Canaccord Genuity: Both iPhone 5s and iPhone 5c outselling Samsung Galaxy S4

“Apple’s new iPhone strategy appears to be paying healthy dividends for the company, according to a new research note from analyst firm Canaccord Genuity,” Darrell Etherington reports for TechCrunch.

“The iPhone 5s is outselling the older Samsung Galaxy S4 at all four major U.S. retailers according to the firm’s findings,” Etherington reports, “but the surprising twist is that the iPhone 5c is outselling the Samsung flagship rival at both AT&T and Sprint, too.”

MacDailyNews Take: What’s surprising about a superior smartphone outselling an inferior knockoff with noticeably lesser build quality that usually costs more?

Etherington reports, “The 5s is likely still outselling the cheaper device, but reports of lots of stock for the 5c may have had much more to do with it being well-supplied than with any significant lack of consumer interest, based on these figures. Samsung managed to retain second place at both Verizon and T-Mobile with the Galaxy S4 despite Apple’s iPhone launch, due in part to price cuts, according to Canaccord.”

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    1. Wonder how true this story is considering the experience of my son-in-law, Sam, an ATT/Verizon/you-name-it salesman. From my daughter:

      “Sam is not very impressed with the new iPhone and really upset they only supplied it in black for the launch. No one wants black when gold and silver are advertised. You can order the other colors but its 5 and 8 weeks out so he doesn’t get paid
      until its activated. Which people here didn’t even bother ordering. Also they dropped the ball so much with this launch this was the first time Sam did not make his goals. The anticipation for some great new phone from apple always increases sales goals but this time was just a flop. Every phone in the store out sold
      the iPhone this last month. I guess when you look at the country as a whole it could be true but when you look at the multi-state region Sam is in, its not.”

      1. Sam needs a new job. Would the situation be any different if he were one of many vendors selling venue seats to the hottest concert in town, with everyone wanting the “best” seats in the house? As one of many vendors, he is not likely to get all the “good” stuff just for himself, especially if demand is through the roof. There’s always more to the picture that just what can be seen from one corner.

      2. Sounds like a lot of people preferred to buy their iPhones directly from Apple rather than from carrier sales people. Perhaps the carriers should have been a little smarter back when they tried to steer customers to other manufacturer’s phones.

        1. Good point Tom. For the first time everyone in my family ordered from the Apple store this year, not minding the wait for the gold version. Also in reference to the first post, claiming that people who went instore for an iPhone then suddenly bought a samsung or Htc etc is complete bull, bloody Troll !

      1. Your remark carries an underlying meaning that “Of Course” in Apple places, Apple WILL sell better – basically a disparaging / derogatory remark.

        It is an understood fact that Apple does not sell Samsung phones in Apple stores. Your remark gives the implication that it does.

        1. thanks.
          I still don’t get the twist, but thanks.
          Of course in Apple places, Apple WILL sell better. Nothing wrong with that, nothing disparaging / derogatory (I think). But the carriers aren’t Apple places, obviously, and still Apple outsold Samsung. And the total balance is shifted to Apple’s side even more by Apple stores.
          With “I’m sure”, I thought I added the joke that the Apple stores shift the balance towards Apple “even if you count all the Samsung devices that Apple sells” (zero exactly, therefore a joke).
          I guess it’s moot to discuss such detail if it’s not your mother tongue.

          1. Sam, I fully understand your confusion of English. As an American (USA) I moved to and lived in Japan for 26 years. Even when I could read, write, speak and listen, nuances confused foreigners QUITE often. One had to be fluent in body language, facial reading, and very subtle tone to figure out the context. I know from your reply that you meant well!

            1. Oh yeah, I’m of German descent so I got a double helping of assholeness.

              Dammit, somebody’s giving my comment positive ratings. Now they’re just screwin’ with me.

  1. Can you imagine if Apple and the distributers told the customers that one of these smart phones is a 64 bit device? I am hoping that this will become common knowledge after the iPads also go A7 64-bit too.

    1. Can you imagine the amazingly high number of blank stares the distributors and their sales people would receive once they make 64-bit their main selling point?

  2. FYI:
    Witnessed:
    Sales people at Verizon’s store are telling customers that there’s mo difference between the 5C and the 5S when asked for a 5s. When Touch ID was mentioned, in this context, the rep said that Touch ID doesn’t really work well and that many people are returning their 5Ss…

    1. FYI:

      FUD

      If that were the case there would be a mass rate of returns for these devices.

      Please provide link to this BS story.

      If this were the case, it would be the flip flopping shiny nickel chasing feature phone doofuses that don’t know quality if it shook their hand. That’s why samsung users are dumping their phones on Gazelle in record numbers, hours after iPhone 5 announcement without even going to Apple.com to check it out.

      1. breeze never said it was a story, he said he witnessed it happen. This is along the lines of other past stories from the carrier stores trying to move something other than iPhones.

        1. I never said it was. Read my comment carefully before defending someone else’s FUD.

          This Verizon comment with NO Specific context attached to it simply attempts to connect faulty customer information with whatever success is accociated with 5c thus far.

          Anecdotal stories are just that and nothing more. Unless there’s further BACKSTORY, hence the link reference request Just incase one might exist,

        2. Didn’t you already say this in above conversation as if YOU WITNESSED IT?

          (Quote)

          FYI:
          Witnessed:
          Sales people at Verizon’s store are telling customers that there’s mo difference between the 5C and the 5S when asked for a 5s. When Touch ID was mentioned, in this context, the rep said that Touch ID doesn’t really work well and that many people are returning their 5Ss…

          I simply wanted to clarify my previous comment. Same story told 2 different ways indicates that it’s not as wide a problem as you made it out. Hence the FUD tag.

          One: you witnessed it happened by several sales people.

          Two: relatives told you what happened to them.

        3. Perhaps you can clarify his comment a few posts later when he repeats same story told to him by relatives?

          Please stay out. He cal explain FUD or not FUD on his own.

          (Quote)
          If you must know…:

          A not so tech savvy relative of mine in NYC insisted on finding a 5S in a store here rather than wait for an Apple fulfillment…he and his wife went to a Verizon store. They tried to sell him the 5c after telling him that the 5C and the 5s were the same, he told them that he was interested in the fingerprint security, which is when he was told that “Touch ID doesn’t really work well and that many people are returning their 5Ss…” he called from the store to relay the message and question it. He did indeed tell the ‘specialist’ that he is lying and caused two other people to join the accusation…on the other hand someone else bought a shit phone as a result.

            1. -In the absence of any concrete facts, FUD and Troll back into your little house till the next shiney nickel catches your eye.

              Ooh Look!! A shiny new gadget!!

    2. Just another example of what we already know to be demonstrably true: the iPhone is the hottest-selling phone for all four big US carriers DESPITE the carriers’ intentions, not because of them.

      It must fry carrier people, esp at Verizon (which from the beginning pushed Android like mad as an iPhone-killer), that the iPhone is basically “self-marketing”. If they’re only going to begrudgingly sell Apple when they can’t trick, scam or spiff the customer into going with a (crappy but higher-profit) alternative, then they should just get out of the iPhone biz. Instead of fighting the iPhone, just dump it entirely and go with the POS Herd. (For reference, they can see how well that worked for DoCoMo in Japan vs its competitors.)

      Just because Android has more settlers than the Louisiana Purchase, doesn’t mean its not a winning strategy, right? /s

    3. And did you walk up to the Verison rep and call Bullshit?

      I’ve done that many times for many years in many different stores (and not just with regard to Apple products). Usually, I’m pretty polite about it — until the idiot store rep tries to pull the “I know more about this than you do..” card. Then I unload on them. I won’t stand for store employees lying to customers whether it’s an Apple product or a Microsoft product or an HP product or a Dell product or any other.

      IMNSHO, anyone who witnesses a customer being mislead about any product is just a guilty as they lying store clerk. Maybe even more so since sometimes (rarely, but sometimes) the store clerk just doesn’t know better and is just making it up.

      1. There are many products in the retail world which have contests for sales people, so the sales force is motivated to sell X even when Y is a better product and is what the customer comes in wanting to buy.

        1. Give up.

          You’re only defending your own FUD. Your inconsistent comments all on this thread give you away as a flip flopping feature phone chaser.

      2. If you must know…:

        A not so tech savvy relative of mine in NYC insisted on finding a 5S in a store here rather than wait for an Apple fulfillment…he and his wife went to a Verizon store. They tried to sell him the 5c after telling him that the 5C and the 5s were the same, he told them that he was interested in the fingerprint security, which is when he was told that “Touch ID doesn’t really work well and that many people are returning their 5Ss…” he called from the store to relay the message and question it. He did indeed tell the ‘specialist’ that he is lying and caused two other people to join the accusation…on the other hand someone else bought a shit phone as a result.

        1. Two stories are same.

          Yours (witnessed) First

          Relatives (told to you) Second.

          Same story with no merit on the driving sales of 5c as much as you might try to suggest.

    4. Probably trying to steer customers to 5c away from 5s because of probable higher stockpiles of the “c”s which in turn give instant payouts rather than putting oneself together with the customer(payout) on a waiting list.

  3. I have been to Verizon back before the 5C and 5S came out and verizon reps were telling people there was no difference in the iphone and android expect price. And that really the samsung galaxy is a faster web phone and can surf the web much faster then the iphone can. And one saying well iphone is ok i really prefer android you get a bigger screen and more options but the iphone does sell well so i guess that there are people who do like the iPhone.

    1. Yeah, it’s only about a commission. Everyone needs to make a living. Selling an inferior unit based on screen preference is like pushing a cheap buffet versus a well made steak.

      I guess if no No developer support, Late OS updates and sneaky Trojan apps is a small price to pay for a snow shovel pressing against stubble cheeks, then go with Commission Man. He’ll say what the “gadget man” wants to hear.

  4. How does this isolated statistic mean anything?

    Samsung has over a dozen different phone models competing with the iPhone 4S, 5c, and 5s. Perhaps it would be meaningful if we were to see where iPhones were selling well, and where the competition is selling well. Disingenuous comparison serves no one except the fanboys of one side, who will buy any internet factoid and blow it completely out of proportion — with MDN all to happy to fan the immature flame wars.

  5. It will be interesting to see what Samsung comes out with to try and outdo the iPhone. Are they going to even attempt the fingerprint software? Maybe a new idea for a security setting? Should be interesting.

  6. The iPhone 5s is outselling the older Samsung Galaxy S4 at all four major U.S. retailers according to the firm’s findings,” Etherington reports, “but the surprising twist is that the iPhone 5c is outselling the Samsung flagship rival at both AT&T and Sprint, too.”

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