Dvorak: Apple needs to make Mac OS X open-source

“A cloud is rising over Mac OS X and its future unless Apple makes its boldest move ever: turning OS X into an open-source project. That would make the battle between OS X and Linux the most interesting one on the computer scene. With all attention turned in that direction, there would be nothing Microsoft could do to stem a reversal of its fortunes,” John Dvorak writes for PC Magazine. Boot camp is a “carefully orchestrated test-marketing scheme” that’s divided into three steps, according to Dvorak:

Step 1: Testing for level of interest – Will it sell more Macs?
Step 2: Determining functionality without risk – Does Windows work on a Mac without Apple’s support?
Step 3: Blowback analysis – Is the reaction from the Mac community and others positive or negative?

Dvorak writes, “So far, everything seems to be going well except for the blowback, which seems to be mixed but mostly positive. Much of the positive reaction, though, seems to stem from the mistaken supposition that having Windows on a Mac will make OS X look better by comparison, so people will flock to OS X. This is a dubious and dangerous conclusion for Mac heads to draw.”

Dvorak writes, “If the Windows test keeps going the way it’s going, the results may indicate that Mac users are more likely to shift to Windows than we used to think. But what will happen to Mac OS X? I suspect that the testing of Windows on a Mac might be duplicated in reverse, with a similar test of the Mac OS X running on a conventional PC… [If] Microsoft perceives this as a threat to its business… Microsoft’s stance alone may prevent any universal acceptance of OS X on the desktop from ever happening. In fact, I assume that as this is being written, Microsoft has coders in its skunk works tearing into OS X looking for deep flaws that it can exploit and publicize. Don’t think otherwise. It only makes sense that they’d do this. Thus a cloud is rising over OS X and its future unless Apple makes its boldest move ever: turning OS X into an open-source project.”

Full article here.

MacDailyNews Take: Apple needs to give away free Macs to people who turn in their Dells, HPs, Gateways, etc. Apple has billions and billions of dollars to finance such a move. That would eliminate the cloud rising over Apple’s future and it would be Apple’s boldest move ever: even bolder than making Mac OS X open-source. Do that and there would be nothing Microsoft could do to stem a reversal of its fortunes. Also, Apple should turn the company cafeteria into a roller derby rink and start a worldwide league with teams and merchandise and concessions and everything! That would be really, really cool, huh, John?

Hey, we can throw stuff all around to see what sticks, too!

On a serious note, believe it or not, Dvorak’s not completely and totally nuts: if Microsoft ever does feel threatened, expect them to play some really, really, really dirty pool. Imagine if Apple took the Darwine route (run Windows apps on a Mac without Windows) with Mac OS X 10.5 Leopard – forget about sweaty dancing, chair throwing, and f-bombs, Ballmer’s bald head would pop right off like a Dandelion. Even if, after some time with both operating systems, people just determine for themselves that they want Mac OS X to boot over Windows, then realize they can do without Windows altogether and start telling their friends, the sirens will start blaring in Redmond. Mediocresoft won’t concede too much more share without a nasty fight. We expect Mafiasoft’s first step would be to motivate their willing accomplices in the press to begin a real smear campaign of Apple and the Mac. As Dvorak suggests, they’ll try much worse if and when that tactic fails. We hope Apple’s prepared.

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70 Comments

  1. Dvorak saying that’s what Apple should do is about all the motivation Apple needs to not even consider it…

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  2. I hate slow news days. Between Dvorak and his clones boot camp has been beaten to a pulp with third grade hypothesis. Why when Apple has made most of it’s money in the last 9 years by thinking different, would it concede to a company that stabbed them in the back. Dvorak, maybe you’re one of those in the media we need to be aware of?

  3. He is an idiot.

    Microsoft is a software company. As far as they are considered, more Boot Camp Mac sales = More XP sales.

    This is not an issue about war or threat to or from MS.

    Users who buy a MacIntel in order to have the “backup” option of running XP are unlikely to ever give up XP entirely. Therefore, Microsoft does NOT lose. Virtual PC is a money pit for them. If Apple bears the expense of development of virtualization (in Leopard, and possibly with an acquisition of Parallels, Inc), then Microsoft gets to sell XP to Mac users without any other development costs for platform migration.

    It’s a total win for Microsoft. All you people who think that MSFT is going to wage war are idiots.

  4. IF, IF, IF…

    More wild speculation from a very vocal

    and notorious Mac hater. Typical Dvorak

    doom and gloom. Apple will not lose market

    share, nowhere to go but up! even if they make

    no gains, Apple is still a healthy outfit, even with

    no iPods. They survived the mid 90’s, and have

    a much better product now in hardware and software.

    Dvorak has predicted Apple’s imminent demise

    handfuls of times. He has a bad record in his

    “prophecies”, yet people still read his swill.

    He makes me shudder.

  5. Does this guy really BELIEVE this drivel he’s spewing?

    Man… I know several people who bought the intel Macs, with the idea of using bootcamp to help them “transition” and once they got OS X booted up, they never looked back. They were surprised everything just “worked” and one even said he was in “nirvana” when he hooked a printer up holding the driver disc in his hand only to realize it worked better on the Mac WITHOUT loading the factory drivers then it ever did on his windows box. None of the folks I know who’ve switched have even seriously thought about windows since the transition.

    Anyone who buys a mac and adds windows via boot camp and stays in windows is simply a glutton for punishment.

    “MDN Magic Word”=actually

    As in… Does Dvorak ACTUALLY have a brain and has he ACTUALLY USED Mac OS X?

  6. That’s it. I just dumped This Week in Tech from my weekly podcasts. Dvork is a complete ass. I encourage everyone else to dump TWIT if you are still listening to this podcasst. The guys at TWIT should dump this guy, but he has taken over the show minutes and it will be hard to get rid of a blowhard like him. Diggnation kicks their butt anyway.

  7. Dvorak: ever hear of Darwin?

    MDN’s take:
    if Microsoft ever does feel threatened, expect them to play some really, really, really dirty pool.

    MS is still figuring out how to put their cue stick together (Vista).

    MS can try to play as dirty as they want; every major world government is closely watching their every move. MS’s only revenge option is to chalk up their cue & win through good straight shooting, something that’s very alien to them.

    Somehow it’s easy to picture cool, smooth Jobs shutting out bald, fat Ballmer in a pool match any day. =)

  8. “Does Dvorak ACTUALLY have a brain and has he ACTUALLY USED Mac OS X?”

    It doesn’t matter, the anti-Mac brain block is too etched into his psyche

    (and his ego too large) for him to ever acknowledge OS X supremacy.

    MDN magic word “given” – Dvorak has “given” his will to M$

    He probably wishes Windows had no competition at all,

    can you imagine how bad it would be then?

  9. “I assume that…Microsoft has coders in its skunk works tearing into OS X looking for deep flaws that it can exploit and publicize.”

    You can also safely assume that Microsoft have coders in their “innovation center” next door to the skunk works, taking OS X apart and “borrowing” what they can to try to salvage Vista… Frankenstein’s monster…

  10. first off mac os x can’t be open source. no way because OS itself is very expensive investment, Apple has throw a lot of money to develop. now everybody knows mac os x is the best OS in the planet. plus it is major desicive fact for apple last destiny. so they will hold it tight. however nobody think the scenario which MS will be faced with difficult situation just like mid-90s what Apple used to be. it is possible. MS has suffered from development of windows vista which even is delayed more now. they’re finally out of idea and end up with what they paid for which copied mac os x. you never know how IT world will be changed. MS is not forever. someday they will be small or split up or windows will be passed behind the history.

    by the way, for public open source idea seems to be good but it’s not helping Apple at all. mac os x is different from linux since they both have been each way to be developed.

    if you use mac os x, you will never go back to windows. it’s true. I hope that Drovak(?) will have a chance to meet mac in real life (just don’t talk about mac without experience, stupid head!)

  11. This must be one of the most dumb Dvorak pieces ever, and that means a lot…
    MDN’s take is also utter crap.
    What a load of crap, actually, this entry in MDN’s slow Monday…

    OS X is already open-source, at least Darwin is. Besides, there’s tons of open source under OS X (Apache, MySQL, etc.)

    This is just torlling for hits, a moron that knows nothing (and never did) and MDN falling for his trap, what a load of fscking crap…

    Gives us some substance, not that bulshit…

  12. RE: ” In fact, I assume that as this is being written, Microsoft has coders in its skunk works tearing into OS X looking for deep flaws that it can exploit and publiciz”

    Dvorak, you must be kidding.

    From your vast storehouse of technical knowledge, please just tell me how MS software engineers could possibly accomplish that when they can’t get Vista out on time, and have thousands of viruses on the various flavors of existing Windows operation systems.

    You would love OSX to be Open Source so that the MS software engineers could to a “cut and paste” to create the next Windows.

    And you think that someone smart enough to create OSX is going to bite on that one?

    Tell me what I am missing here. Awaiting your response…………..

  13. What’s this “Mac users are going to switch to Windows!” misguided bullshit that I’ve been reading from Dvorak and Enderle lately? What are they basing that assumption on? Do they really think we Mac users haven’t been exposed to Windows, don’t know what the fsck it is, and when we finally see it for the very first time, we’ll all see the light and switch?

    Umm, guys, if we wanted to use Windows, we would have bought a PC with Windows and a bag of chips from the 7-11. The fact that we use Macs means that we don’t WANT to use Windows, we have gone out of our way NOT to use Windows, because WE DON’T LIKE WINDOWS. So why on earth would we “switch” to it just because the Mac can now boot into it?

    Are Linux users “switching” to Windows just because their beige homebuilt towers and their super-l33t blacklight Dellianwares can boot into Windows?

    People who use something other than Windows do so because they made a CHOICE not to use something better. The ability to run Windows isn’t something new to us. We could always run it if we wanted to, on pretty much any piece of junk we
    found in alley. We’ve seen it. We’ve used it. We know it. It’s that ugly, unstable OS that never changes. Boy I can’t wait to drop OS X for that!

  14. Bootcamp has already made a change in the education market – my school never has to buy another PC again and schools tied into their local education district’s love of windows can go the apple route and still keep the government boys happy. This has already happened with one school near to mine and others are contemplating it.

    As long as Apple keeps on making great software for MacOS, they don’t have to worry about people only ever running Windows on their macs. Have you ever tried Windows Movie Maker?????

    Now, if they just bought Adobe/Macromedia….

  15. I’ve been reading Dvorak since Infoworld was still a pulp-paper, wait-for-it-in-the-mail subscription. Back then, he was an “elite” computer user and he resented the Mac because it was a “WIMP” computer (Windows, Icons, Mouse, Pull-down menus). The Mac made computing accessible to mere mortals and reduced Dvorkak’s competitive edge he had in being able to use a command line-based computer.

    Dvorak was a complete moron then and much of what he writes is a metric ton of military grade bullonium.

    What everyone needs to do is stop reading his collumns and he’ll dry up and blow away because he can’t do anything else productive for the human race except deomstrate how stupid he is.

  16. Why would a pro-microsoft guy want to do something to harmful to microsoft? I don’t trust this guy and believe that he is anti-Apple and is somewhat fearful of Apple at the moment.

    – Mark

  17. Would there really be more than 2% of Mac users who have never used Windows? John, we KNOW Windows already but we CHOSE Macintosh. The migration to Windows from Boot camp would Ultra-negligible, and even then they would have Mac hardware. Are they really going to ignore the iLife apps they already own and are one option key away?

    But there must be about 80% of Windows users who have never used a Macintosh. So, even if a small percentage of them move to Mac it could double the installed base.

    Plus, sales lead to more sales – friends want what friends buy, students want what schools buy, employees want what companies buy. As more friends, schools and companies buy Macs, more sales still will come. Boot camp is enabling this foot in the door.

  18. The bigger Apple gets, the more creative the PC hard-ons have to get to paint a gloomy picture. (I mean, COME ON now, Rising cloud knells?!?!) Keep covering your ears and closing your eyes every time OS X pops up in front of you – because a cloud IS rising over Windowsland. And it’s got an Apple logo on it.

  19. I don´t think a lot of “Mac heads” realize yet that Steve has a new vision for Apple. What it is I don´t have a crystal ball, but I think he is realizing its time to shake the dice and gamble on some new direction. Making the iPod work on Windows was a major step and bolstered Steve not to ignore the 96-98% of the computer market, but try a new direction.
    In a year from now lots of the “Mac heads” will be going “what the hell happened?” as Apple embraces the Windows crowd.
    First Intel chips in Macs to standardize with the Windows world, then Windows on a Mac… everything is converging away from a “go it alone” attitude of the past.

  20. People that want a cheap-ass computer will always be directed to buy a pc running Windows. Who’s got $300.00 for a computer (or one for free). Cha-ching for Windows.

    Anyone that has been a Mac user will CONTINUE to be a Mac user (the base 3-5+%). None of those people are going to experience an epiphany and switch to Windows – that just is NEVER going to happen. They have had the experience and KNOW why they use a Mac.

    The higher end PC buyer will consider the Mac because it runs Windows too – they can play and check it out. Plus Apple has status that MS can’t touch.

    Apple is going to come out ahead. NOT Microsoft.

    This article if just MS FUD.

    That is my theory and it’s mine too.

  21. Does he really think that Apple is going to cut their own throats?? OS X and the experience provided by OS X (just works) is the differentiator in a sea of me-too-pc’s for Apple. While Apple do make classy looking hardware, at the end of the day, “its the OS, stupid”.

    Any person I know that has considered a move to Mac’s has done so for the ‘whole-widget’ approach and the promise of a better computing environment. NOT because of the hardware, but usually IN SPITE of it. Keep in mind that we are all techs in the PC industry and are well capable of putting together a PC for 1/3rd the cost that blows the Mac out of the water spec-wise.

    The general cry is ‘Id love a Mac, ESPECIALLY now they can dual-boot, but they are too bloody expensive’. Just to give you an idea, once we pay local sales tax and get ripped by the local Apple distributer, an iMac costs us ~US$2025 (v’s US$1699). PowerMacs and laptops are even worse, costing US$500 or more extra locally. Coupled to that, the margins for those RRP’s are so low that there is NO discounting so whereever you go, you can pretty much expect to pay retail.

    Now couple that to the fact that the iMac is effectively a non-upgradeable box from our point of view. Sure, a bit more RAM and different hdd are possible, but the other important part in the equation is the video card. None of us are hardcore gamers, but we expect to be able to run the latest and greatest games acceptably and so video cards are upgraded more often than anything else.

    The mini, as a complete consumer machine, isnt an option. The iMac is an AIO and the PowerMacs are too damned expensive (coupled to which, its cripplingly expensive upgrading to the very limited number of Mac compatible video cards available compared the to PC).

    Before you tell me video cards arent that important, just look at Aperture. More and more s/w will become GPU dependant over time, not less. I knew this 3 years ago when i brought a Powermac, specifically to gain video card upgradability. If I were one of the iMac owners who brought at the end of the lifecycle with a FX5200 embedded, Id be spitting tacks right now!

    Please, Apple, give us a PowerMac-Mini!!! It only needs one or two expansion slots (if any in addition to a slot for the video card), but with at least 2 drive bays and preferably onboard hardware level mirroring.

    Anyway, to bring this to an end, without OS X, Apple is just another PC manufacturer. I like the elegance and design of Apple hardware, but it really is only shelf-level componentry for the most part. OS X is Apple’s selling point. If you open-source it, or sell it to run on generic whitebox, then Apple’s hardware divison will get very small, very quick.

  22. Dvorak is more right than he is wrong in this case.

    There’s no doubt in my mind that Microsoft has been testing OS X since the announcement that Apple was moving to the Intel platform. What would happen if they released a virtualization that would run OS X on a Windows machine? Any of those ‘curious’ Windows users would have no reason to switch to a Mac – and since Apple, so far, has not licensed OS X for any PC, all of those OS X virtualizations would be running free, hacked copies and Apple would be losing out on that revenue. Game over and Apple remains a small marketshare.

    This is NOT a hardware war. Since the move to Intel, there is not very much difference.

    The one thing that Dvorak is worng about is making OS X open source. That would ensure the OS X install base would become fragmented – not good.

    Apple needs to license OS X for qualifying PC’s – THAT would be a threat to Microsoft that they could not stop!

    …and Apple would make Billions!

  23. Triplehead:

    “…Microsoft has been testing OS X since the announcement that Apple was moving to the Intel platform.”

    Seriously? After five plus years and no Longhorn and a much delayed Vista you think Microsoft has the resources and know-how to develop an OS X emulator? Good ganja ya got there, peewee.

  24. Dvorak says- “no company, including massive IBM, has been able to compete with or unseat Microsoft from the desktop”

    To that, I say-

    The only company that can unseat Microsoft from the desktop is not IBM, it’s not Sun, not Red Hat, not even Apple folks.

    It’s Microsoft itself. Apple is just “playing it by ear,” so to speak. Microsoft is doing the rest.

    Hardcore Windows users are just as tubborn as hardcore Mac users. These are not the target. The target are those who are essentially clueless, and buy according to the prevailing wind.

    Right now, the wind favors Apple. But that could change in a jiffy.

    I, personally, am waiting for the next great computing breakthrough: OS agnostic computing. And don’t expect it from either Microsoft or Apple.

  25. Triplehead? MS makes money & maintains it’s hold over the computer industry by selling Windows. What if they did what you said. How exactly do they make money from this? They don’t sell hardware. What if people started running OSX instead of Windows? Do you think they would take that chance? Nonsense.

  26. With cheaper intel chips, they could lower the mac mini price to something competitive (and please don’t tell me it already is because of the added software, better OS, blah, blah etc. Thank you.) So then it won’t cost too much for business to shell out at upgrade time.

    Get MS programs to run natively on the mac. And I think then you’ve got something.

    Well the hardest thing would be to get IT to go along with this. Then you would have something.

    Robinz also has a decent point regarding a PM mini. A few bays etc. Most don’t really need this, but for those who do it would be nice.

    I read way too many posts on people stating that they would get a MacBook Pro when the time came, just because they could run windows too. And I believe that these people were MS users.

    Probably way too far down on these posts for anyone to read. If you have, then thanks.

  27. Actually, if Apple released OLDER versions for free, that would make sense. When 10.5 comes out, 4 months later make 10.4 available for free but with no support from Apple. Application support will be hit and miss, but its free, so, why complain? iLife could check to make sure its only running on Apple hardware.

    It would be an easy way to get a lot of gamers and such to use OS X for real stuff….

  28. News ancherperson: “And now, here’s today’s weather report from Channel 1’s resident weatherman; John Dvorak.”

    Dvorak: “Well folks, I just looked out my window at a clear blue sky. It’s going to rain.”

  29. The problem isn’t just software. Too many company websites will operate only on Windows IE or Netscape. Really really retarded. Until those companies change over their sites, people still need to use Windows. That is the only reason why my dad has not gotten a mac.

    I mean come on… look at yahoo! The music videos streams only work on Windows which is bull.

  30. All this from a man who once said the computer mouse would never catch on. It was his first error when predicting the fate of the Mac, the first of many.

    Microsoft has already been bankrolling their Anti Virus Software friends to probe OS X and release Malware for the Mac. We all know how ineffectual that has been.

    Now he wants Apple to give away the crown jewels. He just doesn’t realize that Apple has the safest, stablest, most secure way to run Windows apps. Using Windows in virtualization mode on a Mac. Once Leopard is released all hell will break loose in the Windows world.

    It won’t be a pretty sight but it will be a lot of fun.

  31. Windows XP Virtualization/Boot in Leopard. People are setting up Parallel but will have to trash it and reinstall XP with Leopard. Bootcamp users need only install Leopard if XP is already installed.

    This will be like Darwine but Virtualization won’t offer full native speed…it will share the duo processors. Booting will offer full speed.

    Balmer/Gates realize this is the route Apple is going. What it does mean is that a whole bunch more XP/Vista OS’s will sell and a significant crapload of Office 12’s will sell even more.

    So are they concerned? Sure. A little. Should they be more? I think so. Why aren’t they as worried yet? Well, like Dell, HP, IBM and many others, after taking the consumer market, they have all found there is far, far more money to be made in the business sector. Why? In the PC world, Windows/Office is ripped illegally millions upon millions of times each year – for consumer use. Business software commands much more money and is illegally distributed far less. Look at all Microsofts Server/SQL/Business Intelligence, developer software (and a whole whack more).

    More Mac business users will buy the Windows version than the Mac version to get things like OWC (Office Web Components), IE (I hate this but the only browser doing ActiveX which is becoming a large part of anything in the Business Intelligence community), etc.. It will be interesting to see how this impacts the Mac Business Unit at Microsoft.

    The problem is that I believe with Virtualization in Leopard, we will see the year of the “Big Switch” – Windows users migrating to Macs in LARGE volumes….again, on the consumer side. And why not? Dual Boot allows for the play of games while Virtualization gives the use of Windows Office – the only two major reasons holding up switching today. This could render the MBU at MS useless.

    However, as Mac’s consumer market share increase, the pendelum swings and soon gamers will want Mac native games. Mac will become the entertainment hub for music/video/games. As that happens, the MBU at MS will by then have found how to make Office on a Mac work seemlessly with MS business software. When that happens, Mac Office will take off big time.

    Needless to say, the next 2 years are going to be fun!

  32. With cheaper intel chips, they could lower the mac mini price to something competitive (and please don’t tell me it already is because of the added software, better OS, blah, blah etc. Thank you.) So then it won’t cost too much for business to shell out at upgrade time.

    The Mac mini is about $150 cheaper and has better specs than the piece-of-shit Lenovo desktops my company leases for everyone. I’d say $599 is EXTREMELY competitive for a corporate desktop.

  33. Apple doesn’t have to do anything as they are right on course with Leopard to gain major market share as VIsta falls apart. I’m sure Boot camp is only one small bomb that Apple has dumped on Microsoft but they haven’t seen nothing yet. It’s Microsoft that really needs to do something drastic as there the ones without an operating system right now.

  34. @RobInNZ – “Please, Apple, give us a PowerMac-Mini!!! It only needs one or two expansion slots (if any in addition to a slot for the video card), but with at least 2 drive bays and preferably onboard hardware level mirroring.”

    This would be The Holy Grail for me. I would LOVE to have an ULTRA small tower PowerMac (MacPro?) with 2 HD bays (Super D already included in the package), 1 slot for a graphics card so I can upgrade it, and easy access to the RAM for upgrading as well. That’s it. I think it would sell like a MF, but may sell TOO well and interfere with Apples Comsumer/Pro desktop sales model. This is EXACTLY THE MACHINE I would want from Apple though.

    And yes, I’m sure they would come up with an amazing industrial design for it as well……………..

  35. Some MS History for those who insist on looking at Boot Camp through rose colored glasses…

    History Note 1: Windows for Workgroups was product that MS designed specifically to keep people from using 3rd party DOS’s and networking products…Although Winsock ended up being most successful on this product. Oh yeah WIN ’95 shutdown winsock. What do you think TUCOWS stands for? Cows? MS is known for “updating” their software to shutdown things like Bootcamp.

    History note 2: Back when the feds were coming down on MS about the anti-trust stuff, people suggested that Windows should become Open Source. And get this….a standards body lke ANSI should take over the Windows spec.

    History Note 3: According to Stacker higher ups, when MS wanted to include Stacker in a release of old DOS/Windows. MS invited them over and dictated a price per unit to them. When the Stacker folks refused MS gave them a presentation on how much business they would lose if MS implemented their own stacker in Windows, doublespace. Famous law suit.

    History Note 4: Virtual PC worked so well MS bought them. To make sure that product stayed slow as a slug.

    Lessons learned:
    1) Everybody say hello to MS’s new subsidary Parallel.
    2) At some point Vista will be patched to fix a security problem, and it will cease to be compatible with Bootcamp. Either not booting at all or removing OS X from the picture. Ppl that do not upgrade will never be able to patch Vista from that point forward. This is historically how MS plays “dirty pool”.
    3) Steve Jobs does not drink the open source kool aid, and is able to keep Apple open as a viable business.
    4) Darwine will be the only long term Apple/MS solution on Apple hardware. Until MS figures out how to buy them.

  36. Previously, Dvorak said that Apple will drop OS X and switch to Windows exclusively. Now, he’s saying that Apple should open source OS X. Ok, if he’s going to be right about one of them, I’ll vote for open sourcing OS X. I’d love to see the Linux kernel running OS X rather than the XNU kernel that Apple currently uses.

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