Fewer than 10% of Android users care that it’s so-called ‘open’

“It’s clear that there’s a highly vocal and highly technical group of people who love all of the technical things you can do with Android phones that you can’t do on iOS, consciously reject the iPhone and care deeply about ‘openness’ and all the things that go with it,” Benedict Evans blogs. “However, it’s also clear that these people are a minority of actual Android users, given that the typical use levels seen from Android in totality are lower than those from the iPhone (often much lower).”

“What hasn’t been clear, though, is quite how small that community is,” Evans writes. “Less than a tenth of Android users care that it’s open. The number of people who care that Android is open is about the same as the number of people who run Linux.”

Read more in the full article here.

MacDailyNews Take: Don’t forget to count all of the knot-heads inside Google who can’t see the forest for the trees. That’s another whole 50,000 right there. 😉

Google loves to characterize Android as ‘open’ and iOS and iPhone as ‘closed.’ We find this a bit disingenuous and clouding the real difference between our two approaches… Compare this with iPhone, where every handset works the same. Twitter client, TwitterDeck, recently launched their app for Android. They reported that they had to contend with more than a hundred different versions of Android software on 244 different handsets. The multiple hardware and software iterations presents developers with a daunting challenge. Many Android apps work only on selected Android handsets running selected Android versions. And this is for handsets that have been shipped less than 12 months ago. Compare this with iPhone…

…There will be at least four app stores on Android, which customers must search among to find the app they want and developers will need to work with to distribute their apps and get paid. This is going to be a mess for both users and developers. Contrast this with Apple’s integrated App Store which offers users the easiest to use, largest App Store in the world, preloaded on every iPhone.

“In reality, we think the ‘open’ vs. ‘closed’ argument is just a smokescreen to try and hide the real issue which is: What’s best for the customer? Fragmented versus integrated. We think Android is very, very fragmented and becoming more fragmented by the day. And, as you know, Apple strives for the integrated model so the user isn’t forced to be the systems integrator. We see tremendous value in having Apple, rather than our users, be the systems integrator.”

“We think this is a huge strength of our approach compared to Google’s. When selling to users who want their devices to just work, we believe integrated will trump fragmented every time. And we also think our developers can be more innovative if they can target a singular platform, rather than a hundred variants. They can put their time into innovative new features, rather than testing on hundreds of different handsets. So we are very committed to the integrated approach, no matter how many times Google tries to characterize it as “closed,” and we are confident that it’ll triumph over Google’s fragmented approach, no matter how many times Google tries to characterize it as “open.”Apple CEO Steve Jobs, October 18, 2010

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      1. thx Derek – I gave you five stars.
        though it would have better been presented with iOS advantages to your comment – as this is an Apple forum.

        Why iOS is safer than Android?

        “the relative vulnerability of Android vs. iOS comes down to the level of control the vendors have over products and the marketplace for development and distribution of apps.”

        “In 2011 alone, Google removed more than 100 malicious applications from its app store. Google discovered 50 applications infected by a single piece of malware known as Droid Dream, which had the capability to compromise personal data.8 However, Google hasn’t always acted in a timely manner to prevent infections. Users downloaded one harmful app more than 260,000 times before the company removed it from the app market.”

        “Apple’s walled garden App Store—where applications are fully vetted before being made available to customers—has prevented widespread malware infection of iOS users. As a centralized point of distribution, the App Store provides users with confidence that the apps they download have been tested and validated by Apple.”

        “it’s safe to assume that since Apple does not make APIs available to developers, the iOS operating system has fewer vulnerabilities”

        “However, iOS isn’t 100% invulnerable.”

        “Like Apple, Google provides a centralized market for mobile applications called Google Play. However, that is offset by the Android’s ability to install apps from third-party sources. Some are well-known and reputable such as Amazon. Others are not, and originate from malware hotspots in Russia and China. The criminal developers deconstruct and decompile popular apps like Angry Birds, and publish malicious versions and make them available for free.”

        1. Inform users about mobile risks
        2. Consider the security of over-the-air networks used to access company data
        3. Establish and enforce bring-your-own-device (BYOD) policies
        4. Prevent jailbreaking (To “jailbreak” or to “root” means to gain full access to the operating system)
        5. Keep device operating systems up to date (cheap low costing Android phones can not be upgraded – stuck on 2.2.3)
        6. Encrypt your devices
        7. Mobile security policies should fit into your overall security framework
        8. Install apps from trusted sources; consider building an enterprise app store
        9. Provide cloud-sharing alternatives (caution: cybercriminals will soon only need to hack the cloud not the devices)
        10. Encourage users to install anti-malware on their devices

        iOS does not support anti-malware software

        http://web.sophos.com/nl/jsp/m.jsp?c=d73bf44e47f65e1d07

  1. “The number of people who care that Android is open is about the same as the number of people who run Linux.”

    Strangely enough they are probably all the same people.

    1. Nothing strange about it. They’re the only people who enjoy constantly tinkering and having to reinstall software, drivers, etc. The rest of us just want our devices and computers to work.

      1. Indeed nothing strange at all. Sometimes its fun to tinker with stuff. I switched to Apple from linux because I stopped having time to tinker. Linux is still there when I am in a tinkering mode, but when I have to have it up and working, OSX and iOS.

    2. Among those I know that is definitely the case. Out of interest I have been asking those few I know who have android devices and found that most have not installed anything and only have the apps the device came with. One guy even thought the Facebook and twitter apps were just licence labels and accessed everything with the browser.
      The only one who has done anything is a full-on Linux freak. Never have I seen someone spend so much effort to achieve not much. He has fun but it seems quite pointless to me.

  2. Here is a gem of a video with SJ talking how open is……..you know….not ideal.

    On a side note, all you detractors of Scott notice how quickly he responds to Steves cue for him to add a comment. Say what you will about Scott being hard to get on with, or even how cocky he came across as….no one can say he was not as sharp as a razor.

    1. The key man was Scott on iOS and rightfully the next CEO.
      Yet, Tim removes a man who has contributed just as much to Apple as Tim has, maybe more so. Most of Apple leaders are ‘A type personalities’ – Jony couldn’t deal with Scott. How did Jony deal with Steve then? I don’t buy it. It was Cook who simply protected his turf as CEO. Cook is no where near as sharp.

        1. Sorry to disagree with you DM,

          But Forstall joined NeXT in 1992 and remained on board until Apple purchased NeXT in 1997. The Aqua theme of OSX seen in 2000 with its reflections and translucency really ignited a passion for Apples rebirth and highlighted the graphic power and capabilities of modern operating systems. Aqua also allowed Forstall to really make a mark at Apple. By 2003, he was made Senior Vice President. Jobs placed Forstall against Fadell in a competition in an epic challenge to eventually create what we all know as iOS. So Digital Mercenary, if you think that contribution to Apple is meaningless, you are a fool. If anyone thinks Apple can survive without iOS today they are insane. OSX was not what earned Apple its money or stature today. It was iPod and the tiny operating systems that came from OSX. iOS is exactly why Apple Computers rebranded themselves as Apple inc. As, the word “Computer” had been discarded Jan. 2007, to reflect a new focus on consumer electronics after since the introduction of iPhone. That along should tell you dorks the importance of iOS.

          Winning the competition gave Forstall great respect and a powerful position where all hardware executives would need his engineering teams approval to add any features. Forstall is also responsible for creating the developer kit for iOS and the App Store within iTunes.

          These all key money making areas for Apple. To ignore this by anyone here commenting on my stupidity is beyond ignorant and should not be even on MDN. I would not even consider you an Apple fan. You mention only your opinions against me yet state factual in your defence. Scott contributed bloody more than Cook has. Not to down grade the mans achievements but in light of the truth and the matter of how Apple turned in to a profitable engine definitely comes from iOS being created and a market surrounding it. By 2006, Forstall becomes the key man for OSX releases. During the same time, he is credited for his strict calculated extremely run software team on iOS. Scott achieved Chief Software Technology Officer and became iOS spoke person from 2008 until Oct 2012. He was responsible for Maps and Siri. These both are great achievements contributing to Apple. Again to ignore this and only see the negativity the press and media talk about – you all might as well be lemmings. For you are the ones clueless.

          Forstall was let go by Cook, according to refusing to sign the apology letter asked by Cook. There were stories that Forstall could not get along with both Mansfield and Ives and Cook had to sit in to mediate the meetings. If all of you are so pleased that Jobs appointed Cook personally as CEO. Then you all should respect that Jobs personally loved how “Apple’s ability to innovate came from tension and disagreement” – Cook seeks harmony and love. Not challenges and true passionate driving forces to better the customers with computing. Cook is a weakness, yet skilled on his own supply mastery but for his CEO ability. Forstall at least gained the titles and moved up the corporate chain with his own skill. In fact, its funny but part of the reason he is disliked, Scott was referred to as the Mini-SteveJobs. And a CEO yet to be… though many at Apple disliked the idea.

          It has been noted too, Tony Fadell, Jean-Marie Hullot, Jon Rubinstein all had troubles with Forstall… and even challenged Cook at for power. So tell me now, I have no bloody idea!!!! I believe Cook could not mediate thinks well, as he can not manage the Company either. Cook will pull a huge pay cheque form Apple. He has no vision what so ever, that has any drive or passion that is natural to Apple. And Cook as CEO can not take the time or responsibility to over see all things being done there. Cook was threatened by Forstall’s abilities and importance. I believe the man contributed far more then any – that is also directly related to iOS and Apple success in the mobile consumer device sector of business.

          “Apple CEO Tim Cook said his company has sold half a billion iOS devices to date and “sold 10 iOS devices per second” last quarter during Apple’s quarterly earnings conference call today” – Jan 2013

          http://venturebeat.com/2013/01/23/tim-cook-500m-ios-devices-sold-to-date-10-ios-devices-sold-per-second-in-q1/

          Likewise, if we extrapolate growth of iOS to 500 million users then we can assume they will generate $74 billion/yr in recurring revenues.

          Adding these together gives a potential recurring income level of $95 billion/yr for installed base alone (excluding iPods, Peripherals, iTunes apps/songs, and Software sales.) Today that figure is about $40 billion/yr.

          http://www.asymco.com/2011/06/30/how-much-is-an-ios-user-worth-to-apple-about-150-every-year/

          74 billion + 40 billion is
          114 billion a year from Scotts iOS.
          OSX is said to generate 74 billion.

          iOS has surpassed OSX in revenue – thats why iOS is far more important than anything else Apple is doing.

          Now tell me, firing the man who developed this… is insane. This was so political a move and a threat to Cooks position. So think different now okay all.

          1. * electronics AFTER the introduction of iPhone

            * That ALONE should tell you dorks the importance of iOS

            *These ARE all key money making areas for Apple

            * You mention only RUDE remarks YET offer NOTHING factual or INSIGHTFUL in your defence.

            * and even challenged Cook HIMSELF for power.

            * Cook could not mediate MEETING well, as he can not manage the Company either

        2. Despite this, according to a former Apple senior engineer, Michael Lopp, firing Forstall was a mistake. Lopp posted his thoughts on his blog:

          “Forstall, however, was old school. In my years at Apple, the Caffe Macs chatter about Forstall was that he was the only legit successor to Jobs because he displayed a variety of Jobsian characteristics. Namely:

          He was an asshole, but…
          Success seemed to surround him, and…
          No one was quite sure about the secret recipe to achieve this success.
          While I’d continued to hear about the disdain amongst the executive ranks about Forstall after I left Apple, I was still shocked about his departure, because while he was in no way Steve Jobs, he was the best approximation of Steve Jobs that Apple had left. You came to expect a certain amount of disruption around him because that’s how business was done at Apple – it was well-managed internal warfare. Innovation is not born out out of a committee; innovation is a fight. It’s messy, people die, but when the battle is over, something unimaginably significant has been achieved.”

          http://www.randsinrepose.com/archives/2012/11/11/innovation_is_a_fight.html

      1. Sweet Jesus: You’re either dumb as a stump or only here to create havoc. In either case, get lost.

        You have NOTHING positive to add, nothing useful or insightful to say. And YES, I’ll point this out whenever I run into your dreck here at MSN. So troll rant all you like. That won’t change. 😛

        1. oh here we go again from the troll of trolls,

          One must wonder, what exactly is the value you bring here to this MDN community of comments? It certainly isn’t comedy.

          Please, oh mighty Derek, please bless us all with your polished turds remarks. Is that your self appointed worth in life. Your sole purpose is satisfied daily by insulting others, dubbing them as you feel is troll like. To pass judgement on to others. You do have other value I hope, then again, it seems you do in deed enjoy dragging your soiled under garments across this page?

          My opinion is mine. If this is ranting, I will rant all I wish. You are not required to agree with me. And my opinion doesn’t justify your judgemental BS either. Derek, you have no control over me. And you are quickly become transparent to others with the crap you post here.

          Even though my post directly relates to the posted video.
          You insult me… as you do with so many others, whom you disagree with. However, it is apparent, and well documented, and honestly being recorded, that your behaviour, “this policing of those whom you chose to believe are trolls – is ONLY degrading your own so called supreme intelligence.” The only stump here is you, and will rot away with every attempt you try to weed out as trolls.

          Yes you are the troll of trolls. Your own decision is obvious, that it is you who enjoys to creating tension here, you who creates troubles, you who creates havoc. You are the negativity embodied in MDN. And its apparent that it won’t change. The solution is clear. You are a waste of anyone’s time and a negative valued member here.

          1. You get this one reply: I don’t give a rat’s about anything you have to say in response to what I write about you. I’m here to expose you and other trolls as exactly what you are and to harass you and make you feel as small and miserable as YOU make others feel. I am the troll’s troll. You GET what you GIVE, dickwad. And I’m giving you back your own excrement. You can keep it. 😛

            1. So honour with one reply,
              yet your math skills lack the ability
              to compute on a single hand.

              We should call you Mr. “D”elusional from here on.

            2. then try exposing me too Derek,

              you can’t fathom the infinite personalities
              which embrace my opinions nor do you see dimensionally
              what wrong you have done to yourself

            3. So you’re schizophrenic and you’re talking about ME being self-destructive. See your doctor. Take your meds. Everything will look better in the morning. This is just a passing phase. You are a whole person. You are a well person. You are a positive person. You have good things to offer our miracle planet Earth. You will help others. You will help life. You can find yourself. You can be your best self. Keep working at it, whoever you really are under that anonymous coward garb.

            4. Add me to the list also,

              Schizophrenia is a broad segment in the field of metal health.

              There is “Paranoid Subtype”, “Disorganized Subtype”, “Catatonic Subtype” , “Undifferentiated Subtype”, and I recall also the “Residual Subtype”. Nevertheless, you fall squarely in to the standard definition of one who suffered from such metal illness. Schizophrenic it truly classifies you Derek to a capital “D”.

              I hope you took your Lithium today.

              “mental disorder of a type involving a breakdown in the relation between thought, emotion, and behavior, leading to faulty perception, inappropriate actions and feelings, withdrawal from reality and personal relationships into fantasy and delusion, and a sense of mental fragmentation”

              Yet the most obvious is, your contradictory self definition.
              I have a right to remain anonymous as said before. And for someone who believes in ultimate choices and ultimate responsibilities you poke a hole in your own logic by your contradictory choice to harass others.

              I never said you were ‘self-destructive’ but lets play on your delusional self absorbing inconsistencies.

              You are as useless as polishing a turd.

            5. Zero Credibility? Yet another weak post.
              You think your link to your blog expresses
              that your view points are anymore trusted than anyone else.
              You believe you are genuine and righteous above all others, simply because you have a blog and a login.
              What a joke. Your website doesn’t work.

              You once again have exposed your true colours,
              again proofing your grandiose trippy bs.

              Drop it, Currie. – you are nothing more than troll.
              Do something positive.

            6. And, agree and I am quick to sign on, with the inclination that Derek has purposely harassed others based on his misguided skewed viewpoint. It seems, inappropriate and premature to make such judgements as he does. He apparently gets a thrill or satisfaction from his abrupt abrasive, out of touch comments. Claiming they are trolls, though it is his own decision and responses which others evidently see as the real culprit here.

            7. No, there is no question. I’ve been purposely harrassing anonymous coward TROLLS for well over 15 years. Now why would I do that? If you can’t figure it out, then you don’t understand the concept of retribution. Someone tosses a turd at you and your friends and you decide to do… what?

              And no. The fact that these people are trolling has nothing to do with me. Talk to THEM about it.

              Now move along. If you’re not part of the solution, you’re probably part of the problem.

            8. Derek you have no power over anyone, no authority whatsoever. This obsession to annoy and harass whom ever you wish at will from you view as self appointed justice system – to police and label whom ever you please and dub those as Trolls. Is such an ignoramus choice in life to spend time doing. You accomplish nothing valued sir. You defend no ones honour. You are worthless in doing so.

            9. There is no problem as there was no question.

              You fail to judge others based on their opinions.
              You would be a horrible judge – off with your heads for even suggesting Apple has not been perfect, however you supposedly write a blog ranting and complaining to Apple. You Sir, are a contradiction to everything you do and say.

              Cowardly stomping on those whom you claim are Trolls, is plain wrong Derek. You cause more then 90% of the situations here on MDN. 15 years devoted to a warped self serving act of what you think is righteous?

              Derek your blog is bs. Your website doesn’t work. Anyone can invent a name. You amount to a Gomers’ Pile of pure excrement. Clean up or you will be harassed. Clear enough?

            10. you claim i am giving you excrement and you are returning what i give… look at the beginning of the post – first off I am not even replying to you…

              What a ignorant statement, totally lost in his own world, a highly functional bastard in deed, “The fact that these people are trolling has nothing to do with me” but irresponsible for this own actions. If you start it Derek you in deed caused it.

              Typically, if a person tosses a turd my way, if it doesn’t hit me, i will ignore it, however, if it touches me or insults me, I am not going to stand for it. It becomes personal. You have chosen this to be just that, . You will not win. You are out numbered. I am not the only one who sees you for what you really are. But for now, you are worthless.

            11. “Anonymous coward” says it all. Troll all you like. You have zero credibility as a fake person.

              Didn’t I say ‘schizophrenic’? Wasn’t I right? One person, dozens of fake nicks. NEXT IN QUEUE PLEASE…

            12. Hilarious, a fake person now.
              Ha ha. Yet another weak post by the “infamous” Derek Currie.

              try to this on for size you tiny “wenis”,

              oooooh sorry, I must turned off ‘autopilot’, error, systems override, mistaken identity, not a humanoid, eject, eject, ice scream is sandwiched in my AndyBotOS shorts…
              eject… and…. flush, what excremental relief – ahhhhhh

              A human process; bowel moments and I just released
              a Derek Turd. Happy to share.

              What happened to you Derek? A man who believes in the ultimate choices and ultimate responsibility for those choices.
              Yet can not respect opinions of others. Lots your credibility right there doofus.

              Ha ha – your credibility is so deflated. You boneless fish.
              Shame on you, a smart guy, yet not intelligent enough to blend in with eclectic folk.

              Time to articulate a new approach.
              Re-invent yourself Mr. DC you are washed up.
              Or shall I say, you’ve been flushed out.

            13. 15 years of countless success,
              but apparently this pleases waste thought
              and effort and time.

              You can’t win because you are fighting for attention only, young lad.

            14. One of the most common misconceptions people have about mental illnesses is that someone with schizophrenia has multiple personality disorder.

              Schizophrenia

              Schizophrenia affects how people understand what is real and what isn’t. They may feel that their neighbors are constantly spying on them, or they may hear voices. Schizophrenia’s complications come about because patients often can’t tell if the voices are “real.” They may know that the voices are just in their heads, but that doesn’t make it easier for them to ignore the suggestions and commands they are told.

              Visual or auditory hallucinations, delusions (beliefs not grounded in reality), disorganized thoughts and actions (sometimes manifesting in the inability to speak logically), apparent stoicism, social withdrawal, unpredictable aggression and hostility and other inappropriate responses and actions are hallmarks of schizophrenia.

              Schizophrenia tends to worsen over time, so patients typically need to get medication and stay on it to avoid symptoms. The exact cause of schizophrenia isn’t known, but research indicates brain chemical imbalance as a factor. It appears that both genetics and environment may contribute to schizophrenia.

              Multiple Personality Disorder

              Multiple personality disorder, on the other hand, is not even accepted by all experts as a real occurrence. Those who do believe describe multiple personality disorder as a dissociative disorder, meaning it is a way people use to escape from reality rather than an inability to tell the difference between reality and fantasy.

              More properly termed dissociative identity disorder, multiple personality disorder occurs when people manifest divergent personalities, switching between or among them in times of stress. The personalities may or may not be aware of each other.

              Although medication is sometimes part of the treatment for multiple personality disorder, the cause of multiple personality disorder is thought to be trauma rather than physical or genetic issues, so counseling is a more common therapy.

              Conclusion

              These two mental illnesses do have some similar problems, but they are really very different. Understanding the differences can help clear away some of the misconceptions regarding both schizophrenia and multiple personality dissociative disorder.

              This process is called,
              flushing out the “turd” called Derek.

            15. And…

              “Anonymous coward” says it all. Troll all you like. You have zero credibility as a fake person.

              That’s not changing. But do please blether on and prove yourself to be just another hate mongering troll, anonymous coward of a thousand fake nicks…

            16. “I don’t give a rat’s about anything you have to say in response to what I write about you.” — says Derek

              So, he is irresponsible and cares not about that in which he causes.

              here, “to harass you and make you feel as small and miserable as YOU make others feel. I am the troll’s troll.” –exclaims Derek

              I made no degrading comment to anyone on this topic regarding 10% Android users. I responded to the voice whom believes and wishes to harass me, for no apparent reason, other then to label me – for whom he has no idea who I am, but as a Troll.

              “You GET what you GIVE, dickwad. And I’m giving you back your own excrement.” — protests Sir Derek

              I get what I give? How interesting. Me thinks Mr. “D”elusional is still feeling tiny from his last encounter. I never belittle anyone here, But, me thinks defending myself from the likes of people like you is a worthy act. Perhaps I should take your challenge as a threat? I dont need to stomp on those I think are trolls – I can simply ignore them. And they have right to post comments. Either view point from either side is free to do so. No one but you has decided to take a stand. A position uncalled for and useless for you make things personal.

              So, hear me clearly, I will challenge you in exactly the words you stated here, I vow to personally post on MDN picking you DIRECTLY, Derek. As to whom ever you CHOSE to harass. As you said “to harass you and make you feel as small and miserable”; that is now my objective.

              “And YES, I’ll point this out whenever I run into your dreck here at MSN” — boasts Mr. “D”elusional

              And so shall I. You started this bs war of words and you continue to abuse others. Your name is mud as far as I am concerned. And you where a red target sign on your chest. I suggest you learn to duck quickly.

              Since you have yet to learn the lesson here. That others have fredom to express their opinions without you interfering. “A troll is someone who posts inflammatory, extraneous, or off-topic messages in an online community, such as a forum, chat room, or blog, with the primary intent of provoking readers into an emotional response or of otherwise disrupting normal on-topic discussion.” Yo love to insult and cause trouble. You bring it on to yourself, like a Stigmata Martyr.

              I said you only expose yourself as a troll. Not destroy. A troll who thinks he is preserving others from the possibilities which trolls may say here. How foolish. What a waste of effort. I thought you were an intelligent guy. Yet you are more a highly functional person suffering from “schizophrenia”. It fits you to a capital “D”.

              Derek, your name calling is juvenile. Calling me a “dumb stump” thats so laughable, my comments in your opinion are neither “positive nor useful or insightful”, again shrug. Big Yawn. Big LOL. A “dickwad” okay, the insults are getting better yet pointless… you can’t peg me for a Troll. Specially when what you are doing — is. Then you mention I am a “schizophrenic”, whatever, yet I can express examples from your comments and reference your own definition of yourself to back my claim – even you, yourself admits you are a troll, who’s purpose is to stomp on other trolls.

              However that is the problem here… You. You and your idealism, and self appointed judgemental harassment and abrasive responses, which are out of touch with other posts have no reason nor proof nor factual reference to the person you claim is a troll.

              Your super human powers ain’t real – its all in your head Derek.
              Polish a fresh turd from your own toilette Derek. I think its better time spent.

            17. “Politically I call myself a ‘Positive Anarchist’ in that I believe in maximum choice. But I also believe in maximum responsibility for our choices, therefore being positive as opposed to irresponsible or negative.” – Derek

              http://mac-security.blogspot.ca

              Zero Credibility, contradictory to his own statement, justifies life within his own spectrum of terms, creates an environment suitable only for himself.

              you been flushed Derek.

            18. You are so incredibly repetitive and boring with every new fake nick you perpetrate at MDN. So no wonder I respond with the same. But at least I’m factual:

              “Anonymous coward” says it all. Troll all you like. You have zero credibility as a fake person.

              Next fake nick in queue please! 😆 😆 😆

            19. the fact that i can freely post;
              my choice with any nickname I wish…
              this makes me fake?

              This places me with zero credibility?

              Derek, it is you whom is repetitively posting like a child.

            20. “Politically I call myself a ‘Positive Anarchist’ in that I believe in maximum choice. But I also believe in maximum responsibility for our choices, therefore being positive as opposed to irresponsible or negative.” – Derek Currie

              http://mac-security.blogspot.ca

              website doesn’t work – where’s the credibility?

              heres fact and admittance on your part;

              “No, there is no question. I’ve been purposely harrassing anonymous coward TROLLS for well over 15 years. Now why would I do that? If you can’t figure it out, then you don’t understand the concept of retribution.” — Derek Currie

              revenge, punishment rightfully deserved, you are:
              Captain Contrary or Mr. “D”elusional

              “And no,” — Derek continues, “The fact that these people are trolling has nothing to do with me. Talk to THEM about it.”

              Derek can’t stay on the topic he started. I am most certain he does suffer from schizophrenia.

              Derek has claimed I am a Troll. He doesn’t make any connection to the previous posts in line. Nothing is coherent. Just verbal attack. Probably reminded by some other week he made a similar mistake. The issue is with him. There is no mention of others, he simply pops into the “conversation” disruptive – pointless – with shameless insults. Abusive… a troll. And he admits to it…

              So sure, lets be factual…

              “Sweet Jesus: You’re either dumb as a stump or only here to create havoc. In either case, get lost.” — Derek Currie

              “You have NOTHING positive to add, nothing useful or insightful to say. And YES, I’ll point this out whenever I run into your dreck here at MSN. So troll rant all you like. That won’t change.” — Derek Currie

              This responses comes after, my comment,

              Sweet Jesus
              Wednesday, June 5, 2013 – 11:34 pm

              “The key man was Scott on iOS and rightfully the next CEO.” etc… blah blah – a harmless comment. A comment not made at anyone in particular on MDN.” — Derrek Rylock

              Sweet Jesus, WaterFalls2013, Sam Spade etc… and anyone else I wish to anonymously post as thats my choice so long as I am not being abrasive and insulting others. As Derek Currie is and does, and admits to do.

              Having a login name and a blog does not add anymore credibility to his posts here. Nor does his self appointed troll stomping justify in his actions to do as he does. A troll is a troll. You are nothing more than that Derek Currie. Grow up.

            21. “Politically I call myself a ‘Positive Anarchist’ in that I believe in maximum choice. But I also believe in maximum responsibility for our choices, therefore being positive as opposed to irresponsible or negative.” – Derek Currie

              http://mac-security.blogspot.ca

              Believes in choice:
 but for some reason not the freedom of individuals nor their opinions?

              Believes in the responsibility of ones choice:
 yet choses to sact as this agitating “wenis” believing he has a self-appointed right to judge who is a troll. Simply because he disagrees. Its his decision he can not control his habits and chooses not to ignore. Rather than skillfully reflecting comments and harvesting them into civil topics, he responds in childish, immature behaviour, gasping insult for self defence.

              
I did not attack you on a personal level.

              With your primary intent of provoking readers into an emotional response or of otherwise disrupting normal on-topic discussion, you resort to inflammatory, extraneous, and off-topic messages.

              Your actions and words are not positive – and your authority has no power, you do not represent the police to trolls, your interjections actually cause issues here.

              You are nothing but a irresponsible, judgemental, worthless agitator. A Troll. Go, silly boy, play the Lord of the Rings instead. Your game is all whacked.

        2. “Politically I call myself a ‘Positive Anarchist’ in that I believe in maximum choice. But I also believe in maximum responsibility for our choices, therefore being positive as opposed to irresponsible or negative.” – Derek

          http://mac-security.blogspot.ca

          Believes in choice:
          how about freedom of opinion Derek?

          Believes in the responsibility of ones choice:
          your decision; live with it Derek, you have the choice to ignore something you disagree with or offer responsible insight, but not to insult unless in self defence responding to recent and direct comments personally to you.

          No one will see any positivity in your comments above.
          I did not attack you on a personal level. That makes you interjecting on my comment with no connection other than to cause issues here. You are nothing but a irresponsible, judgemental, worthless agitator. Yes, a Troll.

            1. “Anonymous coward” says it all. Troll all you like. You have zero credibility as a fake person.

              It’s very creepy watching you post reply comments to yourself, fraud.

              Next in queue please!

            2. “Politically I call myself a ‘Positive Anarchist’ in that I believe in maximum choice. But I also believe in maximum responsibility for our choices, therefore being positive as opposed to irresponsible or negative.” – Derek Currie

              Captain Contrary or Mr. “D”elusional

              http://mac-security.blogspot.ca

              website doesn’t work

              privacy act – the right to remain anonymous
              it’s called a choice – you respect not

              nor do you respect others opinions
              you are simply a Troll, not the Troll of Trolls.

  3. Even those who care about openness would have trouble articulating how it benefits them personally.

    All Android’s openness has achieved is fewer, lower-quality apps and more malware.

    1. Android is not open. Simple as that.
      Yet it is flawed and vulnerable to hacks, viruses and malware.

      To customize an Android phone,
      one needs to “Root” the phone.

      An iPhone “Jailbroken” becomes just as customizable.

      Thats as articulated its gonna get.

  4. We will never really know why Scott was released. iOS is not a product without a road map one year, 3 years, 5 years out, and it may be that Scott just wasn’t in alignment with what the other great minds at Apple thought of that roadmap.

    I think he was great for iOS, but as my boss told me once, yes, your are very valuable to the company, but you are not invaluable.

    We just don’t know what is behind Scott leaving.

    1. well taken,

      Tony Fadell, considered father of the iPod, said in an interview with the BBC that Forstall “got what he deserved.”

      But the man contributed plenty to Apple nevertheless.
      Was a great speaker, with enthusiasm and devoted interest in what he represented. Apple would never be what Apple is today without him. Don’t think Apple would be as successful.

      I suggest to read more about him.

      “Scott Forstall is senior vice president of iPhone Software at Apple. Reporting directly to the CEO, Forstall leads the team responsible for delivering the software at the heart of Apple’s revolutionary iPhone including the user interface, applications, frameworks and the operating system.”

      “Forstall joined Apple in 1997 and is one of the original architects of Mac OS X and its Aqua user interface. He was responsible for several releases of the operating system, most notably Mac OS X Leopard.”

      “Prior to Apple he worked at NeXT developing core technologies.
      Forstall received both a Bachelor of Science in Symbolic Systems and a Master of Science in Computer Science from Stanford University.”

      Source: Apple

    2. the natural chain of command was to report progress to the CEO, therefore Cooks public letter, where Forstall supposedly refused to sign over Maps, was Cooks’ responsibility ultimately on Maps, as it was his decision

    3. Apple senior engineer, Michael Lopp said Forstall “was the best approximation of Steve Jobs that Apple had left.” He added that several people chatting in Apple’s Caffe Macs cafeteria viewed Forstall as the only real successor to Jobs. Even though it appeared Forstall did not work well with several of his co-workers, being called an “asshole,” he was successful in what he did. Lopp said this is why he could have been the next Jobs.”

  5. People likely will never use the ‘openness’ of Android but they want the possibility if they ever had the time or inclination to fiddle with it. Those who do fiddle with it only do so once or twice in all likelihood and will not need what they changed but will claim it as a badge of honour. That leaves the developers who will make use of the ‘openness’ and only a few of those will want to do something that is truly open: create malware and privacy miners.

  6. Sophos, the anti-malware company out of the UK, sent out this message today:

    Our security experts at SophosLabs have seen Android malware grow by more than 4,000% in the past year. It’s a fact—smartphones are no longer safe from threats.

    4000% in one year.

    Enjoy your Android malware rat’s nest.

      1. I have Intego’s Virus Barrier on my iPod Touch, ready to go should their ever been any malware for iOS. Look it up.

        Ignorance is curable, anonymous coward “Sweet Jesus”.

        But you’d undoubtedly rather make a trollish ass of yourself using another dozen fake nicks…

        1. Intego Virus Barrier hurray, no problem. Great to know. I feel so blessed there are people out there as positive and knowledgeable as you.

          That said, read what Sophos pdf states, “iOS does not support anti-malware”.

          Next on the agenda, you make a huge misconception on the topic of mental illnesses – confused by schizophrenia over multiple personality disorder.

          I dont make an ass of myself Derek, I rightfully chose to use different nicknames here. Seems you have two opinions. If you don’t like a post – the person is a troll. If the person is not a MDN member they are automatic trolls.

          Don’t fool others here bud, you are no more genuine or trusted with a link and login to MDN then any other person here – your own credibility is deflated by your words and contradicting actions. And, your true colours are seen, by your agitating irritating joy of trolling. You lower yourself to what you believe is the nature of the post… that makes you nothing more than a troll.

          Have a good evening Derek. You are a waste of time.

        2. according to your post regarding to Sophos documentation, found under, (10 tips to prevent mobile malware), last note, page 10 — states:

          “Although malware exists for iOS and BlackBerry, those operating system interfaces don’t support anti-malware.”

          But true, McAfee Global Threats, Anti-Virus Detective, VirusBarrier, Secure.me for Facebook, F-Secure Safe Browser all exist for iOS – found on the iTunes App Store.

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