“My Non Disclosure Agreement (NDA) with Apple precludes me from revealing proprietary detail, but because most, if not all, of this is posted elsewhere and is commonly available, I have no problems with confirming the following,” “technosaints” writes on the OSx86 Project Forum.
Some highlights of “technosaints” long list:
• During the Leopard install, you are given the option to create specific partitioning to accommodate M$ Vista and Linux. Reformatting your HD is not required. Depending on your processor and RAM, all OS’s can run simultaneously & independently. A (minimum) 150 GB HD is required (250 GB is recommended), and 2 GB RAM (minimum) should you wish to run more than one OS. Dual processors are required for optimum performance, though this may change in 10.5.1 or 10.5.2.
• The Dock will be much different. One new feature is that as icons are added, they will automatically migrate/expand around the screen as needed (or, you can reduce the size of the icons as presently done). Also, multiple docks are an option as is the amount of “bounce” desired in those dock apps launching or needing your attention. There is an accompanying bounce sound, a boing-boing sort of thing.
• Hooks are built-in to support an Apple PDA, but I can say no more.
• You can have 3 ‘Finder’ windows open simultaneously, much like having 3 displays, all running different applications or OS’s. If networked, any 3 computers can be displayed. Depending on the function/application, you can even Drag & Drop between displays.
• Mail, Address Book, iCal, iSight, and iChat will become one integrated application, much like Entourage (but better).
• An across the board speed increase of 35 – 40%.
• Sherlock has been eliminated (use Widgets instead).
• Numerous (other) bug fixes, including a totally rewritten Spotlight.
“Leopard will be previewed in June at the WWDC and released in early November,” “technosaints” writes. However, Apple is scheduled to hold World Wide Developers Conference (WWDC 2006) in August, not June.
Much more in the full OSx86 Project Forum post here.
[Thanks to MacDailyNews Reader “gwm” for the heads up.]
MacDailyNews Note: This a post from a forum and a RUMOR. Take it with many grains of salt.
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Hot damn. I wants to get me some.
” Hooks are built-in to support an Apple PDA, but I can say no more.”
Origami done right.
Dang, I can’t wait!
Is this OS only for Intel Macs?
Leo
• Mail, Address Book, iCal, iSight, and iChat will become one integrated application, much like Entourage (but better).
When did iSight became an application??
“Sherlock has been eliminated (use Widgets instead)”
Alas poor Sherlock. I knew him, Watson.
W.S.
And it will wash your car too!
drool…..
Sounds reasonable……oh, and I’m also getting excited about the Vista launch in 2007, or 08.
Taking this with a grain of salt is an understatement. I’d say this is totally fake!
1. What business reason would Apple allow you to dual boot? Wouldn’t it be a better idea to make customers pay extra to have this happen? Reasoning: the support costs for this could be huge, and the functionality goes against their concept of “easy to use”.
2. Why would you want a dock to go around the screen – this hasn’t been seen in any Linux distributions so I doubt it’ll happen.
3. PDA won’t happen when Palm can barely stay afloat, and they had the market basically sewn up.
4. You can do this with Finder today! Woohoo!
5. Might happen, but why would you add iSight?
6. I take performance increase statistics with a grain of salt until proven otherwise.
7. Sherlock’s been useless since 10.4 came out. Has anyone tried using it recently? Half the functionality just doesn’t work anymore, so nothing new there.
8. Why rewrite Spotlight? It works, it’s faster than anything else similar to it, so I highly doubt it. It’s probably the reason we don’t have Google Toolbar.
Rumor? Not!
What kind of “hooks” can be built into an OS? Is he talking about the iMac?
Ok half of that makes no sense to me but I don’t want all those apps combined into one…
I only use Mail and occasionally iCal, why combine all the others to create a slower app loading things I don’t use?
PS Apple should release a version of Journler, that app rocks.
They’re putting in support for the Newton…?
I have a hard time believing this stuff, not because it is’nt possible (they would be easy for Apple), or undesirable (in fact, these features would be absolutely fantastic). Rather, because of that oppening statement:
“My Non Disclosure Agreement (NDA) with Apple precludes me from revealing proprietary detail, but because most, if not all, of this is posted elsewhere and is commonly available, I have no problems with confirming the following,”
First, why would OSx86 have an NDA with Apple? And NDA allows this?
And where exactly was all this “posted elsewhere” stuff?
While I hope Leopard gets these nifty additions, I just can’t believe the source of the rumor. Just my take.
Damn! I got wood and didn’t even take my little blue pill!
I definitely call BS on this one.
“Is this OS only for Intel Macs?
Leo”
I would assume that this will be the last version to run on PowerPC and Intel. The Windows Vista features will obvisouly not be included in the installation on PowerPC due to the fact that Windows doesn’t run on PowerPC chips.
I don’t know what he’s been smoking but I want some.
This is obviously a fantasy created by a completely unimaginative person thinking that combining his favorite features of Tiger and WIndows XP will net an innovative OS.
There is NOTHING here that has an Apple feel to it; merely regurgitated functions.
YAAAAWWWNNNN!
That is sooo fake. Ala “I can’t say much, but I will confirm this” *Enter long list of “features”*. If you believe this, you are a sucker.
I smell a fake.
You can see the three screens here.
Of course, you can search for those using the string “10.5 Leopard” on Google images.
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I don’t buy it. If for no other reason, anyone with this knowledge would also know that the WWDC isn’t in June this year.
Leopard (10.5) will NOT be the last Mac OS to support PowerPC Macs. Apple has always, and open states as its policy, that they will support all hardware up to 5 years. In practice, it is more common for Apple to go beyond those 5 years.
Which system should I use to plot my course to the Moon?
Cheers
leo
“Mail, Address Book, iCal, iSight (sic), and iChat will become one integrated application…”
Almost certainly 100% wrong.
“Mail, Address Book, iCal, iSight, and iChat will become one integrated application”
Pardon?. Evertyhing except iSight is software. How are they going to convert a piece of aluminium (hardware) into software in order to bundle it into a big “Entourage but better”. If they do, im going to be they are alchemists or something
Funny, same thing was posted on MacNN’s Forums on April 1st.
http://forums.macnn.com/showthread.php?t=291048
I think it’s pretty safe this was an April Fools joke.
“Mail, Address Book, iCal, iSight, and iChat will become one integrated application, much like Entourage (but better).”
Bleah, what a pile of steaming donkey turds THAT would be…which is also better than Entourage, coincidentally…
One new feature is that as icons are added, they will automatically migrate/expand around the screen as needed (or, you can reduce the size of the icons as presently done).
What does that mean? I can’t make any sense out of it at all?
When you add or remove icons in the Dock as it exists now, it automatically resizes all of the icons in the dock to best fit the screen, so WTF is this guy talking about?
And there is no program called “iSight”. It’s a video camera, not software.
Traffic to this MDN seems to be increasing, its a sign that people are buying iMacs
I’m completely covered in sodium chloride. Eyes burning. Quick, someone get me a giant margarita glass. I want to rub myself on the rim before I lose consciousness.
From the sound of that partition thingy, I’m sick of Apple’s obsession for a bigger pie….
And there it is on April one, alright. Word for word.
anyways .. regarding iSight: It actually does have a software component. Keeps showing up on my Software Update but I don’t have the hardware. iSight Update 1.0.3 980KB
Just a late April Fools joke…
This is so fake it hurts.
I’m also going to need eight gallons of margarita mix, two gallons of tequila, two hundred limes, eighty-six bags of round ice cubes, eight hundred feet of Playtypus Super 100 fishing line, six gallons of kerosene, forty-seven pounds of Silly Putty, thirty-two heads of cabbage, an air chain hoist, seventeen Flamenco dancers, and a large block of goat cheese.
would assume that this will be the last version to run on PowerPC and Intel.
When you assume… Tiger supports the g3, which are 2-9 years old. There is no way they will drop support for g3, g4 and g5 for 10.6, which is probably 2-4 years away.
I’ m highly skeptical of this. Why the factual errors? It doesn’t make sense for a highly informed source or a haox starter. If I were making stuff up I would check some basic facts first, then again if I was working close enough to Apple to know these things I would know that the iSight is hardware and that WWDC is late this year. Strange, very strange.
My thoughts on why this is fake, or possible has some truths, but is mostly fabrication, is from item 3 above. DiskWarrior isn’t a replacement tool for TechTool Pro. DiskWarrior is a directory repair application. Its great at what it does, but it does not check memory and other hardware issues, perform speed tests, etc. That said, I’ve been able to use DiskWarrior to solve issues 75%-85% of the time, without having to escalate to TechTool Pro, but I’d be pretty pissed if I needed to perform a hardware test, and the only tool Apple provided was DiskWarrior.
A nondisclosure agreement that lets you confirm rumors. Puhleez!
“Mail, Address Book, iCal, iSight (sic), and iChat will become one integrated application…”
Makes no sense. I love them as seperate apps, plus they work fantastically together. Entourage is one messy uber app. Better keep them seperate, please.
Well cripes. All we really want to be true is the part about running multiple OSes concurrently, right? And for you guys that say no to be wrong. ahaha.
C’mon. I’m a a tired old man. Plus .. the missus won’t pop for a new Mac for me ’til it’ll run Windows, too.
I wish they would integrate the iApps (iCal etc,)
Bogus, bogus, bogus, bogus, bogus. All bogus.
For the first time an OS makes me want to upgrade my hardware to dual processors….
I feel like homer Simpson….”Mmmmmmm…Dual operating systems”
The redheaded stepchild, Sherlock, has been ignored and abused for some time. RIP
The report does sound questionable, especially given all the discrepancies.
The multi-boot OS thing sounds ludicrous. Tech support alone would kill Apple, especially if it didn’t work as advertised… oh, wait, Apple doesn’t advertise. ;^)
Seriously, ANYthing purporting running Vista directly on a Mac would HAVE to have problems. After all, it’s a Microsoft OS! I would NEVER cripple a Mac running ANY form of Windows on it. Being able to run a Windows app directly, without needing Windows could be desirable for those one-of a-kind business apps people are saddled with running.
Some of the other “rumors” sound pretty desirable, though!
iCal, in it’s present state is a joke. it’s really just a 1.0 with some bug and compatibility fixes. Apple should buy Claris Organizer (now Palm Desktop) back from palm and do a serious overhaul.
Address book isn’t much better. And I wish they would make the mail Pictures easter Egg a standard feature.
http://www.nikwest.de/Software/
Combining iCal and Address Book with Mail seems like an excellent move. If I could selectively Sync it with my Palm and phone, without buying six different utilities (Missing Sync, Blue Phone Elite, etc.) that would be excellent.
Stirring iChat into the mix seems moot, since it links with Mail and the Address Book. I rarely use it, so am not familiar with it’s niceties, though using it for direct file transfers is great!
Anyway, it’s fun hearing and pondering all this stuff. It’s part of what makes the the Mac universe so much fun!
Minimum 150GB HD (recommended 250GB) requirement? Nope, sorry.
I find it interesting how from the beginning days of Mac OS X, we have never seen any info or screenshots of the upcoming OS until Steve took the wraps off of it*. Are we supposed to believe that all of a sudden, all of this info has sprung up? I don’t think so.
*Please correct me if I am wrong.
The redheaded stepchild, Sherlock, has been ignored and abused for some time. RIP
There is no reason to use the above derogatory racial statement. Why is it that Redheaded step children are supposed to be beaten? If I said this about any other group that wasn’t white the ACLU would be sending threatening letters to MDN and pressing for action.
However, a three-headed stepchild would get a sitcom on Fox (“My Three Heads). Or a reality show on MTV (“Date Only One of the Heads on My Step-Child”).
MW: only
some of this sounds great, but really… your nondisclosure agreement allows you to say this. come on.
Ampar, you’re right. Bravo probably has the first episodes ready to roll, they’re just waiting for Sweeps week.
Mail, Address Book, iCal, iSight, and iChat will become one integrated application
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Finally.
Separating the address book from Mail? mental.
Stirring iChat into the mix seems moot, since it links with Mail and the Address Book. I rarely use it, so am not familiar with it’s niceties, though using it for direct file transfers is great!
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Sure.. well.. Apple could buy Adium, but.. er.. you know.. their illegitimate hacking into MS networks is not exactly mainstream..
I don’t touch iChat cuz.. um.. no one uses AOL shit..
Everyone has msn
MDN reporting on forum posts? Does anybody still take you guys seriously?
iCall bullshit on this one. Those r some hefty spec requirments. Most of the products on the market will b shut out if Apple did this.
Not too many ppl r going to b happy or upgrade their hardware to run this thing. Most MACs (iDon’t know about the Intels) cannot be upgraded to 2GB RAM, so what r they suppose to do? Buy new ones… This sounds Microsoftish; it would b stupid to do that.
What they should add to that list is some disk utilities. Whoever said Mac HD don’t get fragmented need to beat down.
“most, if not all, of this is posted elsewhere and is commonly available”
Yeah, right. Most, if not all, of that is brand-new. Brand new fiction.
My Non Disclosure Agreement (NDA) with Apple precludes me from revealing proprietary detail
Then STFU.
</i>but because most, if not all, of this is posted elsewhere and is commonly available, I have no problems with confirming the following</i>
OIOW, “Other people leaked so it’s OK that I leak too”.
First, if it’s non-news and “posted elsewhere”, then why blab about it? People will find the facts soon enough.
And second, confidentiality is confidentiality. If someone else let the cat out, you don’t need to help confirm it.
Moron.
“A (minimum) 150 GB HD is required (250 GB is recommended)”
This means that the Mini’s and all current Mac laptops would not be able to run Mac OSX 10.5 unless between now and the time 10.5 ships someone produces a cheap 2.5″ 200gb hard drive.
So Apple will have two OS’s on the market? 10.5 will be for their high-end equipment and then they will have 10.4 for everything else.
“A (minimum) 150 GB HD is required (250 GB is recommended)”
“This means that the Mini’s and all current Mac laptops would not be able to run Mac OSX 10.5 unless between now and the time 10.5 ships someone produces a cheap 2.5” 200gb hard drive.
So Apple will have two OS’s on the market? 10.5 will be for their high-end equipment and then they will have 10.4 for everything else.”
No! The author was saying that in order to run multiple OS’s you need these hard drive requirements, not to run OS 10.5. Although, I can’t fathom a reason for these requirements for a virtualization scheme.
I couldn’t care less about MS being able to load on a Mac. IT SUCKS. I DON’T WANT IT.
SHOVE WINDOWS UP BALLMER’S ANAL GLAND. Wait, he’d probably LIKE that. Shove it up someone’s anal gland.
Zzzzzzzzzzz……
April fools!
I posted it.
Though if it did allow a partition for Vista, that would take 150 gigs all by itself just to fit the OS’s footprint!
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@ Da Vinci (“Is this OS only for Intel Macs?”):
DON’T EVEN say that!! If Apple releases OS 10.5 Leopard for Intel Macs only I am going to quite possibly be the more angry at a technology company than ever in my life! The ONLY redeeming factory here is that it would provide a good excuse to buy a new Mac… but…………
Hooks are built in? Oooooh. Sounds like fun!
The improvements/innovations mentioned are so good that I hope and pray there is some truth to it. Freaking drool to the integrated communication program. It would be about damn time. Dual boot support for Windows? Sounds like Apple is planning an explosive product aimed squarely at Microsoft. I can’t freaking wait!
This is pretty much on-par with your typical MacDailyNews “information”…
Once again MDN shows the quality of its journalistic integrity by re-publishing another load of crap. But hey, as long as it brings in hits and drives up the advertising revenue, who gives a fuck.
This must be the biggest BS i have ever read plzzz get a life.
another thing. it says it will require a minimum of a 150 gig hardrive. the macbook pro’s max is 120 gig – build to order.
theres no way in the world apple would eliminate people who just bought a macbook pro from getting leopard and using all its features, such as the supposed multi os solution descibed in the entry.
it won’t use sherlock
big dealio
sherlock went out with os-9
To all the above writers who claim “Apple will NEVER support Dual Booting…”
Remmber “Think Different!” and read all about Bootcamp -Dual Booting from Apple for the MacIntels.
Hmmm…. NOW it sounds like this was a legitimate observation!!
Bwwwwwaaaahhahahahahahahahahahah!
Now THAT’S funny! We are soooooooo quick to judge, ain’t we?
LOL
Um… Isn’t WWDC from 7-11 August this year not June? If this wag can’t even get that very public detail correct, how much can we trust the rest of it?
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I guess that to get the business loans from creditors you should have a firm motivation. However, one time I’ve received a commercial loan, just because I was willing to buy a bike.