“Is Adobe’s Flash player reader to play nice with Apple? Maybe. For the past year I’ve deleted and installed about a dozen updated versions of Flash. Each time I’ve been disappointed,” Ron McElfresh reports for Mac360. “For a long time Flash was the single greatest cause of Safari crashes. Flash has a history of being slow and buggy. Is it any wonder Apple prevents Flash on iPhone and iPad? Is the new Flash better?”
“The latest Flash player is almost the best Flash I’ve used on a Mac,” McElfresh reports. “Some might say the best Flash is no Flash.”
McElfresh reports, “What the latest Flash boils down to is this. Following Apple’s public castigating of Flash on iDevices, Adobe apparently hunkered down to protect the franchise by actually improving the product. Yes, YMMV (your mileage may vary), but while we’re waiting for the web authorities to figure out a standardized way to deliver video and audio that works seamlessly in all browsers, there’s yet another Flash player to test.”
Read more in the full article here.
Well, well, well.
Maybe I’ll give it a try and comment later!
I haven’t noticed any difference after the update.
I read somewhere that flash developers have to update their content to take advantage of 10.2’s hardware acceleration. Has Adobe released any documentation on how to do that? It would be nice if I could at least make flash on my websites not suck as much.
Yes that’s correct. And yes, they have. Google is currently working on it for YouTube, as are a number of other sites.
Is that not like Microsoft saying “it’s our most secure operating system to date.” It’s still crap but it’s better crap.
The best thing we can all do for Flash is stop installing it.
Over time, web developers will see that many users don’t use Flash, and they’ll start deploying modern HTML5 methods instead of Flash.
Too Little, Too Late. I uninstalled Flash on my MBP a while back and don’t plan to subject myself to it anymore.
Was the announcement Flash 10.2 responsible for the, ahem, flash-crash of Apple stock at about 13:25?
There are two primary and conflicting issues surrounding Flash.
1. There are over 150 million iOS devices that do not show Flash content. Developers of interactive and multimedia content are surely aware they’re missing out on a massive audience. Not to mention millions of Android users who can’t use existing flash content that relies on mouse-over events for navigation (vast majority of all Flash content);
2. Firefox is still second most widely used web browser, which makes adoption of H.264 via HTML5 for web video a non-starter for foreseeable future. Mozilla foundation simply can’t afford $6M per year for a MPEG-4 license, and until someone else volunteers to foot that bill, Firefox won’t be supporting H.264 video rendering.
HTML5 implementation, as done in Safari (and MSIE9) seems to be reliable enough and consistent enough to show great promise. Unfortunately, since majority of that Flash content is H.264 video, and Firefox cannot render it without a third-party plug-in, the whole goal of standardising on HTML5 and MPEG-4 for the embedded video is pretty much torpedoed by Mozilla’s lack of money for the license.
Mac OS X and Windows can already play H.264 video with a paid the license.
I see no reason why Firefox would have to implement H.264 playback directly. That’s reinventing the wheel. Firefox should just use the OS’s native video playback API’s and be done with it.
The only people who would be left out is Linux Firefox users. I think most Linux users user mplayer for video, and can install video codecs themselves. Firefox could use mplayer’s video playback api. Or Linux Firefox users can come up with there own solution, but they shouldn’t hold back h.264 for the rest of world.
So, because of this article, I just downloaded 10.2 and ran it. Works worse than what I had before (as if that is possible). In less than ten minutes, I decided to use Time Machine (praise be to Jobs) to restore the previous version.
It is located in [volume name]>Library>Internet Plug-Ins>flashplayer.xpt
At least that’s what I restored. Someone please correct me if I’m wrong.
The article, or at least MDN’s summary, fails to mention that developers must update their players to take advantage of the new version.
I followed Gruber’s approach: uninstalling it from my Mac, so Safari and Firefox report correctly to the websites that no flash plugin is installed (which didn’t deliver the message when using ClickToFlash) and using Chrome for those websites that required Flash.
I’m happy with the setup and the only times I need to fire up Chrome is for helping my wife water the crops on FarmVille.
Well, I don’t trust their Shared Local Object (SLO) cookies, and can’t be bothered to find out anew what is their latest policies on those. Look it up on the wiki ASAP and save yourselves some privacy etc.
click 2 flash is the only way to go…..
the problem with using Click To Flash is the websites still count you as a flash user, which decreases their incentive to make their site non-flash friendly.
It’s better to do what Gruber suggests and uninstall Flash, but use Google Chrome for those few times you really need it.
http://daringfireball.net/2010/11/flash_free_and_cheating_with_google_chrome
Another thing I’ve noticed is a number of sites that “require flash” work just fine if I switch my User Agent string to iPad. Since I started doing this, I’ve noticed a few sites no longer require me to masquerade for them to work.
http://daringfireball.net/2010/11/masquerading_as_mobile_safari
I just uninstalled flash, and installed the Youtube 5 plugin for Safari. Works nicely. Netflix still works too… apparently it runs on Silverlight.
Unless you read what Saldin said, 2 posts above yours.
Been using the beta for a little while now. The only reason I installed it was because with 10.1, I was having this bizarre issue that made my Mac restart every time I clicked the fullscreen button on a video. Weird.
Anyway, that issue was resolved, and it does seem to be slightly more stable. It’s still obscenely slow, though. The biggest problem at the minute seems to be many websites don’t yet support 10.2, as I keep getting messages telling me to upgrade to 10.1 or later.
Flash is as ugly as the new site formar
I bet you MAC lemmings would be much happier with SilverLight.
And I bet you’d be much happier if you were doing something productive with your time rather than hurling insults. You do know you’re not going to get that five minutes of our life back, right?
Congratulations.
Flash. Schmash. Who cares? Get a life.
Just uninstalled flash. Safari and Firefox are running like utterly new kick ass software. Flash is cr_p. I’d use chrome to run it but I deleted it with malice it after Google’s stupid move to torpedo html 5… I haven’t missed flash on the iPad – let’s see how it goes on the desktop
Flash 10.1 would hang while trying to watch videos with hardware acceleration turned on. Had to turn it off.
Flash 10.2, now stalls Safari (spinning beachball) several times while trying to display ads on a regular page. Killed it, Safari is so much faster.
What a piece of crap!
Wow. Adumbo is still trying to convince us that they actually care about Mac users? Ummm hello! Adumbass has been screwing us over for years. So your too little and way to late. Were ready to move forward “without” FLASH bloodsucking crap!
Hope you Flash hating drones like JavaScript.
cool now the full screen work on multiples screens !
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