“Several Apple resellers are marketing Intel-based Mac desktops and portables with Windows XP pre-installed, but Apple Computer Inc. reiterated that it has no intention of following their lead. The resellers, which include a small Utah-based company and a major California computer online warehouse, are bundling Windows XP with standard Macintosh models, and pre-installing the Microsoft operating system using the Boot Camp dual-boot application that Apple released earlier this month,” Gregg Keizer reports for TechWeb.com.
“ExperCom is touting a $2,029 MacBook Pro with Windows XP Home pre-loaded; the price is just $35 above the Apple price for the portable. Meanwhile, ClubMac.com, MacMall.com, and OnSale.com — all three part of Torrance, Calif.-based PC Mall — list MacBook Pro, iMac, and Mac mini machines with XP Home or XP Professional installed. Windows XP Home bumps up the usual price of the computer by $100, while XP Professional costs an additional $150. Retail prices for Windows XP Home are in the $190-198 range,” Keizer reports. “A sales representative from MacMall told TechWeb that users can select the size of the disk partition assigned to Windows XP during the ordering process… But there are limits to what the resellers will do. “We don’t support Windows XP – and neither does Apple,” ExperCom said on its site.”
“The bundling of Windows with Mac was inevitable, said Joe Wilcox, an analyst with JupiterMedia. But he didn’t think that the trend will become widespread, and doesn’t believe Apple will ever follow suit,” Keizer reports. “It’ll be cold day in hell when Apple sells Windows in its retail stores or online. ‘It’s not in Apple’s interest to promote Windows’ that way, said Wilcox. If Apple did pre-install Windows, it would have to follow the same rules as other OEMs, like Dell and HP, which are required to shoulder the Windows support burden. But the ability to order a machine ready to run both Mac OS X and Windows XP out of the box may be increasingly attractive as the year goes on, Wilcox argued. ‘The sales path is cleared for Apple through 2006. There will be no marketing bang around [Windows] Vista, and Macs are fresh, new, and different. So the people who are tired of the same thing, who want to try something new, but realize that the reality is that Windows is everywhere, they may start thinking about a Mac.'”
Full article here.
MacDailyNews Take: Excellent development! Apple’s “Embrace and extinguish” plan is executing flawlessly. Give them their Windows “insecurity blanket” first. Let them find out for themselves what Mac OS X and Apple’s Mac-only apps like iLife, Safari, etc. are all about. Then, when the time comes to buy their next Mac, they’ll be just like us: they won’t even care if it can run Windows. We are extremely confident that Mac OS 10.4 Tiger will win converts from Windows XP. Heck, for that matter, we’re extremely confident that Mac OS X 10.2 Jaguar would win converts from Windows XP. We’ve seen it happen in real life too many times: let someone really use a Mac for a couple of weeks and they simply do not want to go back to Windows.
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Andrew The Game Playing Troll,
Are you really old enough to buy your own computers?
If you really are a game playing fool how do you find the time to troll almost every MDN post?
Inquiring minds want to know.
Sleeve:
Dude, OS 9 won me over!
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It was System 7 for me.
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Apple needs to redesign the Mac so it is more easily customised. As in upgrading graphics cards and other hardware bits. It’s nice to be able to run windows games and apps but if the hardware isn’t quite up to scratch it won’t work the best. Thats where pc’s have the upper hand. I’m thinking mainly game performance here.
neomonkey:
No, English would be fine. Do you think you can do that? Extra points for grammer.
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What, no points for spelling?
ok ozzy the % that i divided was just for fun, there are a lot of people who are pros at it, i know, my member of the famaly uses it, but i wouldnt say that the system is perfect, infact its far from perfect! yes it is better then windows, no dout in that, and no i dont use dell to type it on, i have a bought pc which i wish i built my self now but it does the job for me.
ms released 64 bit version as well, not sure how good it is but still, plus if you ever used windows desktop search after they oficially released it, its almost as good as a spotlight, since after all spotlight is built in so it probably will be better.
well i like apple too, but i think they should stop ripping people off as much, don’t forget that apple does things not to benefit people but to make the money.
if you read reviews on intel they are redesigning the architecture years after amd did, also if you read reviews intel v amd, amd does a far better job including perfermance for value.
still i think they should not released panther and give a free upgrade, and then a major upgrade to tiger, but aw wate they woudln’t make as much money.
about linux kicking xp ass ofcourse, but so does it kick tigers ass in some aspects, especially in server department, dont forget that apple is based on three kernels which make it far slower in servers.
and also there are other faults with apple system which windows is infact better at, buts that not from me, thats from my friend whos got a dual g5 and he uses osx and xp.
i could put it in russian of you wanted me to:P
hold on confused, and yet you still didnt answer the question hmm
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i love reading the windows users posts
the crude spelling errors and pig english
do we really want these people using macs
Say what you like, but Macs coming preloaded with Windblows is a mind numbing mistake. The reality is – more hardware running more copies of Windoze.
Apple is such a micromanager of how and where its products are sold I just can’t, or don’t want to, believe that they’ve sanctioned this move by authorized resellers.
Pardon me, I have to go throw up.
Macsnob:
Have you ever stopped to think that the reason some posts have grammatical errors is because those writing them don’t use english as their first language?
Please realize that these people might actually be even more educated than you give them credit for.
thank you Infomercials 😀
Batman and Robin:
1. PPC was developed because the theory years ago was that this technology had greater potential than what was being promoted with Intel chips.
2. Time moves on and knowledge increases.
3. Intel’s chips made outstanding technological advances over PPC. Kudos for Intel. Dell, Sony, and all “Intel Inside” consumers can take absolutely no credit for what Intel has developed independently, although they have all benefited from Intel’s advances.
4. The true scholar (and smart businessman) rejoices in the discovery of his mistakes and makes amends. A stupid person would continue to use PPC even when PPC’s technological prowess is demonstrably limited. Kinda like your limited thinking..
5. Apple makes the move to Intel when the promise of PPC proves unreachable. If you want to blame anyone for the failure of PPC, blame Motorola for its inability to exploit PPC, not Apple.
6. Now, let’s look at Microsoft. Longhorn lies rotting on the prairie and Vista is delayed yet again. Hmmm. Repeated failures, continual delays. Are these the qualities of a company that is competent, organized, and focused? I suppose that you would since you both share similar profound intellectual deficiencies and indolence.
7. “You want the truth, you can’t handle the truth.” If you can’t make history like Apple, I suppose that the only thing you can do is misrepresent it.
8. Shame, shame, shame on you. You can’t even lie convincingly.
MacZelot:
>>1. theory years ago… 2. Time moves on and knowledge increases.
Yes, but the genius is in seeing the future and picking the right horse to back. Even when Apple switched it was obvious that there were economic factors that would work against PPC’s success, but Y’know Apple just had to Think Different.
>>3. … Kudos for Intel. Dell, Sony, and all “Intel Inside” consumers can take absolutely no credit for what Intel has developed independently….
When you have a lot of customers buying the product and paying you a lot of money, you are incentivized to invest in R&D for that product line. When you have competitors supplying similar processors, you are incentivised to improve. I’ll bet you if all those makers hadn’t backed the Intel horse, those advances wouldn’t have happened. I’ll bet if they all started shipping Windows NT workstations with PPC inside (Which was doable, as Windows NT for PPC existed) then PPC would be where Intel is today.
Frankly Apple became just not an interesting enough customer to Motorola for Motorola to continue development.
>>>4. The true scholar (and smart businessman) rejoices in the discovery of his mistakes and makes amends. … Kinda like your limited thinking..
And a brilliant businessman evaluates the facts and makes the right judgement calls ahead of his competition not behind them.
A Deceitful person would be saying one thing one day and another the next to induce people to buy their products.
The most interesting psychological attribute of a MacZelot is the ability to ignore this and continue.
Look up “social proof” particularly in how it pertains to doomsday cults and what they do when the doomsday prediction doesn’t come true. You’d think the members would feel betrayed and desert the cult. Instead they try to find ways to hold their reality together.
The similarity between this and Mac customers in face of Apple’s ever changing positions on the “Goodness” and “Badness” of things is striking. Not saying that Apple is a cult, but a lot of the same mechanisms are at work in people’s minds, the cult situation just provides a compelling example of how it works.
>>5. Apple makes the move to Intel when the promise of PPC proves unreachable.
Yes, right up until that switch was made, Jobs was preaching the “Truth” of PPC supremacy, long after he clearly didn’t beleive it himself.
Maczelots everywhere were defending the PPC long after it was obvious to everyone else that there was nothing worth defending.
Then Jobs switches everyone to Intel, and people now start pointing out is “Brilliance” for finally getting what the rest of the PC industry knew a decade or so back. Again, see the comment above on how people rationalize changes to their belief systems.
>>6. Now, let’s look at Microsoft. Longhorn lies rotting on the prairie
Yes, with 90%+ of the market, it’s rotting along quite nicely.
Vista is delayed yet again.
Yep.
competent, organized, and focused?
Who ever said that? But they sure are successful despite all their faults.
>>I suppose that you would since you both share similar profound intellectual deficiencies and indolence.
Profound intellectual deficicies? What evidence do you have to support that? Because I disagree with you? Well, that would almost seem to confirm the opposite.
>>7. “You want the truth, you can’t handle the truth.” If you can’t make history like Apple, I suppose that the only thing you can do is misrepresent it.
Yep, Make history! I’m really Jealous of Apple. I’m sure as Bill Gates counts his billions he’s Jealous of Steve Job’s billions (plural) too..
No, he knows who’s won that pissing contest.
Apple did make history with the first mass market PC, with the first reasonably mass market commercially available GUI and the most commercially sucessful MP3 player yet(although others of course invented these things) but Apple for all it’s talents shows a suprising inability to consistantly execute over it’s 30 years.
>>8. … You can’t even lie convincingly.
Where’s the lie. Most of what I’ve pointed out is historical fact with which you agree and the rest is just an opinion as to the future. look up lie in the dictionary…
A false statement deliberately presented as being true.
Without disbelief of what I say on my part, there can be no lie.
It makes me sad that people are paying money for Windows XP. Just download it instead:
http://seedler.org/en/html/info/524685
Sheesh.
Andrew, you totally get it and I’m with you. These other people obviously hate Apple, since they seem to hate Boot Camp, which Apple put a lot of hard work into. I love my MacBook Pro whether it’s running Windows XP or Mac OS X.
“Embrace and extinguish”
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
In your dreams, bubble boys.
Andrew;
The incoherent writings of Ted Kaczynski and John Hinckley are more lucid and well-structured than the paranoid babblings that you post. Apparently, the tin foil hat that you wear protects you from Steve Job’s evil mind control waves emanating secretly from Apple’s online website and emitted subliminally during his keynote addresses.