“In a rare interview a day before Samsung Electronics Co.’s launch of a new flagship smartphone, Apple marketing chief Phil Schiller on Wednesday played down the expected competition from the device,” Ian Sherr and Jessica E. Lessin report for The Wall Street Journal. “He also discussed how he believes products that run Google Inc.’s Android software, such as Samsung’s phone, are inferior to Apple’s iPhone.”
“Mr. Schiller shared data on the iPhone’s popularity and said Apple’s own research shows that four times as many iPhone users switched from an Android phone than to an Android phone in the fourth quarter,” Sherr and Lessin report. “Mr. Schiller, Apple’s senior vice president of world-wide marketing, also said that Android users are often running old operating systems and that the fragmentation in the Android world was ‘plain and simple.’ He added that ‘Android is often given as a free replacement for a feature phone and the experience isn’t as good as an iPhone.'”
Sherr and Lessin report, “The executive said the Android devices suffer in part because different elements come from multiple companies, whereas Apple is responsible for all its mobile hardware and as well as its iOS operating system. ‘When you take an Android device out of the box, you have to sign up to nine accounts with different vendors to get the experience iOS comes with,’ he said. ‘They don’t work seamlessly together.’ … He said the screen is ‘still the best display of any smartphone. Given the iPhone 5 is so thin and light, the reason that people are making their devices bigger is to get up to the battery life the iPhone 5 offers.'”
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Hilarious! Grab a clue! The reason people are making devices bigger is because many users want bigger screens. Better battery life is also a benefit, but Phil is smoking something if he truly believes that is the primary driver. Can you say, “delusional”?
Samsung is perfectly capable of producing a battery the same size as that in an iPhone 5 the problem is that the OS isn’t as efficient hence why the battery needs to be so large to make up for the waste of battery power
(i) non-Apple smart phone makers don’t have the technology to make smartphones as small as the iPhone, therefore they claim the bigger size is a feature; (ii) whereas Samsung may have access to similar batteries as Apple, iPhones may just draw less power, hence can employ smaller batteries. iOS is helping here: with iOS6, my iPhone 3GS, which used to need rechargeing every 1.5-2 days, now can idle for 1 day longer.
When my iPhone was jailbroken it killed the battery in 24 hours or less. I got it factory unlocked and did not jailbreak it this time, and the battery lasts 3 days now. That’s the difference the software can make. Android can’t keep up with Apple’s iOS.
Rick is right. While Samsung originally built larger screen phones to fit a bigger battery in, they have marketed it properly. They have spun it positive, and now people want larger screen phones. Phil needs to recognize this and either market the present iPhone screens (which I prefer) or concede the point. Or the third way would be to do like they did with the iPad Mini: “we did it properly”.
The reason for Samsung building larger screens in the first place says nothing about how they ended up marketing it.
The truth is that people who had to settle for an Android phone are happy to accept a larger screen and the accompanying explanation, even if it’s less convenient, because it was free, or the sales drone pressured them into it.
That would be assuming people are stupid. The first time they try to stuff that monster phoblet into a shirt picked or into skinny jeans, they realize they dont’ want a jumbo size screen with lower resolution, they want a smaller lighter device with a better screen.
The fact that 4X as many people Upgrade from an android phone to iPhone as do the reverse is 4:1 testifies to this (that people aren’t that stupid, they can be hyped to buy something that was not their best choice but they will usually figure it out fairly quickly.)
Add to that that it is becoming apparent that android has become a cesspool of malware infestations where as the superior iOS ecosystem has not (I think the figure (in the F-secure study) was that 97% of the malware on mobile devices is on android)
You can fool someone into buying knockoff crap with some effort, doing it again may prove a sisyphean task for samsung.
Oops that should have been
“You can fool someone into buying knockoff crap ONCE with some effort, doing it again may prove a sisyphean task for samsung”
@Rick
Unfortunately, I believe Rick is correct. I love my iPhone 5, but lets face it I bought it because the screen was bigger. If they offered one more size up, I might have bought that one instead. I love iOS and I have no intention on switching to Android, but I do envy the Galaxy screen size. I like it a lot.
Apple should get rid of the iPhone 4, make the iPhone 5 the entry screen and produce a phone in the middle between the iPhone 5 and the iPad mini. I think 4 devices would be perfect. They can probably get away with 2 application types. Phone Apps iPhone 5 and scale them up to fit the iPhone 5+ screen size, and downscale the iPad Apps to fit the iPad mini size (which they already do). There would be no more fragmentation of apps then they currently have.
As a matter a fact they now have three app categories. iPhone 4, iPhone 5 and Ipad.
Phase out iPhone 4. IMHO.
Your mileage will vary, because its different for everyone. I personally like the form factor of the 4 compared with the 5. The 4 fits in my pocket much better.
My daughter got a Galaxy sIII, or 3S, or whatever it is. She said the bigger screen is OK for some gaming, but still not nearly big enough to browse the web, or play some games. In the end, she still packs a phone, an iPad, and a MacBook.
Again, your mileage will vary, but I cannot see a phone size bigger than an iPhone5 being very ease to transport and use. Go ahead, try holding up a kindle or iPad mini to your face……. I WILL NOT make a call with something so huge.
BLN, otoh, he still wants phone service on his iPad3
I liked my 4 but think the 5 is better because it is smaller (thinner) and lighter and not for the 20% longer screen (though that does make some sense (after you use it a while) because it gives you a reasonable text area with the keyboard up.
But to answer the question no I think the phone would have been nearly as great if it had just been the thickness and weight of the current 5 without changing the face dimensions.
Discontinue the 4? Hell no. It is better than virtually any phone out there (except the 5)
samsung is a big problem for apple even though they do not realize it yet their phones are very similar and they copy apple very quickly
neither company will dominate the other they are creating a two tier domination of the smartphone market and there will be no clear winner for possibly 5 years
as an investor it is now prudent to invest asymmetricaly in both samsung and apple
As a human being it is prudent to take a stand against unprincipled competition, disrespect of intellectual property, bribery and propaganda as business tactics, brainwashing disguised as advertising, and oligarchical attempts to take over the world.
Does Samsung need to die for Apple to ‘win’? Does Apple need to cease to exist for Samsung to win? Again, the focus of marketshare is the wrong thing to look at.
If Samsung has 90% marketshare, and Apple has 90% of the industry profits why can’t they both have a place?
Yawn. You’ve got to be kidding me if you think that Samsung isn’t on Apple’s radar. Are you living under a rock?
Read any of the news recently? For instance THIS article? Or anything about the lawsuits? Or anything about the supply chain?
Of course Apple knows that Samsung is a problem. Wow.
I feel enlightened having read your post… NOT.
So it seems that Apple is taking a more assertive stance with regard to taking control of the discussion. Only problem is the WSJ is not interested in the message Apple is bringing. So it’s kind of a wash. The WSJ made Apple out be playing defense and reacting to the Aple is doomed meme instead of changing the subject. Or if your going to tacle the mene then you’d better be damn sure your message doesn’t get editorialized. And it did.
Yes, there are multiple grammatical errors in my post.
Phil was taken out behind the woodshed and beaten by Mr. Cook who told him that AAPL does not say bad things about competitors, but it is perfectly ok for everyone to say something bad about AAPL.
Wow Apple just sounded like BB 6 years ago.
“There is no keyboard and battery will not last long enough. ”
Unfortunately the product put downs from Steve Jobs came from a position of strength. Now does not feel like it.
Your attempt to make Apple sound bad is worse than the media (especially WSJ and NYT).
If you say something you are weak.
If don’t say something you are weak.
If you think about building a bigger screen phone you are doomed.
I you don’t build a larger screen phone you are doomed.
If you build a cheap phone you are doomed.
If you don’t build a cheap phone you are doomed.
Wall Street and Media Mantra is: If you are Apple and you do something, then you are doomed and should have done/said/imagined the opposite. However if you are Google or Samsung anything you do is going to kill Apple.
Wonderfully articulated, with the timbre and rhythm of the Old Testament, but evoking lurid images of the Pharisees from the New Testament. One can only maintain faith that the cant of the wicked shall be exposed and their misdeeds punished. In today’s sorry excuse for a world, however, I’m not holding my breath.
The big difference is that Apple actually delivered a quality product again and again and again, whereas Android-based phones are proving to be a mixed bag of nuts. Phil is talking about facts, not fortune-telling.
The main trouble is people just don’t know how to tell which is good and bad . They only know big or small .
NOR do people understand WHAT they NEED…
Mini SD card slot? — thats hardware.
Larger screen? — again hardware.
A pen? — lol hardware yet again.
Android? — its open?
You are open to more Security troubles.
You are open to more Viruses too.
Your Phone DOES NOT upgrade its OS.
WHY ON EARTH does ANYONE LOVE ANDROID?
What is it PEOPLE personally find with Android that makes their life better… ? Open provides you with customizable screens?
A cool factor… eye candy…. so I am not board looking at the same LOOK and FEEL… ANDROID is not stale? YES it is… its SAMSUNG or other manufactures that open and customize Android to make it LOOK fresh.
eye candy — doesn’t improve anyone experience or use.
True multi-tasking? — okay but it for most people KILLING tasks to make the device preform regular functions — really sucks. The multitasking on Droid sucks iOS handles it much better. And with cheaper models of phones that run Droid… there just isn’t enough ram included to manage apps well.
LETS just compare APPLE to the ORANGE:
The Samsung Phone COSTS the same as Apples Phone.
Each are well into a 700 dollar purchase.
Can anyone convince me to switch to Android?
I prefer the Stability of iOS.
I prefer the consistency of the platform… if said thats stale I say excuse me a 2 year old can figure out iOS and a 98 year old also… its plain AND simple but PURLY effective to all ages.
Its virus free. Its fresh enough that I still have discovered new ways to do things on iOS.
Waterfalls, look at almost any metric. Web browsing? iOS leads. Online purchases, iOS leads. App Developers? iOS leads. Money made by developers? iOS leads.
People who only want a fancy looking phone for making phone calls use android. People who use their phones for anything other than a phone will buy an iPhone.
I like Phil but Apple needs to design a phone that is so exceptional that no one would every consider anything else. Phil’s exhortations are seem unnecessarily weak and desperate.
They already do man, they already do… Samsung is just ‘aping’. Always have, always will.
Yes, they should create a phone called iPhone. Hmmm….
It does seem that it’s a bit desperate the day before Samsung releases a new phone. Apple should have been preaching the gospel for the last 5 1/2 months. To do it the day before a competitors huge launch in New York city stands out like a sore thumb. Phil, Tim and crowd should be beating the drum all the time. Those who use Apple products don’t need to hear it but those who are choosing Android phones and Tablets do need to be reminded that they are going out there without a lifeline. Apple needs to pound the table and start running more and better television commercials. Samsung has been bitch slapping them in public for over a year. You can afford to be smug when you don’t have any competition and your stock price is skyrocketing. Those days are over. Have been for quite a while. The stock price reflects this. Apple didn’t need to build a larger iPhone or a more affordable iPhone for the emerging markets either did they? Nope. How’s that working out now? You can bet your ass that Apple is scrambling to get both to market as fast as they can. You can moan and groan about Samsung and Google being copiers and evil but in the end you’re running a fucking business. You’re in business to make money. Otherwise it’s just a hobby for you. Something you do in your garage after work. People have invested/supported Apple with their hard earned money. Whether or not you took your money when you were way ahead in September or you are way, way down today, you expect Apple to grow your investment. That’s why you bought shares or options in AAPL. You don’t just hand your money over to someone and say “gosh I trust you” and then walk away. Well, buy-and-hold forever people did (how’d that work out?). You expect the people that manage your investment to do the best they can. I don’t think Apple has over the last year. I think they were just a little bit full of themselves. And Samsung has taken away some of their marbles. Sure, Apple makes the best stuff and has the best ecosystem out there. Actually the only ecosystem out there. I’ve been an Apple guy forever. But I can separate buying and using stuff to have fun and also to make a living as opposed to investing my money. Many here can’t.
Totally with you, even though my money is not in AAPL. The Apple gang seem to be obliviously humming to themselves in their well-appointed research labs, somehow insulated from the daily bombing runs the rest of us are running to shelter from.
I hardly think I’m the only Apple fan who preferred the naked aggression of the “I’m a Mac, You’re a PC” ad campaign to today’s tepid Ivory Snow commercials. Secrecy is all well and good for new product development, but it becomes a perversion when your brand is damaged daily by a bullying press and your stockholders are tortured, just because your lips have been sewn up like zombies. “Unleashing” Phil Schiller is fine, but I’d recommend further relaxation of the ritual politeness that seems to be strangling Apple nowadays.
Being the underdog is over. Making the best products and the most profits is no longer sufficient. The battle has been moved to another plane, whose coordinates are mindshare, market positioning, and mojo.
hahhjs, agree about the aggressive I’m a Mac ads…… Loved them.
Your last comment struck a real nerve with me, It’s what I think is wrong with Wallstreet in particular, and the world in general. “making the best products and the most profits is no longer sufficient.” Why not? In today’s world, why is nothing ever enough, or good enough?
They have, the iphone 5. Simply because people don’t recognize its valuedoes not take away from it
Forgive my assumption, but it sounds like you are wanting a phone thats cool looking.
Thats exactly why SameDung and others can churn out a ‘new’ phone every month, and have it praised to high heaven, when its guts are the same old same old, and the software/ UI? just yuck.
It seems like you have fallen into the lies of wallstreet and tech journalists. If it doesn’t look different its just the same thing with a new name or number.
Remember the old analog axiom, you can’t judge a book by its cover.
e-heh-heh-heh-heh….but how’s MDN on the iPon er Tampad i mean iPad? probably a bloody mess
Sounds like a desperate company to me. I dunno.
Apple is about the user experience where the sum of the parts is greater than the whole, where the entire focus of the product is in delighting the end user.
Samsung is all about a variety of screen sizes and gimmicks wrapped in a plastic shell.
For my money I put user experience above all else because gimmicks are like garish speed decals on a car to make it seem to go faster but bores you after a couple of weeks or so.
I, on the other hand, keep getting delighted by my iPhone and iPad every single day now since the day I bought item.
Phil Schiller revealed research from Apple that showed that customers switch to the iPhone from Android at about four times the rate they go the other way…
That’s the story…
Everyone seems to be crowing these days for a bigger screen. It’s a phone! Why don’t they just put an HDMI out on it and let you tote around a 20″ monitor?
Keeps missing the point in Android, Only people with money will buy apple products, What about the poor people who can’t afford it? What choice do they have? Android.
That is a Huge Customer base that they have to target, All over the world. Doesn’t matter whoever has the better os. It’s what people can afford. Rich people often forget how it’s like being poor and what choice you have.
Errrr… a Galaxy S III (and tomorrow, the S IV) cost as much, or more, than an iPhone. Your point is sorta pointless.
On a more analytical level, what most people simply don’t get is that Apple positions itself as an “aspirational” brand. To sell a bottom-of-the-food-chain product is not in its DNA. It is also fool’s errand from a business point of view: Apple currently sucks in 70% of ALL the profits being made in the global wireless business. Building a cheap mass market phone isn’t going to improve on that.
^^^
Pretty much this.
Samsung (and all the other Android manufacturers) offer a product at every price point including Apple’s territory, the flagship product.
It flows down to the used market as well. The planned obsolescence of old handsets have certainly left many consumers out in the cold. What good is “It just works” when Apple turns its back on users of older handsets? It’s turned my family off of Apple for good.
?????
Apple supports their phones for at least three years. No Android phone is supported beyond the original OS it came with, or in rare cases, one single version upgrade (and this is only for flagship models priced as high as the iPhone). Not a single Android phone is supported beyond two years since its first release, and many cheaper models simply never get ANY software updates.
Your decision to “turn the family off of Apple for good” seems to be based on some emotional (or other, perhaps financial) consideration, and NOT on what you claim, as it simply is not correct.
Well, the failure part of your name is right at least. Apple has NEVER hung onto the past. It learned from the mistake of MS and windows, still having to support old legacy crap.
As for obsolete? No, its simply not. Just because iOS 6 is out, doesn’t make my 3GS on iOS5 suddenly unable to work just like it did before. The two iPhone 3 shells in my home are no longer phones, but they now serve as the remotes for two entertainment systems. yeah, the 2008 technology is still going strong and has a place.
Same senario here….. My FIRST generation iPod Touch is still going strong as a component of the entire iEcosystem. My iPhone 3G not GS works as a remote for AppleTV it also happens to run MANY Apps with no glitches. Hell my PowerBook G3 has a wireless card in it that Streams Music like a champ that laptop was purchased in 1999. I also have a iMac DV Special Edition that still works on the network. That computer was purchased in the year 2000 yes the computer is 13 years old running OSX. BTW…… What desktop computer platform OS does SamScum sell? In addition how many types of Desktop/Laptop variations does ScamShit sell and do they own any type of OS that runs exclusively on their own hardware? Tizen???? What a JOKE! If anybody out there can point me to a laptop of any type running Tizen I’d love to see it in operation. AAPL has much up it’s sleeves. The iGnorance of any and ALL ANAList is mind numbing.
Eww, samsung/androids posting here! People switch from plastic junk to iPhones. Phil has a point. Get over it.
If Samsung didn’t copy Apple so much, Samsung would not even be mentioned. Too bad the media lets a shameless company like Samsung get undeserved attention.
“When you take an Android device out of the box, you have to sign up to nine accounts with different vendors to get the experience iOS comes with”
Unsubstantiated, and far from the truth at any rate.
“He said the screen is ‘still the best display of any smartphone”
Subjective. I much prefer the screen on the HTC One X, some prefer the Samsung AMOLEDs, some prefer the iPhone. If you want to call something “the best” you must first define “best”.
“Given the iPhone 5 is so thin and light, the reason that people are making their devices bigger is to get up to the battery life the iPhone 5 offers.”
Complete bullshit. Every person that I know who has gone to a large-screen phone agrees that they will not go back to a smaller screen. There is a market demand for 4.5″ and larger screens and more often than not they have average battery life due to the power required to drive those screens. He will be singing a different tune the day that Apple announce a big screen iPhone.
This is far from telling it like it is. This demonstrates a serious lack of awareness at Apple about what their competitors are doing. No company can afford to lose sight of where they sit in the market or what their competitors are offering.
Ok, let’s look at some of those points…
“He said the screen is ‘still the best display of any smartphone”
It’s RETINA! This is not just a catchy name for the sake of it. It ACTUALLY MEANS that a human retina CANNOT discern pixels any smaller than this (when held at about 8-10 inches in front of the eyes). The colour gamut and brightness is the best as Photographers and graphic designers have attested time and time again. So it is the best because the best have said so. Look at the reviews from these people…..NOT consumer reports. Also, your “friends” who prefer one or the other do not count because they know Jack shit.
“Given the iPhone 5 is so thin and light, the reason that people are making their devices bigger is to get up to the battery life the iPhone 5 offers.”
That is TRUE. Why? Because it is a bloody phone! That is the correct size for a phone. You look completely dorky with a slab of glass stuck to your ear and cheek. It should ONLY cover the ear! Discover the double tap and stop looking dorky.
“Retina” IS a catchy name for the sake of it.. There is an Android phone out now with a 468ppi screen. For sake of comparison an iPhone 5 is 326ppi, the GS3 is 306ppi, the Lumia 920 is 332ppi, the HTC One X is 312ppi. All of these are by Apple’s definition “Retina” but they cannot call themselves “Retina” because Apple have trademarked that word. Hence, it is only there for marketing purposes.
If you want to talk about colour gamut or subjective testing go right ahead.. Please link to an article/opinion from a professional or a subjective analysis between an iPhone and the HTC One X.
I haven’t been able to find a direct comparison but I have seen plenty of opinion that the One X is the better screen (which I happen to agree with).
Regardless of all that, screen quality is subjective. Frankly I don’t give a shit what other people think of my phone screen as long as I’m happy with it. And everyone else is allowed to be happy with theirs, even if I think it looks like shit. This also applies to the size of the phone. The mere fact that you are concerned about how I look when I hold my phone (and by extension, how you look when you hold your phone) simply speaks to your own insecurities. Meanwhile I’m enjoying a mix of technologies that best suit my lifestyle (I own and use an Android phone, an iPad and several Window 7/8 PCs daily) rather than blindly adhering to what one brand tells me is the best thing for everyone.
Halleluja!!!
Finally someone with a brain.
You use what you want and what fits to your needs. Everybody should be like this.
I have an iPad, an Android phone (No Samsung… They hadn’t what I need), MS Win7/8 client, Linux Servers etc etc etc (Ok… I know…).
Diversity is good and improves productivity (Professional and personal).
Hopefully some people here will learn from that.
I disagree. For various reasons, I am forced into precisely the kind of diversity you talk about (Windows desktop in office, Mac OS at home, cheap Android phone, personal iPad, Linux servers). My life would be infinitely simpler, easier and, most importantly, much more productive if I were allowed to migrate all of my devices to all-Apple platforms. As it is, I manage to get the most out of this disparate mishmash of mutually incompatible systems and technologies, bridging them using various add-on third-party solutions, some of which work well, some not so well, and it all functions. If circumstances of my life allowed me to choose all my devices based on usability criteria, it would be Apple all across the board, as I would then need no third-party solutions to make it all work together, and I would save extra 15 minutes of my every day on circumventing various incompatibilities between my heterogeneous devices. Add that together, and I waste about four days of my life per year because I can’t have an iPhone and a Mac desktop at work. I can think of plenty fun thing I could do for those four days.
Hi Predrag,
Nice to have a decent talk with someone here 🙂
I understand your viewpoint if the homogeneous ecosystem you talk about (Apple in your case) does what you want…
What is if it doesn’t?
I work as system engineer in a company with very different needs. We have 3 Macs for 600 users (And they are a real pain).
Most tablets are iPads… No problem with them except for some minor compatibility issues with Office products.
For all the rest we couldn’t use Apple products (phone or computers) simply because they weren’t able to do what we needed.
If, in your daily job, an Apple computer is indicated, I hope you’ll be able to convince your IT to provide you one 🙂
In my company, Apples ecosystem is simply not possible and would provide a homogeneous disaster.
This is the problem; at work, the IT operations use the most common reasoning for adopting Lenovo desktop computers (they are cheap). While there are Macs in the environment, they are unsupported by the IT (no big problem here, as I can do it myself), and their purchase has to go through all sorts of hoops. Vast majority of workers could easily get their job done on Macs, but this is simply out of the question for our IT. Reasons are in fact reasonably valid at this point (the massive investment in the Windows eco-system and expertise being just one of them), but that still doesn’t help me.
I think my main point is that I believe vast majority of small/medium customers could have their business needs met comfortably with an all-Apple solution. in my personal case, that would give me a lot more free time (and I imagine, plenty of my colleagues would feel the same).
Diversity may not always be universally better.
Computer purchase price is not the problem.
A “workstation” costs between 7000 and 9000$ yearly to be operate. This includes:
– Purchase price
– Licenses
– Maintenance costs
Maintenance costs on Apple are much higher than on PCs and THIS is a real stopper. (See below)
Then you say :
– they are unsupported by the IT (no big problem here, as I can do it myself)…
Sorry but NO!!! That’s pure hell. Everyone has it’s own idea of how IT should be. There would be as many configurations as there are workers… And one thing is sure. These users are all experts until something goes wrong and then it’s the IT which must found out what they broke.
You forgot to mention that most productivity software simply don’t exist for Macs
Finally one point you didn’t address. Global system tuning… With active directory and GPOs you can fine-tune systems to a level that is totally impossible on a Mac… You need 3 IT guys to manage the same amount of Macs than 1 PC IT guy can manage.
I will disagree with you here again. I have been in the IT support field for some 15 years, before recently moving into communications, so I know exactly how IT support works in an enterprise-sized organisation. My example is fairly typical; it is an organisation with some 10,000 users in HQ in NYC, and another 40,000 users in other places around the globe. I can understand why it would be impossible (and prohibitively expensive anyway) to migrate away from the MS-centric solutions at this point. However, as there already ARE several hundred Macs in the organisation (even though IT operations officially DO NOT support them), I would be perfectly happy supporting my own Mac (as most other Mac users, much less knowledgeable than me, already are). Funny thing; our IT operations pay frequent visits fielding support requests from desktop users on Windows; meanwhile, our Mac users seem to have very rare support issues.
I am not quite sure what you mean when you say ‘global system tuning’. In our organisation, there is a vast amount of autonomy left to the desktop user (every user is an admin on their desktop, and apparently, very very few abuse the privilege). We are still on Windows XP, and migration to 7 is planned in the next two to three years. No productivity software packages used on our Lenovo PCs is unique to Windows (Office suite, Adobe suite, X-11, Lotus Notes — all available on Mac). Realistically, under current conditions, probably some 25,000 users could easily switch to Macs tomorrow and have all the necessary tools to be just as productive as yesterday on Windows. Obviously, this will never happen. The point remains, though; there are many business situations where homogeneous Apple solutions could work perfectly fine.
Agreed, use what works for you.
Personally the 4S is the right size for a phone, and I am fortunate to have an IPad for actual web use. I don’t need, nor particularly want, a 5 inch phone.
Everyone is different, and what works for one doesn’t always work for others. I like Apple products, and I trust the company. I don’t particularly like the idea of my phone not being able to upgrade the OS like most Android devices, which turns them into throwaway items.
Just my 2 cents.
No problem with that…
As I mentioned in another post, the upgrade problem is the only one that also bothers me… I hope it will be addressed once but that won’t be soon.
About the size I agree with you. I had difficulties to find an “only” 4.5” phone in these “high-end” Chinese phones. They all seem to run after the biggest possible screen :-/
He’s the senior VP of Marketing. Do you know what “marketing” is? Get over it.
Thanks for the well thought out, constructive feedback. Here I was thinking that Novad and predrag were being, if anything, too thoughtful about the whole thing.
If there is such market demand for large screens why does the 3.5 inch 4S outsell the large screen S III?
China as well as India have a lot of local brands which make decent Smartphones.
These population prefer to buy “local” the same way as US citizen buy US cars instead of Korean cars.
Samsung’s sells drop (Good if you consider Samsung as the ennemy) but it’s not Apple which gets the customers instead.
I was pissed of with carrying two phones (Professional phone and private phone) and gave a try with a dual sim Chinese Android 4.1 phone. It’s really not a “cheap” phone (Even if the price was ~250$). Specs are good, Android 4.1 is a good system (Sorry guys… Simply the truth) and over all… IT DOES WHAT I WANT.
Only 6 months ago I thought Android phone where “OK for the price” phones. Now that I use one on a daily basis, my opinion has drastically changed. Actually it’s the iPhone that has to catch up with high end Android phones, not the opposite.
I’m sure you’ll come to the same conclusion 😉
As a two-year user of an Android phone, and an two-year iOS user (on an iPad and iPod touch), I will completely disagree with this statement. Even with the Ice Cream Sandwitch or Jelly Bean, Android still exhibits the same serious problems it has since its inception. The interface is inconsistent, often slow (for fundamental, structural reasons), software code is inefficient, draining the battery far too rapidly, and everything that has ever been said about Android’s shortcomings continues to remain true.
If I could, I’d switch to an iPhone in a heartbeat. Since I can’t I’m stuck with its inferior copy. While it is still infinitely better than my old “dumbphone”, it will likely never be as good as iOS.
There is a reason why iOS remains so dominant, despite being so prohibitively expensive for the most of the world population out there.
On this one we will simply not agree
– Inconsistent interface:
Hum… No. If you use HTC or SAMSUNG you get their additional crapware which i don’t appreciate either… Simply take a Vanilla Android and you will happy. There are enough makers who provide native Android experience. Choose what fits to you.
– Slow:
Simply untrue… I can’t say for every model… I haven’t tested them all 😉 . But I can hardly notice any difference between my iPhone and my Android phone. If you compared with an 80$ phone OK…
– Battery:
3 days usage before I have to recharge. I’m OK with that 🙂 My iPhone is even a bit less.
The only REAL problem I have with these phones are updates… I know there won’t be many of them before I have to install an alternative ROM (If I really want to). On the other side, I could also buy a new one for the price… One every year is still cheaper than an iPhone every 3 years and hardware evolves during that time
I know that they were taught to never say “What would Steve do?” but they really should sometimes. This gives SS fodder, makes them smell the fear.
I just have a hard time believing what I am seeing, I cannot fathom Steve doing this – Yes, he answered Antennagate but by showing the problem was industry-wide, – Yes, he penned an open letter attacking Flash but he backed it up with facts and it came true.
This, from Schiller, sounds like a cry-baby, babbling to his best friend that Johnny’s big new trikey isn’t better b/c it’s new.
Phil, Tim, shut the hell up and deliver some innovative products, quit whining about your “competition”, you are validating them, people can see through to your fear, it sickens me.
This is is nuts. Strange to see Apple missing the oncoming train again.
Everything Phil said is likely true, but might want to be careful not to come across as a Balmer. Dissing and dismissing the competition while quoting market share.
Very true. This weekend I watched in amazement a friend with an android phone trying to figure out how to attach a picture to email. He could text the picture, but could never figure out how to get same picture through and email. My and my iphone buddy just sat back and shook our heads. He was so frustrated, about ready to chuck the phone in the middle of the street. Now that is an android experience for you.
Are you serious???
Once you write your mail you click on the menu button and select “Add picture”… Wow… So complicated…
Or your friend is brain-dead (sorry for him) or your story is BS
My turn to tell a story:
A friend with an iPhone received a video through WhatsApp… She wanted to give me this video (I didn’t use WhatsApp at that time).
There was no iTunes on the PC (work computer)… Well… She has never achieved to give me this video.
something similar happened to me… What did I do? :
– Save video to SD
– Connect USB cable
– Copy file from phone like an USB stick
Wow… So complicated (again)…
Novad,
You left out a few details in the process. At least, this is my experience. Whenever I have to mount my phone as a USB storage device, it is a crap shoot. I hook it up to the host computer, the phone pops up a message. I have to tap the button to use the device as a USB storage. This causes two things: first, it has to shut down ALL apps that are actually stored on the external SD card, so that it can dismount that SD card from the internal OS and assign it to the USB port as an external storage device. Once all the apps are stopped, it puts the phone into external storage mode. Every time I do this, I have to try multiple times. The process apparently times out while the phone is diligently waiting for apps to close one by one, so I have to tap more than once (sometimes, three times) before the USB storage mode is actually functional. The process usually takes two to three minutes.
Then, when the process is over and I dismount the volume from my host computer, the phone will behave differently, depending on whether it is Windows or Mac host. If it was a Mac, the phone would report that the USB volume was dismounted and that USB cable can be disconnected. With windows, it will stay connected, and unplugging the USB cable can cause various unpredictable consequences. Most often, the phone would drop the USB connection, but would NOT automatically re-mount the SD card to its own OS, making all apps installed on it inaccessible (as well as all other media files). Re-booting the phone would be the only way to get the SD card properly re-mounted (and no, unmounting and re-mounting from the sysstem settings wouldn’t do it).
So, yes; your process technically functional, but far from consistently simple and intuitive.
Untrue (At least for me)
I admit that I omitted the part where I selected “Use as USB storage”. In fact it’s so “automatic” that I didn’t even thought about it.
For the rest no…
First about the apps. Yes… Those which use the SD are suspended… That’s not a drama. on my iPhone everything is suspended as soon as i do something else… This doesn’t seem to bother much iPhone users 😉
What you say about the chaotic behavior when you connect/disconnect the cable is wrong (A least on every half-way modern computer). I never ever experienced any of the problem you described. I should test what you say on old unpatched XP computers to see if I can reproduce it, but on Vista/7/8 this never happened.
I think there is a fundamental difference in the way iPhone suspends apps and the way Android terminates them when the SD card is unmounted / ejected. The apps simply never resume, even in a situation where the unmounting from the desktop completes gracefully and the card is automatically re-mounted on the Android. This has been my experience from Froyo to ICS. Unless JB changed something and it now works differently.
As for the unmounting complications, at work, we have only XP (patched up to date), and both laptops and desktops exhibit the same behaviour. I haven’t tried Win 7 yet, so I can’t say.
The man doth protest too much, methinks.
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