“The most talked-about cellphone in America is one that doesn’t officially exist: the Verizon iPhone. Ever since the 2007 launch of Apple’s iPhone — which crippled swaths of AT&T’s network — consumers have yearned for a Verizon iPhone as if it were the Second Coming,” Sarah Ellison reports for Fortune.
“When Verizon Wireless, the nation’s largest mobile-phone operator, recently agreed to sell Apple’s iPad tablet bundled with a MiFi card that works on Verizon’s network, tech analysts and media were abuzz with speculation that the real news — the announcement of the much-anticipated Verizon iPhone — was in the offing,” Ellison reports. “‘Apple and Verizon Wireless finally are getting it on. But are there bigger plans in the works?’ tech site Appolicious asked after the companies announced their iPad pact. (The answer: yes. Fortune has confirmed that a Verizon iPhone will be released in early 2011.)”
“That so many Americans covet Verizon iPhones –analysts estimate that Apple could sell 8 million to 9 million of them next year, compared with an estimated 22 million iPhones sold to date in the U.S. — is partly a testament to the efforts of Ivan Seidenberg, who has presided over one or another of Verizon Communications’ predecessor companies since 1995, when he became CEO of Nynex,” Ellison reports. “From that perch Seiden berg has transformed a boring, lumbering, $13-billion-a-year in sales phone company into a technology giant with $108 billion in sales last year.”
Ellison reports, “Now it is Seidenberg who is facing retirement (he will be 65 in December 2011)… Though he sounds a bit wistful about leaving Verizon just as the company is about to enter an exciting new phase, he makes clear that he has no plans to hang around after [Lowell] McAdam takes over some time in 2011. A Knicks fan — he has season tickets — and a moviegoer (he says many of his pop culture references come from the films The Godfather and A Bronx Tale) he’ll probably take in some basketball and see a flick or two. And if he wishes, it is likely he will be checking out the sports scores and movie times on his brand-new Verizon iPhone.”
Full article – recommended – here.
MacDailyNews Take: If you lock yourself into a Fragmandroid wannabe iPhone on Verizon now, you’re officially too stupid to operate a smartphone.
I can almost hear the Android market freezing up…
I can almost hear the Android market freezing up…
At least they’re giving Android one last gasp of a chance by not releasing it till after the holiday season….
At least they’re giving Android one last gasp of a chance by not releasing it till after the holiday season….
The life cycle of the ” Droidopotamus” begins it’s final stages.
The life cycle of the ” Droidopotamus” begins it’s final stages.
They need a real confirmation if they want to kill Android / WP7 Christmas sales
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“Fortune has confirmed that a Verizon iPhone will be released in early 2011.” So, is Fortune confirming the iPhone on Verizon or are they confirming the rumor of a Verizon iPhone. It gets confusing!
“Fortune has confirmed that a Verizon iPhone will be released in early 2011.” So, is Fortune confirming the iPhone on Verizon or are they confirming the rumor of a Verizon iPhone. It gets confusing!
Early 2011 + 24 hours is the day I tell AT&T to kiss my ass once and for all.
just my $0.02
Early 2011 + 24 hours is the day I tell AT&T to kiss my ass once and for all.
just my $0.02
I would have thought that more than 22M iPhones been sold to date in the US. 9M verizon phones would take it over 20M per quarter worldwide.
I hope they can spread it out to all carriers in the US. Not just because more phones can be sold but so that it ends the ridiculous exclusivity that the mobiles like to have. It will then level the playing field and allow true competition for service and pricing.
I would have thought that more than 22M iPhones been sold to date in the US. 9M verizon phones would take it over 20M per quarter worldwide.
I hope they can spread it out to all carriers in the US. Not just because more phones can be sold but so that it ends the ridiculous exclusivity that the mobiles like to have. It will then level the playing field and allow true competition for service and pricing.
I’ve got news for you dip shits… Apple isn’t going to kill the iPhone with a move to Verizon or any other US carrier. Android will continue to give the iPhone real competition. Not because it’s a better phone, but because with every person that loves Apple products there’s at least 4 of them that hate Apple products and will never buy a iPhone. Android is a very viable and logical choice with an excellent product.
I used to work for Apple for 7 years and Apple fans don’t come any bigger. I recently went to work for T-Mobile ,and believe me I want T-Mobile to sell the iPhone as much as anyone, I’ve been forced to buy an Android device (in my case the G2) and I couldn’t be happier with it. While it’s not the elegance of the iPhone it’s got many excellent merits and will be tough for me to go back to my phone call dropping, bluetooth disconnecting iPhone.
The Android system, especially in it’s Google form, is very well designed and is a more capable mobile device than the iPhone! There I said it! Lookout for the flame thrower in 3, 2, 1. Multitasking is much easier and fluid than on the iPhone and I like being able to alter most of a applications preferences in it’s own app rather than going into “system settings” every time. Just a couple of reasons that I like the Android better.
Oh, and by the way. Having Flash 10.1 on my G2 hasn’t hurt the performance or caused any crashes so far. As a matter of fact I have fewer app crashes with the Android than with the iPhone. Example: Weather Bug Elite on the iPhone crashed nearly ever couple of times I opened it and it’s only crashed once on the G2.
Okay, end of my opinion.
I’ve got news for you dip shits… Apple isn’t going to kill the iPhone with a move to Verizon or any other US carrier. Android will continue to give the iPhone real competition. Not because it’s a better phone, but because with every person that loves Apple products there’s at least 4 of them that hate Apple products and will never buy a iPhone. Android is a very viable and logical choice with an excellent product.
I used to work for Apple for 7 years and Apple fans don’t come any bigger. I recently went to work for T-Mobile ,and believe me I want T-Mobile to sell the iPhone as much as anyone, I’ve been forced to buy an Android device (in my case the G2) and I couldn’t be happier with it. While it’s not the elegance of the iPhone it’s got many excellent merits and will be tough for me to go back to my phone call dropping, bluetooth disconnecting iPhone.
The Android system, especially in it’s Google form, is very well designed and is a more capable mobile device than the iPhone! There I said it! Lookout for the flame thrower in 3, 2, 1. Multitasking is much easier and fluid than on the iPhone and I like being able to alter most of a applications preferences in it’s own app rather than going into “system settings” every time. Just a couple of reasons that I like the Android better.
Oh, and by the way. Having Flash 10.1 on my G2 hasn’t hurt the performance or caused any crashes so far. As a matter of fact I have fewer app crashes with the Android than with the iPhone. Example: Weather Bug Elite on the iPhone crashed nearly ever couple of times I opened it and it’s only crashed once on the G2.
Okay, end of my opinion.
So nothing before the holidays?
That’s understandable, because the holiday rush combined with a CDMA iPhone release would overwhelm Verizon stores.
So get hired as a holiday temp at Verizon, work past the holidays. Sounds good.
So nothing before the holidays?
That’s understandable, because the holiday rush combined with a CDMA iPhone release would overwhelm Verizon stores.
So get hired as a holiday temp at Verizon, work past the holidays. Sounds good.
Sweet! Let’s get Sprint and T-Mobile, too.
Sweet! Let’s get Sprint and T-Mobile, too.
WAITAMINUTE. Ellison says that Fortune has confimed the V-iPhone but doesn’t give WHO at Apple or Verizon is the source.
VAPORWARE!!!
Verizon. Getting the iPhone any day now since 2006.
WAITAMINUTE. Ellison says that Fortune has confimed the V-iPhone but doesn’t give WHO at Apple or Verizon is the source.
VAPORWARE!!!
Verizon. Getting the iPhone any day now since 2006.
…ATT
…ATT
@steve32465
I hear you Steve! I personally don’t like smart phones, but being a “open source” type of person, will root for Linux based Android and more user choice over their own machines vs Apple’s walled garden approach any day.
For instance the choice of plug-ins on Safari suck goat puke, there are tens of thousands for Firefox.
iTunes has only 10,000 TV/Movie rentals, Netflix has over 100,000.
Choice is good and neutrality is good.
I do like Apple’s MacBook Pro’s though! Own one myself.
@steve32465
I hear you Steve! I personally don’t like smart phones, but being a “open source” type of person, will root for Linux based Android and more user choice over their own machines vs Apple’s walled garden approach any day.
For instance the choice of plug-ins on Safari suck goat puke, there are tens of thousands for Firefox.
iTunes has only 10,000 TV/Movie rentals, Netflix has over 100,000.
Choice is good and neutrality is good.
I do like Apple’s MacBook Pro’s though! Own one myself.
…and they will launch with the WHITE iPhone in stock, just to be kool.
…and they will launch with the WHITE iPhone in stock, just to be kool.
Don’t bother reading the full article. THERE IS NO CONFIRMATION OF THE V-iPHONE! It just a history of the retireing V-CEO’s failure to get the original iPhone. The only statement about the V-iPhone is this:
“But people familiar with its development say it is a fait accompli.”
NO CONFIRMATION!!!!!!!
Don’t bother reading the full article. THERE IS NO CONFIRMATION OF THE V-iPHONE! It just a history of the retireing V-CEO’s failure to get the original iPhone. The only statement about the V-iPhone is this:
“But people familiar with its development say it is a fait accompli.”
NO CONFIRMATION!!!!!!!
Until Verizon (and/or Apple) make the announcement, I would not hold my breath. Everything is relative, and in that sense, the most recent ‘Verizon iPhone’ rumours tend to sound more authentic than previous ones, but in absolute terms, they are still just rumours. Apple continues to struggle with the existing global demand. They simply don’t yet have a facility out there in China that could suddenly come online and crank out extra two million iPhones per quarter. I really wouldn’t expect it until 2012.
As for the ‘Android’ threat, I have no doubt, us, tech folk, don’t have an issue with its UI. After all, most of it was taken from the iPhone, and the OS logic is founded on a solid core anyway, so features and functionality would clearly appeal to those who don’t have to struggle to understand computer logic.
I have yet to try Android, so I can’t give personal opinion; I can only pass judgment. However, if it is not fully integrated into the iTunes/iLife ecosystem, it is simply a non-starter for me. My life pretty much revolves around iTunes content. Music, videos, podcasts, e-books, apps; it is all in there. If I couldn’t manage my music, podcasts and books from within iTunes with an Android phone, it would simply be a deal-breaker. I currently have an iPod touch (an iTouch, as my family calls it), and a Sony-Ericsson Walkman phone. Oftentimes, I leave the iPod at home. The phone has a media player, however, integration with iTunes is difficult to non-existant. I have had the same music on it for the past five months. It is just way too much hassle to make changes. On the iPod, it is an automated process.
I believe very many people prefer iPhone, among other reasons, for iTunes integration and transparent move from their iPods to the new iPhone. Android simply doesn’t quite cut it that way.
Until Verizon (and/or Apple) make the announcement, I would not hold my breath. Everything is relative, and in that sense, the most recent ‘Verizon iPhone’ rumours tend to sound more authentic than previous ones, but in absolute terms, they are still just rumours. Apple continues to struggle with the existing global demand. They simply don’t yet have a facility out there in China that could suddenly come online and crank out extra two million iPhones per quarter. I really wouldn’t expect it until 2012.
As for the ‘Android’ threat, I have no doubt, us, tech folk, don’t have an issue with its UI. After all, most of it was taken from the iPhone, and the OS logic is founded on a solid core anyway, so features and functionality would clearly appeal to those who don’t have to struggle to understand computer logic.
I have yet to try Android, so I can’t give personal opinion; I can only pass judgment. However, if it is not fully integrated into the iTunes/iLife ecosystem, it is simply a non-starter for me. My life pretty much revolves around iTunes content. Music, videos, podcasts, e-books, apps; it is all in there. If I couldn’t manage my music, podcasts and books from within iTunes with an Android phone, it would simply be a deal-breaker. I currently have an iPod touch (an iTouch, as my family calls it), and a Sony-Ericsson Walkman phone. Oftentimes, I leave the iPod at home. The phone has a media player, however, integration with iTunes is difficult to non-existant. I have had the same music on it for the past five months. It is just way too much hassle to make changes. On the iPod, it is an automated process.
I believe very many people prefer iPhone, among other reasons, for iTunes integration and transparent move from their iPods to the new iPhone. Android simply doesn’t quite cut it that way.
@ steve
You lost me after dip shits… when you insult people right off the bat your point becomes completely mute. Get it? You f’n a$shole.
@ steve
You lost me after dip shits… when you insult people right off the bat your point becomes completely mute. Get it? You f’n a$shole.
@Mark,
Thanks for the backup! I too have opened my eyes to the exponential number of non-Apple apps. Being a Apple employee one tends to naturally want to favor a Apple anything. I like you have chosen a different browser than Safari. I have been using Chrome for a few months and LOVE it! It’s faster and more stable, plus it has way more extensions. I really like the themes too. I’m just not a FireFox guy.
@Mark,
Thanks for the backup! I too have opened my eyes to the exponential number of non-Apple apps. Being a Apple employee one tends to naturally want to favor a Apple anything. I like you have chosen a different browser than Safari. I have been using Chrome for a few months and LOVE it! It’s faster and more stable, plus it has way more extensions. I really like the themes too. I’m just not a FireFox guy.
Microsoft = the new IBM
Apple = the new Microsoft
Google = the new Apple
Sad, but true.
Microsoft = the new IBM
Apple = the new Microsoft
Google = the new Apple
Sad, but true.
@ idiot who can’t post with a name…
If I lost you after dip shits then your shit for brains shouldn’t be reading.
@ idiot who can’t post with a name…
If I lost you after dip shits then your shit for brains shouldn’t be reading.
Here’s what everyone who covets Verizon has had for years:
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/10/29/technology/29fcc.html?_r=1&partner=rss&emc=rss
Not sure why they’re so loved.
Here’s what everyone who covets Verizon has had for years:
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/10/29/technology/29fcc.html?_r=1&partner=rss&emc=rss
Not sure why they’re so loved.
@Predrag…
I totally agree with your “not fully intergrated into iTunes” assessment. It’s the one thing that I really miss with the Android system. Although I do like the fact that you can operate & backup a Android phone completely free of a computer. That is something you cannot do with a iPhone. It can be looked at as a plus or minus, but it’s different.
As for the Android being “taken” from the iPhone… Remember, Android was purchased by Google in 2005. A full year before the iPhone was introduced, so to say that it was totally written from the ground up because of the iPhone release is a bit of a stretch.
@Predrag…
I totally agree with your “not fully intergrated into iTunes” assessment. It’s the one thing that I really miss with the Android system. Although I do like the fact that you can operate & backup a Android phone completely free of a computer. That is something you cannot do with a iPhone. It can be looked at as a plus or minus, but it’s different.
As for the Android being “taken” from the iPhone… Remember, Android was purchased by Google in 2005. A full year before the iPhone was introduced, so to say that it was totally written from the ground up because of the iPhone release is a bit of a stretch.
@ Julio, I’d have to agree with that take. Apple has become it’s nemesis and Google is the young innovative company. Not to say that Apple doesn’t innovate, but they sure have become the “We’ll buy you, sue you, destroy you” company that we have come to hate in M$
@ Julio, I’d have to agree with that take. Apple has become it’s nemesis and Google is the young innovative company. Not to say that Apple doesn’t innovate, but they sure have become the “We’ll buy you, sue you, destroy you” company that we have come to hate in M$
@Julio:
Google = the new Apple???????
You been smokin’ some real bad stuff if you think that equation is valid. Google’s philosophy is much more Microsoft-ian than Apple will ever be.
And I love the way the Android trolls emerge from under the bridge when they get scared.
@Julio:
Google = the new Apple???????
You been smokin’ some real bad stuff if you think that equation is valid. Google’s philosophy is much more Microsoft-ian than Apple will ever be.
And I love the way the Android trolls emerge from under the bridge when they get scared.
@steve32465
I would use Chrome, but because it’s from Google and they are the most nosiest bastards on the Internet and just put out a browser to data mine people and what they do on line.
Absolute power corrupts absolutely.
@steve32465
I would use Chrome, but because it’s from Google and they are the most nosiest bastards on the Internet and just put out a browser to data mine people and what they do on line.
Absolute power corrupts absolutely.
You sir are an asshole. Go sell your droid wares somewhere else. You get off on going on websites and promoting your half assed OS.
FACT= it’s a cheap copy and rip off of an iPhone. You have iPhone envy, we get it.
GO AWAY FANDROIDS!!!
You sir are an asshole. Go sell your droid wares somewhere else. You get off on going on websites and promoting your half assed OS.
FACT= it’s a cheap copy and rip off of an iPhone. You have iPhone envy, we get it.
GO AWAY FANDROIDS!!!
Still vapor ware
“early” in 2011?
When?
Just trying to keep people from getting iPhones NOW.
You can be all-droided-up and then act like you want to also sell the iPhone. They can’t have it both ways and they won’t.
Watch for either no Verizon iphone or lots of delays and problems.
Want an iPhone? Don’t wait. Get one now.
As for Verizon, I switched to ATT to get the iPhone a few years ago and have never looked back. ATT has been great.
Verizon is trying to sell everyone on everything they can and that’s not the kind of business I like. No loyalty for them except sales above all else. I had a rough time as a Verizon customer. Just my opinion. YMMV
Still vapor ware
“early” in 2011?
When?
Just trying to keep people from getting iPhones NOW.
You can be all-droided-up and then act like you want to also sell the iPhone. They can’t have it both ways and they won’t.
Watch for either no Verizon iphone or lots of delays and problems.
Want an iPhone? Don’t wait. Get one now.
As for Verizon, I switched to ATT to get the iPhone a few years ago and have never looked back. ATT has been great.
Verizon is trying to sell everyone on everything they can and that’s not the kind of business I like. No loyalty for them except sales above all else. I had a rough time as a Verizon customer. Just my opinion. YMMV
Sorry, but this does not qualify as a confirmation or announcement in my book… its a piece of shoddy journalism based on misinformation. I’ll believe it when I see an official announcement from either Apple, Verizon, or both.
Sorry, but this does not qualify as a confirmation or announcement in my book… its a piece of shoddy journalism based on misinformation. I’ll believe it when I see an official announcement from either Apple, Verizon, or both.
Why do people love Verizon so much?
They love to bundle their crapware and handicap phone features. They nickel and dime for everything and their customer service is awful. They just had to pay up to the FCC for overcharging their customers.
I guess if it’s the only network that has good coverage in your area.
AT&T works just fine in South Florida, although I would prefer Sprint if I had a choice.
Why do people love Verizon so much?
They love to bundle their crapware and handicap phone features. They nickel and dime for everything and their customer service is awful. They just had to pay up to the FCC for overcharging their customers.
I guess if it’s the only network that has good coverage in your area.
AT&T works just fine in South Florida, although I would prefer Sprint if I had a choice.
with every person that loves Apple products there’s at least 4 of them that hate Apple products and will never buy a iPhone
Nice try, Steve, but you are utterly and completely full of shit. For every PC weenie or Freetard that “hates” Apple, there are a million people who will buy the product that suits their needs. They don’t give a shit for the internecine warfare gambits are so consumed by. It’s irrelevant to consumers. You can find any number of IT shops where a bunch of sweaty bozos deride Apple on a regular basis, but out in the real world, iPods, iPads, MacBooks, iPhones and iMacs are chock a block. Android is a knockoff. A fake. A pretender. And it’s not making anyone any money. Motorola has demonstrated that quite handily.
with every person that loves Apple products there’s at least 4 of them that hate Apple products and will never buy a iPhone
Nice try, Steve, but you are utterly and completely full of shit. For every PC weenie or Freetard that “hates” Apple, there are a million people who will buy the product that suits their needs. They don’t give a shit for the internecine warfare gambits are so consumed by. It’s irrelevant to consumers. You can find any number of IT shops where a bunch of sweaty bozos deride Apple on a regular basis, but out in the real world, iPods, iPads, MacBooks, iPhones and iMacs are chock a block. Android is a knockoff. A fake. A pretender. And it’s not making anyone any money. Motorola has demonstrated that quite handily.
@ steve32465
I won’t criticize you for peddling droids, that was a funny comment.
But no, it is not a stretch to say Google followed Apple. Google has already publicly said that a touch screen phone was never their intention until the iPhone came out. Then they worked to redo Android into a touch platform with a touch GUI.
That is why they say it is still not really ready for a tablet. It’s touch sensing was added in late and not that mature and not meant for a large screen device.
iPhone was built for touch from the start. Nobody though non-haptic feedback touch would work. Nobody thought you could type on a flat screen. Nobody thought the typing error correction would work. Most everyone was wrong. Way wrong.
@ steve32465
I won’t criticize you for peddling droids, that was a funny comment.
But no, it is not a stretch to say Google followed Apple. Google has already publicly said that a touch screen phone was never their intention until the iPhone came out. Then they worked to redo Android into a touch platform with a touch GUI.
That is why they say it is still not really ready for a tablet. It’s touch sensing was added in late and not that mature and not meant for a large screen device.
iPhone was built for touch from the start. Nobody though non-haptic feedback touch would work. Nobody thought you could type on a flat screen. Nobody thought the typing error correction would work. Most everyone was wrong. Way wrong.
ATT sucks in Chicago
ATT sucks in Chicago
ATT sucks in Chicago and my daughter says it sucks in manhattan. She hates watching Verizon customers use their phones while she gets the old SEARCHING
ATT sucks in Chicago and my daughter says it sucks in manhattan. She hates watching Verizon customers use their phones while she gets the old SEARCHING
Verizon new data plan, 150MB for $15, proves iPhone is coming to their network.
$15 would be to calm down less fortunate Verizon non-iPhone users and $30 unlimited will be for Verizon iPhone users to enjoy.
Verizon new data plan, 150MB for $15, proves iPhone is coming to their network.
$15 would be to calm down less fortunate Verizon non-iPhone users and $30 unlimited will be for Verizon iPhone users to enjoy.
SEARCHING in Chicago on streets, Manhattan SEARCHING in subways, GPS erratic at best. I’m a fanboy but it’s really starting to SUCK.
SEARCHING in Chicago on streets, Manhattan SEARCHING in subways, GPS erratic at best. I’m a fanboy but it’s really starting to SUCK.
In my experience, AT&T works fine in Manhattan when you are outside. Inside some of these concrete and steel structures, there are often issues. If you believe what they say, it’s because getting a permit and approvals to put up cell towers and transmitters in NY is a monumental PITA. Perhaps Verizon just got there first and gobbled up the good spots, who knows. I personally rarely have any problems or issues.
In my experience, AT&T works fine in Manhattan when you are outside. Inside some of these concrete and steel structures, there are often issues. If you believe what they say, it’s because getting a permit and approvals to put up cell towers and transmitters in NY is a monumental PITA. Perhaps Verizon just got there first and gobbled up the good spots, who knows. I personally rarely have any problems or issues.
This is a really weird thread.
Personally, I’d never use Verizon again unless they were the *only* carrier that had the iPhone. I went through a customer service nightmare of epic proportions with them, easily worse than any other I can think of, except maybe Quark. 2 of their super-awesome Moto feature-phones (brand new) died on me in one weekend, and they wanted me to pay for the third (the full, un-subsidized price to boot). Their employees lied to me and blamed me for their crappy hardware. It was awful.
That said, a lot of people don’t like ATT, and personally I’ve never had a problem and always had good service in the Seattle area. But regardless of any of this, it’s clear that some networks are better in some areas, and network exclusivity for phone models is dumb. I really *hope* this rumor is true, just so we can hear the end of the bitching (and maybe the end of the Droid) once and for all.
This is a really weird thread.
Personally, I’d never use Verizon again unless they were the *only* carrier that had the iPhone. I went through a customer service nightmare of epic proportions with them, easily worse than any other I can think of, except maybe Quark. 2 of their super-awesome Moto feature-phones (brand new) died on me in one weekend, and they wanted me to pay for the third (the full, un-subsidized price to boot). Their employees lied to me and blamed me for their crappy hardware. It was awful.
That said, a lot of people don’t like ATT, and personally I’ve never had a problem and always had good service in the Seattle area. But regardless of any of this, it’s clear that some networks are better in some areas, and network exclusivity for phone models is dumb. I really *hope* this rumor is true, just so we can hear the end of the bitching (and maybe the end of the Droid) once and for all.
…speaking of- I’ve noticed the meme building that Android is “great for geeks”. Sort of like how Macs are only good if you “do graphics”, whatever that ever meant.
I think this is a great myth, and we should do everything we can to spread it. Geeks *love* to tell you how they are overclocking their phone and running custom ROMs so they can play old DOS games (seriously, I just had this conversation) and go on about the usual Linux openness blather.
And when they do this, you can see normal people tuning out. They don’t understand any of it and the mostly don’t care. So I say go with that, it’s a perfect myth. Buy an Android phone if you’re a geek and want to spend a lot of time fiddling with your OS. Buy an iPhone if you want to use your phone to do stuff.
…speaking of- I’ve noticed the meme building that Android is “great for geeks”. Sort of like how Macs are only good if you “do graphics”, whatever that ever meant.
I think this is a great myth, and we should do everything we can to spread it. Geeks *love* to tell you how they are overclocking their phone and running custom ROMs so they can play old DOS games (seriously, I just had this conversation) and go on about the usual Linux openness blather.
And when they do this, you can see normal people tuning out. They don’t understand any of it and the mostly don’t care. So I say go with that, it’s a perfect myth. Buy an Android phone if you’re a geek and want to spend a lot of time fiddling with your OS. Buy an iPhone if you want to use your phone to do stuff.
of course netflix has more movies they are a movie rental site. Itunes has not been doing the movie rental as long and they are a differnt format they dont ship dvds of have unlimited streaming. PLus itunes has had a hard time with the movie companies letting them rent the movies at the price they do.
of course netflix has more movies they are a movie rental site. Itunes has not been doing the movie rental as long and they are a differnt format they dont ship dvds of have unlimited streaming. PLus itunes has had a hard time with the movie companies letting them rent the movies at the price they do.
A little over 10-years ago I had a nice system. It had an Intel 500 mhz processor, USB ports, 128 megs of RAM and a 20 gigabyte hard drive.
My iPhone 4 has almost as much storage, twice the ram and double the processing power…all fitting nicely in my pocket. My prior 3GS also beat these specs.
My point: The iPhone simply rocks. No other phone on the market can even come close. The retina display is so killer, it even makes you realize just how bad your eyesight is getting over the years : )
Android will be mired in lawsuits in the coming months. Any hardware makers and wireless companies should be wary of any short-term financial gains from an Android arrangement, because of the more costly long-term financial damages that Oracle “will” collect.
Let’s face it, Google is the new Microsoft. Steal from the innovative and give to the clueless. We all know what’s going to happen to Microsoft. Google is not far behind either.
A little over 10-years ago I had a nice system. It had an Intel 500 mhz processor, USB ports, 128 megs of RAM and a 20 gigabyte hard drive.
My iPhone 4 has almost as much storage, twice the ram and double the processing power…all fitting nicely in my pocket. My prior 3GS also beat these specs.
My point: The iPhone simply rocks. No other phone on the market can even come close. The retina display is so killer, it even makes you realize just how bad your eyesight is getting over the years : )
Android will be mired in lawsuits in the coming months. Any hardware makers and wireless companies should be wary of any short-term financial gains from an Android arrangement, because of the more costly long-term financial damages that Oracle “will” collect.
Let’s face it, Google is the new Microsoft. Steal from the innovative and give to the clueless. We all know what’s going to happen to Microsoft. Google is not far behind either.
I am so freakin tired of the Verizon iPhone rumors that get pulled from the closet every few months. Joe’s sister’s friend cleans the offices for a dude that knows someone at Apple and he said it’s coming out.
I hope they do release it, but you will not be able to get one. Apple can barely handle demand now. Imagine what would happen when the demand jumps another 9 million units.
Unless the original 5 year contract has changed, we aren’t seeing anything before 2012 . So, I don’t see a Verizon iPhone this year.
I am so freakin tired of the Verizon iPhone rumors that get pulled from the closet every few months. Joe’s sister’s friend cleans the offices for a dude that knows someone at Apple and he said it’s coming out.
I hope they do release it, but you will not be able to get one. Apple can barely handle demand now. Imagine what would happen when the demand jumps another 9 million units.
Unless the original 5 year contract has changed, we aren’t seeing anything before 2012 . So, I don’t see a Verizon iPhone this year.
@steve32465:
My iPhone 4 has not dropped a single call due to AT&T service since the day I got it. I also have no issues with Bluetooth pairing.
There *WAS* a known issue, however, with calls getting disconnected when your ear physically touched the phone with iOS 4.0. Getting a case and upgrading to iOS 4.1 removed that gliiitch.
As for reliability, the earlier the iPhone model you have, the more problematic these disconnect issues were. This was partially due to AT&T service but also due to the chipset in earlier models. Knowing which one to blame has been problematic. I found iPhone v.1 was always dropping calls. It also didn’t help that AT&T coverage was erratic, depending which city you were in. That issue has been discussed at length here over the past several months. AT&T has had growing pains adjusting to the iPhone. I do not expect Verizon’s network to be smoother, if and when they ever start carrying the iPhone. Apple’s unprecedented success has shaken up a moribund industry for good, and like it or not, the iPhone will be the smartphone that sets the gold standard for this industry for years to come.
I know that no smartphone is perfect, but the iPhone 4 comes pretty damn close. Basically, if you’re satisfied with using your Android as a phone, more power to you. But as for myself, I have found that the iPhone is more than just a phone; and it has transformed how we keep in touch.
@steve32465:
My iPhone 4 has not dropped a single call due to AT&T service since the day I got it. I also have no issues with Bluetooth pairing.
There *WAS* a known issue, however, with calls getting disconnected when your ear physically touched the phone with iOS 4.0. Getting a case and upgrading to iOS 4.1 removed that gliiitch.
As for reliability, the earlier the iPhone model you have, the more problematic these disconnect issues were. This was partially due to AT&T service but also due to the chipset in earlier models. Knowing which one to blame has been problematic. I found iPhone v.1 was always dropping calls. It also didn’t help that AT&T coverage was erratic, depending which city you were in. That issue has been discussed at length here over the past several months. AT&T has had growing pains adjusting to the iPhone. I do not expect Verizon’s network to be smoother, if and when they ever start carrying the iPhone. Apple’s unprecedented success has shaken up a moribund industry for good, and like it or not, the iPhone will be the smartphone that sets the gold standard for this industry for years to come.
I know that no smartphone is perfect, but the iPhone 4 comes pretty damn close. Basically, if you’re satisfied with using your Android as a phone, more power to you. But as for myself, I have found that the iPhone is more than just a phone; and it has transformed how we keep in touch.
Oh yeah… the Bluetooth thing. What’s the deal with that? Are people having Bluetooth problems? I don’t use it on my iPhone, but I use a BT keyboard with my iPad and it’s worked flawlessly every single time.
Oh yeah… the Bluetooth thing. What’s the deal with that? Are people having Bluetooth problems? I don’t use it on my iPhone, but I use a BT keyboard with my iPad and it’s worked flawlessly every single time.
@ Bizzarro,
I’m an open source guy. I prefer the Linux derivative of Unix based Android over the true Unix based iOS.
I like the fact that any Android App can be malware and hate the fact that Apple’s walled garden prevents malware on iOS.
Open sourced Linux is good. Unix based open source is not the same. OS X and iOS is Unix open source not Linux open source so it can’t be good.
Do I have your thought process right?
@ Bizzarro,
I’m an open source guy. I prefer the Linux derivative of Unix based Android over the true Unix based iOS.
I like the fact that any Android App can be malware and hate the fact that Apple’s walled garden prevents malware on iOS.
Open sourced Linux is good. Unix based open source is not the same. OS X and iOS is Unix open source not Linux open source so it can’t be good.
Do I have your thought process right?
Enjoy the rumor while it lasts, because Gregg Thurman is going to show up any minute now and remind us all that Verizon won’t be getting an iPhone simply because the Apple/AT&T five-year contract doesn’t expire until 2012.
@steve32465
Who said… I’ve got news for you dip shits… Apple isn’t going to kill the iPhone with a move to Verizon or any other US carrier.
What? Are you suggesting a move to Verizon or any other US carrier would kill the iPhone?
Or are you saying it wouldn’t kill the iPhone, if Apple were to move it to other US carriers?
I gave up trying to make sense of that statement and didn’t bother with the rest of your zany proclamation.
Enjoy the rumor while it lasts, because Gregg Thurman is going to show up any minute now and remind us all that Verizon won’t be getting an iPhone simply because the Apple/AT&T five-year contract doesn’t expire until 2012.
@steve32465
Who said… I’ve got news for you dip shits… Apple isn’t going to kill the iPhone with a move to Verizon or any other US carrier.
What? Are you suggesting a move to Verizon or any other US carrier would kill the iPhone?
Or are you saying it wouldn’t kill the iPhone, if Apple were to move it to other US carriers?
I gave up trying to make sense of that statement and didn’t bother with the rest of your zany proclamation.
Nexus Two and WP7 announcement/release Nov 8. Apple holds event Nov 9/releases a statement saying iPhone on Verizion in Q1 of 2011. That’d be awesome.
Nexus Two and WP7 announcement/release Nov 8. Apple holds event Nov 9/releases a statement saying iPhone on Verizion in Q1 of 2011. That’d be awesome.
@’djp’ sez: “Verizon. Getting the iPhone any day now since 2006.”
Is the Verizon iPhone rumor going to be the #1 Vaporware Of The Year?
I’ve been sifting through the rumors going on about iPhones lately and have to point out that they conflict with one another to the point where it is OBVIOUS that many of them are CONCOCTED NONSENSE. Which are bull and which are real? ANY of them?
And isn’t it pathetic that the public have their drooling tongues hanging out waiting to devour the latest bit of vacuous drivel?
@’djp’ sez: “Verizon. Getting the iPhone any day now since 2006.”
Is the Verizon iPhone rumor going to be the #1 Vaporware Of The Year?
I’ve been sifting through the rumors going on about iPhones lately and have to point out that they conflict with one another to the point where it is OBVIOUS that many of them are CONCOCTED NONSENSE. Which are bull and which are real? ANY of them?
And isn’t it pathetic that the public have their drooling tongues hanging out waiting to devour the latest bit of vacuous drivel?
I am not waiting for a Verizon iPhone, as much as I am a Sprint iPhone. But, regardless of who gets it next, hurry up and bring it to Sprint already.
I am not waiting for a Verizon iPhone, as much as I am a Sprint iPhone. But, regardless of who gets it next, hurry up and bring it to Sprint already.
@derek
And isn’t it pathetic that the public have their drooling tongues hanging out waiting to devour the latest bit of vacuous drivel?
What? Like you never wished real hard for something in your life before? Sucks to be you, doesn’t it?
@derek
And isn’t it pathetic that the public have their drooling tongues hanging out waiting to devour the latest bit of vacuous drivel?
What? Like you never wished real hard for something in your life before? Sucks to be you, doesn’t it?
@G4Dualie sez: “What? Like you never wished real hard for something in your life before? Sucks to be you, doesn’t it?”
(o_0)?
Oh I get it! HUMOR!
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
Seriously: Wasting your life on rumor mongering? Just a little bit sad.
@G4Dualie sez: “What? Like you never wished real hard for something in your life before? Sucks to be you, doesn’t it?”
(o_0)?
Oh I get it! HUMOR!
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
Seriously: Wasting your life on rumor mongering? Just a little bit sad.
Believe it when you hear it from Apple, until then move along, it’s no more than conjecture.
Believe it when you hear it from Apple, until then move along, it’s no more than conjecture.
@Derek
Seriously: Wasting your life on rumor mongering? Just a little bit sad.
And yet, here you are, derek. Welcome to the social, hypocrite.
@Derek
Seriously: Wasting your life on rumor mongering? Just a little bit sad.
And yet, here you are, derek. Welcome to the social, hypocrite.
@ChrissyOne,
So I’m not the only one that has been bent over and raped (and not in a good way) by both Verizon and Quark?
@ChrissyOne,
So I’m not the only one that has been bent over and raped (and not in a good way) by both Verizon and Quark?
Did someone kill @G4Dualie and replace him with a pod creature? I don’t recall being at odds with his comments previously:
Pod creature ‘G4Dualie’ sniped at me:
“And yet, here you are, derek. Welcome to the social, hypocrite.”
Uh, what? Are you perhaps a bot that has no concept of the thread being discussed? Go chat with your bot wrangler about having your code replaced.
Meanwhile kids: Expect me to be just as cynical about stupid rumors as ever. It makes me feel happy smiley cheerful to help the lost out of the dark.

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Did someone kill @G4Dualie and replace him with a pod creature? I don’t recall being at odds with his comments previously:
Pod creature ‘G4Dualie’ sniped at me:
“And yet, here you are, derek. Welcome to the social, hypocrite.”
Uh, what? Are you perhaps a bot that has no concept of the thread being discussed? Go chat with your bot wrangler about having your code replaced.
Meanwhile kids: Expect me to be just as cynical about stupid rumors as ever. It makes me feel happy smiley cheerful to help the lost out of the dark.

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Does t-mobile still have an 80% chance of getting the iPhone?
Wasn’t that the last unconfirmed report, I mean crack news report?
Does t-mobile still have an 80% chance of getting the iPhone?
Wasn’t that the last unconfirmed report, I mean crack news report?
Fortune has confirmed that a Verizon iPhone will be released in early 2011?
Anybody from Verizon or Apple confirm this?
Since when is a news article credible without a source?
Fortune, wsj, and the rest have zero credibility anymore.
Just a bunch of tabloid rags…
Fortune has confirmed that a Verizon iPhone will be released in early 2011?
Anybody from Verizon or Apple confirm this?
Since when is a news article credible without a source?
Fortune, wsj, and the rest have zero credibility anymore.
Just a bunch of tabloid rags…
It’s a sad day in mobile history.
This CDMA crap should be scrapped in favour of GSM and LTE.
It’s a sad day in mobile history.
This CDMA crap should be scrapped in favour of GSM and LTE.