“Want the thinnest, best-designed ultra-portable computer money can buy? Plunk down $1,800 and pick up the MacBook Air,” Tom Rose reports for The Boston Herald.
“The new MacBook air is a marvel of design. Without giving up the comfort of a full-sized keyboard or the pleasure of a 13.3-inch widescreen display, Apple has produced a laptop that is absurdly thin,” Rose reports. “While it seems odd to say it for such a sleek device, the Air feels solid and sturdy. It sports the same aluminum casing as the MacBook Pro.”
Much of the early criticism of the Air — which was announced in January but didn’t hit stores until last month — has centered on ‘missing’ features. Critics who lament that Apple missed the mark clearly do not understand that this laptop is aimed at a select group.,” Rose reports.
“If the lack of an optical drive or Ethernet port causes concern for a potential buyer, then Apple believes a different MacBook is a wiser choice. In terms of computing bang for the buck, the faster, feature-packed MacBook Pro is a better value,” Rose reports.The group the Air is designed for includes college students and traveling professionals who want style and portability. It is a premium ultraportable that best serves those who will use it as a second computer; the one they grab when on the run.”
Full review here.
“Want the thinnest, best-designed ultra-portable computer money can buy?”
That’s a strange expression. I suppose you could try to trade chickens, celebrity baby photos or a nice camel for one.
“Much of the early criticism of the Air — which was announced in January but didn’t hit stores until last month — has centered on ‘missing’ features. Critics who lament that Apple missed the mark clearly do not understand that this laptop is aimed at a select group.”
This guy gets it. Funny how so many other reporters/writers overlook that very key point.
To be fair, there are thinner, better designed ultra-portables money can’t buy.
They exist in Apple’s labs.
“They exist in Apple’s labs.”
Right next to a real time machine, a holodeck, Asteroid, the frozen head of Walt Disney and Flubber.
“It sports the same aluminum casing as the MacBook Pro.”
Don’t tell Jonathan Ive that.
It’s nice to see a reporter that ” gets it ” and understands the market this product is intended to sell to. It’s not a Photoshop workhorse and it’s not intended to replace your desktop computer. It’s a great portable computer !
“That’s a strange expression. I suppose you could try to trade chickens, celebrity baby photos or a nice camel for one.”
actually, i traded the third child for a Mac Mini over a year ago. still trying to figure out what kind of package deal i can swing for an iPhone and an MBA…….
MBA may be the “thinnest, best-designed ultra-portable computer money can buy”, but it is definitely not the best notebook for me. I see no reason to “plunk down $1,800” for a notebook that sacrifices too much functionality for a mere 2.5 pounds of weight saving.
MBA seems to be the notebook of choice for those that favor aestheticism over practicality or have a desktop as their primary machine. MBA cannot compete as a stand alone machine and its elegance does not compensate for its deficiencies in processor speed, slower and smaller hard drive, and inability of the user to swap batteries easily.
To MBA aficionados, these repeated threads for MBA seem nothing less than a desperate attempt to secure validation for your purchase. I won’t provide approval for your purchase. Get over it, not everyone thinks like you.
Finally, someone who actually thinks before they write junk. Someone with the ability to understand what the product was designed for.
The MBA is perfect for me. The approximately 50% less weight and thinness have made carrying it around everywhere a joy.
For work, I used to have a 12″ Thinkpad X60, which had an extra battery and optical drive in the dock, which I never carried with me, and almost never used. And the only place I ever used wired Ethernet was at my desk at work. So it was very clear to me that an MBA would be better. The extra screen real estate and full size keyboard are a real benefit.
So to MBA aficionados, I will provide validation and approval for your purchase. No need to get over it, since you already know that everyone thinks like you as you see the millions of sufferers using XP or Vista…
“i traded the third child for a Mac Mini over a year ago”
That explains where Mac Geniuses come from. They’re bred!
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“I won’t provide approval for your purchase.”
The Mighty Afib has spoken. That’s it then. We’re done. Thanks.
(Actually, I think it would be hysterical if someone bought you one just to piss you off.)
@Afib,
“To MBA aficionados, these repeated threads for MBA seem nothing less than a desperate attempt to secure validation for your purchase. I won’t provide approval for your purchase. Get over it, not everyone thinks like you.”
Is it me or do you just not get it??
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“MBA cannot compete as a stand alone machine “….. Yep, I guess you just do not get it. LOL
Let me help. The MBA is NOT:
A means of transportation,
Does not fly,
Will not teleport you anywhere….
Will not cloth, wash, or dress you…
etc.
Have a nice day.
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Here is the link again: http://www.maclife.com/article/apple_1_6g_hz_macbook_air
Just my $0.02
DH and Slappy:
According to the article the demographic for who the MBA is designed are those who do not need a machine with a built in Ethernet port, already have a primary computer, are not the least concerned about poor battery life and difficulties of swapping a battery themselves, and are more concerned with style than functionality.
Apple could design a Macbook Pro without an optical drive and with one USB, Ethernet, DVI, and audio port. This would possibly reduce the weight of a 15-inch Macbook Pro by a minimum of 0.8 to 1 pound. This would be my ideal notebook because it could easily function as my standalone computer, and would still be faster and equally portable in my estimation compared to MBA. In this case, I would not need to purchase another machine, but could an external display for home and office use.
ElderNorm:
Yes, it’s obvious, you don’t think like me. I don’t buy a computer for what it doesn’t do, I buy a machine for what it does do. If MBA serves your needs “Whoopee, for you!” Happy now?
It’s amazing how defensive MBA fanbois can be when someone threads a negative opinion of the MBA. What is it that make you think that your choice in a notebook is more intelligent or more reasonable than anyone else? Even you admit that Apple designed MBA for a specific niche. it is obvious then that MBA would NOT be appealing to everyone. The fact that some persons do not fit this niche is a logical deduction. Is this simple understanding to difficult for you to grasp? Do you need to receive unanimous approval for your purchase of MBA to feel validation? If so, you and the other MBA fanbois are a truly pathetic bunch.
It seems that those who favor the MBA admit that MBA comes with some deficiencies, but somehow seem downright reactionary when these deficiencies are pointed out. An astute consumer weighs the advantages and disadvantages of each notebook and makes a decision which machine provides the optimal service.
Afib,
Everyone here already understands the tradeoffs Apple made. Some are okay with it and have bought or will buy one. Others won’t. No need for you to point them out in a defensive and huffy tone (i.e. reference to fanbois). Get over it.
If you had just said, like many other posters in previous threads, that those tradeoffs made the MBA not the computer for you, nobody would’ve bothered to respond to or mock you. As it is, you cemented the view that you’re an idiot who won’t acknowledge that there are many who like and rationally choose the MBA just the way it is. Get over it.
Afib: One more thing, as I said in my previous post, the MBA is plenty practical for me, even as a primary computer. (I don’t do Photoship.) So your need to denigrate the motive for my choice by implying I must’ve chose aestheticism over practicality is just offensive.
Afib: And by the way, I think of myself as a very astute customer who has chosen what is optimal, and don’t need you to point out that I somehow stupidly missed the MBA’s “deficiencies.”
Every laptop has deficiencies. Even the new Lenovo X300 has severe deficiencies but it may be perfect for a whole bunch of users.
Afib
To MBA aficionados, these repeated threads for MBA seem nothing less than a desperate attempt to secure validation for your purchase. I won’t provide approval for your purchase. Get over it, not everyone thinks like you.
Pot. Kettle. Black.
Get over the fact that not everyone thinks like *you*. The MBA doesn’t have the features you need?
DON”T BUY IT! BUY ONE OF THE OTHER MAC LAPTOPS!
How hard is this to comprehend? The Air suits many thousands, probably hundreds of thousands of people for the exact reason the article mentions. No one needs to “validate” a purchase that fits their needs and requirements. It’s that simple.
@Afib
Are you simply a complete and utter ass, or are you just dense? Guess what, the MBA is NOT the right machine for almost everyone on the planet. That doesn’t mean each and everyone of you need to post here telling us something we already know. Your disdain for those that actually have a use for the MBA only underscores my original question to you.
mark:
“you cemented the view that you’re an idiot who won’t acknowledge that there are many who like and rationally choose the MBA just the way it is. Get over it.”
Not so, mark. As I have repeated many times, to each his own. It’s simply that MBA is not the machine for me. Read my threads again, if you have any questions, I’ll be glad to explain them to you.
Anyhow, thanks for being so generous with your opinions, mark. Your uninhibited resentment towards those who won’t spend the cash for MBA underscores your personal bias and prejudices towards those that do “Think Different” from you.
How often do you consider those who share opposite opinions to you “idiots”? What makes your thinking more sensible than someone else? How does insulting another person strengthen your argument that you are an objective and thoughtful person?
Explain yourself, mark.
Personally, mark, I think that your acrimony and venom is positive proof that you have a desperate need for approval for purchasing MBA. You seem to lack the calm and collected assurance of a person who is confident in his thinking processes. That would make you a fanboi by any definition.
@ Afib
“Get over it, not everyone thinks like you.”
Practice what you preach, pal.
Quit condemning those that buy Airs, just because you don’t fit into its demographic, and possibly don’t understand it.
Me, I fit into the demographic (except I can’t afford one). I’m a college-student, with PM G4 as my primary computer. The only time I use my disc drive is to rip CDs or DVDs to my computer, or to install software. The Air has a way to install software, and I wouldn’t rip my whole music library to the Air if I had one, so there’s no reason for me to have a disc drive.
The only reason I use ethernet, is because I can’t find a wireless card that will work with this computer (predates AirPort. If anyone knows of one, that isn’t 100 bux, let me know, I’ll love you forever). If my computer had a wireless card, and no ethernet jack, I would NEVER need ethernet.
The one USB port? Let’s see, my USB attachments…my mouse, hmm, wouldn’t use that. My keyboard, hey wouldn’t use that. My printer, can hook up to that over Bonjour through my primary computer. My iPod, which I wouldn’t sync to my Air because my PM has all my music on it, my Air wouldn’t, and if I’m on the road, I’ll plug my iPod into the wall.
Its processor? Well, right now, I’m running on a 400 MHz processor, with 768 K of RAM. Which is too slow for me, I’ve been needing to upgrade it forever, but can’t afford to. But 1.6 or 1.8 GHz on a dual core, with 2 GB of RAM? That’d be just fine for me. Perfect.
So while you may see it as “form over function,” to some people, apparently a lot of people seeing as the Airs are flying off the shelves (still #1 seller on the Apple Online Store), it’s the perfect functionality encased in a gorgeous form. There is no trade off for some people. Sure, for you, there are a ton of trade-offs. But…
“Get over it, not everyone thinks like you.”
Afib, bullshit.
“As I have repeated many times, to each his own.”
Combine that with this gem,
“I won’t provide approval for your purchase.”
Flip much?
Oh, and Afib. Go back and read your first post. It was EXTREMELY rude to people who buy the Airs. And if you didn’t mean it that way, then maybe you ought to examine the way you say certain things, because it honestly sounds like you are making fun of, and being extremely condescending to anyone that buys an Air.
You were almost fine, until this: “To MBA aficionados, these repeated threads for MBA seem nothing less than a desperate attempt to secure validation for your purchase. I won’t provide approval for your purchase. Get over it, not everyone thinks like you.”
Calling people desperate, accusing them of seeking to secure validation, and saying get over it, are just not the ways to politely say the Air is not for me. Sorry, but it isn’t.
To all fanbois:
You seem perturbed that someone doesn’t wholeheartedly agree with you. Hmmm, why is that?
I suppose that some of your haven’t lost all reason, because it is true that I haven’t purchased a MBA. That should have been obvious.
I also won’t buy MBA and thanks for your advice not to purchase MBA. I really appreciate your recommendations not to buy MBA; however, I am certain that MBA is NOT the notebook for me and I made this decision months ago. I reckon that others debating whether to buy or not to buy MBA may find your suggestion that MBA is NOT the optimal notebook for some persons very helpful.
So, MBA purchasers, if you are the niche that Apple designed MBA, why feel so threatened or insecure when a person not in your exclusive demographic doesn’t fall in lock step with your thinking? Maybe those who are not confident in their purchase of MBA are probably not self-assured in their thinking processes and likely feel a strong sense of buyer’s remorse.
I repeat, “Whoopee!” for all MBA purchasers.
To all those who haven’t purchased MBA, “Whoopee, to you, too!”
@Afib….you haven’t touched or picked one up yet, have you?? Pictures don’t do this ultra-mobile machine justice. I own a Macbook and the Air makes my Macbook feel like I am picking up a tank.
If you are a student and need ultra-mobility/portability, then the Air is the only true option.
Afib: You can only see in others what you originally provoked by your idiotic comments. That makes you an ass, as so many on this thread are confirming.
Now to specifics: If your original post was limited to just the first paragraph, no problem. Many have said exactly that with no one jumping on them. But your second and third paragraph throw in criticism for those who chose to buy a MBA. Why do you that? What’s your motivation? Why not just recognize that others can choose for their own reasons, just like you think you say (para 1), but prove that you really are not doing (paras 2 and 3).
I’m fine with the hundreds of millions who choose something else. Go back and look at my first post on this thread. The first two paragraphs accused no one of anything. As I wrote, I used a ThinkPad and XP for three years even though I prefer a Mac. I never once criticized anyone for choosing either way or looked down on anyone for any reason, even if I thought they were making a mistake.
But you wrote “aestheticism over practicality”. You wrote “get over it”. How could I not respond to your provocation?
There’s no venom here except in response to false accusations.
Afib: why did you start all of this by picking on DH and slappy? They said nothing about you or your choices; they didn’t even know of your existence.
Seriously, what was that all about?
“You seem perturbed that someone doesn’t wholeheartedly agree with you. Hmmm, why is that?”
It has absolutely nothing to do with your opinion on why the Air is not for you. It was your condescending tone. Get it?
Afib, again.
It’s not that you don’t like it. WE DON’T CARE THAT YOU DON’T LIKE IT. What we care about is your attacks on people who do. Calling them DESPERATE, saying they need VALIDATION, and telling them to GET OVER IT.
Hello? Have you not read mark’s posts, Ampar’s posts, or my posts? We’re all telling you that. And then you attack us, calling us FANBOIS, telling us that we’re attacking anyone who doesn’t share our opinion.
HELLO! You’re the one attacking people for not having the same opinion as you! We’re merely defending ourselves against your attacks. Holy crap, are you so retarded that you honestly can’t get that?
Crabs:
Did you read the article? The author mentioned several deficiencies that buyers may have with MBA. Yet many of the threads here have completely ignored these criticisms of MBA and rattle on how great MBA is. Frankly, anyone who cannot address these criticisms identified by the author and will not admit that some persons may not consider MBA the optimal notebook are not entirely rational or objective thinkers.
Desperate persons tend to ignore criticism or even acknowledge that someone “Thinks Different” from them. Desperate persons seek external validation for their actions because they lack confidence in their own ability to rationalize their actions. It isn’t rude to point out deficiencies in someone’s thinking any more than it is ill-advised to point out some inherent weaknesses in MBA.
You may have some buyer’s remorse, I don’t know, but this isn’t my problem. Maybe you’re sensitive about impulsively buying MBA. All these would factors would certainly identify an individual with a careless or desperate personality. I doubt that 100% of MBA purchasers are 100% satisfied. If you are completely satisfied, good for you, and you may ignore my comments regarding “desperate” MBA owners. For those, who regretted buying MBA and don’t like to be reminded of the fact, you are desperate. Live and learn.
Many have admitted the obvious fact, MBA is a niche product. Therefore, why not accept the fact that MBA is not designed for the majority of users? And, if MBA is not the notebook for the majority of users, agree that there are reasons that this is true?
It is obvious that purchasers of Mac Pro are also in a group of niche users, yet I haven’t read a single thread from these persons adamantly seeking justification for dropping $3,000 for their machine or castigating iMac owners. These people, unlike many here, seem self assured, confident, tolerant, and rational.
The two main issues with the Air are lack of firewire and insufficient storage space. I understand that a single platter larger hard drive is on the way, and while 160 gigs isn’t much by to-day’s standards, 80 is just plain inadequate. It means transferring data to an external device and for that nothing beats Firewire, also MIA.
Future revisions will fix the storage problem, but Firewire would make it far more useful. How much re-engineering would that take?
Let’s examine these threads carefully.
I think that the common refrain among the fanbois here is to call anyone who shares a different opinion an “ass” or “retarded”. This is bona fide evidence of fanboism. Neither have many here denounced this language as being divisive and offensive, so I have to deduce that many of you agree with these puerile attitudes and this would characterize you as fanbois, too. Frankly, anyone who resorts to such childish idioms is desperate, in my opinion, because they cannot express their thoughts more carefully and assiduously.
Also, it seems that anyone who threads a contrary opinion is castigated as attacking. This hardly characterizes rational thinking. People who cannot tolerate that someone else thinks that MBA is still a deficient stand alone computer demonstrate their own bias and prejudice.
Ho. Ly. Crap.
Afib.
Yes, I read the bloody article. I know there are deficiencies to certain people.
I wasn’t even commenting on the article. I was responding to your attacks on Air fans.
Did you, however, even read my comments? Obviously not. I said I like the Air, but I can’t afford it. So I’m obviously not suffering from buyer’s remorse on an impulse buy, because I didn’t buy it. I probably will, but it’s been a long thought out decision, about…2 months worth, thus far.
And you said, if we had questions about your post, to ask you. How’s about this one: Why did you bother posting anything more than the fact that you don’t think the Air is right for you? Why did you go on to attack those who own it? Why did you go on to attack those who support it, saying they’re obsessed with form over function?
And then you go around and say others are attacking you because you think different than you?! HAHAHAHA! Funniest thing I’ve ever heard of. Or at least, it would be, if it weren’t so sad, and annoying that you don’t seem to understand that YOU ATTACKED FIRST. Me, Ampar, and mark? We’re just defending ourselves, and Air owners agains your belittling of the people who buy the Air. Not your belittling of the Air. That’s your own bloody opinion, and you’re entitled to it. But when you start belittling people because they think differently than you do, and then accuse them of attacking you when they defend themselves, that’s when you get people mad.
I don’t care if you don’t have a use for the Air. I don’t care if it’s not the right computer for you. What I care about is your comments calling people desperate, claiming they’re seeking validation, calling people fanbois, and then telling people to get over the fact that not everyone thinks like they do, when you’re the one who’s attacking others’ beliefs.
And again, I am not an Air owner. I like it, but I can’t afford it. So I’m obviously not seeking any sort of validation, especially not from you. What I’m seeking, is for you to be respectful to people who think differently than you do, and to not accuse peope of attacking when they’re merely defending themselves.
Ampar:
“It has absolutely nothing to do with your opinion on why the Air is not for you. It was your condescending tone. Get it?”
Actually, you felt that you were being patronized. That, Apmar, is your own interpretation. I am not responsible for how you misinterpret my threads or how you think. However, your misunderstanding may reveal something about your own personal views of others that disagree with you.
Why won’t fanbois admit and acknowledge that some persons have legitimate reasons not to purchase MBA? These are the person who “don’t get it”.
“Frankly, anyone who resorts to such childish idioms is desperate, in my opinion, because they cannot express their thoughts more carefully and assiduously.”
Re-read Crabs last post. Then, go look up the word hypocrite. We’ll wait.
There is no misunderstanding. For what it’s worth, I have no need for a MacBook Air. I prefer my MacBook Pro. I have my own reasons. I don’t feel patronized either.
You have utterly and completely missed the point. Kudos.
Crabs:
“Why did you go on to attack those who support it, saying they’re obsessed with form over function?”
May I quote from the article, “The group the Air is designed for (persons) who want style and portability. It is a premium ultraportable that best serves those who will use it as a second computer..”
Is it not obvious that the author has emphasized that MBA is more “style” versus function? That MBA is a second computer, and not a stand alone machine? Good grief, Crabs, I’m in total agreement with the author that you so vehemently agree with.
Also, how is my agreeing with the author that MBA is a niche product, not designed for the majority of users “attacking” anyone? Frankly, I have never witnessed such “desperate” attempts from MBA users to justify their purchase. What difference does it make what non-MBA purchasers or MBA critics have to think? Are you not completely happy with MBA as is? Are you not content with its design? Do you not feel self assured of MBA’s value and usefulness? If so, what does it matter what I think?
Hmmm, several people threading (i.e. Crabs, Ampar) haven’t purchased MBA and yet defend so vigorously those that have purchased MBA. You vigourous fanbois would have more credibility justifying purchasing MBA if you actually did so. Put your money where your mouth is, fellas.
The fact that you fanbois haven’t “plunked down” your hard earned cash only emphasizes the desperation that some have for securing MBA’s success. Consider this, if you aren’t so enthralled with MBA to buy it, why should anyone else?
Pathetic.
Wow.
Afib still missed the point entirely. Is this funny or sad? I can’t decide.
Pathetic, indeed.
What happened? Did they fire the Apple-hater, Hiawatha Bray?
Ampar and Crabs:
So, you haven’t your own MBA, eh, Ampar? You, too, Crabs? That is the point, fanbois, and you have made it obvious to everyone reading this blog.
Ampar, Crabs, you and others have no credibility as spokespersons for MBA if you haven’t the willingness to spend YOUR OWN cash for MBA.
Ampar, Crabs, being pathetic and desperate for MBA’s success is encouraging others to spend THEIR OWN cash for a product that you haven’t the readiness to purchase yourself. This is the preeminent definition of fanboism.
Is MBA too expensive for you? Maybe MBA is too expensive for someone else.
Is MBA not powerful enough for you? Maybe MBA is not powerful enough for someone else.
Is MBA deficient as your stand alone computer? Maybe MBA is deficient for someone else?
Thanks, Crabs. Thanks, Ampar. You have supported my argument that MBA is NOT the ideal notebook succinctly and flawlessly.
I have made my decision, Ampar, you are a fanboi. Sad for you, funny for me.
Wow! We’re just talking completely past Afib. As they say, saying any more would be a waste of breath.
I will breathe deeply and enjoy my Air today for the rational and practical reasons for which I’ve chosen it, even if Afib insists that I could not have chosen it rationally, though he also insists that he’s not insisting otherwise, but whatever. Others will enjoy whatever computer they’ve chosen for whatever reasons they chose it. Or not. Whatever, today is not a good day for logic.
On to other news, Morespaceplse is right about Firewire, but for me, it’s not to connect external drives since I have more external USB drives than Firewire drives, but because target mode still only works that way. But I can live with the slightly higher risk of not having target mode as a safety net.
As for the 80GB hard drive size, I’m only at 40+ GB right now. But I do have to think about managing it the way I had to manage my 4GB iPod mini – what media (then music, now movies) to keep on and what to take off. I was never able to determine if Apple chose 80GB over 160GB due to speed & reliability of drives at that 1.8″ size. My Thinkpad only had 93GB of usable space, and I got to 82GB on that after 3 years, but again by only keeping a select few movies on it at any one time.
Ooh, I know what I just wrote but I can’t resist.
Afib, what is the “ideal notebook”?
You wrote that the MBA is NOT THE ideal notebook but I don’t think the original article or anyone in this thread has said that the MBA is THE ideal notebook.
Though many, including me, have concluded that it’s the “thinnest, best-designed ultra-portable”, which by use of the qualifying word “ultra-portable” means is not the ideal non-ultra-portable notebook.
I can’t wait for Afib now to say I have no self-control because I couldn’t resist prolonging interacting with him.
To Afib:
(last try)
Read the insulting TONE:
“pathetic and desperate”
“I have made my decision, Ampar, you are a fanboi. Sad for you, funny for me.”
This had NOTHING TO DO WITH THE FRIKKIN’ MACBOOK AIR. This thread could have been about ostrich farming or ham radio.
It’s YOUR CONTINUOUS INSULTING AND DEROGATORY TONE.
Tone. n. Manner of expression in speech or writing: took an angry tone with the reporters.
Freakin’ unbelievable.
mark:
You have missed the point about “rationality” entirely, mark. Let me explain, again.
I never suggested that persons who purchased MBA were irrational. If you would read my threads you would understand that I stated that those who disparage persons not in the “niche market” – those who consider the MBA over-priced and under-powered – as being irrational in the denial that MBA does have some deficiencies, especially as a stand alone computer. In fact, these deficiencies were discussed by the author. You also admit MBA has some deficiencies – no Firewire port, skimpy hard drive – that make MBA less than ideal as a stand alone computer.
Isn’t it obvious to you that niche products would NOT appeal to the majority of users? Doesn’t that make the majority of Mac users without a MBA the astute consumers? So, you belong to the niche market. Do you need me to congratulate you, to validate your purchase? You made your choice, what more do you want from me than acknowledge the fact?
Again, those who won’t spend their cash for MBA and encourage other to buy MBA are the desperate ones. Have you asked the question why it is that these people are so adamant about MBA’s success yet haven’t made the purchase themselves? What motivations do these people have that would drive them to compel others to purchase a machine that they haven’t purchased themselves? Is Apple’s ultimate success determined by how many <strike>niche products</strike> MBAs it sells? I hope not.
Is it ever constructive, or even effective to attack another’s reasoning?
Shit you learn by your early thirties…if you have an average mind. Quicker if you’re keener.
Ampar:
My tone?
To quote you, Ampar, ” Wow. Afib still missed the point entirely. Is this funny or sad? I can’t decide. Pathetic, indeed.”
How about the use of words such as “ass” and “retarded” that you have selectively chosen not to criticize? Why do you reserve your condemnation for me and not Spark, mark or Crabs. It’s obvious, you are just like them.
Freaking unbelievable, indeed. Your lack of credibility and arrogance is only exceeded by your hypocrisy.
“How about the use of words such as “ass” and “retarded” that you have selectively chosen not to criticize?”
Absolutely agree.
But take note who fired the first shot:
“To MBA aficionados, these repeated threads for MBA seem nothing less than a desperate attempt to secure validation for your purchase. I won’t provide approval for your purchase. Get over it, not everyone thinks like you.”
Sound familiar?
mark:
You wrote,
“Ooh, I know what I just wrote but I can’t resist. Afib, what is the “ideal notebook”?
I did explain my ideal notebook at 11:44 am EST. I suppose that you would disagree, but then again, I don’t care if you disagree with me.
I don’t purchase a notebook based on your preferences, I purchase a notebook based on the functionality of the machine as I determine it.
You purchased a MBA knowing the compromises and restrictions inherent in the design. I see MBA’s lacking those previously discussed features as too limiting and are not compensated by its thinness.
Ampar:
Really?
Firstly, calling a person an “ass” or “retard” is hardly comparable to stating a person’s opinion sounded “desperate”, unless you are overly sensitive or nit picking.
Secondly, you’re a day late and a dollar short in your denunciation of Spark, Crabs, and mark. Another one of your credibility issues, I think, Ampar.
Thirdly, using the word “desperate” less offensive than referring to me as the “Mighty Afib”, wouldn’t you agree?
You win, Afib. I bow to your superior wit and intellect.
You are one of those rare and treasured individuals that are never, ever, ever wrong. Never. Not even once. That is so cool. I’ll bet it’s a hit at parties.
Uncle.
Ray: option 4
just my 2¢
Ampar:
Gee, thanks for the compliments, even if it they are completely disingenuous. You presume that because persons have differences in opinion that one group must always be absolutely correct and the other group must always be absolutely wrong.
Deciding the optimal choice of a notebook is not a matter of life or limb, eternal paradise or eternal damnation. It’s more like mayo or mustard. You betray your biases and prejudices by revealing your narrow-minded perception of this issue, Ampar. You just don’t get it and that does make you a fanboi.
@Afib
You most feel miserable living alone in your basement, I M$ at least paying you for tolling?
Casual reader:
Your concern is underwelming, fanboi.
Afib: I don’t understand how I could be disingenuous unless you are overly sensitive or nit picking.
But then my narrow-mindedness can’t begin to comprehend the awesome wisdom and insight of your intellectual acumen.
We are definitely not worthy.
Wow. I cannot believe Afib is still going. Good job Ampar for keeping up with it. I gave up a long time ago. Figured, you know what, it’s not worth it. I’m not gonna convince him that he was rude, and he’s never going to get the point that I wasn’t defending the Air in any way shape or form. I was defending the people whom he called desperate and seeking validation. Oh well.
Oh, and Afib? Good to know that you either have no life and sit around at home all day, or you are perhaps the world’s least productive worker. Good to know…
Ampar:
“I don’t understand how I could be disingenuous unless you are overly sensitive or nit picking.”
I doubt the sincerity of your compliment, Ampar, that’s the reason I find your props not the least convincing. It has nothing to do with my being overly sensitivity or nitpicking, it has everything to do with your lack of credibility.
Your pathetic attempts at sarcasm only emphasize your lack of wit, why else would you resort to copying and pasting my words instead of using your own? The only message I receive from your feeble efforts at being clever is your utter failure to develop a plausible and convincing argument.
Let me know when you finally buy a MBA, fanboi.
Crabs:
Bless you, Crabs, what a saint you are! Defending those poor maligned and mistreated MBA niche owners who purchased an over-priced and under-powered notebook incapable of being used as a stand alone machine. Let me know when your beatification becomes official, I’ll be sure to light a candle.
For a wondrously productive soul as yourself where do you find the time to keep tabs on me? Your obsessive interest in my personal life makes me consider putting a retraining order on you. For real, Crabs, your fascination with my life borders on the neurotic. Is your life so pathetic that you have to invent the experiences of a person you don’t know?
Afib,
The MacBook Air is a sub notebook. The best sub notebook there is at a decent price for a sub notebook.
You don’t need and don’t want a sub notebook. So What? We don’t give a crap what you want or need.
What you are doing is like complaining that a new roadster is a convertible when all you want a 4X4 pick-up.
Who gives a fuck what you want?
See, on Fridays, my first class is at noon, so I could follow the thread in the morning, and then, I worked from 4-9, and then when I came home, I checked the thread again. And I posted a comment. Really doesn’t take that much time.
And as far as your calling me a saint and such, how good of you to again be a hypocrite. You said it was more demeaning for someone to call you “The Mighty Afib” than it was for you to call people desperate. So now you’ve descended to the level of those that you said were worse than you.
And there’s nothing saintly about defending other people. It’s called common courtesy. Although it isn’t so common anymore.
However, I do want to apologize for some of my early remarks, calling you a retard and things like that. That was not only rude of me, but it was very immature. And I am sorry. I’m going to be much more concious of what I say to people. Thank you for helping me to learn that lesson.
Al:
For someone who expresses no interest in my opinions, you seem to have taken a good deal of time to post your thoughts about my threads.
Crabs:
Defending other people from attack, Crabs? Rather than being valiant, you seem incredibly intimidated and aggrieved. Why do you feel the need to protect someone you may never know from inanimate words on a page, Crabs. Do words frighten you? Do other people’s thoughts unnerve you? I think that you are a very insecure and anxious person if you believe that words jeopardize you or others.
Afib: Just wanted to let you know I had a 667MHz Titanium Powerbook G4, but that was before my IBM Core Duo ThinkPad X60, which was before my Air. So your ideal notebook, which I had missed in your 11:44 (sorry!), is not much different in form or OS than what I had back in 2001. The Powerbook was great (until it’s screen died) but even then, it was too heavy and so, it didn’t go with me everywhere. The 15″ MacBook Pro is an ideal “notebook” (but it’s not an ultra-portable), and the MacBook Air is the “thinnest, best-designed ultra-portable” today (taking into account all its tradeoffs). And for my needs and from my actual experience, the MacBook Air is the ideal computer for me (and many others like me).
To conclude, let me rewind to where this started with your comments and respond point-by-point since it seems we fanbois weren’t clear as we sped away:
You said: “MBA seems to be the notebook of choice for those that favor aestheticism over practicality or have a desktop as their primary machine.” I’ve said: I favor practicality. The MBA is my primary machine. And the MBA is my notebook of choice. You could be right about some other MBA owners, but the MBA can be the notebook of choice for more than your two reasons.
“MBA cannot compete as a stand alone machine and its elegance does not compensate for its deficiencies in processor speed, slower and smaller hard drive, and inability of the user to swap batteries easily.” For me, the MBA does compete as a stand alone machine since size and weight are really important, and Apple’s tradeoffs suit me much better than those made in the X300 (which has an even slower processor and much shorter battery life).
“To MBA aficionados, these repeated threads for MBA seem nothing less than a desperate attempt to secure validation for your purchase. I won’t provide approval for your purchase. Get over it, not everyone thinks like you.” MDN reports on others who have written about MBA; I don’t believe MDN has any other motive. As for the thread, I have no desperate need to secure your validation for my purchase (or even if I had chosen not to purchase, I don’t need your validation either). I don’t need to get over it; I already know that I don’t think like you, and there are plenty who already think like me.
“I don’t buy a computer for what it doesn’t do, I buy a machine for what it does do. If MBA serves your needs “Whoopee, for you!” Happy now?” I don’t buy a computer for what it doesn’t do, I buy a machine for what it does do. Whether you say disingenuously “Whoopee”, or not, I’m happy with my MBA and with all the other riches and blessings that I already have in my life. I don’t need you to make me happy; you couldn’t even if you tried and I know you don’t really care to try.
“It’s amazing how defensive MBA fanbois can be when someone threads a negative opinion of the MBA.” It’s amazing how defensive MBA detractors can be when someone threads a positive opinion of the MBA.
“What is it that make you think that your choice in a notebook is more intelligent or more reasonable than anyone else?” Why accuse when nobody said that anyone’s choice in a notebook is more intelligent or more reasonable than anyone else. The gripe from DH, slappy, ElderNorm, Ampar, etc has been that detractors (but certainly not you) say that the MBA is a dud or a mistake without recognizing that it wasn’t created to meet everyone’s needs. By the way, no notebook has ever been built to meet everyone’s needs. Not even the ideal Powerbook or MacBook Pro.
“Even you admit that Apple designed MBA for a specific niche.” We all agree. That’s exactly what this thread has said in agreeing with Tom Rose, in response to detractors that have been saying it’s a mistake on par with the Cube.
“it is obvious then that MBA would NOT be appealing to everyone. The fact that some persons do not fit this niche is a logical deduction. Is this simple understanding to difficult for you to grasp? ” Preaching to the choir; we all know that the MBA is not appealing to everyone. But it is appealing to more than just those who are choosing aesthetics over practicality or those who another computer (which you’ve asserted as the only reasons).
(Continued in next post)
Afib: You said: “Do you need to receive unanimous approval for your purchase of MBA to feel validation? If so, you and the other MBA fanbois are a truly pathetic bunch.” I say: Nobody in this thread asked for unanimous approval. It seems pretty arrogant of you to think that we’d need it from a person who calls himself Afib.
“It seems that those who favor the MBA admit that MBA comes with some deficiencies, but somehow seem downright reactionary when these deficiencies are pointed out.” Ah, but were not reacting to the deficiencies or tradeoffs being pointed out (Ampar, I, and others said this a long time ago but you missed it so I’m repeating it.) Heck, we know what they are and are even willing to discuss them some more (which I did). But we are reacting to those who claim the MBA only satisfies this tiny group who choose aesthetics over practicality, and to those who assert that we desperately want some “affirmation”, and to those who offensively tell us to “get over it”, whatever the “it” is.
“An astute consumer weighs the advantages and disadvantages of each notebook and makes a decision which machine provides the optimal service.” Hey, in closing, we all agree. That’s exactly what I did, and you know what, I chose to buy a MBA!
By the way, I paid for the MBA with the profits from my Jan 3 sale of AAPL shares at 190. I sold because I needed most of the money for some other transaction; so it was mostly good luck. But I did buy back in on Feb 29 at $119, and if I sold my holdings again today at 133, I’d have more than enough to buy plenty more MBAs and MBPs. So go ahead, feel free to call me a fanboi when I’m holding AAPL. Just an astute and practical fanboi that Apple has made richer in more ways than one.
That’s it. I’m outta here.
Are you kidding me? Words are one the most powerful forces on earth, anyone who doesn’t know that need only read The Declaration of Independence, The Magna Carta, watch a video, or listen to a recording of Martin Luther King, read the Bible, read any great work of literature, go to a school and listen to the way kids talk to each other and see how it affects them, listen to or read the lyrics of a particularly moving song, read a single line of poetry, or read a well-written article to understand to true power of words.
I am utterly astounded that you just said that. To say that words have no power is to say that communication is worthless. That we, with our speech, are no different than any other animal. Words are what make us human, Afib. Where would the proto-humans have gotten without communication? Nowhere. We are simply too physically weak to compete with other animals on our own. It is our words that made us the dominant species on this world.
I was really done arguing with you, completely, and I’m not even trying to argue with you now, I’m just, truly, baffled, and trying to figure out how anyone could say that. I never truly thought you were unintelligent, but a statement such as that seeks to prove me wrong about you. I thought you were opinionated and stubborn, but never for one moment did I expect you, or really, anyone over the age of ten to make such a ludicrous statement as saying that people who fear the power of words are unstable.
People who are wary of the power of words, and are aware of how to use them to their advantage, are the most powerful people in the world. One of the big reasons President George W. Bush is so disliked is because of his lack of ablity to use words to his advantage. One of Senator Barrack Obama’s biggest selling points is his amazing way of doing exactly that.
George Washington, Abraham Lincoln, Franklin Roosevelt, Ronald Reagan, all of these men knew the power of words. Benjamin Franklin, Thomas Jefferson, James Madison, truly, all of our founding fathers, knew the power of words.
There are two ways to leave your mark on this world: Through words or through wars. Words start wars. Words end wars. Words are how we remember wars.
How any educated adult from any background can say that words are not powerful is either lying or extremely ignorant. I don’t even know what else to say. I’m just…shocked, truly. Inanimate words on a page are some of the most potent forces you can find. Wow. Just…wow.
@Crabs: Thanks for jumping in. You knew exactly what I meant and what I was reacting to way back in the beginning. But don’t take that as an affirmation, though, since I’m not giving any in this thread
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And to Ampar: Guess it was a bit harder to make this thread as witty as usual.
Let’s have a great weekend.
@Afib
Drop it. Crabs is right. Your choice of words suggests arrogance on your part.
To mark and Crabs:
“Let’s have a great weekend.” Yes, but only the ones that actually deserve happiness. Know what I mean?
Cheers!
P.S. There’s an old expression about attracting more bees with honey instead of vinegar. I’m still amazed how that simple concept is completely lost on some people.
And Crabs, that was a great discourse on the power of words. Very cool. Thanks.
Karma had a very busy day yesterday. She must be exhausted!
mark:
MBA is too under-powered and too-slow for use as my stand alone machine. Add to these deficiencies is a battery that is much more difficult to replace than current Macbooks. Also, I’d rather not have to carry dongles for Firewire and Ethernet access when out of range of Wi-Fi. When you compare the limitations of MBA with its cost, it is evident that the thinness of MBA is the only “premium feature” that distinguishes MBA. Big whoop.
If you did read the article, the author suggested that MBA may be deficient as a stand alone machine. I reckon that you are comfortable with a less functional machine than I am. The thinness of MBA does not provide any significant advantage to me. Remember, mark, MBA is a niche product meaning it is not intended for a majority of users. Enjoy your niche, fanboi.
Crabs:
It’s obvious you do like “words” in general, it’s just that you don’t specifically like my threads. Too bad, I have the U.S. Constitution backing me up, fanboi.
“Congress shall make no … abridging the freedom of speech…”
The First Amendment of the Constitution supersedes your biases and prejudices. That means I have the freedom to express opinions that differ from yours. Get over it, fanboi, grow up and realize that not everyone is obligated to always agree with you.
Ampar:
“Let’s have a great weekend.” Yes, but only the ones that actually deserve happiness. Know what I mean?”
Like, Crabs, you also lack understanding,
“We hold these truths to be self-evident: That all men are created equal; that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable rights; that among these are life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness…”
It seems that you care only for those that think like you. I interpret that you are an intolerant and malevolent fanboi bigot. So much for the stereotype of Mac users being a universally more enlightened bunch.
Please go away, Afib. You’re getting boring.
Afib,
You are one of those assholes that must have the last word, aren’t you.
I have this thread iCal’d. I am going to post on it again, 2 or 3 times a year. I will mention MBA sales figures and how stupid you are. You will never have the last word.
Deal with it.
Big Al;
“You are one of those assholes that must have the last word, aren’t you.”
Well, since you did ask, Al.
You must be one of those uber-intelligent and uber-enlightened Mac users. You know how I know? You can spell two syllable words like “asshole”. Of course, you could have copied and pasted “asshole” from an earlier thread. You know what I mean?
iCal all you want, Al. All you will prove is how many people are willing to spend thousands of dollars for a under-powered and over-priced lightweight niche notebook. Well, if collecting these statistics makes you happy, Al, go ahead, knock yourself out. I don’t think your efforts will make a any difference in total MBA sales.
Since you are such a marketing-wiz, Al. Would you be so gracious and describe what total numbers of MBA sales would be considered successful? That way we could compare your values of success with other people. Could you do it today? I mean, you are more than stupid. You said so yourself.
“Deal with it.”
I dealing with jus’ fine, you? You seem a bit perturbed, Al. Something bugging you?
Ampar:
“Please go away, Afib. You’re getting boring.”
You have responded to my threads at least ten times, Ampar, at least ten times! Took you a while to get bored.
More like you crumpled under the weight of your own shame and embarrassment. I think your comment reflects you own admission of failing to develop a coherent argument more than any else.
And the clue train keeps rolling along.
Ampar:
Each time you thread the messages become more and more obtuse.
I thought you were bored with these exchanges, Ampar. Have you forgotten what you threaded a mere 3 hours ago?
Rolling, rolling, rolling.
Are you keeping track of the number of people you’ve pissed off?
This should get interesting.
“Are you keeping track of the number of people you’ve pissed off?”
No, because I don’t care about fragile fanbois’ feeble feelings. Are you counting? If so, why? If not, why would you ask me?
“This should get interesting.”
Bookmark this page and keep waiting, fanboi.
All aboard the Clue Train. Next stops, Buffalo, Rochester, Syracuse and Schenectady. All aboard.
Karl Rove, a staunch conservative is a Mac fanboi who loves his MacBook Air.
He’ll probably cave and buy another one for his wife. By Christmas, the whole Rove klan will have MacBook Airs!
That’s a REALLY big niche market! I guess who know the real fanbois are now!
Very clever, Apple!
Just curious:
Hermann Hesse
The Glass Bead Game?
@ Afib,
All sub notebooks are ‘under-powered and over-priced lightweight niche notebooks’.
When the MacBook Air is the best selling sub notebook then it will be a success and you will still be a clueless asshole who doesn’t like sub notebooks.
Wow. With all the long and varied history of MDN’s forums, here’s something you don’t see every day: a brand new way of trolling. And it’s getting results, too; probably well beyond its author’s expectations. Hey, Zune Tang, are you taking notes on this guy…?
Big Al:
“All sub notebooks are ‘under-powered and over-priced lightweight niche notebooks’.”
Paying more for less? I don’t think so.
Buying a MBA would be the technological equivalent of buying this for your transportation needs instead of this or one of one of these all for the same or similar price.
But Karl Rove bought a Macbook Air and he is so smart. How could such a brilliant conservative mind be wrong?
Ampar:
Firstly, you assume that buying a MBA is prima facie evidence of intelligence (i.e. brilliance). To make such an assertion confirms your lack of intelligence. According to your own logic, since you haven’t purchased MBA, would that you conclude that you are less intelligent than Rove?
Secondly, you assume than intelligence is correlated with ethical and moral correctness (i.e being right versus “wrong”). That is complete rubbish.
Thirdly, although I have repeated this more than three times and Big Al has so graciously and succinctly explained above, MBA provides no real value for the premium price charged by Apple. This is not a matter of intelligence or ethics or morality. It is purely economical. That is, getting the most portable computer for the money.
Does any of this make sense to you, Ampar?
I must be dumber than Karl as are you by your own logic.
Please do us a favor, Afib. Tell Karl Rove you are smarter than him and that his purchase of of a MacBook Air was idiotic. Would you like the e-mail address?
“you assume than intelligence”
You’re slipping, douchebag.
“Firstly, you assume that buying a MBA is prima facie evidence of intelligence (i.e. brilliance). To make such an assertion confirms your lack of intelligence.”
It’s obvious that you are no more than sixteen years old.
Ampar:
“It’s obvious that you are no more than sixteen years old.”
1. Prove it, otherwise I have to label you a liar, a moron, or both.
2. If it is “obvious” that I am no more than 16 years old, how did you come to that conclusion? Explain.
“You’re slipping, douchebag.”
If this is an example of what you believe is intelligent thinking and mastery of the English language, explain this, too.
Ampar:
“I must be dumber than Karl as are you by your own logic.”
No, you must be “dumber than Karl” according to your logic. In your own words, “But Karl Rove bought a Macbook Air and he is so smart. How could such a brilliant conservative mind be wrong?”
Firstly, you assume that buying a MBA is prima facie evidence of intelligence (i.e. brilliance). To make such an assertion confirms your lack of intelligence. According to your own logic, since you haven’t purchased MBA, would you conclude that you are less intelligent than Rove?
Secondly, you assume than intelligence is correlated with ethical and moral correctness (i.e being right versus “wrong”). That is complete rubbish.
Thirdly, although I have repeated this more than three times and Big Al has so graciously and succinctly explained above, MBA provides no real value for the premium price charged by Apple. This is not a matter of intelligence or ethics or morality. It is purely economical. That is, getting the most portable computer for the money.
Does any of this make sense to you, Ampar? If not, please identify what points you don’t understand and I will try to explain them for you in a way that is comprehensible to you.
Ampar, you may be stupider than Karl Rove, but it’s not because you didn’t buy a MBA.
“I have to label you a liar, a moron, or both.”
You would anyway. You’re a coward and a bully. And such a douchebag.
“MBA provides no real value for the premium price charged by Apple.”
So, Karl Rove is a dumbass. Thanks.
“You would anyway.”
Are you agreeing with me? You haven’t provided your reasons or your proof why you think I am less than 17 years of age.
“You’re a coward and a bully”
Do you always feel such animosity toward people who don’t think like you? That must suck – living with a constant sense of inferiority and bitterness because your opinions aren’t universally accepted. Poor, poor, Ampar, so misunderstood and so under appreciated. No wonder you lash out, that’s the only tool you have to boost your withered self-esteem.
“And such a douchebag.”
Only a person with the mental acumen of a third grader would thread such an asinine phrase. I understand why you haven’t comprehended my threads, you lack the intellect of a mature adult. Too bad for you, fanboi.
” ‘MBA provides no real value for the premium price charged by Apple.’
So, Karl Rove is a dumbass. Thanks.”
No, Karl Rove has more money than you. Remember, it’s the eco-nom-ics.
For Pete’s sake, Ampar, would you just shut the hell up. Your embarrassing me!
“No, Karl Rove has more money than you.”
Why does it matter how much money he has? Many wealthy people are very careful with their money. If he’s a smart as you think he is, then he must have carefully considered which laptop to buy.
He chose the MacBook Air. He loves it.
And you are still a douchebag.
“Your embarrassing me!”
You shouldn’t have skipped Basic English.
“If he’s a smart as you”
That should be “as smart”. We need an online editor for these posts.
Don`t feed the troll
Holy crap Afib and Ampar, you’re still going at it? I go out of town for the weekend, come back, and you two are still at it.
But uh, Afib, going waaaaay back to your post using things from the Constitution, here’s the thing. I wasn’t arguing whether or not you had free speech. I was merely saying it was very rude of you to lump people together and declare them as a certain state that has NOTHING to do with what their connection is. It’s called bigotry.
You are bigotted against MacBook Airs and MacBook Air buyers and supporters. You automatically assume that they are all a certain type of person, that they all are “desperate,” “seeking validation,” and “fanbois.”
That was my complaint with you. Never anything else. You hate the MacBook Air, that’s great. One of my closest friends is a total Mac hater. Does it ever come between our friendship? No. Why? Because he doesn’t say that all Mac users are stupid, or desperate, or seeking validation, or fanbois, or anything like that. He just prefers the Windows UI (I know, it’s strange, but to each their own).
Again, notice that? He believes differently than me. Am I afraid of him? Do I have problems with him because of it? No. He thinks differently than me, and that’s just fine. What he doesn’t do is belittle people because of their beliefs. That’s what you’ve done. That’s what made me angry.
Or how’s about this: I’m a practicing Mormon. My best friend in the world is gay. You still gonna come out and say that I have something against people who think differently than me? Quite on the contrary. He thinks very differently than me, and I would take a bat to someone for him. Go on, take another shot about me having something against people thinking differently than me.
And since you’re, oh, so mature, I’m sure that you’re going to make some judgement on me because I’m Mormon. Go ahead. Your opinion means so little to me, it’s astounding.
Oh, and by the way, thanks for further proving my point about the POWER OF WORDS when you quoted the Bill of Rights. Nothing in the world shows the power of words better than that. Simple words, written on a paper, by men who lived over 200 years ago, gives someone now the right to say whatever they want, even if it is rude, uncouth, and bigotted. But just because you have the right, doesn’t mean you should do it.
And because I’m sure you’re now going to abandon one of your points to pick up a new one, as that is what you’ve done during this whole argument, when someone comes up with a logical argument to your stance, you abandon it, and attack from another point. So what’s it gonna be this time? I really don’t care. I’m done with you. I may read your next post, but I’m done responding. Take that as a victory if you think it is. It doesn’t matter to me anymore. Have fun wasting your life.
Hey Crabs, you took the words right out of my mouth. I too went away for the weekend, had lots of fun, come back today and see that Afib has been online constantly, and still being as dumb as ever.
Afib: You didn’t respond to my last post on any of the issues I had with your post; you just repeated the one thing that I said I had no disagreement with you on – your choice of not buying an MBA.
Just like Crabs said, “So what’s it gonna be this time? I really don’t care. I’m done with you. I may read your next post, but I’m done responding. Take that as a victory if you think it is. It doesn’t matter to me anymore. Have fun wasting your life.”
The best approach to Afib is to ignore that he’s even here.
mark:
“Just like Crabs said, “So what’s it gonna be this time? I really don’t care. I’m done with you. I may read your next post, but I’m done responding. Take that as a victory if you think it is. It doesn’t matter to me anymore. Have fun wasting your life.”
You’re done? Promise? Good, then I won’t have to read your nauseating drivel.
Crabs:
Like mark, you have an amazing talent. You can accurately translate irrational thoughts perfectly into complete gibberish.
The MB Air looks like it would be perfect for students that don’t want a bulky laptop to haul around to classes or for businesspeople that are constantly running to meetings.
Apple will sell a ton of these beautiful machines.
The MBA is a great sub notebook. If you’re in the market for a sub-notebook, get a MacBook Air.
If you’re not in the market for a great sub notebook, complain that the MBA is a sub notebook and it cannot compete with mainstream notebooks like the MacBook Pro.
If you are looking for an expert complainer just read the posts from Afib. That idiot can’t get his head around the definition of a sub notebook. He doesn’t need or want one so he thinks no one else should buy one.
He is either a complete moron or he is being paid to belittle Apple’s new products.
I hope for his sake that he is being paid.
To Big Al:
Nice assessment!
“If you’re in the market for a woefully under-powered notebook, lacking Firewire and Ethernet ports, has no upgradeable memory, has a slower and smaller hard drive, and no easily replaceable battery, get a MacBook Air. MBA cannot compete with MacBook Pro.”
Big Al, now your just repeating what I have been threading. Ampar, I’m gad to see that you finally agree with Al and me. By removing all these aforementioned features has made MBA less useful and functional and less practical.
The only “features” that define a sub-notebook is a notebook that is over priced by hundreds of dollars and weighs 3 pounds. Big whoop.
I’m convinced.
I will now buy a MacBook Air as a sub-notebook and secondary Mac workhorse. This is great!
And Afib, you’re still a douchebag.
Afib is nothing more than a third rate consultant and obviously a pussy IRL. He’ll be dead soon.
Ampar:
“And Afib, you’re still a douchebag.”
And you have neither wit nor intelligence.
“He’ll be dead soon.”
Not soon enough to spare the misery of publicly pointing out your ignorance and inconsistencies, Ampar. Besides I enjoy rattling your chain, it’s almost too easy. Thread you later, fanboi.
Afib: I look forward to it. Loser.
It must suck for you having no friends and so many enemies.
Ampar:
“It must suck for you having no friends and so many enemies.”
Are you glad you got that off your chest, Ampar?
Why would I want you as a friend? You’re an arrogant, spiteful, unintelligent, insecure, and illogical fanboi.
LMFAO, pompous ass,
Please enlighten us. You are a great source of entertainment,
Ampar:
<b>”Please enlighten us. You are a great source of entertainment.”<b?
I doubt your capacity for enlightenment. And you’re a great source of familial embarrassment.
Really, Afib? That’s the best you can do? How disappointing.
“Veteran Wall Street executive Roger Ehrenberg and his “entire family are shifting from PC to Apple.”
“We’re getting an iMac with a giant screen for family use in the kitchen. MacBooks for my wife and boys. A Mac Pro for my office and a MacBook Air for travel. An AppleTV for the family room. An Apple Time Capsule and AirPort Extreme for storage,” Ehrenberg reports for Information Arbitrage.”
WOW ! ! ! There are so many really smart people buying the MacBook Air. This is without a doubt a home run for Apple Inc.