“Canadian consumers can’t buy TV shows and movies through iTunes yet. But that’s no reason Apple dealers shouldn’t be enthusiastic about offering Apple TV to their customers, according to a member of the Apple Independent Retailers Council,” Kathleen Sibley reports for IT Business.
Sibley reports, “Ron Paley, also president of authorized Apple reseller Carbon Computing in Toronto, said the $349 (Canadian) device has been flying off the shelves.”
“We’re selling them as fast as we get them and it will keep growing in popularity,” says Paley,” Sibley reports.
Sibley reports, “Apple TV, a 20×20-centimetre box, works by wirelessly syncing to an iTunes library and connects to a widescreen TV via an HDMI port or component video and audio parts. It also comes with a built-in 40 GB hard drive, allowing you to stream and store any content from an iTunes library, including music and podcasts along with TV shows, video clips and movies.”
Sibley reports, “The fact that Canadians can’t buy iTunes content for TV yet is irrelevant, says Paley. ‘A lot of people have content on their Macs and PCs to begin with and you can put other content into iTunes,’ says Paley. ‘Is it as useful as it will be in a month’s time? No, but it will be.'”
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“Toronto Apple dealer says Apple TV ‘flying off the shelves’”
Call a carpenter?
First: the font situation on this redesign needs some immediate help!
I would wager many tech savy Canadians have found ways to purchase content from the US store. It doesn’t seem like it would be that difficult. Any of our Canadian readers like to elaborate?
Overpriced and underpowered. Kind of like my battery-powered friend, who I call \’Mr. Blue\’.
Let the stupid Canadians be the early adopters on this one.
Is this the first report of TV selling well, or have I missed something?
This is bullshit. Apple TV’s aren’t flying off the shelves ANYWHERE, especially in Canada. That’s why Apple has specifically asked Amazon.com to NOT list the sales ranking of their Apple TV’s on Amazon.com’s website. Go ahead — check it out for yourself. Go to amazon.com and take a look for yourself that there is no sales ranking information available for the AppleTV. Amazon.com agreed to do this because of their close relationship with Apple, since Apple pays the subsidies on the Mac rebates that are always going on on Amazon.com. Apple does this to keep their Mac products in the Top 10 lists on Amazon’s site. Anyways, AppleTV is a completely abysmal failure.
Toby,
You’ve missed something.
What’s important about this story is that they’re selling fast in Canada, where you can’t yet buy TV shows and movies through iTunes. That bodes well for the rest of the world, especially places where you can.
iTunes probably isn’t as popular here as in the U.S. because P2P downloading of songs isn’t illegal. That does not extend to TV shows, so iTunes use might spike when programs can be downloaded.
I don’t use iTunes because there are no songs there I can’t download free off the net, and because I use a Mac, I fear no evil from malware.
Thanks for setting us straight. I’m sure you know more than the people actually selling the product.
Those kooky Canadians…..
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I’m in Canada and no it’s not that easy because you need a U.S. based credit card. And I don’t know how i’d go about obtaining one. If i’m correct, Steve said there would be movies for sale in canada by next year. He said this last year. And there still aren’t any movies on the TV. Also the rights in canada are hard to understand because we do have some original programming, the bulk comes from the united states. There are 3 Major cross country networks here and 2 of them buy the rights for specific shows in canada. Which means that CTV here broadcasts CSI, and Global broadcasts How I met your Mother, also a CBS show. It’s this problem that has caused the stall. CTV purchased the rights to The West Wing for season 7, however they didn’t boardcast it at the same time as the US. which normally occurs. They broadcast it in the summer. So i’ll be happy once TV shows get to the itunes store, but i’m not holding my breath.
I wasn’t being facetious. No Apple reseller anywhere, and especially in a business publication, would say anything about Mac users not buying from iTunes because they could get it for nothing with LimeWire or Aqlite or any other app considered to be Satan’s spawn in the States.
Well, MacBill, here’s Ron Paley’s e-mail address. I’m sure you’ll want to call him a liar. So, put up or shut up and let us know how that goes.
carbon@carbonation.com
Re: “Sibley reports, ‘Ron Paley, also president of authorized Apple reseller Carbon Computing in Toronto, said the $349 (Canadian) device has been flying off the shelves.'”
I think it’s a misnomer to call the device AppleTV, as most of the stuff I would want to get from my Mac to my TV is actually my 13,000 photos. I guess iTunesTV was just too big a mouthful.
It’s the same with the iPhone, it really should be called the iDevice, as it’s more than just a phone.
@CindyLooHoo
Put a liplock on my ‘stupid’ Canadian lovemuscle….
Are you so ugly you need a toy?
I work for a reseller in Vancouver. The AppleTV is popular. almost as popular as the Extreme Base Station.
My last comment: “‘Is it as useful as it will be in a month’s time? No, but it will be.'”
Do these sentences actually mean anything but to repeat itself twice?
BTW,
The new font size and spacing sucks total ass. I feel like we’re in elementary school or something.
I’ve had a bank account for years in Helena, Mont., but even with a a U.S. bank-issued credit card, I wouldn’t be able to download from the U.S. iTunes site, because I don’t have a U.S. mailing address. So I’d have to rent a mailbox just to download an iTunes song, or now a TV show.
It wouldn’t be worth the hassle. P2P is free and TV is hardly worth watching, anyway.
I’m at the University of British Columbia. The University Bookstore received a shipment of about 30 Apple TVs about a week ago. They have about 6 left.
I’ve bought 1 and may buy a second. It works great and, using Handbrake @ 2000 – 2500 kbps, it produces DVD quality output. Even at 1000 kbps it is still decent. This is on a 42″ widescreen TV.
Hard disk size is not an issue since it streams flawlessly! I DO have the new AirPort Extreme base station.
1. Stupid Canadians? Right. You’re the ones who voted in a man for who English is a second language. Twice A preschooler is more articulate. You are ruled by the dumb.
2. I’m waiting on the AppleTV until it gets a bigger HD. 40GB just doesn’t cut it.
I don’t understand why Apple has paid so little attention to how the devices are set up in their stores – some have a picture that looks freakin’ awesome and others make you wonder what is wrong with it.
@Mike Jasic
Not sure why you would want a bigger HD. I stream my video from my external HD hooked up to my computer. It’s set to shut down and start up at a certain time. Works flawlessly. All of my photo (4k +) are on the AppleTV, the rest of the content streams.
If one more Canadian reiterates the nonsense that p2p file-sharing is legal here, I’m going to export them to the US. Uploading has always been illegal, but the downloading fell through a loophole in our laws until the past year, and then they closed it. p2p is illegal and wrong. Simple.
MacBill why all the negativity and angst?
I’ve personally been to Carbon recently, and they in fact said they were sold out.
Give your head a shake, dude.
HD size is relatively unimportant if you are streaming the media from a central Mac. I use a 750 GB HD driving a MacMini as my media center. The mini is connected to the hub on the AirPort Extreme. There is NO need to put you music or movies on the Apple TV HD itself. Photos do need to go on to the Apple TV.
I suspect that the HD is really there for future DRM enabled movie rentals from the iTunes Store.
As a previous poster noted, Handbrake can convert virtually all DVDs (8 GB) into DVD quality movies (1.5-2.5 GB) compatible with iTunes. These movies stream just fine….
Note that at this high quality, these movies will not transfer to your iPOD so they have to be separately encoded for the iPOD.
Podcasts are available in CA just as they are in the state – I believe – some Canook verify this please (Mom’s side is from Edmonton).
Suffice to say, AppleTV is an elegant way to start watching original – and free – content via Podcasts, and this market will surely grow.
Major studio’s must be really scared about independants, podcasts, and youtube…
Yes Podcasts are the same here in Canada as in the US. TV and movies though aren’t. I understand the TV show issue as reasoned in a post above, but not movies. It seems like a no-brainer unless distribution rights in Canada is held by a third party.
I think it’s been selling well here in Canada. Having no content from iTunes is just fine by me. It’s a great way to stream all my music, DVD’s and everything else to my home theater set up while having a display to pick my songs, movies etc via the remote. Actually very handy. Why wouldn’t you want one of these? Also, to all of you who say Canadians are stupid, where does this come from? I’d like know what that’s based on. Please, be a little less ignorant about your neigbours to the north and in return, we’ll stop thinking you’re all rednecks who misunderstand democracy.
Bullshit!
Amazon doesn’t have a salesrank on Apple TV because its actually being sold by target, via Amazon.
Salesranks are only for items directly sold by Amazon.
Jackass.
Now let’s be honest. If you think Bush is stupid because of the way he talks (take a class in Texan, eh?), you’re looking at the surface. By that same standard, Steven Hawkings is just another dribbling moron. Fortunately, most people have learned to judge a man by the content of his character. After all, that’s why you Canadians elected Stephen Harper, who is every bit as conservative as Bush — if not more so.
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@Mike Jasic
1. Stupid Canadians? Right. You’re the ones who voted in a man for who English is a second language. Twice A preschooler is more articulate.
If you’re going to insult someone’s language skills, you might want to proofread your post first.
I’m always amazed at the exchanges between US and Canadian citizens in this and other forums.
As a US citizen who is a “permanent resident” of Canada (5+ years) I can truthfully say both parties tend to think negatively towards each other – typically for no real valid reason.
For some reason Americans tend to think of Canadians as backwards and technologically and politically impaired.
On the other hand, Canadians are all too willing to think the worst about Americans. Unfortunately, this negativism has become even more pronounced over the last 6 years.
Frankly, having lived and worked in both countries, I can tell you there are very minimal differences. These differences are on the level of: 1) “Tim Hortons” versus “Dunkin Donuts”; 2) the “NFL” versus the “NHL”; and 3) Serving in “Iraq AND Afganistan” vesus just “Afganistan”.
Overpriced and underpowered. Kind of like my battery-powered friend, who I call \’Mr. Blue\’.
Let the stupid Canadians be the early adopters on this one.
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As a Canadian, all I have to say is: we all know what the Public Education situation is like in the US. Don’t even get me started. Work on getting that ‘Intelligent Design’ crowd down before you start talking about the intelligence level of other developed countries.
Now let’s be honest. If you think Bush is stupid because of the way he talks (take a class in Texan, eh?), you’re looking at the surface. By that same standard, Steven Hawkings is just another dribbling moron
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Okay. A Republican just compared George Bush to Stephen Hawking(sp). Dear God.
Are we done here? Canadians win on brains. As usual.
@An American living in Canada
Well said. But it is damn hard not to drop my intelligence to the level of that illiterate person who thinks being able to speak two languages is somehow worse than speaking one. Stupidity and bigotry knows no bounds.
@Bustingtheskullofidiots
Unfortunately we did vote in Harper who is a conservative like Bush. However, it is working against him (his party is not increasing in the polls). The more body bags that come home from Afghanistan themore it guarantees that he will be ousted in the next election. I guess this is how we differ with the USA as Canadians won’t tolerate this.
@MacBill:
I just came back from a dealerthat distributes Apple products (CompuSmart), and they were sold out. The salesperson told me they sell out within a week of receiving them.
I’m all for being sceptical about what you read, but to call a person a liar, I usually do some research first.
Cite? Or shaddup.
“”Toronto Apple dealer says Apple TV ‘flying off the shelves’”
Call a carpenter?”
No, call Ghost-Busters….
Coolfactor is a paid astroturfer. Not by Microsoft but by The Labels.
A Law that includes canceling downloading has been drawn up but not yet passed. It probably won’t be passed no matter how much cash The Labels throw at the law makers because we have a minority government that couldn’t pass water after a chug-a-lug contest.
TV – Rip, sync and watch.
Apple TV works great with HandBrake – it’s smokin! I just converted a couple of Video_TS folders and the quality is excellent on my 4 year old Sony Vega with component inputs. No more shufflin scratched DVD’s.
I’ll probaly install the 160 GB hard drive.
Hope you’re right. If those jerks pass it — but it’s long been sitting dormant — you can bet they won’t drop the blank-media “levy.” That tax will contine to pour into the labels’ pockets.
@Canadian
Perhaps not stupid. But, in your case, stupidly boastful. If you must steal, then have the sense to keep quiet about it.
@bustingtheskullsof idiots
Bush’s accent is not the problem…
I was in a Perth (Aus) Apple dealer and he had sold out his first shipment of 30 TV very quickly.
Just “great”! (MDN word).
It isn’t theft, you moron. Read before you open your frigging mouth and sound off on something you know nothing about. We pay a tax on every blank recording medium we purchase to cover royalties. The next time you call someone a thief, think twice then STFU.
Carbon Computing, the dealer quoted, is a first class reseller.
I’ve got no reason to doubt what they have to say. They’ve been supporting the Mac long before the iPod, and are one of the best retail stores Apple has, and the first choice of many Advertising and other businesses who are longtime Mac users.
Carbon is much better than the Apple corporate stores that
have opened in Toronto in the last year or so.
They shouldn’t be so happy about this unadvertised feature. I, for one, don’t want an electronic device that flies off a shelf. I have lots of nice things in my living room.