Looks like the Ellen DeGeneres show gave away a bunch of Microsoft Zunes (The #1 daytime show, Oprah, already did it with Apple’s iPod nano (PRODUCT) RED Special Edition).
Note the lack of information about the draconian limits to Zune sharing (three times, then self-destruct – regardless of media source, ie. from a store or even a song you made yourself; all shared Zune content gets Microsoft’s 3-time-only-then-go-boom DRM), that the round thing there is a fake click wheel designed to fool people that it works like an iPod (it’s really just a four-way button), or the fact that the Zune Marketplace doesn’t even offer video content.
Note also that nobody ever went broke underestimating the intelligence of the American housefrau (or overestimating their size). Ellen’s studio full of carbo-loaded soccer moms go absolutely berserk; it’s like a Saturday Night Live skit. We can only pray that those studio bleachers are severely reinforced. Man, there’s a whole lotta shakin’ going on over at Ellen! Seriously, they really ought to call it The Ellen DeGeneres Farm Hour: two normal-sized humans in front of the camera and 300 cows behind it. No wonder our health insurance rates are astro-freakin-nomical.
One word: diet. Here’s another: exercise.
Anyway, after seeing that bizarre reaction to a piece of re-branded Toshiba crap, we hope they had medics on hand for the fainters or at least passed out cigarettes after the orgasmic excitement subsided. We didn’t see any squirting, but something was certainly going on:
So, whaddya think, can Microsoft fool the ignorant masses again (in which case, Steve Jobs would nip the whole thing in the bud PDQ) or will people not be so excited once they find out Zune’s many weaknesses?
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Is that Joe Lee’s Wife?
When they get home, their kids will set them straight. I’m going to be watching eBay to guage the rejection rate. How many do you think were in the audience?
They look like bricks…
Did anyone from the audience throw the Zune back at Ellen?
I’d be excited too if someone gave me a free zune or free ipod or free ice cream cone. Free is free!
Marketing is Marketing.
MS donated the Zunes to be given away.
Ellen is a Mac user… she’s a client.
Loves her mac.
DeGeneres – I’d rather not comment!
ahhhhhhhhhyahhhhhh!! Overweight bi-polar depression housewives explode!
It was FREE. These idiots in these studio audiences would go crazy over any little thing given to them.
Ellen gave everyone in her audience poop.
Wow, what has the world come to?
Oprah, btw, is a Windows user that barely knows where the on key is located. She “has people to do that.”
I’d never go broke underestimating the intelligence of Oprah.
I’m sure everyone who recieved a free Zune got their money’s worth. 😀
-jcr
That audience was most likely coached to go nuts, as often done with live-audience TV tapings. Or maybe they thought they were getting iPods instead!
There is only one legit Zune offering on eBay at this time. it is a pre-order auction with no bids.
There are three Zunes offered from Hong Kong with pick up delivery only. Sounds like a scam. Lots of Zune domain names for sale.
I would take the Zune and sell it on ebay. And then buy at least part of an ipod with the money. There are enough stupid people that would buy it, so I could have a ipod anyway.
So then what, they go home…. and do WHAT with them? There’s no store, no software, no other users. Its as exciting as an empty hard drive.
LOL
How did they give away something that’s not on available yet? Maybe they got a coupon for one. If they did get one at the studio, those Zunes will actually get a good price on eBay until they are available to the public. And just think, that studio may be the only time they will be in a crowded place with other Zunes within wireless range.
WOW.. that’s a lot of enthusiasm.. is that authentic?
I kind of feel sorry for those people.. like an old person who thinks they got an “exceptional deal on a guaranteed investment.”
Oh well, I guess it plays MP3 files at least, so maybe it’s not totally worthless.
Ellen and Oprah and the like are nothing more than high priced infomercials anymore.
All they do is sell their name at a nice penny to ANYONE who wants to sell something.
books, diets, media players, psychics, movies, etc.
They sold their soul long ago
Kimmy doesn’t like Ellen.
Ellen Degenerate and Zune… priceless!
MDN Magic Word: ILL !
ROFLMFAO!
I broke my Oprah avoidance to watch the red iPod Bono episode. I was really hoping everyone in the studio audience would get one. I didn’t watch long enough to find out.
I also noticed that the model they showed in the clip is black.. not the trademark “Brown Zune” everyone has been talking about.
this many posts into the thread and nobody has made any squirt jokes yet! For shame my fellow readers. I’ll get us started:
it sure looked like Ellen wanted to squirt a little more than pictures at the foxy Asian woman …
At least Oprah gave away cars.
Will they be screaming this much when they all find out they’re getting the ‘brown’ one?
Just wait until the realize that NONE of the legal music services support it and they’ll have to wait to buy it from MicroSUX. Also, like someone else said, live audiences have cheerleaders just off camera that cue people to cheer, boo, whatever. Heck, I bet most of those folks thought they were getting free iPods and even called to say the got the new iPod to friends until they were quickly corrected. This thing is going to SO die when the next iPod with the wide screen, HD, Virtual click wheel hits.
Wonder how long it’ll be before we start seeing these on eBay? Tomorrow? Later today?
OH NO, A 150 over weight, white trash housewives running around with a ZUNE, that’ll kill the iPod.
LOL
I would hate to have the studio on the floor below Ellen’s with all those fat people jumping up and down like that upstairs. It must have been terrifying.
That looks hideously contrived.
there is something very perverse to give a not all together woman a not all together product – shame on you Microsoft
“Tina, you fat lard, come get some dinner!”
No wonder there are more single than married adults now. If this is what today’s woman turns into after marriage… no thanks!
So is all this fat a product of feminism, our food industry, or…?
Zune… oh yeah… I was too grossed out by the women to be grossed out by the Zune (though it does).
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Just luurve the madness of it all ;]
Give it to me free and I’d be dropping my pants too, even if I binned it next day!
Anyway it’s a studio audience who’ve been amped up to squeal!
Ellen is a little Zuney…….
Hope she doesn’t squirt anyone.
I’m worried…
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devnull my thoughts exactly!
Has MS even developed a zune type jukebox to interface with the computer?
Hey when you’re on Welfare and have nothing else to do all day but watch or attend these daytime “hen party” shows, even a Zune is something to cheer about.
Ok, now for the important comments…
That Asian chick is hot!!!
The other bad side to this is that the luck women who got a Zune will have to pay the tax on it. LOL
cptnkirk
OK, I just watched this video and can’t see an audience going berserk. Just people clapping and jumping a little. What’s the deal MDN? This is just people responding to a free gift. I would have used a different word other than berserk. Maybe excited at the most. Berserk means “out of control”.
Never over estimate the average consumer.
I offer Windows as proof.
Zune may do well, depends on how the masses who already have an iPod treat those who are getting Zunes. Like getting the blue Keds when everyone else had the red ones, you hid the blue ones and pretended that your old man was out of work. You say anything before you admitted that your Mom bought you the ones that weren’t cool.
“The movies is so clear”
Ellen said it pays movies.
She wouldn’t lie, would she?
Oh wait she said it was cool too, so she’s a complete fraud.
They went crazy for the social networking part second only to the “getting one for free” part.
I think women for some reason like the idea of sharing, whereas us guys could give a fly crap about it.
That was disgusting. I’ve never seen so many fat ladies jump up and down.
Oi! I’d like to squirt something from my Zune to the Asian chick!
Ohhhh! Yeeeeeeah!
MDN: Again. Yeah! Squirt me again!
“That was disgusting. I’ve never seen so many fat ladies jump up and down.”
Too bad Tyra doesn’t give away some iPods…her audience is usually hot 20 year old model wannabes.
That asian girl who was repping Zune is hot.
She was the main attraction of the clip, IMHO.
Looks like Ellen’s talk show just jumped the shark.
/thinks ellen is cool.
//zune is not
///i like pie
Why do people like this obviously stupid oriental chick spout their nonsense as if they actually know something?
She says, “These things create a social network”.
Uh, what’s that you say? A social network?!!! How is squirting a song with an expiration date shorter than milk equal to a “social network”. I have this type of buzzword shit. She’s reading directly from the MS talking points.
And all of those dumb bi***es in the audience jumping up and down for having a “social network”? So, when they get home with their crap-colored brick , HOW EXACTLY ARE THEY GOING TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THAT SOCIAL NETWORK?!!! Do all of the audience members live in an Ellen Lesbian commune or something? That’s one of the main problems with this highly overrated feature of the Zune. It’s not self-contained. It’s not a feature you are guaranteed to be able to use. It requires someone being nearby to you that:
A) Is also clueless enough to have a Zune
B) You know well enough to actually squirt something to or receive a squirt from
For all of their orgasmic hoopla, not one of those dumber-than-stumps women will ever do any squirting with their Zunes – either to or from.
And then, notice how the oriental chicks talk about the great “resolution”. Uh, yeah, it has the identical resolution to the iPod, you ignorant whore. But since it’s large it’s not as sharp. She’s equating dimensions with resolution! I can only think of one good use for her. She looks pretty good in those pants, and her face aint bad either. But anything taking a little thought and knowledge is something she should stay away from.
Well it’s a different strategy, I’ll give Microsoft that. I can’t see giving free zunes to every single person in the world as being particularly profitable though.
Oh my god. Apple has lost the talk show audience niche.
Check this out:
“Weirdest iPod Accessories Ever” article in PC mag:
http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,1895,2033965,00.asp
When the list for Zune’s comes out, #7 will be an anal probe.
I just watched that wretched video again and noticed that the audience members are overwhelmingly fat and ugly. When they jump up and down you see all of this blubber bouncing up and down. These chicks probably don’t need much to excite them in their dull lives.
Looks like Ellen has created a social network of fat and ugly bordeline-lesbian buffoons.
And of course they all go berserk as if she had just announced the Second Coming. They’re all drooling to acquire the latest thing regardless of its merits. Consumerism is the opiate of the masses.
Ellen Degenerate: “The movies is so clear!”
That statement is priceless on several different levels.
Just wait until they try to put iTunes content on it!
Oops,
She’s a sales rep. I bet she quite intelligent, graduated from Berkeley with top honours.
She is just talking down to the cows in the pen, in a language they can understand.
I wonder if they’ll be able to sue Ellen for pain and suffering once they find out they’re not iPods….
Can anyone say paid response? I could understand that kind of response if they were giving away free iPods, but damn. They were straight dancing in the isle. I guess they replaced their little “applaud” light with a “jump up and down and give praise” light.
The Audience is just like Zune; fat, ugly, useless pieces of crap.
People go nuts over free anything. She could have been handing out frozen dog turds and people would have gone about as crazy… which is ironic since frozen dog turds and Zunes are pretty similar anyway.
Take it easy Oops.
This was just a lame marketing event. Of course the zune rep is not going to tell anyone about the severe limitations of the thing. They are just trying to sell the product. No need to resort to name calling. I mean, we’re talking about consumer electronics here… do we really need to call anyone a whore for not being entirely forthcoming about the Zune’s resolution vs the iPod? What ever happened to manners? My mom would have knocked me into next week if she ever caught me disrespecting a woman like that.
Never underestmate the power of the APPLAUSE sign. Anyway, I would take a Zune if someone gave it to me for free. Free gear is fun.. YEA!
Ellen likes to put her Zune in the vibrate mode, then put it, heh heh heh, between her heh heh heh legs and heh heh up her BUM, then have a friend squirt a song on over, heh heh heh and……
Geez. MDN doesn’t sound at all smug. I wonder where anyone gets that idea about Apple fans…. *sigh*
Did anyone see the one dude in the clip? One pair of testes surrounded by a seeting mass of female manatees…a brave soul…or a very confused one.
Heyyyyyyyyyyyyy,
The Zune can share file. I though that way a big no no. So this way is right but going to Peer 2 Peer is wrong to share files.
MAN, is that calling the kettle black.
WOW
I was in a diagnostic center last week setting up a CT scan appointment and this Ellen DeGeneres show was on the tube pumped into the waiting room. The intelligence level pegged my IQ meter at zero.
These people could have gotten jobs as stock analysts with Gartner.
Ellen DeGen—– “Yes–Let me zune you, I HAVE to give them away.”
I
Ooops, you got me laughing so hard over here. Your comments were hilarious, but so true. You said what many are probably thinking.
Those voluptuous women were probably just happy to get something for free.
Slow news day, eh MDN? This happened weeks ago. Time to play catch up?
Um, these people didn’t “go” nuts for the Zune… This is no different than reality television (and how the producers give people direction) – and the fact that there are large blinking signs that say “APPLAUSE” for the studio audience. These people were merely told to “go” nuts by the producers of the show thus why they look like they’re freaking out.. It’s TV plain and simple…
That was surreal. The crowd was *obviously* coached big time, the way they’re jumping around like idiots for piece of consumer electronics. What a load!
holdon wrote:
“Take it easy Oops.
This was just a lame marketing event. Of course the zune rep is not going to tell anyone about the severe limitations of the thing. They are just trying to sell the product. No need to resort to name calling. I mean, we’re talking about consumer electronics here… do we really need to call anyone a whore for not being entirely forthcoming about the Zune’s resolution vs the iPod? What ever happened to manners? My mom would have knocked me into next week if she ever caught me disrespecting a woman like that.”
My reply: She’s a lying marketing whore. If she spreads ignorance, then she spreads ignorance. It’s not somehow acceptable that she did it because it’s a “lame marketing event”. That oriental chick has only one good use, and that’s to be flat on all fours taking what she’s got coming to her with her mouth taped shut.
And BTW, I couldn’t care less about your useless momma that obviously turned you into a milquetoast wimp that licks women’s boots. I bet you’re gay.
Ellen squirt me The Divinyl’s song “I touch myself”.
OK now you squirt me Melissa Etheridge
who’s got Indigo Girls
puh lease
Oops,
“And BTW, I couldn’t care less about your useless momma that obviously turned you into a milquetoast wimp that licks women’s boots. I bet you’re gay.”
Way to go, keyboard Kommando. Looks like using an iPod hasn’t raised your intelligence very much.
Will, I have found that once you are as saturated with intelligence as I am, it becomes increasingly difficult to become even more intelligent. It’s like trying to make a wet sponge wetter. Or like trying to make Will’s hole looser.
Okay, all kidding aside, you seem unable to detect I’m just toying with “holdon” by resorting being deliberately over-the-top.
Because? Well, “holdon” prances onto the scene and presumes to lecture me. One thing I hate as much as ignorance is self-righteous, moralizing, sanctimonious, holier-than-thou, Johnny Goodheart soapboxing. So I cut his nut off and fed it to my pitbull.
Holdon, be a man!
Wow… what a cllip. I knew there was an “APPLAUSE” button in those studios, but they must have a “LOSE YOUR FREAKIN’ MINDS UNTIL YOU WET YOURSELVES” button on the Ellen show.
I think the Earth just moved off it’s axis. I’ve never seen so many fat people jump in unison.
lol, those are gonna be the only people to have zunes in the country!
also, did you see how long it took her to get a picture up on there?
This is some of the funniest stuff I’ve read in a long. You guys are crazy.
Did ellen mention it was ac/dc?
Oops = Wet Sponge.
Say no more.
Can someone say applause signal?
Noone really wants a Zune, nobody even knows what it is except for people that keep up with this tech stuff.
Nice one Microsoft but ur not gonna make a profit by giving away zune’s.
Jon,
M$ isn’t trying to make a profit. They’re creating a “social network.” You know, to be all do-goodie and stuff.
I love that line “It creates a social network.” How the hell do you know? They’re not even available yet.
Zune: the choice of DeGenerates
Lots of adolescent boy posturing on here. Yeah, that’s what I come for.
Oh yeah, & little man “Oops” is just a mouthy boy.
I’ve used, fixed & sold Macs longer than most of you have been alive, so I’m an Apple fan, but you kids are just silly.
The internet is too often a pooling of the lowest denominator… even among Mac users.
geeze
Zune. It Squirts!
For those interested..
Apple has created official MySpace pages for the blue, green and pink nano’s:
http://www.myspace.com/bluenano
http://www.myspace.com/greennano
http://www.myspace.com/pinknano
Add them to your friends list and be sure to download the nano screen savers.. Pretty cool.
another reason why you can’t trust dikes….
WOW!!! You’d think the Zune came with a coupon for free liposuction with so many fatties going crazy.
the skinny “marketing filler” states: “you can put it in landscape to make your pictures and movies bigger.”
Of course they’re going to be “bigger” than say the iPod’s, at least from a resolution standpoint. Both are 320×240, yet the Zune has a larger screen. Which means your pixels are just bigger.
That was *astonishingly* lame. It was full of lies! The Zune doesn’t even support video — it only has animation for the backdrop screen to fool people into thinking it does video. She makes it sound like the Zune does movies like the iPod.
And notice she’d didn’t actually show “squirting” a song to Ellen — that would have taken too long and the audience would have gotten bored and wandered away.
That landscape quote was my favorite: how does merely rotating your Zune 90 degrees make the screen BIGGER???
Ridiculous stuff!
Where’s Ampar?
The whole audience gets ZUNED ewwwww!
This posting is a little over the top, even for a gritty Web site like MacDailyNews. Yikes!
People are dumb. The iPods days are numbered. Lucky I bought an 80giger while I still could.
How much did they have to pay the audience?????
iPhone Jan 07′
The Zune Phone 10 years early.
Maybe they thought the black Zunes were made out of chocolate. I saw a lot of heffers jumping, it reminded me of a rodeo. I wondered if they hired a rodeo clown to calm the audience.
Wow! I never imagined Apple people could be so nasty and vicious. We all know the Zune will NEVER even come close to the success of the iPod. The fact that we’re secure in that knowledge makes the name-calling and cruelty all the more unnecessary.
One word: humility. Here’s another: compassion.
I may be a bit late to this (i do have a job y’know) someone may have covered this already… and if they have then I totally agree with them. That said, has anyone here ever been to the taping of a program with a studio audience? I have. I’ve been to a few. Doesn’t matter which one you go to –they’re all the same. Audience participation and reaction is manufactured. It’s Hollywood baby! What you don’t see is what’s happening with the audience between takes and comercial breaks. There’s someone (in many cases a few people) in charge of making the audience cheer, boo, gasp and/or whimper as the situation may dictate. As anyone here who’s witnessed it can attest, audience reaction is absolutely fake and very much manufactured. These people are excited about being told to be excited. Their reaction has little to do with anything except the sheer excitement of being part of the show in some way. It’s more than a little scary how mob mentality is engadged in these situations. You saw it. It’s almost as if they were reacting to the fact thay every person in the studio won 100 million dollars and a limo ride to the moon. Now, I’m not saying that Zune will succeed or fail. Microsoft needs to make this work. I’m sure they’ll pull out all the stops on this one…
i don’t know…but what i could see…the people there were really fat, overweight 15 year olds….sorry….i watched it twice….the show should have been about how fat those girls really are….and what they should do about it….sorry…they have an IQ of a tree and they saw a sign to cheer and jump up and down about zune….or some other body part…
i know…i shouldn’t be so cruel….but i just can’t help saying the truth….young people are so very stupid….especially with the fag woman up there telling everyone how great this thing is…it really sounds like a microcrap commerical…
i wonder if the raptor will use this in a few weeks…this will be the best commerical redmond will come up with….as they lose $$ on everyone they sale…
i’m sorry to offend anyone out there that is overwieght….but to be 50 + pounds overweight at 15 years old is really bad…it will only get worse as you grow older….
I will try to be more polically correct in the future….but zune is a nothing thing….but then…for free…i bet there will be millions sold…or given away….
This whole social networking thing Microcock is trying to push probably will have some sort of MySpace-like hype about it. “If you use a Zune, you’ll have friends.” Ought to appeal to the socially inept geeks that tend to be some of the most diehard Windoze fans and all the emo people, which may include the type on this show. Just my opinion on the matter.
MDW class. Such as Microsoft has no class.
Poor brainwashed masses.
But that Zune-mongering Asian woman sure looked hot.
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I got a toy in my Cracker Jacks yesterday. I was excited at first. It sucked, but the Cracker Jacks were good…
Hey, is it me or that Zune-squiriting Asian lady looks like the actress Lucy Liu !?!
YAY! I got a Zune! I got a Zune!
Now I can put this bad boy on eBay and use the money to help me get an iPod! BOOYA!
they shoulda given those wobblebottoms ipods with running shoes…
You can’t even get TV shows on Zune.
Come on, MDN, fat jokes? Why would you even present your readers with the temptation to engage in such juvenile crap. Are you that insecure about the dominance of the iPod? I’m not. As I see it, the only thing the Zune has going for it is the widescreen display for movies. I figure Apple is going to encorporate that into a future version of iPod anyway, so it won’t make a huge difference.
Unfortunately – MS CAN fool the masses. I was at a sales recognition event last night where they gave away some Zen MP3 and video players and people went nuts. – Overheard a comment that iPods were for macs so they were glad to get this one.
The untapped market of ignorance is still huge – all the iPods ever sold would probably not furnish all the inhabitants of the state of Texas. (20 mil plus) – that leaves the rest of the world untapped for MS crap
Apple has sold over 68 million iPods to date.
“Matthew”
Zune doesn’t have a widescreen display… just do a little research and you’ll see that… in fact, just search THIS site for the article Zune Myths and you’ll see all about that “widescreen display”.
“The movies is so clear”
What movies?
“Zune: the choice of DeGenerates”
Now you’d just stealing Apple’s line where they claim to appeal to “Artistic” people.
“Which means your pixels are just bigger.”
Which results in a larger overall screen size, Which is the point.
“The untapped market of ignorance is still huge “
1.6 million Macs this quarter, it has to be at least THAT big.
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