“Apple Inc. plans to launch a cheaper version of the iPhone in the fourth quarter that could be based on the ultra-slim iPod nano music player, according to a JP Morgan report,” Reuters reports.
“Kevin Chang, a JP Morgan analyst based in Taiwan, cited people in the supply channel that he did not name and an application with the U.S Patent and Trademark office for his report dated July 8,” Reuters reports.
“Apple filed a patent application document dated July 5 that refers to a multifunctional handheld device with a circular touch pad control, similar to the Nano’s scroll wheel,” Reuters reports. “‘We believe that iPod nano will be converted into a phone because it’s probably the only way for Apple to launch a lower end phone without severely cannibalizing iPod nano,’ he said noting that the new phone could have ‘rather limited functionality.'”
Full article here.
Kevin Chang, Conclusion Jumper.
I just don’t see this happening but whatever.
Soon they’ll aso introduce iPhone Shuffle : randomly make and receive calls.
I want my iPhone Shuffle that works like a pimp =)
MDN MW:really!!!!
We know how often these guys are right about Apple. Sometimes they get it right in broad general terms but seldom on anything this specific.
I don’t see it, this patent could be simply for a “multi-function device” and not a nanoPhone.
Oh, and one more thing, the link in the story is mal-formed and missing an initial “h”
I doubt this one. But one thing Apple could do immediately is drop the price on the 4GB iPhone. Since it was reported that it only costs them around $220 to build, and since the 8GB is outselling the 4GB model by a huge margin, they could have the following pricing and still make money:
4GB iPhone $399
8GB iPhone $599
Apple won’t do this. A “cheapo” iPhone? No.
Even after such useless news the stock took a fall
We need a website that keeps the predictions of such analyst and ritually calls them to task when their crystal ball viewings fail to materialize
Ain’t gonna happen…all an article like this is going to do is create more false excitement and make the stock tank.
“‘We believe that iPod nano will be converted into a phone because it’s probably the only way for Apple to launch a lower end phone without severely cannibalizing iPod nano,,,
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Though I believe a smaller iPhone or iPhone nano may be in the works.. I highly doubt an iPhone nano will REPLACE an iPod nano..
I use my nano almost strictly for running with my Nike+ kit. I don’t want to be strapping a phone to my arm and subjecting it to rain and sweat.
The small form factor and storage capacity of iPod nano’s definitely have their place. Apple would be foolish to force people who want a small music player to commit to a two year AT&T contract.
i need the magic word to be “crack” because that is what this anal-yst is smoking….
I think this is probably more right than wrong. I believe that the iPhone development will follow the same basic release path as the iPod. There will – eventually – be an iPhone Nano, and even an iPhone Shuffle. Exactly what form and feature set these will have only Steve knows. I also think that there will be some higher end, corporate-aimed devices to compete with the Blackberries and other high end smart phones.
Personally, an iPhone with just the phone, contact list and iPod capabilites selling for around $150-200 would be a killer, just like the iPod Nano.
In any case, the iPhone revolution will also take several years (just like the iPod) to come to fruition.
Just got my 8gig iPhone today, it’s syncing while I type this. “Anticipation” from Carly Simon keeps running through my head!
“Soon they’ll aso introduce iPhone Shuffle : randomly make and receive calls.”
LMFAO!
That makes no sense…
> We believe that iPod nano will be converted into a phone because it’s probably the only way for Apple to launch a lower end phone without severely cannibalizing iPod nano
He’s saying there will be no market for the iPod nano if there was a low-end iPhone? Therefore, a low-end iPhone will replace the iPod nano? So why didn’t Apple “convert” the big-size iPod into the iPhone, since the that iPhone will cannibalize that iPod’s sales?
My honest opinion is that I haven’t been convinced enough by what I’ve seen to want to spend that kind of money on a new phone. I’ve been pretty happy with what I’ve got. I get my music wirelessly sent to my Black Jack through the “M” app from Mercora, and withe all the other features I have on my Treo, I see no reason to run out and get another phone.
At 4 Gig and 8 Gig we already have an iPhone Nano. What is Apple going to give us a 1 and 2 Gig iPhone? I hope not.
For this track to be played out the current iPhone needs to gain features (like voice dialing) and 3rd party application support.
“Even after such useless news the stock took a fall
We need a website that keeps the predictions of such analyst and ritually calls them to task when their crystal ball viewings fail to materialize”
Problem with that is the stock market doesn’t respond in most part to what guys like this say. There could be major external factors that cause a rise or fall in AAPL.
Trying to associate cause and effect in cases like these are very difficult. But you wouldn’t know that reading these forums. People on here think because some nincompoop writes a bad magazine article about Apple ti causes the stock to fall. Not usually the case.
I heard there is a iPhone Flea in the “channels” as well.
Dumb ass analysts. Hello! If they really had the neurons to think about it, they would realize that the Multi-Touch interfaces makes the click wheel OBSOLETE.
Those patent filings were probably done before the light bulb went off in someone’s head, i.e. the moment they realized that you don’t need to imitate a Click Wheel virtually when you can use gestures to perform the same tasks much more naturally.
And somehow, JP Morgan thinks Apple’s gonna go back to the inefficient Click Wheel when flicking, swiping, and tapping have shown itself to be superior, just because a virtual Click Wheel is listed on an obsoleted patent application.
One of the problems with an iPhone nano is the touch screen. That adds significant cost to the iPhone, and a smaller screen would be less desirable and impractical to use anyway. Plus, think about your mobile phone – if it gets much smaller than an iPhone, it is difficult to use and the mic is farther away from your mouth, so naturally it will pick up more background noise.
Apple may introduce an iPhone nano, but I think it will definitely be a neutered version of the iPhone out of necessity. I don’t see internet browsing, movies, or other such features being practical.
At the same time, the iPod nano would have to have significantly more storage capacity or cost much less (which is not likely). There has to be some differentiation between the two products.
To the Analyst:
Ever had the slightest idea that this could be the patent for another ipod…and not a nano version of the iPhone? Aren’t you the dimmest bulb. Sheesh. Which sounds more reasonable…I wonder
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I would not be surprised if he got his signals crossed, and the fuzzy information from which he made his conclusions was actually a description of components for a next generation iPod, not an iPhone. He’s playing pin the tail on the donkey with the snippets of information that he’s gleaned from sources.
That said, right or wrong, I can’t imagine that there will be just one model of an iPhone in the future. Steve Jobs described Apple as having three legs of a stool, one being the Mac, the other being the iPod, and most recently the third being the iPhone. It leads me to conclude that Apple will likely be developing different versions of the iPhone for different price points and functions, just like the iPod family today. That said, another poster’s idea of an iPhone Shuffle was a hoot!
Remember kids, this is Version 1.0 of the iPhone, akin to the original Mac or iPod. Fast forward a couple of years and imagine. The future will be amazing! You heard it here first! Well, actually, second. Nope, uh, make that 14th. Whatever….
i’m sure Apple will make a cheaper version of the iPhone, but not by “converting” the iPod nano, that’s just not how products are made.
and i don’t believe that this cheaper iPhone will be without a touchscreen.
a smaller screen is not a problem, except for the keyboard, i hope apple finds a way to solve that problem, they could use slide out hardware keyboard, but that would not help decreasing the price of the iPhone.
the easiest way to reduce the price is to get rid of the camera and the iPod functionality (reducing the ram to 1 GB)
i don’t want an iPhone without wifi/mail/safari.
They HAVE to do something because the current iPhone is WAY too expensive for most people. Plus, AT&T sucks camel ass. The Edge network sucks ass as well. You watch the afterbirth of this cluster F&*K occur in the next few weeks.
It’s easy to sit back and claim that the current iPhone is WAY too expensive, but the current iPhone economics say otherwise – it’s worth what people will pay for it, and at the moment that doesn’t seem to be a problem. There is simply no reason for Apple to undercut itself while iPhones are still flying off the shelves. So they probably won’t. I still say a crippled “iPhone Nano” is a stupid idea. In two years, a phone without basic computer functions will be an antique. To some of us they already are.
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@ ishufflemyfeet
Oh, and your post blows goat anus.
;p
“….At 4 Gig and 8 Gig we already have an iPhone Nano. What is Apple going to give us a 1 and 2 Gig iPhone? I hope not.”
@Drunk Cheney, it’s not the storage capacity, it is the feature set which will determine an iPhone nano.. Most likely a iPhone nano would be without all the internet functions.. Just phone, music and contatcts.
“…So why didn’t Apple “convert” the big-size iPod into the iPhone, since the that iPhone will cannibalize that iPod’s sales?”
@Ken1w
Because the iPod stores up to 80gb, the iPhone maxes at 8gb.
iPhone Shuffle…brilliant!
Apple has captured so much attention in the past ten years, people expect FAR more from them than other companies. It’s almost like the 80s repeating. This time, though, Steve is here to ride the wave. I mean… tame Nature itself.
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AT&T is also coming on strong now that it’s back in the public eye. I’d bet that when Steve publicly stated that he wouldn’t “forget” the trust AT&T put into Apple, the feeling is somewhat mutual. At least, AT&T is likely very willing to have Apple’s cool factor spill over onto them. That means more focus on consumer experience. At least, I hope so…
Quite possibly the funniest thing I have ever read on MDN…”iPhone Shuffle…”
I think Apple is on to something here.
I just need a phone – to make calls.
Most people don’t need an all in one everything device.
I don’t chat, look at maps, e-mail and surf the web all the live long day…. jeez. And as for a camera in a phone, the photos are lousy. Time and place for everything. A good phone with a killer easy to use interface at a good price will kill all the other cell phone mfg’s who have yet to figure out decent ergonomics to phones.
@grognard
You mean the rumor mongers are onto something. Apple hasn’t announced anything.
uh there already is an iphone shuffle. its called service with at&t
How’s this for an iPhone nano:
No internet, no iPod, just a small easy to use cell phone.
Apple could win the totally ignored market of people who want a phone “that’s just a phone.”
@ Cedric Lane,
You are so right, only rumor (this is kinda a rumour site isn’t it?) and this is pure speculation.
But an i-phone nano could follow the same marketing and pricing structure (not same price, just structure) as the successful Ipod models. Maybe the I phone nano would be made available to all Carriers.
The compelling reason why Carriers and consumers would want an Iphone nano is the unique multi-touch interface that renders all other cell phone interfaces obsolete. Verizion and T-mobile et. al. customers wouldn’t necessary have to ditch their contract, just upgrade to a I phone Nano, Carriers would offer discounts or as a come ons to upgrade or extend existing service plans… Apple wins by selling a bazzillion phones, and cell phone carriers keep their Customer base. Again pure speculation, but it might make Samsung and Motorola and Nokia not to happy even if a piece of this is true.
The stealthy part of this speculative scenario is that by offering a ‘every-man’ Iphone lite or nano or whatever, sold by all carriers, Apple, is converting more people to a level of comfort with the new tech interface called ‘multi-touch’ which serves as an entree to Imacs or high end I phones, or ITV …. All which will be sporting the multi-touch interface pretty soon (again speculation).
Dollta,
ROFLMAO! That was great!
It’s amazing How we live in a world where big (HD/Plasma) and small (phones/PDAs) can co exist so peacfully. Oh and I just thought of something how are people with long finger nails gonna cope with the iPhone?
Wheel control would suck.
Why can’t they just remove the video playback and other heavy stuff, but keep touch screen. That way they wouldn’t need so powerful processor.
When you see iPhone capacities double or triple from where they are now, then this will happen. Not before. When the iPhone hits 24GB+ RAM then they will announce this with 4-8GBs. It will follow the same route as the iPod/iPod mini. Apple had it right then and they will use the same strategy. Wait and see. But don’t wait for this “iPhone nano” because you won’t see it for a couple years.
iPod Mini is maybe the next step … 2008
Thanks for the great laff! I needed that! (and I’m still laffing)
To be honest I can’t picture myself dialing a number with a click wheel.
I personally think everyone may be over complicating the matter, all the article stated is that Apple is filling for a multi-functional device with a click-wheel.
Maybe Apple is finally upgrading their remotes, and adding the nano’s click-wheel with possible Wi-Fi or Bluetooth?
“Soon they’ll aso introduce iPhone Shuffle : randomly make and receive calls.
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hahahah!!
Of course they will. It’s a category that needs reinventing and Apple has the brand power. It will be a killer.
LMAO good one dolita lmao
I’d call that leaping to a conclusion.
MW: “hospital” – as in, that’s where you go if you leap too far?
CNBC reporter, Erin Burnett, now giving the “iPhone Nano” claim by JP Morgan’s Kevin Chang creedence this morning on Joe Scarborough’s show. However, I don’t buy it.
First off, Apple would be foolish to submit drawings related to future products to the patent office in ‘literal” form for all to see. Patent drawings are meant to be interpretive; and a tech-savvy company like Apple is smart to try and lead people down false paths while these ideas are being explored.
The timing might seem odd, considering their recent payout to Creative Technology, but Apple could simply be exploring a new 3D selection menu, a la Front Row. I think it makes sense, from a branding point-of-view, to bring Front Row’s menu design to the iPod.
I think Chang is a nimrod for calling this one. I don’t doubt that Apple might explore a smaller, less feature-rich version of the iPhone (Actually, based on the iPhone’s amazing number of “early adopter” sales, I really DO kinda doubt it.) but for all of the money Apple has put into the iPhone’s design and launch, not to mention the huge risk doing so, it makes zero sense to backtrack on the product’s design by launching a smaller version of an iPhone that looks like yesterday’s iPod. The glass and metal design IS the iPhone. It may also be the future design of the iPod…but the scroll-wheel iPod is not (well, shouldn’t be) the “back to the future” design of ANY device carrying the iPhone name.
In other words,
A) iPhones will always look like iPhones
B) iPods of the future might start looking more like iPhones (Apple’s commercial says the iPhone is the best iPod they’ve ever made), yet retain some of the scroll wheel’s conveniences
C) iPhones will not look like yesterday’s scroll wheel iPods
Fools!
It’s a Plug in iPhone adapter for iPod Nano!
Instantly own the low end with a $149 .99 plug-in that’s controlled by the nano!
Brilliant: instant access to the large pre-installed base of nanos.
Wow
The stock is up most likely on this rumor. (AAPL 133.87 +3.54 2.72% @ 10:10AM EDT)
Time to exit your aapl stock positions before the crash.
Seems to me Mr Chang is (maybe inadvertently) spreading some FUD here. MSNBC, which is part-owned by Microsoft, did not hesitate to trumpet the story with a headline stating quite unconditionally “Apple to make cheaper iPhone Nano” or something along those lines
The FUD point: Don’t buy this phone – a cheaper one is on the way.
At any rate, it seems kind of weird that Apple would already be planning to “cheapen” the iPhone when it has barely been launched in the U.S. and not yet launched anywhere else. Why would they kill the market for what seems to be shaping up to be a mega seller?