Google’s Schmidt: Apple not responding with innovation, they’re responding with lawsuits

“Google has launched a stinging attack on major mobile phone rival Apple, saying its smartphone lawsuits are inspired by jealousy and a lack of innovation in its own iPhone,” Jennifer Dudley-Nicholson reports for Perth Now.

“The criticism, by former Google CEO and now executive chairman Eric Schmidt, follows the US International Trade Commissions initial ruling that HTC infringed two of Apple’s phone patents in its Google Android-based phones,” Dudley-Nicholson reports. “If upheld, the decision could see Apple force other Android phone makers to pay significant royalties to their main competitor.”

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Dudley-Nicholson reports, “Speaking at Google’s Mobile Revolution conference in Tokyo, Mr Schmidt said Apple’s case was inspired by jealousy and designed to shut down its fastest-growing rival. ‘The big news in the past year has been the explosion of Google Android handsets and this means our competitors are responding,’ he said. ‘Because they are not responding with innovation, they’re responding with lawsuits. We have not done anything wrong and these lawsuits are just inspired by our success.'”

MacDailyNews Take: Success:
Changewave: Apple iPhone demand outgrows Android phones in 2011 – July 18, 2011
• Analyst: Apple takes 50% of handset industry profits ahead of 100 million iPhone year – July 8, 2011
• Nielsen: Apple iPhone drives U.S. smartphone growth as Android stagnates – June 30, 2011

Full article here.

MacDailyNews Take: 🙂 Google’s fear is palpable as evidenced by Schmidt’s increasingly nonsensical statements.

As the dominoes begin to tumble, do know evil Google is cracking.

As Eric T. Mole likely knows well, this time around there’s no poorly-written contract signed by an unprepared sugared water salesbozo for those inclined to rip-off Apple’s IP to hide behind.

We’ve been pushing the state-of-the-art in every facet of design… We’ve been innovating like crazy for the last few years on this and we’ve filed for over 200 patents for all of the inventions in iPhone. And we intend to protect them.Apple CEO Steve Jobs when unveiling iPhone, January 9, 2007

We like competition as long as they don’t rip off our IP, in which case we will go after them. We will not stand for having our IP ripped-off and we will use any weapons at our disposal [to stop it].Apple COO Tim Cook, January 21, 2009

Don’t steal IP.

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HTC to appeal U.S. ITC ruling that company infringed on Apple patents – July 18, 2011
Apple’s U.S. ITC patent victory threatens future of Google’s Android – July 16, 2011
How Google’s Android infringes on Apple’s patents in U.S. ITC determination – July 16, 2011
U.S. ITC finds HTC infringed upon Apple patents – July 15, 2011
HTC decries ‘Apple’s constant attempts at litigations instead of competing fairly in the market’ – July 12, 2011
HTC stock tumbles after Apple’s new patent lawsuit – July 12, 2011
Apple’s second ITC complaint against HTC Android products dissected – July 11, 2011
Apple files second U.S. ITC trade complaint against HTC, seeks to block HTC imports – July 11, 2011
Steve Jobs loads up on high-powered legal team to protect Apple’s intellectual property – April 22, 2010
Apple’s patent infringement lawsuit: The elephant in HTC’s new headquarters – April 2, 2010
Apple patent infringement lawsuit applies pressure to HTC – March 3, 2010
Apple puts the entire industry on notice by suing HTC for patent infringement – March 03, 2010
What Apple vs. HTC could mean for the future of mobile devices – March 03, 2010
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The specific Apple patents over which Apple is suing HTC – March 02, 2010
Boom! Apple sues HTC for infringing on 20 iPhone patents – March 02, 2010

121 Comments

  1. I say ,gloves off apple .it’s time to crush them ! I am switching my search engine to bing.everyone should .google makes nothing and steals everything .game over google .

    1. I would switch to Bing…if it worked. I’ve tried it and will try it again. How many years does it take to develop a functioning search engine? Maybe Balmer is overseeing the effort personally.

      1. I never liked Bing either. Then I saw where they were being accused of using Google search results.

        But now I’m wondering if Google accused them of using their results… just like their accusing Apple of lacking innovation.

      2. I’d hold off for Apple search. They’re planning another massive data center across the street from the NC one. I wonder what that will be for? You know Apple has something up their sleeves.

        1. “Every major computer maker” you say?

          Which “EVERY” are those?

          I worked as a contractor for 2 of these “major computer makers” and the Mac was nowhere to be found. In fact both of them use their OWN branded workstations for producing marketing materials. You see products like Photoshop, Illustrator, & Dreamweaver work as well on PCs as they do on Macs.

          It’s a big deal when the very server infrastructure that your company needs has to rely on the competing brand. Apple is not alone with this, heck even M$FT has to run Unix here and there.

          Personally, I like the Mac and will probably be ordering my new Mac Mini next week. I’m no loyalist, however to either MSFT or Apple.

          It just amuses me when I read the fan-boy postings and how they get all giddy when something new and shiny comes along.

          I’ve been working with tech since 1982 and I’ve pretty much seen it all:
          –Banyan Vines
          –Netware
          –Lantastic
          –Windows 1.x
          –Macintosh
          –OS/2
          –DOS
          –CP/M

        2. I call bullshit… I’ve been in the industry since ’92 and ALL creative depts. utilize a Mac at some point in the process. Get your head outta the sand bro.

        3. You can be in denial all you want, but all of them are not as you put it: “packed full of Macs”. One of my closest buddies is a computer design engineer at one of these major manufacturers and he and I worked together on a project that went through and replaced older model workstations with newer ones.

          You can and probably will believe what you want, but I was there and got PAID (quite well) to assist on that desktop infrastructure project. My team was also responsible for license management of the Adobe software and I assure you none of them were Mac licenses.

          Don’t change your statement now.

          You said: “packed full of Macs”
          And now you say: “utilize a Mac at some point in the process”

          Unreal! I worked on that project for their PGMA team (i.e. Policy, Government and Marketing Affairs) and this guy essentially says: “bullshit” LOL!!!!!

          Oh well, you can’t convince someone that’s in denial. It hurts to hear the truth.

    2. The only Bing that I like is Bing Crosby. Microsoft isn’t exactly a paragon of virtue, John. I hold grudges, and that’s why I have stayed away from Bing. I suppose that Yahoo is an option.

      If I have to boycott all of the evil companies, I won’t have many choices left…

  2. Pure hypocrisy from the company that cut and pasted Oracle code into Android.

    Android suddenly changed direction once Apple showed how to do it right with the iPhone and the iPad.

    1. Where did Google paste Oracle code into Android?

      For one the Java VM is a stack machine, while Dalvik is register based. Very different underlying architectures.

      The only code I have ever seen that Oracle claimed was stolen was some Sun Java modules which do not ship in Dalvik and were used to verify that Dalvik produced compatible byte-code.

      Oracle is claiming patent infringement relating to Java. Considering that Sun open sourced the java JDK all they are really doing is creating FUD against their own platform. Essentially they are sending the message “if you use Java, regardless of the license, we reserve the right to sue you”

      Makes MS look like a trustworthy saint.

      1. Dude – Please review the links below. Google’s “cut and pasted Oracle code” is almost certainly in violation of the terms of the GPL.

        http://fosspatents.blogspot.com/2011/03/googles-android-faces-serious-linux.html

        http://fosspatents.blogspot.com/2011/03/more-evidence-of-googles-habit-of-gpl.html

        […] there are over 100 files with express copyright statements and GPL license notices and more than 60 distinct express copyright holders in the original Linux kernel headers that Google “borrowed” for Android.

        The fact that such notices are added to header files shows that the authors of the programs in question consider the headers copyrightable. Also, without copyright, there’s no way to put material under a license such as the GPL.

        Google cuts out all those notices and replace them with its own “no copyrightable material” notice. It clearly says something that Google is uncomfortable with those notices and sees a need to remove them. In many header files the copyright and GPL notice is the only part to be removed. If, as some have contended, header files are not copyrightable, why bother removing the notice at all?

        1. Ive seen them before, thats an issue of removing GPL license data from linux header files.

          Im looking for proof of oracle’s code being copied.

  3. Innovation:
    The mole wants Applem nnovation to turn Time Machine ( the software) into the real thing. That’s about the only sorry way he’ll get out of his backstabbing screwups.

    Anyone remember the state of the cellphone before iPhone?

  4. U innovate and when competitors steal your innovations instead doing the work themselves, you shrug it off & innovate some more (for them to steal). Why bother with R&D costs?

  5. what?!
    1. Apple DID and are the only ones really INNOVATING!!

    2. Apple SUES because even Google who bitches is stealing from apple + oracle + sony + microsoft etc. what the fsck is this schmuck ceo schmidt talking @?! competitors to apple not only never think but they blatantly copy every mm of apple, from hardware to industrial design to color ads – come on! they can’t even think up original colors for peep’s sake!! how stupid can humans be – ET wouldn’t bother flying by ever again, if all we could offer is Google shit.

    3. solution for google: Schmidt – go get LAID. you truly need it…as you’re acting like an asshole, like a droid robot, not human with brain of your own. learn from Clinton’s blow. he was more creative & smarter for it. relax. create. don’t steal.

    4. apple did warn with 1st iPhone in june 2007 that they patented the shit out of it, they did WARN all no longer to copy apple. as steve jobs said: competition is good, just don’t steal.

    5. if google cries over spilled MILK, let them cry. why should we users care. they have lost their mojo since 1998 Sep 4, the day of the zen engine. they have all these brainless brains innovating 100s of services, yet none are viable except search & ads. apple meanwhile went from near bankruptcy or a small co. into the world’s biggest after Exxon!! apple did not do this through google-like laziness, Mr. Schmidt.

    by the way, Eric, did you just lose the Nortel mega patent sale? stop complaining loser. get laid. innovate. think different. lead, don’t follow.

    thx 2 so mucho 4 yr mojo, but that was innovation in 1998. what have you done for me lately? nada cabronsito.

    1. Exactly. It’s like Schmidt thinks the iOS team also doubles as the legal team. It is possible to make new products AND sue people. Plus, how does he know the next iPhone isn’t innovating? He sure as shit isn’t getting a sneak peak like the old days.

  6. Google innovated alright- just exactly like Microsoft innovated. Watch, examine, and copy.

    If they wish to have proof of Googles innovation. Just compare Android before and after the appearane of the iPhone. See how much visual innovation Goggle had done without the non-innovator Apple- Duh!!

    Eric….. Walk away while you are ahead!!

  7. Oh where to begin…
    If I get this right, Schmidt doesn’t believe in judicial system to arbitrate differences and/or to deliver rulings to protect/compensate victims against frauds and blatant thievery, in a democracy (or republic in this instance)? What are the alternatives then? Innovate, he said.

    How may an actual victim respond with that? Go back to drawing board in a humbled head and try something new again, while keeping the fingers crossed that someone won’t steal again out of sheer decency this time around?

    I guess, Schmidt is the shining example of this innovative method by “innovating” a competing product “with due disclosures”, all the while retaining membership on the would be competing board.

    Class, if you don’t have it, at least try to emulate it. Instead Google here continues to stink with Schmidt hitting (pandering to) the fans (Droidnistas) in more innovative fashions.

  8. I don’t understand. Google, who COPIED the iPhone, is claiming Apple cannot innovate? I’d be willing to agree with Google if — AND ONLY IF — they go back to their original, prototype design of Android (read: a Blackberry clone). Then, perhaps, Google can complain.

    It’s sad, really, because at one time, I would have considered Google another computer company I would have purchased from. Instead, they want to be this decade’s Microsoft.

  9. Whether Apple is suing or being sued, I, for one am tired of the US patent systen, especially when it comes to IP type patents. Many are obtuse patents and are more common sense that real innovation.

    That said, this is the system that we have brought upon ourselves, so it’s Apple’s right wihin the law to protect their property.

    HTC pays MSFT something like $5 for every phone. Some precedents have been set already. I don’t tink Apple really wants to stop the competition, but they to want to collect, or a least have leverage to cross-license where Apple has been found in the wrong. And yes, Apple has been on the losing side of many patent issues themselves.

    1. Apple doesn’t want licensing fees, it wants to send the message that you can’t walk over them and use their shit to compete with them. They are fine with competition, as long as you arent ripping them off and despite what Schmidt says, it appears that android is one big copyright infringement from the other tech companies.

  10. Maybe if Google would innovate themselves instead of copying Apple’s products, Apple wouldn’t have to respond with lawsuits. Apple is the only one innovating. No other company came out with a smartphone like the iPhone. No other company came out with an iPad. No other company develops there own hardware and software. Apple has the right to protect there Patented products just as much as any other company.

  11. Google’s ass backwards ‘innovations’:

    – Google . Ripped off Facebook.
    – Search. Ripped off Alta Vista, Yahoo, et al.
    – Maps. Ripped off Mapquest. 
    – Picasa. Ripped off iPhoto. 
    – Mail. Ripped off Hotmail. 
    – Android. Ripped off iOS. 
    – Location services. Ripped off Skyhook. 
    – Tablet OS. Ripped off iPad. 
    – Google Voice. Ripped off Skype. 
    – Translate. Ripped off Babelfish. 
    – Chrome browser. Ripped off Safari Webkit. 
    – Chrome OS. See above. 
    – News. Ripped off Yahoo News. 
    – Docs. Ripped off Open Office. 
    – Code. Ripped off Linux, Java, et al. 
    – Eric Schmidt management style. Ripped off Steve Jobs.
    – Larry Page. See above. 

    I think I’ve covered the most egregious aspects of their photocopying. In this respect Google surpasses Microsoft as ripoff artists. 

    1. so well put.
      straight to the point.
      give us more…

      schmidt ist ein grosses arschloch luegner. hypocrit!

      oh and, your nickname: ballmer’s left nut is the funniest ever. i love your creativity & daring balls (cojones in today’s politically but not truthfully correct era ; ) thanks!

    2. Don’t forget Google’s useless chat service, Google Talk.

      And they already have a social networking site.. Orkut. But they failed at it, and it was taken over by Brazilians. (really)

      Oh, and they’re trying to be “open” with WebM.. the video codecs that they bought up. Trying to get into the market (and thus control it) by bringing up the word “open” – we see where that’s led..

    3. Dude take another hit off the pipe man! Are you kidding me?

      Using your twisted logic its safe to say that Apple has at the least ‘ripped off’ the following technologies:

      Safari Webkit – Ripped off from KHTML
      OS X – Ripped off from BSD UNIX
      iWork – Ripped off MS Office and Open Office
      Numbers – Ripped off Excel which ripped off VisiCalc
      iTunes – Ripped off WinAmp
      OS X Dashboard – Ripped off Konfabulator
      iWeb – Ripped off HomeSite
      iPhoto – Ripped off ACDSee
      etc. etc. etc.

      Are you seeing just how ridiculous this all is?

      1. Are you fricken kidding me? lol!

        What does this have to do with Google’s intellectual properties?

        Answer: NOTHING!

        Google stole Apple’s IP and there’s nothing that can be said differently about that fact.

        Another note: BSD Unix is the underlying architecture for Mac OS X and wasn’t “ripped off”.

  12. Success isn’t surveys or projected demand…. Success is real nbers and Android is killing IPhone.

    iOS only grew 1% in market share. Android has grown at an alarming rate and that is why Apple is suing. They can’t win it so they sue.

    Next up… Windows Phone 7 to beat iOS. Haha

    1. Marco, my son, what alternate universe are you living in?

      Android’s growth has slowed dramatically vs iPhone. This fall will all but finish off Android. Developers are dropping Android as a failure for them, fun to play with but no money for those who have a real life.

      Marco you need to read something other than fandroid dog dung otherwise you are going to be in for the shock of your life soon.

    2. @Marco, I disagree. Success is profit, not market share. How successful is a free platform, making next to no profit on devices (think BOGOFs) or Apps? If you want to read good analysis on the smartphone market visit asymco.com.
      BTW, WTF do you post on this website?

    3. Actually, apple is required to defend their IP; if they don’t, it will be considered abandoned.

      That’s the way property law works. For instance, if you let strangers walk through your yard everyday, then your inaction gives them legal “right-of-way.”

      The same principal holds for IP. Apple must take action, or lose their rights.

      Google’s statement is just market posturing.

        1. Madam, I don’t think I like that you are deducing that I should have stated GeeOne was implying.

          Oh the humanities that we should suffer these intolerant English teachers. You need to be more accepting of people educated in the Ca. public edu system otherwise we can never find ramifications to the enigmas that stipulate our great collective’s endeavors. Your ignorance emboldens us all with pride that oozes over with a smegma like effervescence.

          Ah- Hah, heh hah haha ah, cough e-hem ha, uh oh. Sorry I had a hair in my mouth, eww.

      1. sir or madam- Um like I totally don’t remember Google making a Mac computer. You are obviously some sort of a high tech “troll” trying to throw me off with your “Logics” (yes- plural).

        Stop inferring where I need to post my comments and also please stop inferring where I get my news. I’m a proud MSCBS customer, I love that Larry King sportcaster fellow.
        Also, it’s evidently clear from the hierarchal structure of this comment forum that you are responding to my comment there’s no need to use “@Steev”.

        Sheesh- This webpage is just dripping with ignorance.

    1. Despite the thin skin of his fan club, the Obama comments are fair… it’s not like he isn’t up to his eyeballs in both former Google execs and campaign funds from the company.

      His administration has also directed the NSA to get very chummy with their information mining services as well, which is about a billion times more disturbing than anything in the Patriot Act.

      But if you’re a fan of Obama, of course you must rush to his defense at even the slightest hint of a critique. The fact of the matter is that this bozo is 100% corrupt and has made an ally of Google in both his campaigning efforts and has positioned both their people and interests into the highest levels of our government. Shadier than Nixon at an umbrella convention.

      http://money.cnn.com/2009/10/21/technology/obama_google.fortune/
      http://bits.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/05/29/googles-top-policy-exec-to-join-obama-administration/
      http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/1210/HHS_buys_ObamaCare.html
      http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1108/15487.html

      Above some nice liberal leaning news orgs for you if Fox is taboo. I suggest you r-tards start reading more, maybe more Reason.com? Please stop playing diaper games with your stupid fantasy political fan clubs, isn’t there a Twilight movie you can masturbate to instead?

      GeeOne, janeshepard, 3monkies, nfgibson… your punk cards = pulled.

        1. I’m not using caps, perfectly calm here and having way too much fun.

          If you’re just here for tech, you certainly waded into water unfamiliar… ya? Slap!

  13. I’m somewhere in the middle on the whole thing and just cannot pick a side personally.

    On the one hand Google has done some really slick things with Android and the OS was far more ‘cloud’ aware than iOS far sooner. I can see the fear the Google might have over becoming marginalized in the industry if they had just stuck to the road of being a ‘search’ company.

    On the other hand I can see where Apple is flat out pissed off after seeing the Android UI and feels that they have been ‘robbed’. Esp with Eric on the BOD and considering the history of what happened with the GUI in MacOS I’m not shocked that the Apple response is harsh.

    In the end I hope both operating systems have a long life and make inroads into new devices and products.

    Really the only ones who will ‘lose’ if we have less choice in mobile operating systems is the consumer. Google or Apple would just shift gears in another direction if tomorrow iOS or Android were gone from the market. You and I would have one less choice however and I don’t consider that a good thing.

    1. Choice? lol!

      Google isn’t giving you “choice”. If Google innovated instead of copied, we’d have more choices. Instead, what we have is iOS, and a subpar bastardized version of iOS via Android. Choice is good when there are actual choices to make. Google’s could have been innovative and not stolen Apple’s IP and given us a choice but they didn’t take that route.

      This leaves Apple no choice but to sue Google.

      Compare the two ecosystems (iOS and Android) with the reasons they were created. Apple made iOS for consumers. Google made the iOS rip off called “Android” for advertising. You are in effect Google’s product when you buy into Android. Great choice heh?

    2. “You and I would have one less choice however and I don’t consider that a good thing.”

      When your choice is a sizzling porterhouse steak or cow flop you already have one less choice. The steak and the cow flop both come from the same place but they are vastly different.

      Kind of like iPhone vs Android phones. Google copied and still screwed it up.

      1. “When your choice is a sizzling porterhouse steak or cow flop you already have one less choice. The steak and the cow flop both come from the same place but they are vastly different.”

        Dogs love cow flop. It sort of explains the existence of fandroids.

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