MacDailyNews Take: ROTFLOFAO, he called what Ou does “research!” Please see related articles:
• ZDNet’s George Ou Exposed as Ignorant Microsoft Shill – RoughlyDrafted
• George Ou’s Greatest Apple Hits! – The Macalope
• George Ou: When Gerbilling isn’t fun enough – Artie MacStrawman’s Apple Orchard
• George Ou’s Bad Idea: Comparing Apple Ads to Nazi Propaganda – Wired
Espiner continues, “He found that Apple’s latest operating system, Mac OS X, faced more critical flaws than Windows XP and Vista combined… Ou made the comparison as an indicator of how many vulnerabilities might exist in 2008, rather than a comparison of the relative security of the operating systems.”
“Some experts have said that counting vulnerabilities is not necessarily reliable as a measure of security,” Espiner reports. “Tristan Nitot, president of Mozilla Europe, told ZDNet.co.uk this month that it was more important to take into account the time it takes to patch vulnerabilities.”
Espiner reports, “The amount of exploit code available in the wild also has an impact on security. While there are thousands of pieces of code that seek to exploit Windows XP vulnerabilities, exploit code for Mac OS X is relatively rare.”
Full article here.
MacDailyNews Take: In “honor” of George Ou, we’re going to continue surfing the Internet unimpeded with our Mac OS X Firewall turned off for another six years.
should have wrote last POST… @Archie.
STILL OPEN for your hacking skills
amuse me…
I don’t even have a PASSWORD
come on buddy lets see the big man walk his talk
Is this like combining matter and anti-matter? There will be no world left to control.
my machine is on for your musing
lets play ball dick.
WHILE your attempting… remind yourself that I will be pulling your IP with custom tracing software that I personally wrote…
I will OWN U… Archibald !
LET PLAY
is a beaver head
come on
“Amazing, new Mac user here, you all make up explainations to justify your beliefs that Apple can do no wrong.
sounds like religion, is this a cult thing?
example:
A key gauge would be what actual vulnerabilities are out in the wild and being exploited.
why does this matter,”
are you really that stupid? you have to have that explained to you?
The main reason for the mac having more known vulnerabilities is the fact that most components of OSX are open source. So the code can be audited by anyone. Therefore windows could have more vulnerabilities then osx as their code is not accessble by anyone but Microsoft. As Microsoft has been known to patch vulnerabilities secretly i wouldn’t be surprised if there is more.
I would have thought the real measure/s of security are:
1. Percentage of users impacted
2. Average degree (and maybe duration) of impact
MacDailyNews Take: Pass the red Kool-aide. Take a long drink… You will not feel a thing!
Daniel Eran Dilger at Roughlydrafted Magazine ROCKS !!!
While most users will be familiar with ROUGHLYDRAFTED, new users like Archie and others need to pay Dan’s site a visit to educamate themselves.
did you hear that thinksecret is shutting down?
99.235.255.182 = kiddie porner
I’d say u got 24-36 hours before knock on door from FBI..
hahaha, Mac fool. happy zeroing,better make that a 35x overwrite if i was u….
i get in any machine…
99.235.255.182 =
http://www.rcmp-grc.gc.ca/wanted/widziak_e.htm
coming for u, run chicken…
“Security through obscurity? – Whatever – that’s perfectly fine with me whether it’s true or not. It’s more secure.”
Security through obscurity is regarded by any security professional as no security at all.
Say all you like that it’s good that Apple has had 10 times the vulnerabilities of Microsoft this year, but all that shows is how far Apple really is behind in this area. They’re still making rookie mistakes that Microsoft sorted out years ago.
All software has bugs. Unlike Windows, OS X comes with many OSS parts, which get patched regularly by their makers. This is just about Apple and the part makers being swifter at patching their stuff than Microsoft. Besides, counting vulnerabilities is nonsensical if you don’t rate the seriousness of those vulnerabilities at the same time.
Fact is that Mac users have practically zero security issues while Windows sufferers have to stay on their toes all the time. Period.
Regarding security, an IP address is an IP address. Come and get us, Windows’ neotards . Hear that, George Zero-u?!
Realist, Pete, Zune Tang etc have to realise one thing.
Macs are Secure by design as the OS got developed for security from the ground up. The whole OS is based around the Mach kernel which is tiny and has absolutely no useless code. The rest of the functionality is provided in kexts and other libraries rather than being compiled into the kernel.
On Windows However there are certain vulnerabilities which will never get secured without a total OS re-write as it will kill backward compatibility so you have to rely on Security companies to secure against it. They make a killing out of these these vulnerabilities from you suckers. I wouldn’t be surprised when there’s a slow month for viruses and worms if these companies didn’t write their own exploits and release them.
Windows has had to be backward compatible for so many years now that it’s full of spaghetti code written by underpaid, undervalued de-moralised programmers who have since moved on from Microsoft. As a result it’s become useless on the internet out of the box without gatekeeper apps running constantlty taking up valuable processor cycles and interfering with internet clients and services like email to the point of unsuitability it’s a wonder that governments don’t insist that it is banned on the Interweb until it’s fixed.
As Apple’s functionality is mainly kept out of the kernel it’s far easier to repair any vulnerabilities when they creep up so Apple do so promptly. That’s why Apple are able to keep on top of vulnerabilities and Micro$oft aren’t
Basically You’re just uppity kids who’s toy Windows are broken. Face it and move on.
Get a Mac or at the very least, install a flavour of Linux if you’re too tight to get a real computer like a Mac.
Maybe if ol’George had actually read the Secunia website he might have seen things a bit differently.
According to Secunia:
Mac OS X had 26 advisories in 2007, 6 of which remain unpatched
Windows Vista had 17 advisories in 2007 (and this part is interesting they shift to percentages for those critical and those non-criitical)
Windows XP had 30 advisories in 2007 (same deal as vista)
George:, uh buddy, maybe you need some glasses?
PS
The Microsoft Windows Vista and XP do not show what advisories are patched and fixed on the by vendor pages, so I’m not sure if that is a different person writing up the statistics or whether MS had not bothered to patch theirs.
XD
lol, even I was screaming “FUD” when I read Ou’s article yesterday. Microsoft has been playing this game with Linux for a while now…I’m surprised it took so long to get to Apple
” width=”19″ height=”19″ alt=”smile” style=”border:0;” />
Knows All: Your stash came from Belize, right?
Please ignore this idiot. Don’t give him any web hits that he can make any financial claims on. This guy is an obvious troll that doesn’t deserve our attention. Move along. There’s nothing to see here folks.
And once again:
“ZDNet – the «Zune» of tech reporting.”
And once again, the Winodze fanbois are really vicious today. I smell fear. Except for the one or two script-kiddies using their lunch hours to post about pwning us. Go for it, noob — and I’ll follow the trail back to your basement lair to smash your Twinkies…
Ahem, since when did “security by obscurity” refer to the Mac or any other open source based OS?
Look up the meaning of the phrase on wikipedia. It totally refers to Microsoft OS’s. And yes. It’s NO security!
“It totally refers to Microsoft OS’s”
It’s a generic security term.
So you have the entire source code for Mac OS X and have reviewed it for all vulnerabilities? Good for you.
@Archibald
Sorry to inform you there is no
information of that nature on my machine.
Nor has there been.
Obviously you didn’t get into my machine.
thx 4 trying
I will say one thing. I was surprised that you mentioned about the police. For a second I thought you figured something out. Wrong division. Try Metro next time.
Ron