“I can tell you that – with my limited exposure to the latest Leopard beta – OS X 10.5 is a far more user friendly, home network happy, 64-bit operating system for consumers than Windows Vista (even with SP1) could ever hope to be. This isn’t a classic ‘Apple vs Microsoft’ argument so much as it’s a ‘Windows vs Users’ one,” Chris Pirillo writes.
“To switch or not to switch… is becoming less of a question. Yesterday’s arguments simply DO NOT APPLY,” Pirillo writes.
Full article – recommended – here.
[Thanks to MacDailyNews Reader “Linux Guy And Mac Prodigal Son” for the heads up.]
Zune Bang: “Microsoft poured 5 years of blood, sweat and tears into their shining release …”
Zune, don’t you dare mention the name of one of the most inventive bands in music in the same breath as perhaps the least-inventive and most craptacular OS ever to be unleashed on mankind.
we really are mac ppl here huh, if feel so warm Lets all make and efforts to do to PC websites and get one a week
OK,.
I will start with MSN.com
I agree with Zune, but u wont convince anyone here… its a mac site. All of Mac’s following is here…. which is a grand total of 20 people. Apple is falling apart… Vista is going to destroy Mac and you all know it, but no 1 will admit it. Sad… I almost feel sorry for you… almost. Mac has way more compatability issues, on Mac OS X 10.3, I couldnt even play Oragon trail without it crashing… Programs are always not responding, it has very poor security vs vista, its just that every1 targets microsoft trying to fing holes in its security cause they find it a challenge. Hacking Mac is no challenge. it would take an hour to crack through this frail operating system. People keep attempting to hack and create viruses for vista because thats where most the customers are (vs mac’s handful) Hackers don’t even think its worth it to hack a mac, its like completing a 4 piece puzzle… just not as fun as a jigsaw because its no challenge. Apple is on a route to the end, so you guys should aim your attention on the ipod… because thats all this frail corporation has left…
I’m a Mac user, but this comparison is flawed: Vista is available in the marketplace, and Leopard isn’t… sigh.
Windows Vista is the best thing to happen to Apple since the return of Steve Jobs.
It’s obvious Microsoft is not going to have anything better for years.
Pigeon — You’re really not very good at this spamming thing.
Oh, and a memo to you: Mac users actually know how to type out the word “one” instead of using “1”.
There has to be developer with Leopard installed reading this right now.
Please answer these questions (yes, I know that is a NDA violation – so sue me)
Is there a better way to manage 300 widgets in Leopard (Dashboard Spaces? Dashboard folders?)
How is the multiple clipboard feature implemented?
Are there any animation development tools in the developer tools?
Thanks in advance!
Cubert
“couldnt even play Oragon trail”
That was hysterical for so many reasons!! I’m still laughing.
Thanks!
You know that thing where you pull the cord and it plays animal sounds? That puts Vista to shame!
You won’t see MDN report a loss of Mac share either.
Right, because there won’t be any to report! Mac sales have been growing at three times the industry average, even with Fistula’s release.
MW: “taking” over the world, one switcher at a time
When the trolls invade the MDN forums, suddenly the comments become nearly impossible to read. Did any of you even graduate junior high school?
I just have to laugh derisively at the Windows freaks who call a Mac a toy and then complain that the Mac is no good for playing games!
“Apple’s Mac OS X 10.5 Leopard shames Microsoft’s Windows Vista”
DUH!
For a technical demonstration of exactly when Apple passed up Vista, please see http://www.virtualapple.org
i used an ibm 1620 in college; it didn’t have an operating system. guess what: it shamed vista.
“You know that thing where you pull the cord and it plays animal sounds?”
See ‘N Say! (http://entertainment.howstuffworks.com/see-say.htm)
Also, the Flintstones Fun Fone puts Vista to shame.
Lol, no problem No Squirt For You, and He’s A Lemming… I used “1” as a shortcut for one. People use it all the time online and on Instant Messenger, I guess you wouldn’t know about that because Mac doesn’t get Windows Live Messenger, your stuck with what… an old version of MSN Messenger? Yeah, I wouldn’t Instant Message much either…. I guess you don’t go on the internet much either because it would involve using that mac of yours… I have 1 question for you He’s A Lemming… do you type with 1 finger? Or have you used a keyboard enough to move on up to 2… P.S. Cubert, I like your name, I too am a fan of SOAD.
@pigeon
“Hacking Mac is no challenge. it would take an hour to crack through this frail operating system.”
funny even when they run hacking competitions it takes a long long time and a lot of relaxed rules to crack a Mac
“People keep attempting to hack and create viruses for vista because thats where most the customers are (vs mac’s handful)”
even stranger fact is, the Mac had viruses, 5 years ago tho in os 9 and below, X seems to have gotten rid of them all and grown a larger marketshare to boot
“Hackers don’t even think its worth it to hack a mac, its like completing a 4 piece puzzle… just not as fun as a jigsaw because its no challenge.”
come now, the more you crow about it being so easy yet no one’s actually been able to do it properly in 5 years? something wrong there and it’s certainly you
“Apple is on a route to the end, so you guys should aim your attention on the ipod… because thats all this frail corporation has left…”
the iPhone is doing well for itself, the iPods are great and the Mac is still awesome
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@Chris:
The answer to your question is “no, they haven’t graduated from junior high”, because most of these trollers are in their junior high computer lab class NOW showing their ignorance and immaturity in this forum.
Pigeon — Shortcuts usually don’t work. All you need to do is look at the “shortcuts” that Microsoft tried to take with the development of Vista.
What did it get them?
Bad press. Disdain and sometimes outright hatred from Windows users. Shrinking market share. Vilification (go “online” to look that one up) from tech experts.
Meanwhile, what’s happening with Apple?
Glowing reviews. Growing user base. Home run (iPhone) after home run (Leopard). Record profits. Increasing tech-expert plaudits (again, look it up). The envy of companies everywhere.
So yaah, keep using those shortcuts and worrying about a rickety Microsoft messaging program that no self-respecting computer user over the age of 15 would be caught dead using.
There’s “1” for ya.
Windows Live? The messenger accompanying the website that requires you to allow yourself to see your own live-site? (It’s no joke, I have screenshots)
And there is no Adobe Premier Elements. If you can’t spell – no wonder you can’t use iMovie ’08….
Pigeon, didn’t you forget your first name…”Stool”? Your “security by obscurity” argument has been thoroughly debunked in numerous quarters in the Mac community, including here at MDN.
Poon Tang, Zune Tang, whatever; since it’s U.S. Open time: “You cannot be serious!” Apple copies NOTHING that comes out of Redmond. Redmond copies EVERYTHING that comes of Cupertino going back to the Stone Ages (i.e. the ’80s). M$ wouldn’t HAVE a company if it weren’t for Apple, so save it. Those of us here know the history.
Peace.
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Olmecmystic
Mac sales: less than 2 million a quarter
Windows PC sales: MILLIONS each quarter
Tell me how Macs are growing at three times as much as Windows?
Vista has a flat ass …a club foot …and that hair ..thin, wispy and an insult to the general esthetic, oh and a little piece of wow dragging behind its club foot by a dirty filament of cartilage. Leopard on the other hand is like beauty and function with big red lips and a Brazilian ass ..and best of all ..it doesn’t come with a bald-headed lunatic.
@Olmecmystic
Apple copies a LOT from the rest of the PC industry. I’ll give you some examples:
1) They started FINALLY using the better processors (Intel) starting in 2006. Guess which Microsoft OS ran on it first?
2) Fast User Switching. Made its debut with Windows XP. Guess which Apple OS copied it a few years later?
3) Time Machine. Made its debut with Windows Server 2003 as Volume Shadow Copy. Guess which Apple OS copied it a few years later?
4) Web browsers. Apple didn’t even HAVE a web browser in the 90s. They steal from open source projects (KHTML made Safari)
I could go on and on, but I know you Mac users don’t like the truth.