“Haiku is now in alpha… [and] according to the Haiku web site, has a fully threaded design for use with multiprocessor CPUs, a custom kernel, a rich object oriented API and is aimed specifically at personal computing,” Shanti reports.
Full article here.
MacDailyNews Note: Haiku’s website states: “Haiku is a new open-source operating system that specifically targets personal computing. Inspired by the BeOS, Haiku is fast, simple to use, easy to learn and yet very powerful.” More info here.
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I thot Palm wasted a bunch of money buying BeOS. Wasn’t that a match made in heaven?
From Wikipedia “… in 2001 Be’s intellectual property was sold to Palm, Inc. for some $11 million.”
Tech guys may not know
Haiku is five, seven, five
Please try it again
I just have one question: Why?
hrmm.
i am a big fan of new and different, and i have 3 linux that i run on this macbook along with snow, but that looks like linux did…
…12 years ago.
before they learned to make the desktop look good.
Just sayin’.
Makes one realize how refined the OS X interface really is. Haiku isn’t as ugly as Windows, though. At least the text looks like text, not chicken scratch.
Wanted to let everyone know, Haiku does boot successfully in boot camp too.
Might be fun to install as a VMware Fusion virtual machine, if it will work that way. I’ll be giving it a try…
The Haiku guys are like the Windows guys. They refuse to embrace the future and are stuck in a time warp. They should be writing iPhone apps with their time and talent. Or optimizing gcc or something. Or helping improve Darwin. Or Freenet. Or something more useful to humanity!
You must have performed
An illegal instruction.
Haiku will now quit.
wow – that setup looks just like Linux, so does the Haiku terminal
they say that there is really no Linux or BSD Unix in this thing?
says 64 bit is something for the future?
I’m all for alternative operating systems, but not sure what this is for. I would like to see a Cocoa-like development setup for Linux and then X-Windows rewritten to operate like Max OS X and then see the Linux GUIs get stable and consistent. That would be some progress. They have the server thing down pat – the desktop is another story.
From the brief time I’ve spent looking at the Haiku site I wouldn’t dismiss it; the GUI may be dated but then they’re doing the best with what they have, and it seems an admirable attempt to me.
If they have the right support and the vision to go somewhere, that’s no bad thing for general OS development. (I like to think of it as another thorn in Microsoft’s – haemorrhaging – side, anyway).
Oh please, AmigaOS5 will eat that thing for breakfast.
Mm, lots of feedback on this news already.
It brings back memories.
Yet another time wasting soft, like so many.
Non-geek here, running this in 10 minutes (w/wmware)
look at me
Hmmm, desktop and menus sure look like a cross between Linux’s original KDE desktop and Sun’s Solaris. Unfortunately both of them are well over 10 years old. The “look” definitely needs updating!
PEOPLE!!! One word – RESEARCH!
BeOS looks like a 1990’s OS because it is. It’s proprietary nature has meant that no one could change the code including the GUI (until now, I presume). The only modifications that have been made over the last decade have been some skins and add-ons.
At the time, BeOS was the bees knees.
Wow, it does look like OS 9. Nostalgia!
Hope it continues and becomes another option.
BeOS technology should be dovetailed into Linux or Darwin if the geeks want to contribute something PRACTICAL to society. Otherwise, it’s like me showing you transporter technology but only just beaming little paperclips from my house to your house, and inviting their buddies over to see how cool that is and not actually doing anything USEFUL with it. Note that I said BeOS technology, and not BeOS in general. I actually know a thing or two about the mentality behind Be guys (it’s why they failed again and again, buyout after buyout, and continue to fail commercially).
Almost a big a shame as the loss of OS/2 to windoze 95, BeOS was a near miss that really deserved a fair chance. Unfortunately the scrouge of humanity: windoze and the gullible masses seemed to kill it off. Power to the folks refusing to let it die. Anything that isn’t windoze is a positive,
Just tried the VM. Boots in about 1/10th the time Win7 takes to boot. Granted it will be far more stripped down as an OS but still …
Looks like OS 9 to me. Still, it might offer something for the shameless rogues at Microshaft to steal.
Speaking of old operating systems, has anybody taken a look at the new Amiga 4 OS and how dated it looks?
First I’ll say I’m a Haiku developer which may mean I’m biased.
Firstly, Haiku is a recreation of BeOS, which means pretty much everything has been written from scratch based on just testing BeOS and doing reverse engineering. That’s what took 8 years, and we still aren’t done. Plus a lot of nice new stuff has been added.
There is some BeOS code in Haiku, mainly just Tracker and Deskbar (which Be open sourced before they went under) and some sample code. Tracker and Deskbar are kind of like Windows Explorer and the taskbar as far as what they do. So Cubert in particular you have no freaking clue what you are talking about. Haiku is not BeOS with new skins.
As far as the GUI, Haiku has been updated a bit over BeOS, but not extensively as many people who liked BeOS like the simple and fast GUI. We have added quite a few gradients, all drawing operations are anti-aliased (like is usually used for text), and the icons are vector icons (but using a space efficient vector format, not the bloated SVG.)
For all the “it’s so 1997” comments, please enumerate what exactly looks old. I’m using Ubuntu right now and I don’t think it looks any more modern than Haiku. If you are all Mac OS X lovers Haiku definitely won’t look like that any time soon, but who wants a transparent menu anyhow (sure it’s kind of pretty, but come on, how usable is it? Same with Vista transparent window frames.) And I’m sorry but Mac OS X 10.0 was ugly. Leopard and Snow Leopard look quite nice though, except for the transparent menu and I’m not a big fan of the Dock either.
As for the comments about “why don’t you guys help Linux”, there are a couple reasons:
1. Linux already has a ton of people and organizations putting time into it. Yet they still haven’t gotten the desktop right. You think we could really make a difference?
2. Part of the reason Linux has had issues is that it is not cohesive. By nature it is a mish-mash of technologies that will never really blend in well together. Haiku is a complete, cohesive system. That means we have one API, a consistent user interface, applications that can work well together, one package management system, and on and on.
As for the whole “BeOS was fast, but we don’t need things that fast anymore”, then please tell Microsoft to stop bothering with making Win7 faster over Vista, and Apple to stop trying to make OS X faster. I mean who the hell wants their OS to run slowly if it doesn’t have to? Saying we don’t need a fast OS anymore is about the stupidest comment ever.
For example a lot of people have tested Haiku on netbooks and been really pleased. It runs faster than Linux and much faster than Windows. As for OS X, you aren’t really supposed to be running it on netbooks, are you?
So anyhow, most of you probably shouldn’t worry about Haiku. If you are happy with your OS, great. A lot of people aren’t.
One to watch for sure. Looks a bit OS/2 Warp-y at the moment, but I’ll be very surprised if users don’t start modding it to hell once they get their collective fingers on it.
Could turn into a very viable player in the embedded market too.
@Ryan,
Either I wasn’t clear or you didn’t read correctly. I said nothing even close to “Haiku is BeOS with new skins”. I was lamenting the fact that people posting had no idea about what BeOS is/was, specifically regarding their comments about its dated looking GUI.
OSs are becoming irrelevant. I don’t care what’s behind my Safari anymore.