES, Apple is profiting from the revolutionary iPhone that instantly and magically changed the world!!!
Steve Jobs in the same league in history as Henry Ford and Thomas Edison, et al. Obviously you don’t appreciate the industry paradigm change in Apple’s favor making money as the first two trillion company. Why do you not appreciate Apple accomplishments?
NO, “anticompetitive business practices” do NOT EXIST. Apple pioneered the APP Store world successful standard and you want to swim in their pool behind the walled garden, you are obligated to heed lifeguard Cook. Predict that just sticks in your craw.
“Apple should not promise what they can’t deliver unless the user chooses to stay within the Apple ecosystem.”
They promise what they already deliver SECURITY in the Apple ecosystem. What they cannot promise is what you want, third party apps outside the Apple ecosystem Apple has no control over to review and meet high security standards. Is this too complex for you to understand?
“And anyway, the liability would lie where they got the malware.”
How comforting to Apple lawyers. NOT, they run the risk of being implicated as well in lawsuits a surprise naive opinion. Certainly they should win every case, but why should they have to open themselves up to legal threats on a daily basis, wasting time and money on APPS out of their control? Oh right, to please one user applecynic.
“Should we treat the web the same way for the same reasons? Should we go AOL only?”
Deflection incomplete nonsense, nuff said.
BOTTOM LINE: Apple offers the most secure experience of ALL tech giants. applecynic has been consistently advocating for over a year a threat to security allowing third party apps for no LOGICAL good reason…
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Why is it so foreign to you that the user should choose who/how to protect their device, as on the Mac?
What escapes you that competition is good, even over security?
I don’t admire business achievement so much.
I don’t admire Applecynic much. No achievement, just rants. It’s sad. But it keeps Applecynic going long enough in between his maths debatery pawn hub sessions.
i am going to invent a widget one day that becomes so popular the world wouldn’t become dependent on it aka MS windows or Apple iPhone and then I will wait for the anticompetition ant trust blah blah blah to try and force me to take steps to change. I will then take my private company and liquidate everything and shut down out of spite.
Nonsense MDN and MDN followers. On your logic then the same should apply to MacOS and every other operating system in the world. Imagine being completely locked down in MacOS not being able to install any app outside the Mac App Store. Exactly. Cut the crap you guys.
“You better not do that. We think our collective and egalitarian pursuits are better for the World.
Closing oneself off to the Centralized plan is nothing but privilege.”
Pure evidance that she has no clue what she is talking about! …
Facts are facts Vestager… reality is reality… u cant wish them away just because ‘u dont think so‘ !
Yet you implicitly trust a multinational corporation led by unelected management who reward themselves 400+ times the compensation that “essential” workers are offered?
You must not have read the user agreement. Neither Apple nor any other consumer electronics maker guarantees your privacy, nor your cloud data integrity or access.
Yup, that’s the problem right there. Yes, because she is soooo much smarter than everyone else. Better yet, spoken like a true politician who doesn’t actually listen to consumers but tells others how they should think.
Funny how when an official doesn’t make himself crystal clear to the lowest common denominator, he is accused of acting as a malicious “deep state” operator in shadowy conspiratorial spy movie ways.
When an official makes himself available to the press, a cadre of self-appointed critics flood social media with their harsh opinions, ripping apart any misstatement or unscripted moment of honesty.
Then we all wonder why we can’t find an honest competent politician willing to serve the public.
It’s like banning all autos but Ford automobile to prevent auto accidents. Sure, safety is of “primary importance” but needing power to do one thing does not give you carte blanche to do anything you want. Some of the worst vulnerabilities come from Apple forcing you to do things online that would be better done locally. Backing up your phone being a primary example.
Yes Ford makes some garbage products. That is why consumers need choices. What will the MDN whiners do when Tiny Tim’s successor starts really throwing corporate power around? Will MDN still encourage everyone to keep their lips firmly locked around Apple’s teat?
Tau, why can’t you back up your phone locally? I do it quite regularly with a hardware cable and an encrypted Mac that could be air-gapped for all that the backup process cares.
Any company that doesn’t want to pay Apple is free to create their own system and App Store at buy Chinese made phones and put their brand on them and cut Apple out. They can get good UmiDigi phones for a hundred dollars. After all didn’t Hwawei make their own system. I am happy to pay the Apple premium, though I don’t very often because I still own a 6s that runs the latest IOS. Can anyone show me a 6 year old Android phone that runs the latest version?
Next time you need a doctor, you should homeschool a kid from birth to medical school, because all others rely solely on themselves.
spare me your drivel……MDN readers thank you…….
Amen…
What these politicians don’t seem to understand is that the different App Store business models is also a choice and is subject to real market competition. Why not let consumers decide which way they want to go.
I don’t think she gets what the words “of paramount importance” mean. Security and privacy is of paramount importance, unless, of course, it isn’t.
It’s too important t to be entrusted to one entity. The owner of the device should have choices.
“The owner of the device should have choices.”
The problem with that is that enough dunces will do it and then sue apple when their phone is locked by ransomware, or the said dunces have their bank accounts stolen and they co-blame Apple. Apple still will have to pay lawyer fees even if Apple is not culpable.
The dunces should be properly advised to not use crayon on their screen.
Apple is advertising security, and profiting from it, by censorship and anticompetitive business practices. Apple should not promise what they can’t deliver unless the user chooses to stay within the Apple ecosystem. And anyway, the liability would lie where they got the malware. The anticompetitive practices block a more secure approach or store from becoming reality.
Should we treat the web the same way for the same reasons? Should we go AOL only?
«/ Cook, speaking at an event last month, said the proposal would destroy the security and privacy of iPhones. /»
Yes, the security and privacy of Apple’s iPhone is a strong competitive selling point.
We all know what brands of mobile phone to buy if you want less privacy and security.
occasionalposter1 posted the following:
“The problem with that is that enough dunces will do it and then sue apple when their phone is locked by ransomware, or the said dunces have their bank accounts stolen and they co-blame Apple.”
Your reply is classic DEFLECTION like most Leftists around here. “Crayon on their screen?” SERIOUSLY?
So, let the record show AC dodged the question and did NOT acknowledge or care about the serious risks Cook constantly points out. As oc1 posted risks are malware, viruses, stealing passwords, access to bank accounts and the death knell — ransomware locking your iPhone.
Why is this OK with you, seriously? Or are you just turning a blind eye in your repeated disdain for Apple? Don’t worry, I never expect an honest answer from an Apple hater. On to other parts of your post.
“Apple is advertising security, and profiting from it, by censorship and anticompetitive business practices.”
YES, Apple is profiting from the revolutionary iPhone that instantly and magically changed the world!!!
Steve Jobs in the same league in history as Henry Ford and Thomas Edison, et al. Obviously you don’t appreciate the industry paradigm change in Apple’s favor making money as the first two trillion company. Why do you not appreciate Apple accomplishments?
NO, “anticompetitive business practices” do NOT EXIST. Apple pioneered the APP Store world successful standard and you want to swim in their pool behind the walled garden, you are obligated to heed lifeguard Cook. Predict that just sticks in your craw.
“Apple should not promise what they can’t deliver unless the user chooses to stay within the Apple ecosystem.”
They promise what they already deliver SECURITY in the Apple ecosystem. What they cannot promise is what you want, third party apps outside the Apple ecosystem Apple has no control over to review and meet high security standards. Is this too complex for you to understand?
“And anyway, the liability would lie where they got the malware.”
How comforting to Apple lawyers. NOT, they run the risk of being implicated as well in lawsuits a surprise naive opinion. Certainly they should win every case, but why should they have to open themselves up to legal threats on a daily basis, wasting time and money on APPS out of their control? Oh right, to please one user applecynic.
“Should we treat the web the same way for the same reasons? Should we go AOL only?”
Deflection incomplete nonsense, nuff said.
BOTTOM LINE: Apple offers the most secure experience of ALL tech giants. applecynic has been consistently advocating for over a year a threat to security allowing third party apps for no LOGICAL good reason…
Why is it so foreign to you that the user should choose who/how to protect their device, as on the Mac?
What escapes you that competition is good, even over security?
I don’t admire business achievement so much.
I don’t admire Applecynic much. No achievement, just rants. It’s sad. But it keeps Applecynic going long enough in between his maths debatery pawn hub sessions.
i am going to invent a widget one day that becomes so popular the world wouldn’t become dependent on it aka MS windows or Apple iPhone and then I will wait for the anticompetition ant trust blah blah blah to try and force me to take steps to change. I will then take my private company and liquidate everything and shut down out of spite.
Nonsense MDN and MDN followers. On your logic then the same should apply to MacOS and every other operating system in the world. Imagine being completely locked down in MacOS not being able to install any app outside the Mac App Store. Exactly. Cut the crap you guys.
“You better not do that. We think our collective and egalitarian pursuits are better for the World.
Closing oneself off to the Centralized plan is nothing but privilege.”
Pure evidance that she has no clue what she is talking about! …
Facts are facts Vestager… reality is reality… u cant wish them away just because ‘u dont think so‘ !
Maybe I’m a bit paranoid, but when a government wants to infringe on my privacy, no matter the motives, I get nervous!
Yet you implicitly trust a multinational corporation led by unelected management who reward themselves 400+ times the compensation that “essential” workers are offered?
You must not have read the user agreement. Neither Apple nor any other consumer electronics maker guarantees your privacy, nor your cloud data integrity or access.
Do not delude yourself with marketing overtures.
” because I think”
Yup, that’s the problem right there. Yes, because she is soooo much smarter than everyone else. Better yet, spoken like a true politician who doesn’t actually listen to consumers but tells others how they should think.
Thanks for sharing what you think, amigo.
Funny how when an official doesn’t make himself crystal clear to the lowest common denominator, he is accused of acting as a malicious “deep state” operator in shadowy conspiratorial spy movie ways.
When an official makes himself available to the press, a cadre of self-appointed critics flood social media with their harsh opinions, ripping apart any misstatement or unscripted moment of honesty.
Then we all wonder why we can’t find an honest competent politician willing to serve the public.
It’s like banning all autos but Ford automobile to prevent auto accidents. Sure, safety is of “primary importance” but needing power to do one thing does not give you carte blanche to do anything you want. Some of the worst vulnerabilities come from Apple forcing you to do things online that would be better done locally. Backing up your phone being a primary example.
Garbage
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Yes Ford makes some garbage products. That is why consumers need choices. What will the MDN whiners do when Tiny Tim’s successor starts really throwing corporate power around? Will MDN still encourage everyone to keep their lips firmly locked around Apple’s teat?
Tau, why can’t you back up your phone locally? I do it quite regularly with a hardware cable and an encrypted Mac that could be air-gapped for all that the backup process cares.
After so many failures, this apparatchik is now desperate for win.
Good luck with that.
The apparapplecynic?
Any company that doesn’t want to pay Apple is free to create their own system and App Store at buy Chinese made phones and put their brand on them and cut Apple out. They can get good UmiDigi phones for a hundred dollars. After all didn’t Hwawei make their own system. I am happy to pay the Apple premium, though I don’t very often because I still own a 6s that runs the latest IOS. Can anyone show me a 6 year old Android phone that runs the latest version?
Typical EuroTrash money grab in progress……..enjoy your 28 hour work week and National Healthscare System while you prattle on……
I guess that you prefer a six-day work week, no pensions, and no affordable health care like we had in the US before the 1930s. MAGA, I suppose.
NOPE….libertarian……..Dimturds and Repubturds can’t get it done…..but but but but….everything is free right……
Spare us
Next time you need a doctor, you should homeschool a kid from birth to medical school, because all others rely solely on themselves.
spare me your drivel……MDN readers thank you…….
Amen…
What these politicians don’t seem to understand is that the different App Store business models is also a choice and is subject to real market competition. Why not let consumers decide which way they want to go.
Consumers are given a choice. If you don’t like Apple, go Android.
No, I want the same benefit for both my Android, and Apple devices. I own them. You are free to shop Apple only.