Full article here.
As Electronista reports, Gruber’s “sources have historically been accurate.”
[Thanks to MacDailyNews Reader “Fred Mertz” for the heads up.]
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Historically, I poop after dinner…
Mental masterbation continues. These faux new stories are a waste of time
Am I the only person is only mildly interested in tablet news?
I’d rather pontificate over the 4G iPhone!
No camera, that seems odd. I mean, most of travel would require a camera as a way to input images into applications for use. An example is a receipt of purchase.
I guess we will know if we get a tablet/slate computer or just rumors, but the camera is a mute point if no such device is going to be produced.
I believe it is a strong possiblity, but let us see what happens.
Does John Gruber serve his OWN “claim chowder” as well?
Makes sense.
If you want a camera, get an iPod nano.
Why would Apple not put an iSight on the iSlate? Apple could take the video conferencing market and make it theirs by offering a Windows iChat software. It worked with iTunes and it will work with iChat too.
Hmm…imagine how useful a tablet would be with a camera on the back…say for grabbing images of barcodes and other OCR type material that would be useful for verifying information in, say, a hospital. All sorts of inventory and data-type environments.
Makes sense … I guess. Is this an iPhone (not “good”) or a computer (“good”)? Oh, wait! My MacBook (and my wife’s iMac) has a camera.
How can you teleconference without a “tele”? Audio conference? Sure. Lower maintenance, for sure. Good enough? Hmm.
And what about those doctors wanting to use it to share patient info for remote diagnostics? Again, not so “good”.
Then again … RUMOR ! ! !
This is f’d up news if true!
Instead there will be a transporter portal in the thing
No wheels either!
yea the camera will come on the second generation, they gotta have a reason to get ppl to buy the new one next year. they famous for that keep something thats common for everyone else off and use some excuse like internet bandwidth wouldnt have been able to handle it on 3G connections and then throw it on the damn thing next year. Kinda like radios on ipods what happened to the oh u dont need it and and blah blah fast forward to today and they are on the nanos. if its not on it on the first gen it will make it onto the second gen
First gen is DOA with me if no webcam!
It would make much sense NOT to have one, so I kind of doubt this one. Virtually every Apple product comes with a camera. Only reason I could see would be a supply problem.
I heard it’s Fuel Cell and Solar Powered
RUMOR: Its going to have a 5mega pixel camera, its going to have a web cam, its going to have video conferencing, its not going to have a camera at all.
I really like today’s rumor. It clearly demonstrates that NOBODY knows what Apple is going to announce (if they do announce), nor do they know what that rumored device will include (if it includes anything at all).
Any speculation about the device, or its specs are pure wild ass guesses based on nothing. Purveyors of nothing (including MDN) aren’t spreading news, they are hit whores extreme.
Fuck ’em all.
Apple had a patent granted a couple of years ago where they talked about integrating a camera into an LCD display (not in the surround, but interspersing CCD elements into the spaces between the LCD pixels). Maybe “no camera” really means “no separate camera”?
Well, this is a 50-50 thing after all. Either it has it or it doesn’t.
Not much of a prediction either way.
Gruber is correct sometimes, and sometimes he isn’t.
We all can guess here, and some will be correct. It doesn’t mean that anybody knows anything, or has any insight.
It’s just a flip of the coin.
I would be more impressed if someone could describe the way a part of this tablet would work, and was correct.
That would mean something.
i read on this blog (link below) that the rumors about no camera are false and also the tablet will be completely different in design from iPhone.
http://techztalk.com/techwebsite/01-12-01-apples-upcoming-tablet-causing-10-inch-display-shortage
that would be so backward! Imagine a super sheik tablet – the Apple way – and an after-market, bolt-on web cam!
Of course there will be a web-cam – maybe it’s behind the screen!
this makes perfect sense
cheaper version: LCD, front facing camera, no bells and whistles
premium version: oled screen, front cam, back cam, other bells and whistles
Backs up my hypothesis all along that most Mac rumors are perpetrated by people meant to make Apple shares FALL on product announcement day so they can grab more for themselves long term. Do all iPod/iPhone/MBPs have all the conventional features we expect? No. Do they all WOW with something different and new? Yes. And of course Gen 2 and 3 will be home runs if not Gen 1.
It has a camera. No wait, it does not have one. No, it does. WTF just see what happens on the 27th.
I don’t see a need for a camera on a tablet.
Apple either will or will not release a tablet computer which may or nay not have a camera with a price between free and $1 million running either Mac OSX, the iPhone OS, some other OS, or no OS at all.
…at least that’s what my dog told me, and he is sometimes close to accurate on these guesses.
It wouldn’t really need a camera… just plug your “camera” into it’s usb port.
However, I was thinking this thing might use a provider or a wireless internet connection to video converence. That would have been cool…
Wake me when there’s a camera in the Shuffle.
er.. that was its not it’s
I heard it won’t have WiFi or a screen either.
If this shits true imma gonna jump head first into a wood chipper.
Fuk U Greg Therman. Go away.
A tablet camera? Remember the Speed Graphics that reporters used in the 1940s? That’s a big camera.
Rumors have it that the iTablet will actually be called eyeTablet, for it has a human replica of an EYE instead of the old fashioned web-cam
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RUMOR: There will be no iSlate/iPad, etc… it’s all just a ploy to keep the competition guessing what Apple will do next. I heard Apple is actually working with Microsoft to develop a new version of Windows that actually works well.
Apple as announced nothing! I repeat NOTHING!
Rumors mean nothing!
Apple might just announce the New iPhone/iPod touch OS and maybe a newer faster iPhone or even just lower prices on the current iPhone 3Gs and drop the 8GB 3G model.
Apple is the only one that knows for sure.
One more thing!
Apple could introduce a new game changing device that is not a Slate or Tablet or Netbook or eBook Reader and has nothing to do with any of them.
Rumor and speculation means nothing when the subject is Apple. Other then Apple as already changed the Tablet market by shear rumor. Think of it all the PC makers as rushed to spend millions to design new tablet PC and a few days maybe a week before CES when all these PC Tablets are to be shown someone finds islate.com might possibly have been bought by Apple with no direct concrete proof. But, all the industry needed was the rumor and at CES all the Tablet PCs were called slates. Now that is what I call Apple’s Power to transform a Market. A Market that well is still dead and a market that the punters see as being a very limited and uninteresting market to boot.
What I would find will more interesting in terms of a Slate or Tablet type device is not another device at all but a 10″ multi touch external monitor docking station/ case with a built-in large capacity battery for my current iPhone or iPod touch. I don’t need another device that has my data an Apps but some times a larger screen would be nice.
Tap a current market that Apple already has without creating a New one. Think about it.
And all the Apple Tablet Rumors just misdirection that as caused competitors to spend R&D;money that is well down the drain.
“RUMOR: […] its going to have video conferencing, its not going to have a camera at all.”
Actually, it was use an innovative process where it will take the picture you use for yourself and show the lips moving while you speak. Depending on your inflection, it will also adjust the eyes, eyebrows, and other facial muscles.
So you won’t need a camera to do video conferencing. You’ll just need a picture of yourself and the iTablet will do all the rest.
Apple will also sell a “Hollywood” pack where you can replace your picture with Brad Pitt, Julianne Hough, Johnny Depp, Brooke Burke, or Peter Andre.
Think Tethering™.
The screen itself will act as a virtual window. The camera as we know it will soon be obsolete.
@ Monger
Please explain this technology to me. How will the screen itself focus light into an image?
The camera isn’t ON the ipad, it is IN it, behind the screen.
RUMOR: Wind-Turbine Powered
This thing better have a camera, I just bought stock in OVTI…
I wouldn’t want a camera / webcam on the tablet… otherwise I’d have to trim my nose hairs! Constantly!! ; )
@C1
I think folks are referring to this:
http://www.appleinsider.com/articles/08/03/26/apples_patent_for_an_lcd_display_that_also_takes_photos_video.html
or this
http://www.appleinsider.com/articles/09/01/08/apple_files_patent_for_camera_hidden_behind_display.html
to continue the speculation on an unknown device with unknown specs and form factor….
if the “tablet” was just a bigger form factor iphone, just how would a camera work for video chat?
would you have to prop it up against the wall — then how would you “gesture”? if flat on the desk or lap, would folks get tired of looking up your nose and counting your nose hairs? not something I would want to stare at for long in a video chat
…as to stills, how would you take stills? holding it in two hands, running around taking a shot? how nerdy is that?
it seems to me that you need a certain form factor to make a built-in camera really work…..maybe this unknown device isn’t that form factor?
@ SL
Thanks! I hadn’t seen the first one for the ‘bug eye’ camera.
@MediaXYZ: “Apple had a patent granted a couple of years ago where they talked about integrating a camera into an LCD display (not in the surround, but interspersing CCD elements into the spaces between the LCD pixels). Maybe “no camera” really means ‘no separate camera’?”
Exactly! That would allow 3D control gestures where your fingers don’t actually touch the screen. That fits with the “interacting WAY differently” and “steep learning curve” rumors.
Well MDN???? Why aren’t you spouting insults about this? Why are you quiet???
moot point
chic tablet
rumour
whatever…. I am not interesting in Apple freaking tablet. it would not be cheap as typically they set the price point so far. no matter what it would be equipped with camera or not, if its price will go really $1000 or around, I will pass it. I can’t find a reason to buy that by the way. tablet is not really worthy of that price. I am just fine with my iphone. that’s enough. no more Apple surprise. I have lost interest any of it.
Well, I heard it’s not going to be equipped with photon torpedoes.
Remember, you heard it here first!
one more….
if you compare similar spec with PC (and laptops), Apple mac is way behind. price is really higher. you can’t even play ‘crysis’ with all high settings with your freaking macbook pro or whatever. I think that it is only good for mac pro. if you have $2000, you can buy very high end PC laptop with all ultimate spec.
here is a story that people buy mac. mostly they don’t know how dedicated graphic card or integrated card works when they use high demanded software or game. they just have no idea (most people). NVIDIA Geforce 9400M (only for Apple mac customized chip) is NOT DEDICATED graphic card. it’s similar like intel GMA 4500 chip. only difference is that it is little bit powerful. just look at macbook pro line. what they use for graphic. none of them use NVIDIA Geforce 9800GT or similar which is crap.
I saw a netbook at a wholesale club with a built in webcam.
Apple’s new device WILL have one if it wants to beat a $399 plastic junktop surfing device.
Yes, battery life is an issue, but don’t leave a camera off.
This is a short-sell promotion article, I think.
“Think Tethering™”
No thank you, its clunky and awkward tech.
MacTony: “I don’t see a need for a camera on a tablet.”
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Yeah, and Bill Gates didn’t see a need for more than 4k of memory. C’mon MacTony, you have to skate to where the puck is going to be, not where it is now.
RUMOR: No ice cream maker in Apple Tablet.
Here is a real thought: A 10″ tablet is too large to serve the function of an iPod music player. So what if they tablet assumes that you already have an iPod, and works with it wirelessly? You would use the iPod like a Wii remote, and use the iPod’s camera, so that you don’t have to lug a 10″ camera into place. Your other hand would be on the touch screen, creating all sorts of new combo inputs.
I hope it has a camera, then when you’re taking a picture I can come up and smack it into yo face.
Today’s headline news item… rumor has it that the rumored Apple tablet will not have webcam.
And in other news today…. rumor has it that the rumored Apple tablet will have a webcam. Non-details at 11.
http://macdailynews.com/index.php/weblog/comments/23604/
Apple at one time sold a digital camera.
Could the tablet or a related unreleased product challenge DSLRs?
I hope so.
Shoot me
I hear it won’t play FM radio…