“Cell phones sporting bigger screens, music, video and Web-surfing capabilities may try to steal some of the spotlight when Apple Inc.’s iPhone debuts next month,” Franklin Paul reports for Reuters.
MacDailyNews Take: Good luck with that.
Paul continues, “‘One of the great advantages of iPhone for us is that it will heat up the music (phone) market,’ said Denny Strigl, chief operating officer at Verizon Communications Inc.”
MacDailyNews Take: Yeah, for AT&T, not Verizon.
Paul continues, “‘We were one of the first to get into the music business, one-and-a-half years ago, and it has been very difficult to get traction,’ Strigl said, adding that Verizon will launch new multimedia phones to take on the iPhone.”
Paul reports, “At $500 to $600, the iPhone’s price tag has been called spectacularly high, possibly opening the door for handset makers with similar models. Still Apple, whose iPod music device and iTunes service dominate the market, expects to sell 10 million of the phones in 2008.”
MacDailyNews Take: Who’s calling iPhone’s price “spectacularly high?” iPhone’s competitors, that’s who. And Apple’s stated goal is 10 million iPhones by end of 2008 – starting late June 2007 – not 10 million iPhones “in” 2008. Let’s not move the goal posts on Apple via inaccurate reporting.
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The competitors can try to ride the Apple tidal wave (more like tsunami) but they are going to get wiped out and left for chum to feed the sharks.
“..A Daily Reader who has yet to post….”
So what kept you from posting ?
Could it be that Franklin Paul is spectacularly high?
Denial.
Verizon on the horizon with Vista. Ha.
now on Amazon tehy pay you 25 dolars to take the BLackJack with 2 year contract.
Not to mention all smartphones are almost free.
Somebody is scared of Cupertino
“So what kept you from posting ?”
It’s probably a traumatic post stress disorder.
It’s gonna be like the iPod story all over again. Hold on your AAPL if you have some; if not, get some!
AAPL is over 110 and climbing. Good times.
Funny how these other handset makers think they’re even in the same DEVICE CATEGORY as the iPhone!
Clever ron!
They (the competition) can bring out new ‘smart phones’, but they’re going to have to think of some good original ideas, and quickly! They can’t use any of the iPhone features as they’re all well protected by patents.
Moreover, what are they going to use for an OS? The only ‘mature’ OS for hand-held computers (which is what the iPhone is) is OS X and they’re not going to get their grubby mits on that.
There are plenty of smartphones in the $500-1000 range. The iPhone will be a bargain, especially if AT&T subsidizes it.
The difference is OS X on the device. The competitors don’t have that going for them.
It is quite expensive at first glance but for what you’re getting it isn’t so bad tbh. Its a super device I must admit and I really want one. Time to start saving I suppose.
Sweet.
Verizon lost out. iPhone will sppeed things up for nokia, erikkson, and device manufacturors, but services… AT&T is the one to switch too, Verizon lost out.
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Cingular is currently offering a “smart” p[hone maunfactured by HTC, the H700, that costs the customer $499 AFTER SUBSIDY. There are other phones on the market that cost just as much, if not more. All references to the iPhones $499 and $599 price as being to high/expensive are based on ignorance, or attempts at FUD.
My personal research shows Apple will sell 6,400,000 during calendar 2007, and 20,000,000 during calendar 2008. THAT is the fear of the competition. Twenty million units represents 25% of the “smart” phone market, making the iPhone #2 only to Nokia, and ahead of MSFT’s WinMobile OS in marketshare.
Well… Nokia N95 IS iPhones real competitor, but it is more expensive than iPhone.
I love competition. Now all of these other mobile phones are suddenly able to do a lot more than before. Amazing! We’ve been hearing that mobile phones in Asia and Europe have a lot more features than here in the States. I guess that the iPhone was the “kick in the butt” that these phone makers needed to start offering more for the USA. It’s also incentive for these businesses like Verizon and AT&T to support those features better.
I bet they sell a million the first month.
iPhone Rules!
I will order two.
Maybe I’m just the shy silent type or maybe I was waiting till I had something significant to say. But, why let THAT stop me on this, of all forums (joke).
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I think iPhones will sell out on the first day! And what message would that send to the phone industry? That people would rather pay $500 and sign a 2 year contract instead of getting a subsidized phone for free? If anything, the iPhone will dramatically illustrate people frustration with difficult to use, current generation of cell phones.
Perhaps I don’t post because I would get reamed from every angle by other readers. Or I’m scared that I will make a typo and be ridiculed by every other poster. Or perhaps I don’t post because its more fun to watch other people get reamed and ridiculed for no reason. Or its just fun to be anonymous…
I laugh every time I hear about competitors coming out with new phones to compete with Apple’s iPhone.
Competitors have tried and failed for 6 years to make an “iPod killer,” and that’s a much simpler device to copy. What hair brain analyst thinks competitors like Verizon can wave their right hand and come up with something that competes with an iPhone?
> And Apple’s stated goal is 10 million iPhones by end of 2008 – starting late June 2007 – not 10 million iPhones “in” 2008.
You’re wrong about that one MDN. At the keynote, Steve Jobs said the goal was 10 million units in 2008, “our first full year in the market.” Just play the last 2.5 minutes of the MacWorld 2007 keynote (available as a podcast in iTunes) to hear it.
@Ken1w
I’m pretty sure you’re wrong on this one. He said the goal is to sell 10 million phones by the end of 2008.
Apple might even sell 10M iPhones in 2008. I just hope they’ll release an iPhone nano for those who don’t want their phone to be all that high tech, just easy to use and reliable.
iPhone nano – 2GB/$299 – 4GB/$399
> I’m pretty sure you’re wrong on this one. He said the goal is to sell 10 million phones by the end of 2008.
I can’t be wrong about it when I just listened to the keynote. I was pretty sure he said “during the first full year” so I played it again, and that’s what he said. 1% market share IN 2008, which is 10 million units during the first full year on the market.
The key will be if Apple can sell this phone to non-Apple users, not just the Mac faithful. The Cnet “live” show told a caller to not buy the first gen iPhone, wait and see what happens. Then the caller said he wasn’t a Mac guy and they totally dismissed the thought, “oh, well, if you don’t have a Mac, don’t get one” (along those lines). Can we get more switchers with the iPhone?
> The key will be if Apple can sell this phone to non-Apple users, not just the Mac faithful.
Obviously, that’s important. But Apple already sells most iPods to Windows PC users. The customer being a Mac or PC user won’t even be an issue. It appears that the general public is already smarter than that “expert” on Cnet.
It will all rest on how good the iphone is and how well apple and cingular handle it. If the quailty is not thier and cingular contracts are to high well you be the judge.
“One of the great advantages of iPhone for us is that it will heat up the music (phone) market,’ said Denny Strigl, chief operating officer at Verizon Communications Inc.”
Yeah, riiiiight. I don’t think it’s going to work that way for Apple/AT&T competitors.
IMHO, I doubt the music market for phones is going to heat up until the phone companies (and yes, I’m mainly talking about my provider, Verizon) do several things.
1) Stop gouging customers. Charge iTunes competitive rates of at least 99¢ per song.
2) Allow customers to upload music/ringtones directly to their phones from their computers without requiring they be bought from your music store, or thru the phone via your store, and while we’re at it, no proprietary formats or DRM, please.
3) Allow customers to download/upload photos to their computers, sync addresses, etc., etc., regardless of platform/OS, and without going thru your phone service and being charged for every little thing.
Stop with the nickle and dime stuff already.
If the Quality is not there, also Cingular is no longer Cingular but rather AT&T/Cingular if at all.
As for contracts… Only a fool with a gold laying goose would kill the goose to get at the eggs.
<“‘We were one of the first to get into the music business, one-and-a-half years ago, and it has been very difficult to get traction,’ Strigl said>
Could that partly be because you WEREN’T one of the first to get into the music business, dipshit?