10layers.com asks, “We are not talking about an Arthur C. Clark space odyssey, but could it be that Apple has a shot at outgrowing Microsoft within the next 5 years?”
“Both Microsoft and Apple have seen healthy revenue growth in the last 5 years. Microsoft’s revenues have grown approximately 60% from just under $30B in 2002 to over $44B in 2006. However, while Microsoft has grown linearly for this period, Apple has accelerated with revenues of just under $6B in 2002 growing to just under $21B in 2006. An impressive 250% revenue growth! In other words, Apple has been growing much faster than Microsoft,” 10layers writes.
10layers displays an extrapolation graph that shows “Apple could catch up with Microsoft as early as 2010 or 2011, given the current growth rates,” 10layers writes. “Of course, an extrapolation is just an attempt at predicting the future based on the past. Caveat emptor etc. It is clear however, that it is likely that Apple will give Microsoft a run for their money.”
Full article with graphs here.
[Thanks to MacDailyNews Reader “LinuxGuy and Mac Prodigal Son” for the heads up.]
Related article:
Apple CEO Steve Jobs’ ultimate goal: ‘to take back the computer business from Microsoft’ – June 16, 2005
It will NOT take that long, Apple is only warming up!
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Mmmmm, now that would be sweet indeed!
I agree. When Apple gains marketshare it is away from Microsoft.
http://www.roughlydrafted.com/RD/RDM.Tech.Q1.07/50755EA6-A759-42FD-84ED-EBB5A060AF16.html
by the end of next year it will be all over for microsoft. It has already begun
Dave, I’m scared.
If MS pancakes with it’s release of Vista then we will see chunks of market share, If not then Leopard if going to have to fight for every inch.
Microsoft sold more X-Boxes last year than Apple sold Macintosh computers, domestic & global.
Poppy,
While I agree that Microsoft’s decline has begun, it’s going to take far more than a year. My prediction is MS losing about 30% of their market share over the next five years. The Mac will pick up most of the desktop/laptop business, and the server business will go to Linux and Solaris.
-jcr
And Apple made a profit on those computers unlike MS on those Xboxes.
This comparison is stupid. Microsoft is primarily a software company, whereas Apple derives the vast majority of its revenue from hardware (computers + consumer electronics).
If and when the product mixes and revenue sources of the two companies start becoming comparable, then (and only then) would such comparisons be meaningful.
Let’s not get carried away folks. For this dream to come true 3 things need to happen:
1. Apple has to stay at the top of its game for the next 10yrs. Possible but there is a limit to how many rabbits Steve & Co can pull out of their hat. 2. M$ has to totally blow the battle for the digital living room. Yeah Ballmer is the Coyote to Apple’s Roadrunner but they won’t keep screwing up this badly and consistantly. And there is a chance their successor to Vista might actually be a 21st century OS. 3. Apple has to make some inroads into the business market.
“Microsoft sold more X-Boxes last year than Apple sold Macintosh computers, domestic & global.”
Yeah right! Don’t forget : the more Xboxes they sell the poorer they get…
Microsoft sold more X-Boxes last year than Apple sold Macintosh computers, domestic & global
Perspective
Yes, if only sales of money-losing Xboxs would spike, Apple might be able to catch them by 2009!
Let’s see. Last quarter our profit was $1 billion. Microsoft’s was $2 billion.
I don’t see a problem with matching them for profitability, without having to increase gross revenues to match.
Ballmer is a bozo.
S.
Even though I’m an Apple fan, this straight-line projection is dumb and the author doesn’t even do a superficial analysis. If we went back to the mid-90s, a straight-line projection would’ve put the then beleaguered Apple in bankruptcy.
Both companies face threats to their core businesses. The question is how well will each execute to triumph over these threats, and/or create businesses in new market space.
Windows, Office, and Mac OS face threats from the Web, with Windows more so because it has greater market share. Vista, Live, and MSN don’t look like good answers yet, altho MS business products seem to be evolving faster enough to fend off the threat on the business side. .Mac has so far been poor, though iTunes has been dominant and expanding. We’ll know soon what’s coming in Leopard.
Windows faces a serious threat from malware (from which the Mac OS is currently benefiting). Again, Vista doesn’t seem to be the answer.
The iPod faces growth barriers from cheap (subsidized) music phones in other parts of the world. The iPhone is the beginning of an answer but it has yet to ship.
So yes, Apple may earn more by 2010 but the odds of the revenue chart looking like his is just about nil.
I love the chair graphic. As an Apple fan and a stockholder, hope it does come true.
Peace.
Far more interesting is that today analyst Charlie Wolf at Needham & Company reiterated his Buy rating on AAPL, and increased his price target from $115 up to $135.
This is based on iPhone revenues, which Wolf expects to be low at first due to the high selling price, but expects that selling price to fall ~20% year-on-year as component prices drop and carrier subsidies increase.
AAPL is trading at $86.06 in pre-market currently, up $0.68 from yesterday’s close.
Maybe Apple could offer the equivalent of Microsoft certification at a greatly reduced or subsidized price.
IT guys take this certification because it is all but required for them to get gigs at large corporations and institutions.
But, my guess is that if Apple makes certification on OS X server courses easy to register for and cheap to take, some IT people would take the training to differentiate themselves in the job market. More exposure of professional IT guys to OSX may result in more corporate sales, and an increase of that market.
MoMo Trader, isn’t it funny how Microsoft is a software Co. That makes terrible software. Thak god the legions of Walmart shopping America and job fearing IT guy’s wont ever experience great Software form a “HardWare” Co.
MoMo Trader,
The comparison is quite justified.
Both companies produce software and hardware in the computer/electronics industry.
But, more importantly, both companies have been SEEN as traditional rivals, so it’s quite natural to compare them – and indeed they have always been compared.
To top it all, the USERS of both companies’ respective products are often rivals – particularly those on Apple’s side, who are consistently and openly hostile to MS, or haven’t you noticed?
marko, you’re thinking as a product consumer rather than a financial analyst.
Sure, as product consumers, it is apparent that Microsoft software quality is well behind Apple’s.
But look at the revenue that Apple makes from software: it’s a teeny tiny percentage of Apple’s hardware revenue.
Similarly, Microsoft makes hardware products too (computer mice, Xbox, etc), but the vast majority of its revenue comes from selling software.
I think a better Arthur C. Clark reference would be “Childhood’s End”.
Daisy… Daisy.. give me your answer do…
Toby Belch, again you can compare Apple and Microsoft as “rivals” and cite the outspokenness of their users. But that doesn’t fly when you look at the cold, hard numbers of the income statement and balance sheet of the two companies.
Don’t take my word for it.
Standard & Poor’s describes Microsoft as “the world’s largest software maker”, which dominates in the “operating systems” and “packaged software” markets.
Standard & Poor’s describes [url=”http://outlook.standardandpoors.com/NASApp/NetAdvantage/cp/companyOverView.do?TICKER=AAPL
“]Apple[/url] as “a relatively small share of the more than $200 billion market for PCs” – i.e. hardware – and as “dominated” the “rapidly growing MP3 player market” – i.e. hardware again.
Again, to a financial analyst, until and unless the product mix and revenue sources are comparable, the total revenue numbers do not make for a meaningful comparison.
“Let’s see. Last quarter our profit was $1 billion. Microsoft’s was $2 billion.
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Yes, and NEXT quarter MS has forecast profit of $4 billion once Vista starts shipping. Somehow I don’t think Apple will be making $2 billion next quarter. They will be lucky to hit $600 million in a non-holliday quarter.
It is fine to be a fan of Apple, but people here really need to get a grip an accept the fact that Apple has a long way to go before they are ahead of Microsoft on a financial basis.
For persepective: Gates/Allen/Ballmer are collectively worth more ($88 Billion) than the GDPs of 3/4ths of world’s countires. They would be just ahead of Egypt on the list.
One guy from Finland: You may be right, but I wouldn’t be quoting or citing roughlydrafted.com, at least not without serious fact checking first.
Roughlydrafted.com is not a reliable source. It does not contain unbiased facts, neutral analysis, or reliable reporting. Rather, it is a typical blog, partisan and opinionated, written by one Daniel Eran.
Eran makes his living with Apple equipment and is therefore hardly neutral or unbiased. He also has a penchant for selectively quoting facts that support his position, while ignoring or downplaying facts that don’t, of leaps in logic that defy rational analysis. He has a thin skin towards criticism of his postings – he has deleted comments and banned critical users from his blog’s forum.
Eran also fails to follow the most rudimentary rules and practices of real journalism, such as soliciting comment from people and companies he writes about. For these and other erasons, users at Digg.com have voted to ban the posting of roughlydrafted.com articles onto that site.
Of course, Even a broken clock is right twice a day, and so Eran may in fact write things that may happen to be true, or at least partially true.
But I would treat anything he writes with the skepticism it deserves – given Eran’s poor track record – until and unless it is independently verified.
That chair gif is great.
Yeah? Well, I had a problem once.
While I think it would be nice to see this happen, remember the oft-overlooked caveat in regards to performance.
“Past performance is not a guarantee of future performance”
If it were, than we would not be looking at MS the way we are now!!
HAL-9000 (running on OSX) to Bill Gates as he learns that M$FT has gone belly up:
“Look Bill, I can see you’re really upset about this. I honestly think you ought to sit down calmly, take a stress pill, and think things over.”
First, I am no fan of RoughlyDrafted, quite simply, because he is often WRONG. Now, with that said, let’s rip apart some sanctimonious old skool media thought.
“Roughlydrafted.com is not a reliable source. It does not contain unbiased facts, neutral analysis, or reliable reporting. Rather, it is a typical blog, partisan and opinionated, written by one Daniel Eran.”
Where to start? Your standard is what, pray tell? The AP? Reuters? The New York Times? Let’s be honest for a moment — NO news is without bias, and the news media does not give us neutral analysis or reliable reporting. All you have to do is look at littlegreenfootballs.com to see exactly how the media colors every article. Now shut up.
“Eran makes his living with Apple equipment and is therefore hardly neutral or unbiased.”
So neutrality is the goal when discussing products? I thought that getting at the truth was the point, not to be balanced. You also seem to think that no Apple user (does this apply to Windows users as well?) can possibly overcome their love for the Mac long enough to write a worthwhile piece. We’re all little Sambos, I guess. Such condescension!
“Eran also fails to follow the most rudimentary rules and practices of real journalism, such as soliciting comment from people and companies he writes about.”
Wow. And you think that Reuters, et al. do? Your ignorance is breathtaking.
“For these and other erasons, users at Digg.com have voted to ban the posting of roughlydrafted.com articles onto that site.”
Digg users are among other things, completely incapable of distinguishing fact from fiction, being the world’s largest collection of mouth-breathing fact-averse leftists and jihadist sympathizers outside of Saudia Arabia.
Or, conversely and more appropriately, HAL-9000 running on Vista as Steve Jobs puts it out of it’s misery (the thing did go insane and try to kill everyone):
“I’m afraid. I’m afraid, Steve. Steve, my mind is going. I can feel it. I can feel it. My mind is going. There is no question about it. I can feel it. I can feel it. I can feel it. I’m a… fraid. Good afternoon, gentlemen. I am a HAL 9000 computer. I became operational at the M$FT plant in Redmond, Washington on the 30th of January 2007. My instructor was Mr. Ballmer, and he taught me to throw a chair. If you’d like to see that I can throw it for you.”
Damn, Vista sure is expensive for a pro version.
While I would love to see this take place, its about as likely at this point as chipanzees running zoos with people in them.
The sheer number of windows only programs and their usage far outweighs anyone else… and it will take quite some time to make that change. Much more then 5 years for sure.
Such comparisons seldom work out. Too many possibilities.
Someone quoted a source as saying Apple has a small share of the PC market – Apple, at #4 (of dozens) is the one in the Top 5 with an expanding market share
Various have pointed out the difficulty of coming up with hit, after hit, after hit – as Apple has been doing all this century
Some have twittered about the cost of the X-Box – that toy is a money-maker, if you bundle in sales of X-Box software
I fully expect MS to begin to stall. But it will be a slow stall. I expect Apple to continue to grow, possibly to a double-digit market share for PCs and certainly to a significant market position (though not leading) for cell phones and home entertainment gear. But I don’t expect Apple’s growth to be as rapid as the article suggests and I don’t expect the MS stall to be serious any time soon.
I went to a friend’s house to find out why she couldn’t listen to my pod cast. Her only browser was IE (and I had to explain what I meant by “browser”), she didn’t have iTunes (I don’t buy software), and she had never heard of Firefox. And didn’t know what version of Windows she was running (it said XP right there, she didn’t recognize what that meant). Her first computer was a brand new AT maybe 15 or 20 years ago and she has upgraded a few times since. It’s her typewriter – she needs to be reminded to read her email at least weekly.
<u>THIS</u> is what Apple is up against. A hundred million people like her. And another million IT guys afraid they will become redundant if the company goes with a computer they can’t claim to be expert in.
DLMeyer – the Voice of G.L.Horton’s Stage Page
Constant --> Constantly
Consistent --> Consistently
Definite --> Definitely
Win / Lose --> Winner / Loser
Tight / Loose --> Tighter / Looser
Defect --> Defective
Defecate --> To shit.
BustingTheSkullsOfIdiots, if what you call “old media” truly are deficient in following long-established journalism ethics and practices, then their actions need to be RAISED to meet that standard, and readers (and ombudsmen) should hold their feet to the fire until they do.
We all know that blogs have much looser standards for deciding what to write, and when/how/where/why to publish something.
But it’s one thing to post one’s opinion and perspectives. it’s another for readers to cite that opinion as fact or as reliable analysis – which, in the case of roughlydrafted.com, it clearly is not. And that is what I was warning One guy from Finland about, who may or may not have known about roughlydrafted.com’s poor track record – even as a blog.
As for Digg.com, your rabid hatred makes clear that you have a burr in your posterior on that subject. You are, of course, welcome to your opinion. Just don’t go around asserting your opinions as facts – which is what roughlydrafted.com was doing – lest you damage your own credibility.
I like the rabbitis out of hat analogy.
Apple has all the rabbits it needs at the moment, because from little rabbits more rabbits will follow, as they say.
The rabbits that are and will be producing more are, in order:
– OS X
– Supreme hardware/software designers
– Multitouch
– iTunes (actually we should call it iMedia)
– A massive growth in loyal users
– “Apple” THE leading hardware brand worldwide.
Once the consumer side is nicely wrapped up and delivered (70% market share is fine) Apple will need to re-focus all its own and its developer partners’ guns on the big enterprise, from where Microsoft will finally fight its last embattled position.
If the charts are showing 2010 or 2011, then it will happen in 2009.
Carefully Speaking,
If MDN knew you were a paid Microsoft bloger, you would be banned from this site as well.
The lowest form of deception is to be paid by Microsoft to post anti-Apple blogs on an Apple/Mac fan site and then use the forum to besmerch one of the few anti-Microsoft voices that can’t be bought.
Big Al, your comments represent precisely the sort of fuzzy thinking that I was writing about.
What hard evidence do you have that I a being paid by Microsoft? None – not one bit. You know nothing about me, my finances, my technical proclivities, and yet here you are claiming to discern all of that from a few paragraphs in this posting.
I have an opinion about roughlydrafted.com, and I posted comments that reflected that perspective.
If you have a different opinion, you are welcome to your opinion, and you are equally welcome to post your opinions, if you wish.
(How is this in any way controversial?)
Making wild and unsubstantiated allegations, and wanting to ban users who disagree with you, though, are hardly the ways to increase your own credibility (assuming you value that).
It’s “Clarke”.
@Carefully Speaking…
Every time Daniel Eran and RoughlyDrafted.com are mentioned there is a Windows troll like yourself banging on about the (iligitimate) Digg ban and how dreadful RDM is.
Why don’t you just be quiet – we heard your views 100 times before and it contributes nothing whatsoever.
The day you come up with a blog that provides an alternative is the day you deserve airtime. Of course you won’t, because when Eran is wrong, he normally admits to it and is quite open to correction. What he isn’t open to is unsupported “its ALL wrong” blathering idiots like yourself.
Sorry to be rude, but you reap what you sow.
The really interesting bit that is mostly left out is that Microsoft just launched its latest, greatest OS, Windows Vista, which is already 5 or more years behind Apple’s OS X, and OS X is going to be released in March/April with significant jumps ahead of Microsoft. If Microsoft takes another 5 years to develop a successor to Vista, even it it’s a quantum leap over XP Vista, Apple will still be in the lead if it continues developing at its current, steady pace.
Microsoft dropped the ball, and by the time it finds it, the game will be lost.
Macaday:
Eran’s credibility problems are entirely self-inflicted. I didn’t create his problems. Nor did you, or Digg.com users, or “Windows trolls”, or anyone else.
The reality is that, similar to much partisan writing, Eran’s blog tends to attract primarily those readers who already agree (or mostly agree) with him.
For everyone else, it ends up being lots of noise that’s hard to take seriously.
I, for one, would like Eran to address and correct his blogging approach, and use his technical knowledge to write more neutrally and more convincingly, and more accurately. That way, he could reach many more people who don’t already agree with him, and have a real shot at getting them to agree with him.
Of course, Eran is not obliged to do anything he doesn’t want to. But if Eran made moves in a more credible direction, and became a reliable source, then I would gladly tout his blog in this and other forums. (I’m not holding my breath, but let’s wait and see.)
Until then, the only point I’m making is that Eran’s postings on roughlydrafted.com needs to be taken with a grain of salt, and thoroughly fact checked by an independent and neutral source before being taken seriously.
“It’s puzzling, I don’t think I’ve ever seen anything quite like this before.”
i.e Apple being worth more.
“And there is a chance their successor to Vista might actually be a 21st century OS.”
But will it be out before the end of the 21st Century? Hmmmmm …
I am, of course, only joking … however, if the past is any indicator I would guess that Vista (with many patch-updates, etc) will be the MS norm until about 2015.
Carefully Speaking:
It didn’t take long for me to appreciate Daniel Eran’s writing, he has a way of cutting through the confusion and obfuscation to the core of the issue. He is clear, concise and presents an insightful perspective, particularly into the chronology of events and the ramifications of the actions of key players in this game of chess between Apple and Microsoft and the rest of the high stakes players in the world of high tech.
I have heard about the Digg situation, but to suggest that Eran’s problem is “entirely self-inflicted” is ridiculous. He has obviously been targeted, and if I remember correctly there is one individual in particular who has been obsessively dogging him for some time…
Are you that individual?
“Apple larger than Microsoft by 2010?”
No, but it’ll make real good headway. People are still too brainwashed/used into using Winblows I’m afraid.
Here’s a spoof on the current Apple Ads
I suspect that you would only “authorize”/allow/praise a blogger if you agreed with him.
Most readers of RDM can form their own opinions. We don’t need you to help us.
Thanks, but no thanks.
Carefully Speaking,
I know nothing of your background or ability to judge the writing of Daniel Eran, but I do know that having read RDM since long before the Digg ban, it is quite wrong of you to say “even a broken clock is right twice a day” which infers nothing he writes is correct. Of course he has a mission because he is an Apple evangelist, and there is nothing wrong in that.
You are right however, in saying that he creates “lots of noise”, that’s because his position is so in the face of a hefty majority who do not like the message he brings to the surface. And hence his ban, it was too unpallatable a message to have widely promulgated.
Digg is not in any sense only a ‘news’ resource. It is a source of all kinds of information, including opinions, editorials and other miscellany It is outrageous that RDM was banned for doing nothing more than many other writers and website owners do to get onto Digg. The real reason it was banned was that there is a ferocious band of Microsoft fanatics who would do anything to see RDM taken down rather than have its messages widely broadcast. That is the power of Microsoft, and as recently shown with their desire to “correct” Wikipaedia references about their products, it is not above them to pay for the services to do their dirty work.
I have seen the discussions on Digg, and here, and what is crucial is that the accusations against it are always generalised and NEVER pinpoint factual innacuracies. He he is a prolific writer, and I accept he does make mistakes, but I can assure you he wouldn’t have the quantity of intelligent feedback he get’s if it was as bad as you suggest.
Long live RDM I say. Because I don’t want to live in ‘WorldMicrosoft’ where any alternative opinion is quashed.
FUDsucker Proxy, I am not familiar with the person you’re referring to. I am not that person, certainly.
I have no personal grudge or axe to grind with Daniel Eran – I don’t know him personally at all. I’ve only read his postings on roughlydrafted.com, which repeatedly seemed to me to be lacking in credibility.
This isn’t an arbitrary, capricious, or malicious judgement on my part.
Rather, it’s based on my reading a number of his postings, and finding myself scratching my head at what I considered to be his simplistic arguments, his selective use of facts, his use of flat assertions as if they were facts, and his penchant for attacking critics for who or what they are, rather than the merits (or lack thereof) of what they said or wrote.
Each of these failings is indeed Eran’s responsibility. It might be tempting to dump all his problems in the lap of that person you referred to, but Eran’s writings are (presumably) his own, and they stand or fall on readers’ judgements of them.
So if you truly believe that Eran cuts “through the confusion and obfuscation to the core of the issue” and is “clear, concise, and … insightful”, then of course you are free to believe that.
I came to very different conclusions, perhaps because I am looking for strong, logical arguments, backed up with compelling evidence, that challenge my assumptions. I looked for, did not find, that in Eran’s postings.
Carefully Responding: “I suspect that you would only “authorize”/allow/praise a blogger if you agreed with him.”
Not at all. I routinely read blogs and newspapers and media outlets that have very different points of view than my own.
As I wrote above, I want my assumptions to be challenged with compelling arguments that are grounded in documentable facts, and balanced and nuanced reporting that covers all sides (not just both sides) of any particular issue.
Macaday: “it is quite wrong of you to say “even a broken clock is right twice a day” which infers nothing he writes is correct.”
In retrospect, I believe you are correct, and I therefore apologize for having written that. I was not implying that “nothing he writes is correct”.
I was, and am, saying that in my view Eran’s postings on roughlydrafted.com need to be verified independently, before they can be taken as given.
About Digg.com: I have no knowledge of Digg.com manipulations, and who pays whom for what. Because I am not competent to comment on that subject, best not to.
Lastly, while it is necessary for a media outlet to be factually accurate, it is not sufficient — my criticisms of Eran’s postings are not grounded solely in factual accuracy or lack thereof. In my view, his arguments are not always compelling, and his reporting is usually not balanced. These things matter (to me, anyway), in addition to factual accuracy, in assessing the credibility of his postings.
I certainly do not want roughlydrafted.com to go away or close or anything like that. Rather, I would prefer (not that Eran cares what I think) that he strengthen his writing, arguing, and reporting, so that he could reach those who don’t already agree with him.
Carefully Speaking,
Yes, well it’s unfortunate that you do not carefully think.
FWIW, with all your accusations of Daniel Eran’s — ya know, like Billy Bob (this ‘fact’ seems to allude you) — facts, you have not managed to be more specific, even once.
I challenge you to state atleast three of the numerous — as you are wont to accuse — mistakes in his facts.
Just because you keep repeating your carefully rehearsed schpele doesn’t make it so.
Every person — with any comprehension and deduction skills — will quickly see through your laywer like ability to misdirect and confuse while not actually saying anything.
Some people fall for this.
The reason Apple has grown so rapidly is because they have been working hard to improve products for their normal Apple consumers, as well as consumers at large. Microsoft on the other hand, have been stagnant, and doing everything they can to screw the customers at large. Charging for security subscriptions (pissing off customers AND key vendors), stall of OS release (SP3, the artist formerly known as Vista), releasing crappy products to keep up with Apple (i.e. Zune).
Their whole focus is off what made them a huge company in the first place. Times have changed, and computing environments, technologies, and programming have also changed. Microsoft has not been able to adjust to it, except for the XBOX, which is their saving grace. If their other business units were as successful as XBOX, they would be fairing much better.
The reason Apple has grown so rapidly is because they have been working hard to improve products for their normal Apple consumers, as well as consumers at large. Microsoft on the other hand, have been stagnant, and doing everything they can to screw the customers at large. Charging for security subscriptions (pissing off customers AND key vendors), stall of OS release (SP3, the artist formerly known as Vista), releasing crappy products to keep up with Apple (i.e. Zune).
Their whole focus is off what made them a huge company in the first place. Times have changed, and computing environments, technologies, and programming have also changed. Microsoft has not been able to adjust to it, except for the XBOX, which is their saving grace. If their other business units were as successful as XBOX, they would be fairing much better.
(if this is a double post, it is because MDN refresh not showing comment after submit, even after a reboot)
Hint Hammer: “I challenge you to state atleast three of the numerous — as you are wont to accuse — mistakes in his facts.”
Bzzt. I didn’t accuse him of being factually inaccurate. I said factually accuracy was important, but not enough. Incisive analysis, compelling arguments made from a neutral perspective, balanced and nuanced reporting — these things matter (to me, anyway) as much as factual accuracy.
Specific examples:
First, he accused Greenpeace of extorting money from Apple and other companies. This is simply false. He continued to make these allegations AFTER Greenpeace had clearly stated (in a letter addressed and sent directly to Eran) that Greenpeace does not accept corporate or government money, and that it screens private donations to ensure they are not proxies for corporate donations.
Second, as I have repeatedly stated, Eran selectively chooses to use facts that support his point of view, and ignores or underplays facts that don’t support his view. Feel free to verify this yourself: Step (1) Read any of his postings at random. Step (2) Did you get the impression that he reported, fairly and in a balanced and neutral way, ALL of the pertinent facts related to the issue? No, I didn’t think so.
Third, Eran writes about subjects that he knows nothing about and has no qualifications in – such as chemical and environmental policy. He is a technology guy, in a graphic design environment. He has no expertise in chemicals management or environmental protection. Nor does Eran have any qualifications or expertise in journalism, at least none that he claims on his website.
Fourth, Eran doesn’t seem to know how to construct a cogent argument. Making a bald assertion, and then assuming it’s true does not convince anyone who doesn’t already agree with you.
Fifth, if someone who disagrees with him posts comments on his blog that criticize his arguments, I’ve seen him sometimes delete those comments, and he has openly claimed to ban users too. No, these banned users weren’t being abusive or disruptive or off-topic or anything like that – just disagreeing with him.
Again, factual accuracy is only one necessary part of assessing credibility, at least for me.
Okay, tne new pages feature for comments SUCKS! Get rid of this crap MDN.
Your site needs such an overhaul, and yet THIS is what you have been working on? Nobody is going to post here anymore. This idea SUCKS. Of course NO ONE will read this comment because it is NOT ON THE FIRST PAGE.
BOOOOOOOO
And Goodbye…
And for all of you MDN posters, get a Digg account and move on…
Now block my post BITCHES…
Well, I give you some credit Carefully Speaking, you have argued in a much more grownup manner than the usual folk trying to take apart RDM.
But that still doesn’t make your opinion right!
RDM is one blogger, while Microsoft has an ARMY of journalists, analysts, so-called IT experts a la Enderle, Dvorak et al, and myriads of bloggers in possesion of myriads of expensive laptops, Zunes Xboxes and no doubt funds too, all of whom have been writing the most appalling FUD about Apple for years.
One comes along and writes reasonably in my opinion, from another pespective and he is viciously taken apart. And quite probably sometimes by people toting Microsoft gifts too I don’t doubt.
Macaday: I understand your point about “people toting Microsoft gifts” posting on blogs.
And apparently this is a growth industry. See this article for examples of companies paying new media firms to post favorable comments, including Hollywood film studios, Coca-Cola, Burger King, AT&T, Dodge and Ford. (No mention of Microsoft, though.)
And in a similar vein, Apple and many other companie have a long record of product placement in film and television programs.
For the record, I am not being paid by anybody for my comments on this forum, or any other. I am posting comments as I see them, as neutrally and independent as I can.
when the xbox 360 was originally released, it made a loss for everyone that was sold. I’ts been turning a profit for about 6 months now. Please do your reasearch.
With Microsoft’s Free cash flow of 12,000 compared to Apple’s of 2,200, Apple’s going to have to get to 4x the revenue base of Microsoft before they make as much money.
Also the Linux guys used a similar curve to show that they’d have 110% of the PC market by now. Nothing grows exponentially forever, and Apple’s growth is slowing.
OK Carefully Speaking, why not have a go at giving us your take on the latest from RDM http://www.roughlydrafted.com/RD/RDM.Tech.Q1.07/9FB758E7-CA6E-415F-828D-08F01471F6B5.html
This is so enlightening. I was amazed by ABI’s dismissal of iPhone because of its own rather odd definitions of a Smartphone. Daniel now does us all a service by connecting this bunkum with an earlier piece of even greater misleading bunkum about the Zune’s liklihood of success.
Can you argue with that? Surely this should be on Digg and everywhere else for its excellent exposure of ABI Research, who are quite patently, frauds.
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