“What could/should Apple do to take sales and profits to the next level? Simple. Release an Apple branded Windows-based PC. I know, I know, this kind of talk is bound to upset the hardened Apple fanatic, but it makes perfect sense. One of the things that’s undoubtedly helped boost Mac sales is Boot Camp. Now there’s no punishment for switching platforms because you can take your old platform with you, but just as some people got tired of paying the Microsoft tax when they wanted a PC to run Linux on it, people who want Apple hardware in order to run Windows on it will eventually see the Mac OS as an Apple tax. Why doesn’t Jobs and the crew at Cupertino just skip that whole Apple tax step and offer customers a choice of operating systems. Since Windows is the dominant OS at present, that’s a good place to start, but if Apple really wants to offer the customer real choice, Linux would also be great,” Adrian Kingsley-Hughes blogs for ZDNet.
“If Apple really wants to rock investors and take profits to the next level, it should start offering Windows-based Macs. Profits would skyrocket, Apple would enter an existing market and shake it up, investors would be happy because Apple’s market share would explode and everyone would be happy,” Kingsley-Hughes writes.
Full article here.
Why doesn’t BMW just start offering vehicles with 3-cylinder Suzuki engines? Kingsley-Hughes obviously doesn’t get it: Windows tries to be an upside-down and ass-backwards fake Mac; and an older Mac, at that. Based on history, one would imagine that Apple CEO Steve Jobs thinks Windoze is a bad rip-off of his own company’s OS, perpetrated and inflicted upon the world by Bill Gates. The very last thing that an Apple headed by Steve Jobs would ever do would be to execute Kingsley-Hughes’ dopey, wrong-headed lunacy.
The world made a mistake with Windows. They must be educated; and, slowly, they are learning. Windows is junk compared to Mac OS X. Frustrating, uninspiring, derivative junk. Offering junk when you have a vastly superior product is not a recipe for success.
Boot Camp exists to provide a “Windows Insecurity Blanket” for the ignorant masses. It is an educational tool. It embraces junk in order to ultimately extinguish it. Boot Camp entices the Windows-only sufferers and quickly teaches them via simple comparison that, contrary to their belief, they do not need Windows and that they greatly prefer Macintosh.
Uhhh, let me think for a second….
HELL NO!!
There, now my brain doesn’t hurt anymore
I can’t honestly believe that someone actually wrote this with the belief that it could possibly work.
Yes! And 80 grit toilet paper!
To better remove Windows from your thumb drive….
MW:never….hah!
HELL NO!
These freaks just don’t get it. Apple does not release junk. Windows is junk. And by the way Apple does offer choice. They are the only ones who do! Apple is not all about profits. They are about product.
The very reason that Apple is succeeding is because the world is full of people with idiotic ideas like this.
just get a Hitachi if you want windoze….hehe
It’s the crack addiction thing. You know it’s killing you, but you still want to have it in your life as a compromise.
Some PC people are like that.
I just threw up in my mouth a little bit …
Noooooo! Why Earth should they change their very successful business model? What they are doing now is working too well to change up.
Another writer who doesn’t take 2 mins to do some research.
Reaches up butt, pulls out an idea.
HOLY COW!
I can’t believe someone seriously wrote that piece. That’s obviously someone who has never used a Mac to see WHY they are selling like they are. That has got to be the most ridiculous article I’ve ever seen.
Magic Word: Covered
as in “This idea is COVERED in Bull CRAP”
Poppa needs a slew of web site hits!
Oh please! Won’t these idiot analysts give it a rest.
Bottom feeders will stoop to anything, I guess.
Apple ALREADY sells the best PCs on the market.
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So sorry, Steve doesn’t do windows.
I think yesterday’s news from Apple quite adequately proved why this idea is a nonstarter.
If Apple actually sold Windows only machines, tech support costs alone would kill their bottom line.
This would be a great idea if Gateway/Acer, Dell, HP, Lenovo, etc. didn’t think of it first.
I think we can all agree that MACs could use a drastic refresh and maybe shaking free of its stodgy, derivative OS would be a great place to start. Leopard or Pussy or whatever is typically late and MAC users will be disappointed if it ever comes out anyway. Perhaps putting a top-shelf, real world OS on Apple’s toy hardware might generate some interest. You MAC sheep might actually get to play games or enjoy the fantastic Zune Marketplace. I love it. Come over to the light side.
Your potential. Our passion.™
Horrible idea not even worth reading. A not though on rebranding. Chevrolet bought Korean Daewoo and rebranded all cars to Chevrolet. One wonders what they thought of when they in that move turned the muscle-car brand into a Toycar looking brand. It looks soo wrong at so many levels to see the Chevrolet logo on one of those miniscule Korean cars.
this is so asinine on so many different levels it’s almost not worth addressing. OS X “tax”?!? WTF!?! OS X costs Apple virtually nothing to install on a new Mac! It would be Windoze that would add significantly to the cost of a “hybrid” Mac. What a douche!
Death to Windows! Malalalalalalalalalalah . . . !
In other news, Morton’s Steak House is now offering a Big Mo hamburger. It’s really just a Big Mac unwrapped and gently placed on a china plate with a nice garnish. Order up.
NO! What a short sighted Microsoft Windows Butt Monkey Lemming Fan Dork Cult Member™. What a moron, that has no frickin’ clue.
Apple already sells the best Windows PCs, it just comes with Mac OS X software installed. If some numb skull wants to replace their beautiful Mac OS X software with that mutant virus called Windows Vista they can do so.
Course, that would be a sure sign of that users insanity and a good reason to lock them away for treatment for awhile.
Turn, as in we’re turning the corner on this now.
The time to throw a hail mary (sell a windows computer) is when there is no hope. Apple clearly has a plan to take their sales / profits to the next level.
There is so much upside for the Mac business. Apple could realistically double its market share – that is HUGE potential. No need to follow stupid advice.
Keep up the good work Apple.
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http://firetonykornheiser.blogspot.com/
“Since Windows is the dominant OS at present, that’s a good place to start.” This made me literally LOL.
Kingsley-Hughes’ next great idea to take Apple’s profits to the next level: Shut the company down and give the money back to the shareholders. It’s so obvious in retrospect. Coming in next week’s column.
YES!!
Apple should offer a choice of Linux, Windows or Mac OS X installed.
Their hardware sales will go through the ROOF!!!
Apple already has a great retail presence, they are first and foremost A HARDWARE COMPANY.
But they should keep a copy of Mac OS X on the drive until the user specifically requests to delete it.
“Reaches up butt, pulls out an idea.”
Isn’t that also on Ballmer’s to-do list? Except that I imagine he has assistants do the reaching.
Apple doesn’t want to juice its stock value. It wants to build a sustainable expanding business. It’s a long-term goal… I know, a foreign concept to Wall Street.
I want some of what Zune is smoking
With IBM selling on the PC business and Hitachi exiting the business today, I’m thinking…Windows is a sinking ship?
Apple would have to ramp up support for Windows users, put up with the poor performance and incompatibilty with Vista.
Apple would have to release a new low cost Mac Pro platform, because PC users will want the options of changing graphics cards, sound cards, hard drives…blah blah blech.
And…every article I’ve read and comments posted from PC users, sing the song of, the Mac is too expensive.
Let the Windows ship sink…
Absolutely Not! The centerpiece of Apple’s entire strategy is its operating system. As Steve Jobs said at the recent technology conference, Apple is really a software company that understands the supreme importance of deisgn and interface. Why the hell would Apple possibly want to cannabilize its entire strategy by embracing Windows? People either use Macs or switch to Macs to avoid the incompetence, abuse, and failure that is Windows (check out http://www.roughlydrafted.com for some great articles about how vile and incompetent Microsoft (and Windows) is). Apple has succeeded so well the last few years because it offers a superior—way superior—operating system, interface, user experience, and mindset to Windows. It’s incomprehensible to me why would Apple would destroy all its worked for.
What Apple needs to do is exactly what it’s been doing: Hammer away at Microsoft and continue to educate people on how OSX, and the Macintosh in general, will make their lives more fun and more productive, with way fewer hassles and problems (and incompetence) than they were used to with Windows.
Apple would have to be f*#cking crazy and stupid to serve itself to Microsoft on a platter like that.
I think that he’s partially right — one of the things fuelling Apple switching is the idea that if you don’t like it, you can just put Windows on it, and if you really want a Mac but need occasional Windows applications, you can run Parallels or VMWare. I know several people who have tried Macs because of the Windows fallback, and I know several people whose employers allowed them to get MacBooks or MacBookPros, not because the employee actually needed Windows, but because the boss *thought* the employee needed Windows and was reassured by Parallels.
That said, I don’t think offering an Apple-branded WIndows machine is a good idea *or* something Jobs is likely to do — he doesn’t want to have the most market share, he wants to win ideologically.
Solution:
1. Buy a Mac with Parallels
2. Use Transporter to transfer your XP licence & apps to the Mac
3. There is no step 3!
In 3 months, delete the Windows partition.
Sounds a lot like a cry for help from the far side…
or at least a magazine writer worried about there future at one of the PC magazine!
That has to be one of the daftest ideas I have read in a long time.
How hard does it have to be to load boot camp and install Windows?
If you can’t manage that, you should slowly put the computer back in the box and find a pencil and some paper because you are TOO STUPID!
Why the hell would Apple possibly want to cannabilize its entire strategy by embracing Windows?
Apple ALREADY HAS embraced Windows on their hardware by offering Bootcamp
Apple allowed Windows a foot on their hardware, so might as well go all the way now.
The problem is the complicated installing process which would most likely be solved in 10.5.
By Apple offering a choice at purchase, a Windows or Linux loser will feel comforatble with what they know as they boot up and play with Mac OS X.
Then if they decide to free up disk space and toss Mac OS X they can, or switch.
Either case Apple makes a hardware sale.
Because offering Windows has worked out so well for someone else.
Agree that selling Macs with Windows software only is a bad idea, but I disagree with the Take “Boot Camp exists to provide a “Windows Insecurity Blanket” for the ignorant masses.” My quad Pro w/ x1900XT makes a smokin’ Vista gaming rig, and that’s all I use the Vista partition for. When they start making more games for Mac I’ll stop using Boot Camp. But when the Vista version of Quake 4 is $18 and the Mac version is $50, what choice would you make?
First of all, MDN needs to calm down. Did you just call many of the people that just started switching over to Macs for the first time ignorant? Because they still need windows? Let me tell you something, Intuit does not make a quickbooks that runs better on a Mac yet. They just don’t, and it sucks, because it’s the best software for the job.
Quickbooks 2007 on Windows is much better than it’s Mac counterpart, and it pisses me off, because I hate having to run windows for that one program, but I must. So therefore I do.
There are probably a very small handful of companies that have yet to realize that if they make a better product for the Mac (or at least just as good), then they will be better off. But they don’t. So windows in some cases (such as Quickbooks) is a necessity.
I don’t use Windoze as a security blanket, I use it as an IT Guy because sometimes stupid companies like Linksys make their products only function on IE and Windows (which REALLY pisses me off).
So, MDN, on your comment of the article, I would remove the reference where you call people switching over and using windows as a security blanket “ignorant”. Isn’t the whole purpose of having Windows really to entice new people to come over and be able to use windows and then to accidently experience OS X, and realize it truly is a better Operating System?
That’s all I am saying.
As for the article, Apple SHOULD build Windows machines…They can merge Windows and Mac and call it a WHACK! (haha).
No but really, Apple should offer windows preinstalled and set up and ready to go on a machine and sell it…then, it just so happens that OS X is also installed on a different partition and people happen to accidently discover it and realize how great it is.
Basically, sell the mac they have now, but have bootcamp and windows pre-installed and have Windows the default boot. Set it up in their apple stores. Windows fans will come and won’t believe how much faster windows runs on an apple machine than their POS Dell. Then they buy it and…OOPS, they find OS X fall in love, and send Microsoft a “Dear John” letter. (That or just hang a big picture of Steve Ballmer next to a windows box and people will stay away from it thinking it is a scary monster, after all, he is an ugly bastard).
Probably the most stupid idea I’ve heard all year. I love it when pundits who have obviously discovered Apple recently, think they understand all about it.
Can you imagine how this would destroy Apple’s well deserved, great, customer service reputation?
Zune Tang… That’s your best one yet dude.
Who needs to go to comedy clubs to see stand ups to get their laughs when we have our very own clown Zune Tang on MDN.
Long may you give us reason to chuckle friend!!!
Ridiculous article! Why would Apple undermine their own efforts at an OS? We all know Mac is the best platform because of the unique combination of hardware, software, and support but more importantly the “software experience” of Mac OS X. Second, Windows users already complain about lack of choice and the high price of Apple computers…
Ask any Apple genius and i’d bet most users aren’t having problems with the hardware.. the majority of questions are software-related. Apple would have to create a whole tech-support ecosystem just to support that M$ junk. What is Apple going to do, refer people to M$ for tech support? That makes zero sense.
Again the unique combination of hardware, software, support system (retail stores) creates Apple, not just the hardware (although it is the hardware that ultimately supports them).
More proof that, despite Apple’s stellar success based on their stellar OS X, there are still plenty of people in the tech business that are *still* utterly blinded by the sense that Microsoft is the only choice. They’re wrong.
(and all they gotta do is watch the Leopard preview!)
Well, I wouldn’t buy one. I bet this guy is about to pony up for a new license of Vista too…
http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=07/10/23/1255235&from=rss
I think the idea makes sense. Sure Mac OS is far superior, but many people can’t or won’t use it: 1) because they just like Windows better (remember 1/3rd of Americans are said to suffer from a psychiatric disorder), 2) because they’re too lazy or afraid or just not willing to take the time to learn a new operating system, and 3) because their proprietary office software is Windows-based (yes, I know they could use Boot Camp or Parallels but Boot Camp is too much trouble and Parallels is too slow, especially on older or memory-limited computers).These combinations add up to a lot of prospective customers. Apple’s hardware is price competitive and much more beautiful.They would sell many computers, especially in the business world where proprietary software often locks out Mac OS. Apple’s more attractive and durable hardware would be a business plus. Finally, having all those Macs out there in Windoze land would lead many to try MacOS and soon find themselves donning their own cult robes. I know the thought of selling Macs loaded with Windows upsets MDN and the Lunatic Fringe of iCultists that read this blog and have long ago drunk the Apple Kool-Aid, but it makes a lot of sense from a business perspective.
NEVER….NEVER…NEVER
That’s really a smart suggestion. I mean consider the computer companies that started offering Windows-based solution and lost their pride in their own OS. They made it big now, like:
– SGI, Windows NT instead of IRIX. Bye-bye SGI
– IBM. Windows instead of OS/2. Bye-bye IBM PC division
– Palm. We like Palm OS, or maybe linux or maybe Windows Mobile?
Eff NO, that would be the worst thing apple could ever do!!!!!!!
No; Apple should not sell computers without Mac OS X. . .
“remember 1/3rd of Americans are said to suffer from a psychiatric disorder”
It’s closer to half and it’s called the Republican Party.
Boot Camp works quite nicely, thank you.
THE JOKE OF THE DAY
If this wasn’t written just to get web hits, then it just proves that any IDIOT can be a blogger for ZDNet.
Stuck in a Windows forest for too long, he has been reduced to being a blind, blubbering fool. When he can escape and see more, all he can see is more Windows forest.
Apple don´t try to do it,if you do it you are going to bankrupt,the only thing you can do is low the price of actual mac line.
You’re too late. Savage already put out a book: Liberalism is a Mental Disorder.
MDN Word: boys, as in “Now you boys play nice!”
Windows based Macs are already available running VMware and Parallels and soon boot camp. No Apple will not feature a Mac running Windows only because it is just plain STUPID!! OSX is a superior product as it stands in version 10.4, Leopard will just put an exclamation point on just how superior it really is versus XP or Vista.
Sales are booming and with 10.5 coming they will just grow larger without the need of Windows and all of its excess baggage like viruses, spyware, and lack of anything worth looking at or using.
If Apple sold Windows machines, they would have to license Windows as an OEM. The terms of Microsoft’s OEM agreement is that the OEM provides the user support. That’s a losing proposition for any company that treasures customer satisfaction.
Apple’s current strategy is much better: allow the customer to install retail versions of Windows with Bootcamp. That allows Apple to reap the benefits of selling Windows machines without any of the disadvantages of being an OEM.
I read his article, his main complaint is not really with Bootcamp, its paying for the Mac OS X when he buys a computer from Apple (Apple Tax) he calls it.
So, have you found a home PC yet, that you can opt out of buying Windows? (Microsoft Tax). Dell has business machines with Ubuntu installed, but I did not find any in the “Home” section, please correct me if I am wrong.
So what’s wrong with Bootcamp? He thinks it is too much trouble to have to 1) create a partition, 2) install the Windows OS and 3) install the Apple drivers.
Heh, I do that on my PC’s every 6-12 months anyway because things have gotten so out of hand, its easier than trying to fix it.
It is nice to have the freedom of running whatever application or game you want to run at full hardware speeds, so run Bootcamp if you want. What’s the big deal?
I bought my first mac in December last year. The fact that windows could run on it was a big plus point for me, just incase I ever need to use it for whatever reason. I had never ever used a mac in my life before I bought my own.
How many times have I used windows on my mac in the 11 months of ownership?
Once. To see what it looked like. A couple of weeks ago. I have never looked back.
If Apple made a computer that was only pre-loaded with Windows, it would not be a Mac. It would be an Apple PC. If someone buys a Mac to run Windows, there is no “Mac Tax”. It’s called a galss of ice water to those in hell.
ah… oh… HAAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAA!!!!!
This writer has a thing or two to learn about Apple…. and Windows for that matter.
wow, mdn magic word: matter
@RealtorBEN and Atacokai
I pretty much agree,
Make Boot Camp “OEM” pre installed with windows XP an option, the mass’s do not know how, or want to set up Boot Camp, and Apple with OEM pricing could make it more affordable for those that need , or think they need Windows. I think it should not be the default though.
For once in a long time….The take nails it on the head.
Glad to see y’all are back from the Kool Aid rehab center.
Just my $0.02
And they call US lemmings!
@wally, you still don’t get it, do you? It is all about the WHOLE user experience. Selling only half of the equation is no equation at all. It is an incomplete suggestion, nothing more. What makes a Mac a Mac is the whole package, OS X AND the hardware. The two are not meant to be mutually exclusive. Hence, the killing of the mac clone program by Jobs. Not to mention the existence of an OS X derivative on the iPhone, ipod and Apple TV. A portable mac everywhere you need it.
As others have so deftly noted, supporting that boat anchor of an OS (can it even be called that? An OS? Barely, I suppose) alone would KILL their profit margins.
ZuneTang- Brilliance! Well crafted post.
“Should Apple start offering Windows-based Macs?”
– NO
Also, no reason for the long article. Too many words for such a short answer.
Move along now.
Noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!!!
Other way round. OS X for PCs would be great. Charge the same price as Vista Ultimate and many would buy.
“Why doesn’t BMW just start offering vehicles with 3-cylinder Suzuki engines?”
that is a bad analogy. a beemer powered by a 3 cylinder zuk would run better than anything running windows……
No, Non, Niet, Neï, 01001110 01101111, etc.
Then, the machine that *IS* built for running Apple software would be pointless… I don’t think people will spend 2 times the money of a pc to buy a mac and run windows in it.
Should Apple start offering Windows based Macs?
F&*% NO!!!
Actually, it’s kind of stupid question because they already do!
Boot Camp anyone?
LOL… like most everyone………………….NO!
“You’re too late. Savage already put out a book: Liberalism is a Mental Disorder. “
having had the chance to hear Mr. Savage speak, i can safely say that based on experience alone he should be an expert in the field….
I, for one, only use one important application, AutoCAD, that runs on my Macs in Windoze. I hope that AutoDesk, and other software companies with important applications in specific fields, see the light and bring out their programs for Mac. I don’t think Apple should make PC machines, the software companies need to write for Mac.
No.
But, why shouldn’t Apple create an OS that works on PC’s. But better than any version of Windows. Wouldn’t that frost Microsoft!
“remember 1/3rd of Americans are said to suffer from a psychiatric disorder”
“It’s closer to half and it’s called the Republican Party.”
Just because you don’t agree with someone, it doesn’t make them idiots. It’s called democracy. Elitism always has lead to absolute rule, I for one, don’t want to live in that kind of world. Think about it.
“Should Apple start offering Windows-based Macs?”
Of course!
And then “Steve Jobs should ‘shut down’ Apple Inc. and return the money to shareholders,”.
Being stupid is the one inalienable right no government can take away.
The man is quite obviously detached from reality in general, and computers in particular.
;(
I can’t believe someone would write this with any seriousness. It’s the innovation of products like OS/X that are the reason sales are soaring. If anything, the correct statement would be to sell OS/X for regular pcs, not give it up.
And to think this person gets paid a salary to say things like that…
And Olive Garden should start offering ravioli covered in poop sauce.
I don’t think Apple wants to add to their support headaches. It would be wise for Apple to steer clear of such silly nonsense!
MDN: You were served up a slow pitch right down the center of the plate and that was the best “Take” you could come up with?
If you need help writing these things, I am available…
“Just because you don’t agree with someone, it doesn’t make them idiots.”
I thought everyone else’s opinion was always wrong? Isn’t that how it works?
“And Olive Garden should start offering ravioli covered in poop sauce.”
Start?
Yes Apple really should go into the business of supporting Windows malware……
N O T !
Oh, crap…here we go again.
Magic Word: “staff” as in, “The MDN staff has infected us with THIS topic once again!”
Apple selling Windows-only boxes would reduce margins down to nearly nothing, and corporate IT departments would still ignore them because they’re afraid of Apple.
Apple should only sell Vista-based Macs if Microsoft will take responsibility for all the customer tech support calls. Having to run a customer tech support operation for Windows Vista would bankrupt Apple. Let Microsoft handle that mess.
I run Windows in Parallels and Boot Camp out of necessity. Software that I implement runs on MS SQL Server and Oracle – Windows only. Well, that’s life. Hopefully someday that will change, but not likely in the near future.
But to suggest Windows-only Apple systems defeats the purpose of a Mac. Mac OSX is simply a better, more stable, and more secure operating system. Push Boot Camp or Parallels and you get to run Windows without losing the superior OS. Which is what this clown is suggesting – lose MacOSX Shit, if you want to be a lemming just set your Mac up to initially startup with Windows!
Bad idea. This dude has some other agenda.
Lose the religion. Yes, Apple should offer Windows OS as a built-to-order option. However, it will be as a dual boot option. Then people can buy Parallel to run Windows in VM with Boot Camp Windows Partition.
Hell NO!
Instead, try capturing corporate and enthusiast business by releasing an $899 mid-tower.
“Just because you don’t agree with someone, it doesn’t make them idiots.”
“it is not true, as some insist, that the majority of conservatives are stupid, however it is demonstrable that the vast majority of stupid people are conservative.” – John Stuart Mill
or, looked at another way, it is true that if i disagree with someone they are not automatically stupid. but just maybe the reason i disagree with them is BECAUSE they are stupid.
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stupid idea that caused alot of comments here.
However! Apple should release OS X and allow companies like Dell and Gateway to sell “their” own OS X boxes. THAT would take the apple to the next level. imagine an iDell, iSony or iAcer…. hmm i should trade mark that….
Should Apple start offering Windows-based Macs?
YES! To keep the like of DELL, HP and SONY out of the retail space as much as possible and in the crappy office/computer stores where they belong!!
STOP
THE
INSANITY!
What a retard.
I’m retarded so I can use that word. Anyone who is not a retard will be maliciously sued for using that term.
Should Apple start offering Windows (and Linux) -based Macs?
YES! To keep most all PC users coming in to Apple Stores and making it that their primary computer store.
Mac OS X is clearly the superior OS and will remain so, but others have other needs or something they are used to and can’t install a OS themselves.
By having something a computer user is used to first, then have them try another OS to see if they like it. Then make it easy to switch between OS’s.
Auto file transfer between OS’s!! and applications!
There really are some incredibly stupid people and Adrian Kingsley-Hughes is one of them.
Stupidest idea ever. Mac hardware is only 50% of the experience. And the hardware isn’t what you use to “work”. It’s the operating system. Duh.
Every Microsoft Fanboi, yes there really are quite a few of them, thinks that the key to Apple’s recent success is their pretty hardware.
The pretty hardware became fashionable and it snowballed from there.
Not one of them has any idea that it’s all about the software and the good looking hardware is just a bonus.
If you could just hold a gun to their heads and force them to use Apple software for a while.
Microsoft Fanbois. Can’t get them to try a Mac and you can’t shoot them.
that’s one of the most ridiculous things i’ve heard in a long while!
LOL…./no
What Apple should do is this
Sell a computer user a Mac with the option of Windows & OS X, Linux and OS X or just plain OS X.
The Windows install would be extra, the Linux install would be free and OS X is free like it is now.
The customer goes home and the Mac boots up into the OS set from the Apple Store, Windows or Linux. So the user is familiar with what they know.
Within Windows or Linux there should be a option to boot up into Mac OS X for them to try. With a note that they can switch back to Windows or Linux just as easily.
Mac OS X will boot and ask the user if they want to transfer a copy of their photo’s, documents and movies (temporarily or pernamently) from Linux or Windows into Mac OS X iLife apps and such.
The user can decide if they like Mac OS X or not, switch back to Windows/Linux and delete the Mac OS X partition or delete the Linux/Windows partition.
WHAM BOOM BANG!!
NO WAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
And then, iPods should come with Zen’s interface
What Apple should do is this
Sell a computer user a Mac with the option of Windows & OS X, Linux and OS X or just plain OS X.
The Windows install would be extra, the Linux install would be free and OS X is free like it is now.
The customer goes home and the Mac boots up into the OS set from the Apple Store, Windows or Linux. So the user is familiar with what they know.
Within Windows or Linux there should be a option to boot up into Mac OS X for them to try. With a note that they can switch back to Windows or Linux just as easily.
Mac OS X will boot and ask the user if they want to transfer a copy of their photo\’s, documents and movies (temporarily or pernamently) from Linux or Windows into Mac OS X iLife apps and such.
The user can decide if they like Mac OS X or not, switch back to Windows/Linux and delete the Mac OS X partition or delete the Linux/Windows partition.
WHAM BOOM BANG!!
When anyone says, “it makes perfect sense” you know they are about to say something really stupid.
Is it April 1st already?
What a stupid asswipe. Buddy, get the hell out of writing anything that requires a brain. Dumbass.
How can someone be so stupid to write such an article?!?
Apple cannot compete with the junk PC manufacturers who sell windows boxes.
This is simply unfeasible. You only need to know how the IT industry works for 10 minutes to know that.
That this guy is paid to write such nonsense is proof that any idiot becomes a journo in America nowadays…
What a frickin’ schmuck!
This clown, like Dvorak and many other page-hit trolls before him, is proposing that Apple should abandon their product differentiation. After all, jumping on the windows bandwagon worked out so well for DEC, SGI, Data General, and Tandem, didn’t it?
You can’t make money in the Windows PC business with higher-quality hardware. The people who will settle for windows simply won’t pay for quality. In fact, most of them can’t even tell the difference.
-jcr
And what would you have?
…the best POS on the planet!
Few if any get it still, including most Mac Users. Apple is NOT a hardware company. Apple is NOT a software company. Apple IS a systems company. Apple develops and maintains the complete package of hardware, OS and SDKs. So does it make “perfect sense” for Apple to sell Winows machines? See above!
MW: local – as in Adrian Kingsley-Hughes is just another local yokel!
To what end?
Ha Ha Ha, no.
without even reading the article, i would disagree, because that would defeat the whole point of the mac, a tightly integrated operating system designed from the core out
You can install any x86 OS on a new Mac. That “next level” is already here.
BUT!
Apple will be forced to offer OS X to any x86 PC.
This is something that has been overlooked because of the tiny market share, but as the OS X market grows, this will be a problem.
The governments will never accept an OS – hardware monopoly, especially not EU. All computer hardware and most software sold by one single company!!?? I don’t think so.
Apple will slit into an OS part, potentially as profitable as MS, and an hardware part, preferably as successful as “the new HP”.
This will finally kill widows, once and for all. And hopefully office too.
Actually, last time I went to Tekserve in NYC, they had a deal where they would sell Macs with Bootcamp and Windows XP already installed for an extra fee. I think it makes sense for a third party reseller to make that offer. But for apple to do it would be stupid.
@Mr. Peabody, “To what end?”
Oh yeah that’s right, Hitachi’s leaving the consumer PC market so Apple needs to fill the gap that creates.
Look, the very concept is so upsetting I’m answering my own questions.
I think Steve needs to go public this afternoon and assure us that we’re not selling our souls to the devil.
” It’s really just a Big Mac unwrapped and gently placed on a china plate with a nice garnish.”
Whereas the Mac is just a Windows PC served in a white plastic or brushed aluminum box.
Steve has a plan for you all, and that’s to migrate you to Intel first, then to Vista.
Apple will start selling PCs with Windows pre-loaded. And you will like it. Because Steve can do no wrong.
That’s gotta be the dumbest sh*t I ever heard.
I suppose you could preload windows if someone asked via bootcamp after the sale… but even the thought makes me sick to my stomach. Imagine the calls they’d have to field at tech support.
On a side note, I’d love to have been hanging out with Steve Ballmer after the Apple earnings report yesterday.
This is truly idiotic. And by the way, by “hardened apple fanatic,” he means “anyone who disagrees with this article.”
“Why doesn’t BMW just start offering vehicles with 3-cylinder Suzuki engines?”
Here’s a video of a Suzuki Swift Vs BMW M3. With the BMW getting it’s ass handed to it, MDN could be right, perhaps BMW should start looking at Suzuki engines.
MacDaddy: That’s a big load of horseshit. But you knew that.
“MacDaddy: That’s a big load of horseshit. But you knew that.”
I’m sure that’s what you said about the idea that Apple might switch to Intel processors.
Now every Mac fanboy thinks Intel is great because Steve says so.
On the day Steve blesses Windows you will all change your tune and start singing it’s praises because fundamentally you are mindless, easily lead sheep.
You will point out that “it’s not the underlying OS, it’s the Safari browser and iTunes and iLife apps that make a Mac a Mac”
Lets wait and see how that plays out.
What a maroon! The whole point of Boot Camp is NOT to give Windows users a method of using Windows on Apple hardware, but to ease the transition of a Windows user to the Mac. That’s why Boot Camp requires a reboot and doesn’t work via virtualization like Parallels – Apple wants to give a Windows user the ability to access Windows IF ABSOLUTELY NECESSARY, but wants to make it inconvenient to do so.
While Apple is a hardware company, that last thing Steve Jobs wants is people associating Apple hardware with Windows. They’d start calling it a WinMac or something stupid like that, and completely dilute the Mac brand.
MDN – you for got to put your “Think Before You Click” warning.
And one more thing:
Apple just experienced 37% year over year sales increases, while the overall PC industry had about 6%-7% growth. Gee, Apple should really change it’s sales model and product mix, because obviously the world wants Windows PCs <extreme sarcasm alert!>
MDN magic word: special, as in Macs are special running OS X and not Windows.
They already DO sell machines that run Windows (and they run Windows better than any other machine!) Who in their right mind would want a machine that runs only ONE OS????
What was he THINKING? Oh, sorry, that was a silly remark.
“Who in their right mind would want a machine that runs only ONE OS????”
Somebody who can’t be bothered learning two OSs when Windows is all you need.
Very few people can go thorough life only using Mac OS X.
Really a silly idea! What should Apple sell windoze machines when everyone knows that windoze won’t exist anymore in 2012?
@Simplicity, “Very few people can go through life only using Mac OS X.”
What?
Yo Adrian,
Thanks for the joke, I’ve been laughing for 10 minutes. Next to John Dvorak and Ann Coulter you may be my favorite stand up comic.
MDN Magic Word: person. As in no person could really be this stupid.
It is very disturbing that there has yet to be a mention of Apple’s poor laptop and consumer desktop specs on this thread. The Mac Pro offers decent hardware customization options. But the: Mini, iMac, MacBook, and MacBook Pro, are all severely crippled. The only reason that we have a Mac in our house is because of OS X. I would build my own PC and then put OS X on it before I would ever purchase a Mac for use with Windows. Too bad that Apple will never allow that to happen…
Consider that most people who would purchase a Windows-based Mac would do so for either business or gaming reasons. Undemanding business users might be satisfied with current Mac hardware. But gamers would be unhappy with the VRAM in most Macs. Many games will not play on computers with integrated graphics (bye-bye to the Mini and MacBook). Lots of games are already or will soon make use of more than 256MB of VRAM (bye-bye iMac and MacBook Pro).
Additionally, I’ve experienced severe hardware malfunctions with the last 3 Macs I’ve owned. One has a combo drive that broke twice within a year (Apple wants more than 300USD to fix). One has a SuperDrive that will burn most DVD+/-R at only 2X (Apple issued a patch but the problem persists). And the other had a defective motherboard. It Just Works My &%$!
I’m anxious to see what new hardware Apple releases with OS 10.5. Maybe Apple hardware will finally be competitive. At least Apple had an excuse when Macs used PPCs.
“The people who will settle for windows simply won’t pay for quality. In fact, most of them can’t even tell the difference”
Because, when you open the boxes, there is no difference!
The proposition that Macs somehow uses magical higher quality Intel processors, ATI Accelerators and so on is easily proved to be false.
“@Simplicity, “Very few people can go through life only using Mac OS X.”
What?”
Well lets ask the question. Who in this forum has never used Windows. I’ll bet nobody.
So lets go to a different future looking proposition, who, if they knew that their family would be stuck dead if they ever do, is prepared to swear that they’ll never ever use Windows in the future, even once, for anything?
Any takers? Didn’t think so.
Isn’t NOT using Windows the reason Apple is out-performing the rest of the PC market? Apple’s playing it real smart by marketing Macs as being able to run Mac OS X and Windows. But if you want that great Apple hardware and software, you have to pay for your own copy of Windows AND get your tech support elsewhere. So Apple already has whatever benefit comes from selling a Windows-compatible PC without paying a licensing fee to Microsoft and incurring the significant expense of supporting Windows with tech support.
One more vote.
“Should Apple start offering Windows-based Macs?”
No.
“Should Apple start offering Windows-based Macs?”
They already do, and most people run Windows on them one way or another. So the only remaining question is whether Apple should sell it’s Windows Macs with Windows pre-loaded.
What a completely rediculous question. You can’t be serious. Sell Macs with Windows. What a fucktarded question!
C’mon man, how about some real news instead of this crap?
read the Macalope’s take on Kingsley-Hughes’ article
Artie MacStrawman and the Wii Effect
http://blogs.cnet.com/8301-13509_1-9802660-20.html?tag=more
He misses another point as well.
There is NO MacOSX tax. The marginal cost of putting Mac OS on a machine is ZERO. Bought and paid for. It is one of the reasons Apple’s margins are higher than competitors. (Windows has become a non-trivial cost of a PC.)
If MS wanted to make the sale (which they don’t) one could imagine including windows as a build-to-order option. Why? Because inflicting pain is not Apple’s style and having to install Windows is pain.
But Apple has broken conventional wisdom and actually spent money on R&D;… 100s of millions… on its own OS. It has two benefits: (1) if it is better or just different, it differentiates and adds value (duh). and (2) on a per-unit basis it is a significant cost advantage. It’s paid for. It costs Apple exactly ZERO. As mac sales rise this financial advantage starts to become real.
If Apple wanted to, it could actually build a Mac cheaper than Dell can build a PC!!!
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I`ll give you all my shares for free, please Steve…. don`t ever let that happen…..
@big jerk
I know, you must be from Holland
F… You MDN
troll ZDNET article is troll
what a bellend i hope this bloke is a work experience volunteer that could only be his excuse surely
Why should you incorporate a piss poor OS int with an OS that is superior to anything that could come out of M$? How about free passes to slap Balmer for his lies and inconsistencies.
this is the worst idea ever.
What part of “Windows Must Die” do people not understand?
Why would anyone want to use Windows??!?! MAC RULZ!!! I was searching for this page on google, found this loser’s blog:
http://apple.cansuckmyballs.com
D00d has a mental illness, for sure!
“investors would be happy because Apple’s market share would explode and everyone would be happy,” Kingsley-Hughes writes.
market share of what? hardware? what about installed base?
Should Apple start offering Windows-based Macs?
Ok the responses are typical:
Response #1: “Oh my god NO!!”
This is based out of fear that Mac OS X will be marginalized in favor of Windows majority. This will not be the case, because people who can will prefer the superior operating system of Mac OS X.
IntelMac’s can ALREADY run Windows, so the point is mute. It’s a matter of making more hardware sales if Apple goes ahead and installs what a customer already is used to instead of turning them away from a purchase of Apple hardware and the option to introduce them to Mac OS X.
Response #2: “OH my God YES!”
Ok, this is a NOT a cossession that “Windows Won”, Windows “won” a long time ago as they captured the majority of the buisness market.
The object is to get brainwashed Windows users to “try something better” which is Mac OS X.
So if Apple caters to the Windows market by installing Windows on Mac hardware, alongside with a Mac OS X partition, then Windows users can try Mac OS X.
Suggestions like “for better security use Windows off the internet, boot Mac OSX for the internet instead” will gradually ease the shock of suddenly switching to another OS.
Then let the customer decide which OS (or even both) to keep.
Right now Apple doesn’t install Windows on new Mac hardware, but a lot of third party Apple hardware vendors will. They are reaping mega-profits doing so too.
Some folks unfortunatly have to use the crap called Windows. But for better security, better software and a better experience they will boot into Mac OS X.
Right now only the “techy types” can install Windows on a Mac.
If Apple does it then it makes it easier for the Window sloser to embrace the Mac experience later on.
Windows can never beat Mac OS X in terms of quality. Apple updates frequently and Microsoft takes many years to come up with crap.
“Should Apple start offering Windows-based Macs?”
That ship has sailed.
Now the only question is whether Apple should preload Windows on it’s WinMacs.
The answer is that sooner or later Apple will bow to market demand and do it.
“The answer is that sooner or later Apple will bow to market demand and do it.”
You’re wrong. Just flat out wrong. Windows is a poor excuse. OS X is the answer.
resellers are already offering windows pre-installed on Macs.
Apple will not waste the money it will cost to do this-the support bill for it alone would kill Apple’s cash reserves.
If someone wants windows on a Mac so badly, go buy your $400 copy of Vista and get to work. Stop being lazy expecting Apple to do everything for you.
“OS X is the answer.”
If the question is what OS do 97% of people not choose for their new PC, you’re right. OS X is the answer.
“If the question is what OS do 97% of people . . .”
Choice? You don’t know the meaning.
And you don’t have to be an asshole. Or do you?
Mac machines are running Windows already.
Why sell the OSX to second class builders.
This would eat at Apples success. And make Apple merely a software company. Stupid idea!!!!
Making both hard/software HAS proven Apple RIGHT!
Steve has the right idea.
LEARN know or your company shall fail.
Sometimes you need to do everything yourself in order to do it right.
AND well then you have more control and better results.
APPLE
Mac CLONE wars!!!!
Oh Kingsley-Hughes you are a genius at being ignorant!
Your idea has been done.
AND well, ON a MAC with extra software you can run Linux, Windows, and OSX…
In fact, I can download LINUX flavour for MAC and SKIP the OSX thing all together.
IT is AVAILABLE and FREE.
DIG deeper… Kingsley-Hughes you are ignorant!!!!
AND stupidity glows well on you.
do-little
“Choice? You don’t know the meaning.”
Apparently you don’t.
You can’t maintain that Windows and OSX PCs cost the same, yet OS X is vastly superior, yet there is some conspiracy which touches 97% of customers and prevents people adopting this equally priced but vastly superior product at rates greater then 3% worldwide.
“Apparently you don’t.”
Apparently I do.
Your argument is overly simplistic and typical straw man. And I said nothing about a conspiracy. The historical reasons for Microsoft’s dominance and Apple’s enormous oversights and pitfalls have more to do with the present installed base, growth and marketshare.
You argued that 97% of consumers “choose” Windows. And for that, I think you’re full of shit.
http://apple.cansuckmyballs.com
Boot Camp exists to provide a “Windows Insecurity Blanket” for the ignorant masses. It is an educational tool. It embraces junk in order to ultimately extinguish it. Boot Camp entices the Windows-only sufferers and quickly teaches them via simple comparison that, contrary to their belief, they do not need Windows and that they greatly prefer Macintosh.
Ditto to you MacDailyNews! My sentiment exactly!
and again…I hope all these windows loosers don’t come around to mac os. why? ’cause those Asshoe will bring virus infestive asses with them to our God given’s Leopard… Stay over to your ms crapshits vista over there. don’t come here to our mac os x. WE DON’T WANT YOU!!! GET IT…! (Especially for you!… Zune Tang! What’s your last name? Dumass?) or is it DUMB_ASS?…
what a Dum…ass! Bastarddd! LOL
MacDailyNews Take –
Boot Camp exists to provide a “Windows Insecurity Blanket” for the ignorant masses. It is an educational tool. It embraces junk in order to ultimately extinguish it. Boot Camp entices the Windows-only sufferers and quickly teaches them via simple comparison that, contrary to their belief, they do not need Windows and that they greatly prefer Macintosh.
Ditto to MacDailyNews! and again…
I hope all these windows loosers don’t come around to mac os. why? ’cause those Asshoe will bring virus infestive asses with them to our God given’s Leopard… Stay over to your ms crapshits vista over there. don’t come here to our mac os x. WE DON’T WANT YOU!!! GET IT…! (Especially for you!… Zune Tang! What’s your last name? Dumass?) or is it DUMB_ASS?…
what a Dum…ass! Bastarddd!
Apple branded Windows PC’s is too stupid of an idea to even discuss….
Apple will never allow OS X to legally run on “any” PC Hardware. However, I do envision the day when tightly controlled and Apple Spec’ed Clones are allowed to be manufactured…
IMO, Apple kinda missed an opportunity by not allowing another company to continue to manufacture Power PC Macs (A Power6 Mac would be interesting). In that manner, you would have more OSX machines on the market while not competing directly with Apple hardware….
People buy Macs for OS X.
The only reason I own a Macbook is because of OS X. Portability is really important for me, and a subnotebook would be great. The 13 inch macbook is still a little too big for me. However, even if Apple never releases a subnotebook I will still buy a Macbook for OS X.
Getting the market share of OS X into the double digits is probably what Apple is focusing on. The moment that happens Apple stands to make more money than if they were just another dell.
“If the question is what OS do 97% of people not choose for their new PC, you’re right. OS X is the answer.”
Joe six pack will use whatever OS comes installed on their computer. The majority of people don’t choose Windows. Windows is just tap water. It’s what you get when you turn the handle.
Macs are for the 3% of people who refuse to use Windows. The moment Apple kills OS X, the cult of Mac dies. The Cult of Mac is Apple’s bread and butter. If it wasn’t for OS X, I would just install Ubuntu on my computer. Microsoft has grown as big as it’s going to get. They’re not going to get non-windows users to convert. People who don’t use Windows choose to use the OS they’re using unlike the majority of Windows users.
“You argued that 97% of consumers “choose” Windows. And for that, I think you’re full of shit.”
Actually I said customers, and another OS than Mac OS X. Unfortunately you can try to argue against proven published facts all you like, 97% of computer purchasers end up buying machines that don’t run OS X.
So presumably you’re trying to say that they knew that they wanted to buy Macs, they chose to go and buy Macs, they tried to buy Macs running OS X, but accidentally brought something running another OS instead?
Don’t you think that’s a little implausible?
“Unfortunately you can try to argue against proven published facts all you like, 97% of computer purchasers end up buying machines that don’t run OS X.”
No one is disputing that, but your are mistaken as to why. I stand by my previous statement. Windows is just what comes out of the tap. Look at internet explorer. There are far better alternatives for it like Firefox or opera that are more secure and have more features, but the majority of people use internet explorer because it’s the only browser they know. Same with Windows. It’s the only OS they know. MS doesn’t release good products because they don’t need to. People will use windows anyway. This is the same company that went and released windows ME. That’s one the perks with having a monopoly. Not that it’s hopeless. Firefox has a market share in the double digits now.
Also, Apple would like to have 97% of computer users using their product as apposed to a Microsoft OS. Having Windows come installed on Macs isn’t going to make that happen. The war between north and south korea never really ended. Same with Apple and MS.
“So presumably you’re trying to say that they knew that they wanted to buy Macs, they chose to go and buy Macs, they tried to buy Macs running OS X, but accidentally brought something running another OS instead?”
The majority of computers come with Windows installed. Up till very recently, computer makers didn’t have a lot of choice in the matter. They have to put an operating system in their machines, and Linux is still a little too difficult for the average user. The majority of people will use what ever comes installed on their computer/ whatever everyone else is using.
Interestingly enough Dell has started releasing computers with Ubuntu installed. It’s a lot easier than other Linux distros, but it’s still pretty difficult to do stuff like get your wireless card up and running. In a few more years though who knows?
Mac users have stuck with apple through everything. Mac users go out of their way to not buy a computer with Windows installed.
Apple is a hardware company and Mac users don’t mind buying expensive hardware for OS X as apposed to cheaper hardware they can get elsewhere with windows installed.
So, why should apple release Macs with Windows installed?
The fact that 97% of people use it requires other computer makers to do so, but Apple is actively developing their own OS, which is better than Windows.
To Name:
Well put. Thanks.
“If the question is what OS do 97% of people not choose for their new PC, you’re right. OS X is the answer.”
Apple: You can’t satisfy everyone so just focus on satisfying people with good taste.
YES!
How to really make an iMac PERFECT!
I admit it, the iMac is one impressive piece of hardware!
Why the heck HP, Dell, Compac, Leveno, Matel, Sony…. can’t make a computer this sleek, beautiful and powerful is beyond me.
HOWEVER, as nice as this computer seems to be it has one huuugggeee flaw, THE SOFTWARE! These things come with some lame Vista rip-off OS installed! This is simply unacceptable.
MY ANSWER!
Wipe the harddrive and install Vista Ultimate, this thing should really purr with a bonafied MS OS installed! Imagine how well this thing would run Publisher, Paint, Access, the clock, Fax Viewer or Command Prompt! I felt so strongly about this that I called Jobs (the real one) himself and told him that Apple should abandon all of this “X” and “i” stuff and just make hardware like the other regular computer companies, let Microsoft worry about software, the developement savings would be tremendous!
My answer was about 30 seconds of silence (bad iPhone connection), then he said, “uh, well, ummm thanks for the suggestion Mr Ballmer, I’ll take it under advisement and give it all due consideration”.
You know, Jobs may not be as dumb as I thought.
http://fakesteveballmer.blogspot.com
“”If the question is what OS do 97% of people not choose for their new PC, you’re right. OS X is the answer.”
Do you think Microsoft, or any company, having a monopoly in the OS business is a good thing? Remember Windows Me?
Operating systems like Linux and OS X at least give the average consumer some choice.
As someone already pointed out Bootcamp is just a security blanket for switchers. Apple selling Macs with Windows installed would be a sign that they have lost faith in OS X.
Even a rumor that Apple would be selling Macs with Windows installed would kill the stock. People would take it as a sign that Apple has given up.
Every other computer out there comes with Windows installed. Leave OS X for the Macs. Microsoft has too much power as is.
I can’t believe all this shit!…
These vista’s bastards in this forum…
why are they even here in the first place?…
Obviously they ain’t got nothin’ better to do with their vista or somethin’?
hey vista’s people! don’t you uh… gota get antivirus download onto you machine first or somethin’? or get wachamacallit sp… um..service patch or somethin’ like that?
com’on children… GO!… SHUUTHHH… BE GONE… Get Lost!
Oh, BTW on my earlier comment about how wonderful iMac is, well it really is.
I’m just back to say that the chairman himself (Bill Gatie Gate)made me say all those things, ’cause we have a little shake up in our (let’s just say in executive meeting earlier this week) or else the replacement is at hand. Please forgive me, Mac! perhaps that might be ok too, maybe my old friend over Cupertino brings me over as a consultant or something like that, like how not to make mistake like vista or security holes… things like that! what say? Steve I may need a job soon.
After all, I’m a Mac at heart (on my knee praying here, can’t you tell?) I love you Steve Job!
Signing out: Steve Balmer
WHOAAAA!!!
That’s deep man…