“So far, Transit has been using Vista Business full-time for a fortnight. And so far, we’ve found nothing that works better than in Windows XP, dozens of things that are annoyingly different without being a functional improvement, and several things that work at best intermittently and at worst not at all. On the whole, we wish we’d never moved,” Angus Kidman reports for iTWire.
MacDailyNews Take: We know something that works far better than Windows XP: Apple’s Mac OS X. You shouldn’t have moved, you should’ve switched.
Kidman reports, “We should point out at the start that we migrated to Windows Vista under supposedly optimal circumstances. We waited for a few weeks before even thinking about it, so that we’d avoid any early release showstopper bugs. We purchased a machine from a prominent manufacturer (Lenovo) with Vista pre-installed, so we could avoid the upgrade nightmares that have plagued everyone else we know who’s been forced to shift to Vista… And we’ve deliberately kept the installed software on the machine to a minimum, to minimise the chance of an incompatible application blowout.”
Kidman reports, “For starters, it’s hideously slow — notably slower than our previous machine, despite the fact that the new model has twice as much memory and a much faster processor… The lack of anything approaching basic network functionality is our biggest complaint… We’ll give credit to Microsoft support for trying hard, but if you can’t get basic IP working in 2007, something pretty fundamental is going wrong.”
Kidman reports, “Outside of the basic functionality issues, there are dozens of minor changes that haven’t done anything to improve our productivity… We could go on — about the stupid interface in Windows Explorer, the non-existent search functionality, the arbitrary changes to menu names, even the horrible font choices. But the bottom line is that if we had shares in Microsoft, we’d be demanding changes more extensive than those that came between XP and SP2 to give this dog of a product any chance in the marketplace.”
Full article here.
MacDailyNews Take: Rack up yet another stellar Windows Vista review. Microsoft should be ashamed, but they won’t be; instead, they’ll just pump up the ad budget for their latest mess and spend the next 5+ years trying to patch it.
[Thanks to MacDailyNews Reader “Island Girl” for the heads up.]
Vista = The best ad for Mac OS X!
Peace.
The “Wow” starts when?
That’s a pretty damning article. My only regret is that it is too short; I would have enjoyed reading a good deal more of the same.
YOU SUPPPOSED TO SUFFER AT WORK!
Happy workers are not productive workers, they cry and want this and that!
Well you just have to like VISTA because that’s what workers deserve.
Lousy peons!!
Mullalahahaha!!
Sincerly B. Gates.
Stephen:
The “Wow” starts on June 11th.
so we could avoid the upgrade nightmares that have plagued everyone else we know who’s been forced to shift to Vista
What kind of idiot would even think about upgrading with that glowing recommendation? Keep these morons away from Macs.
It totally amazes me who these windows users….uh sufferers….put up with MS windows junk. And to think folks who put up with the obvious problems with windows will be the first to dis the Mac with no proof of Mac problems. Some folks I talk to still think the same old story for cryin’ out loud…..1. No software for Mac Myth…..2. Mac has to little Market Share and MS has a huge Market Share….3. Macs are good for graphics only……4. and the big one (feel like Lettermen)… No games for the Mac.
Folks who use their computers with the feeling of being inseprable from MS and anti-Mac mind-set deserve the negative computing expreience they get.
Island Girl gets the “heads up” ?
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Somewhere in that line is a joke, but I’m not going to go there
@FTMF
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Look in the mirror dude. You’ll see the joke.
I can hear the chairs flying again.
Just a different kind of “wow” – said in a whole different tone of voice.
Vista isn’t that bad…
It’s just not that interesting, just Windows XP 1.5
My Nanna is getting my Grandad a laptop for his Birthday & wants me to help her. I (of course) suggested a Macbook, but she says they are to expensive & doesn’t want to spend more than £400. I can understand that. I explained getting a Mac will be cheaper in the long term, but no lol.
I can’t wait for them to keep asking me how to use Vista & fix something when they don’t know what has gone wrong (assuming anything does go wrong!)
Microsoft should definitely change the Vista slogan to “The Bow Wow starts now.” No offense to dogs of the canine variety everywhere.
Happy workers are not productive workers, they cry and want this and that!
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Yeah. I always cry when I’m happy.
Hilarious joke by the way.
about the stupid interface in Windows Explorer, the non-existent search functionality
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I used Vista about a week after it came out.. one of my classmates got a brand new Dell and .. as the Mac user, I was showing him all the stuff that was cool in Vista.. I saw the search bar and I was showing him how easy it was.. to.. use..
Sorry, they had a couple years to oogle Tiger and they still got it wrong. It’s not fast enough and it doesn’t give you what you want to see. A joke. Still feels like work
Will anybody ever be able to measure the full horror of Windows ? (shudder)
WOWzers!!!!
“Folks who use their computers with the feeling of being inseprable from MS and anti-Mac mind-set deserve the negative computing expreience they get.”
Amen brother!
Let them live in hell! They deserve it for their pathetic ignorance alone.
Vista, a stinking carcass for your PC casket.
The “wow” started a long, long time ago…
http://www.roughlydrafted.com/RD/Q4.06/4E2A8848-5738-45B1-A659-AD7473899D7D.html
Cambell’s Selects Chicken w/ Egg Noodle Soup
Smell the savory broth…
Taste tender white meat chicken…
It’s irresistable.
Mhhhmmmm
Why settle when you can select?
> something pretty fundamental is going wrong.
Windows is fundamentally flawed. That about sums it up. It’s not going to be fixed with the first service pack. THIS is what Microsoft and Windows users are going to have to live with for the next five years.
“I can’t wait for them to keep asking me how to use Vista & fix something when they don’t know what has gone wrong (assuming anything does go wrong!)”
I second that. My friend went with a pee see because of price, two days later he needs help with his “people pc” account. lol
MDN “magic word” simply: as in Macintosh is simply irresistible.
@hmm
Is it even possible to get a laptop fast enough for Vista for £400? Maybe find someone still selling XP?
Better a second hand iBook
or go Linux
http://www.linuxemporium.co.uk/products/laptops/
Well with a quality brand of PC like Lenovo, I can’t imagine why Vista isn’t working properly. It’s not like Lenovo is a bottom-of-the-barrel chinese slave labor box assembler…oh wait.
I have a brand new Sony Vaio with Vista (it’s for work) and while it is dog slow at file operations (copy, paste…especially over a network), it at least works semi-properly and only crashes like once a week. I’ve heard nothing but horror from people who have bought Lenovo PCs with Vista, since Lenovo didn’t do shit to make their drivers or utilities compatible with Vista before releasing PCs with Vista installed. But what the fuck are people thinking when they buy a new PC from Lenovo? That’s like buying an eMachine and being surprised when it’s shitty.
In a related story Microsoft announced today the debut of
HyperSonic Chair 1.0. Said to be authored by Steve Ballmer himself the new game creates virtual chairs on screen and launches them at hypersonic speed. Hapless Microsoft employees are the targets in the game. It’s a first person shooter in a sense except in the interface there is large pink object that flaps in front of the viewer during game play, obscuring the field of vision.
In a nod to personal hygiene, enormous sweat balls also drop in front of the viewer making chair aiming more difficult. Various chairs are available from a simple folding chair all the way up to
a sofa sleeper. Available for XBox 360 June 1st.
I just installed Visat on my MBP via Parallels.
What a load of crap.
Will anybody ever be able to measure the full horror of Windows ? (shudder)
Why bother?
When some horrors are bad enough, you either:
1. Pack up, abandon the area, and move to someplace better. Or:
2. Bulldoze the wreckage and start completely over.
One is in users’ hands, the other in Microsoft’s. Wonder which will happen first…
I can’t believe the best ad campaign M$ could come up with is “Wow”. As in, wow, I can’t believe I paid money for this.
The ‘Wow’ got bored after a week and went home.
FTMF: Well done. It should have been heads down.
Whoever is responsible for this company switching to Vista this soon should have the crap kicked out of them. It amazes me that anyone would jeopardize a business like this. They deserve to suffer for their incompetence.
Installing Vista in 2 minutes:
<http://youtube.com/watch?v=FVbf9tOGwno>
In 1992 I had the opportunity to test Unix System Labs new “Destiny” release – a graphic implementation of System V R 4.2 – intended for ordinary PCs. Quite nice, with lots of potential. At the same time, I was testing the very first release of NT, dubbed 3.1. What a piece of crap! Slow, unstable, limited functionality. Sorta’ like today’s Vista.
Yet a colleague in another division of the organization told me his group was making a long-term committment to NT – getting rid of their Macs and Suns at the same time. That made NO sense to me! But they were looking “down the road”, based on promises and road maps. Our organization today, sadly, is already making plans for its migration to Vista. I expect to be walking out the door before then. It’ll be their problem.
Windows=GARBAGE.
‘Nuff said!
TMF: You wish.
A totally consistent product…
Well, that was easy:
iBook G4 with Applecare, extra ram, extra new battery and Airport – £450
Islandgirl, I just want world peace.
Well to be honest I have vista on a sony VAIO and it works fine and I also have a mac book. Vista really doesent give me any problems but the computer is work issued, and the mac is personal. But pc’s are the computer in many professions that you have to have. No matter how great my apple is( and its great) apple just won’t be able to catch that monster microsoft for a long time because in the work place it about being able to be efficent and you cant be with a mac if everyone else has a PC running VISTA. IT’s reality and it sucks.
The “Wow” started on the release day of Vista. People were truly impressed that so many years of development came up with so little.
MDN word “distance” – as in, I distance myself from Microtrash.
Jakesaturn,
I’m the only one in my office with a Mac and I’m quite productive. Mind you I’m the only grapgic artist in the place while everyone else does mundane officey work, (spreadsheets, word stuff etc) As long as i produce files they can read they’re happy. Photoshop (common jpg’s) Flash (swf’s) Video (.mov, divx, avi etc…) File formats are quite compatable between platforms these days. well except for wmv9? Oh and Publisher files, hate those.
That should’ve been ‘graphic’ artist obviously
Vista isn’t that bad…
Yes, yes it is. Not only is it bad, it is actually a step back from XP. Congratulations, Microsoft.
I love the shwooshing sound of flying chairs in the morning. It sounds like… victory! (And desperation on MS’s part.)
After installing Vista my old G3 iMac feels snappier…than the good old Lenovo.
If Microsoft was a car company they would add lead to all the hollow car parts to increase the stability and fill the tires with water for extra safety. Of course the performance would go down but you can always compensate by buying a bigger engine. Doesn’t that smell like a plot to increase gasoline, engine, tires etc. sales and get kickbacks in return.
Vista reminds me of Soviet tractor factory. To meet the yearly production quota they added lead in the tractors frame. The end result was that the tractors started getting stuck on the muddy fields and work didn’t get done.
Maybe that’s what Microsoft is doing, slowing everybody down so they can catch up. Next step is to slow Linux guys down, then Apple. Aaah, the crazy world of people with warped minds…
I can testify to the dog-slowness of Vista.
My wife has a brand new HP laptop from work, with Vista Business pre-installed. It is way slower than her old Acer with XP Pro. Last night she was trying to do some work and asked me if I thought she had a virus as it it was taking the machine so long to do anything.
Magic word: ‘made’ as in ‘Microsoft made a huge mistake releasing this piece of junk’
“And we’ve deliberately kept the installed software on the machine to a minimum, to minimise the chance of an incompatible application blowout.”
Hehehe, I have over 200 apps on my iMac. This isn’t even funny anymore. Imagine buying a puter, and the sales jerk tells you, ‘Don’t install anything but the bare minimum of applications!’
System 6.0.9 had no problems with the number of apps installed, 17 years ago!
YoYo, how did you get Vista to run on an old G3 ‘non intel’ mac. Are you serious?
@Andrew…he did not say On the G3
TMF and Island girl up in a tree
K-i-s-s-i-n-g
First came love then came marriage
Then came a little TMF in a baby carriage
n’yuk
n’nuk
After installing Vista on any PC the relative computing speeds of the other surrounding computers seem to accelerate. This is called the Law of ….
Actually, I meant no offense to Island Girl. Just stupid, pointless humor as usual.
“Wow”, I didn’t even know Vista was dog slow and I already hated it. A friend of mine told me he “solved” the incompatibility problem Vista has with most XP apps by re-installing XP the very same day he installed Vista on his PC. He didn’t even tell it was dog slow.
Anyways, I’m glad to know the version of Windows installed via BootCamp is still the best and most used…
And before you ask, XP is installed solely for the purpose of gaming. The 20″ iMac Core2Duo being the first computer I ever bought, I have tons of PC game. Rebuying that collection in Mac versions, however antiquated it may be by now, simply is more expensive then buying a copy of XP.
MDN magic word: room. As in, on a Mac, there’s even room for crappy old Windows. You quit using it after about a week, though…