Apple has pulled Parler from the App Store, just hours after the free speech Twitter rival hit No.1 on Apple’s top free apps chart.
Apple said in a statement on Saturday evening, “We have always supported diverse points of view being represented on the App Store, but there is no place on our platform for threats of violence and illegal activity.”
MacDailyNews Take: Which, of course, is why Apple today also pulled Twitter and Facebook.
Just kidding (even though this is no laughing matter).
Parler logo“Parler has not taken adequate measures to address the proliferation of these threats to people’s safety. We have suspended Parler from the App Store until they resolve these issues,” reads a statement from the company on Saturday evening.
Apparently, Parler did propose some changes, but Apple decided they weren’t sufficient, according to a statement Apple sent to Parler alongside its final decision to remove the app. It states that “the processes Parler has put in place to moderate or prevent the spread of dangerous and illegal content have proved insufficient,” and that Parler will not return to the App Store until it has “demonstrated your ability to effectively moderate and filter the dangerous and harmful content on your service.”
MacDailyNews Take: It’s a sad day.
Apple’s reasoning for pulling Parler is fine, if applied uniformly.
However, Apple’s stated reason for pulling Parler clearly dictates that the company also pull Twitter, Facebook, and any number of other apps, as anyone who’s used them for any amount of time knows. Yet Apple has hypocritically failed to do so, revealing a lack of thought and/or ulterior motive.
Despite Apple’s regrettable attempt to implement these glorious Information Purification Directives, Parler remains accessible online via any web browser, even Apple’s Safari, here: https://parler.com/
Art and music, design and performance, opinion, fiction, provocation, are what we work to enable. That fills us with such a sense of pride as well as a deep sense of responsibility because we know that these freedoms require protection; not just the forms of speech that entertain us, but the ones that challenge us, the ones that unnerve and even displease us. They’re the ones that need protection the most. Unpopular speech, unpopular art, and unpopular ideas; speech that questions the people in power.
It’s no accident that these freedoms are enshrined and protected in the First Amendment. They’re the foundation of so many of our rights. We means we all have a stake, and a role, in defending them. This is a responsibility that Apple takes very seriously… We work to defend these freedoms enabling people around the world to speak up. — Apple CEO Tim Cook, accepting the Newseum’s “Free Expression” Award in November 2017
By the way, all of these “social media” platforms – Twitter, Parler, Facebook – are cancers on society. They are clearly eating society from the inside out. There’s something unsavory within human nature that “digital distance” amplifies to the point of disgust.
If you quit these cancers you will quickly realize what they are and what they do. You will be happier and healthier to have excised them from your life.
We haven’t had personal Twitter or Facebook accounts for many years now. And very happily so.
Lastly, consumers of “news” should seek it from disparate sources in order to arrive at some semblance of the truth.
As always, the best way to consume “news” is to cast a wide net. The wider, the better.
Readers of “news” need to consider the sources and interpret what they are being told accordingly. The more disparate sources you can find, the better. And we don’t mean different newspaper, network, website brands that are all owned by the same conglomerate. Determining the actual ownership of your “news” sources is an investment that requires a bit of time, but it is very enlightening. — MacDailyNews Take, June 17, 2015
Without freedom of speech you don’t know who the enemy of democracy truly is. Those attempting to silence any voice in this country are on “the wrong side of history” as they like to say. Justice will be swift as it should be, if not in court by the people, those who love their country above all else including political ideologies.
This is a demonstration of mob mentality of its own. Silencing free speech has never been a good or well thought out corporate strategy. They’re drunk on their own power so much that they’re blind to it. The voice and the will of the people will have something to say first, the courts will come later of course. This is a very sad day for corporate America.
There it is: “Justice will be swift, if not in court by the people.”
There is the voice of those who reject due process, who want to set up a guillotine in the center of Paris, a noose outside a Southern jail, or a Committee of Vigilance to keep the Chinese in their place in San Francisco. There is the voice of the mob that used to chant “Lock her up,” but has moved along to “Hang Mike Pence!”
There is the voice who claim to love their country when they hate everything it has stood for since 1776.
You inserted that quote, not me. Stick to the context. Don’t extrapolate the argument to fit your narrative by misassigning a quotes to a comment when it was not made.
I love due process and it will handed to Apple and others when the lawsuits roll in over their collusive actions here. Just wait and see.
Hey Apple World…..Hey Tim Cook…..here is a fun little scenario to ponder…..
If as alleged by Tim Cook; that Parler is being used to enable-_____________ (conduct we hate); then let’s carry this “enablement” mantra further shall we:
How many terrorist/criminal/harassment events have been carried out using an iPhone/Android phones and the encrypted WhatsApp from the bowels of FaceBook to evade detection/arrest/incarceration??
If the current outrage-banning-censoring mantra is to be followed then Apple, Facebook, Google, Samsung, and WhatsApp should alllllll be shut down for enabling criminal activity…………Right!? ….anybody…??…..is this thing on??!!
How far do you free speech haters and muzzlers of the opposition want to take this….??
I call BS on alllllllll the double standards and hypocrisy……I support NONE of the violence.
Go to the Capitol and make your voices heard does not mean storm the Capitol with your MAGA and Antifa and BLM embedded thugs to murder and destroy things.
Where was the OUTRAGE when Antifa and BLM were burning Democrat cities to the ground this past summer??? Go look at the videos before they are taken down by the Speech Police.
Burning Looting and Murder obviously are tolerated in certain areas of the internet…….the proverbial “nothing to see…move along” mantra rules the day….
Where was the OUTRAGE when politicos and left-leaning Hollywoodites were calling for bombing the White House and decapitation of the POTUS……..
NOT.ONE.PEEP.FROM.THE.DEMOCRATS
Let me know when the hypocrisy and doube-standards are REMOVED..!!
Twitter, Facebook, Apple, Microsoft, all of them have a process by which content deemed to be unfit can be removed, whether it’s pornography or propaganda. In some cases, they recognize and take down content even BEFORE some heinous thing can occur.
Parler is saying that they don’t remove content and they won’t. Parler COULD, of course, this isn’t a new problem. It’s been figured out by companies LONG before Parler. If Parler were to have a process similar to Twitter, Facebook, etc. then they’d be given the same loooooong leash. It’s one thing for it to take weeks or months to have content removed BUT that’s still better than the “NEVER” that Parler is putting forth.
If Facebook were to say they WON’T remove content, they’d be under the same scrutiny. But, they’re smarter than Parler.
Way, way back before any social media, there was the guy in the corner propping up the bar, giving forth on his pet topic, sane, cranky and every flavour in-between. Then, all you had to do was tell them to STFU or find another bar.
Come social media, that person has a huge audience and a lot more oxygen, now it’s a lot more difficult to walk away.
Now the crazy guy in the corner and his friends are insisting that everybody else in the bar not just shut up but support their latest conspiracy theory. They insist that the government must support their shared delusion and if it doesn’t, they will invade the Capitol and block essential operations to get their way. If that doesn’t work, they will blame somebody else (libtards must have hijacked my social media feed to show me inside the building and not a bunch of black activists).. If anyone refuses to facilitate their next criminal action by providing them the means to conduct their conspiracy, they claim that the constitution requires patriots to help them attack our constitutional republic.
Real patriots need to put these crazies back in the corner where they belong. They certainly don’t need to be helping them communicate with one another or radicalize the gullible. There is plenty of bandwidth on the Internet for their delusions without forcing Apple or anybody else to assist the conspirators against their will.
Those events had me make a 180 on my views about the App Store: it needs to be open to other stores. (Note: I’m not a Parler user)
And Tim Cook need to leave. He had done a great job succeeding S.Jobs. I don’t think anyone could have done better. But it is time for Apple to become more focused on their products and less on their political views. And for that, T. Cook need to leave.
It appears the MacDailyNews has become political and interpreting things instead of just reporting news, events, etc around Apple products and services. If anyone could guide me to Apple sites that just report the news, events, etc around Apple products but not leaving their comments and interpretations for me would be great.
Hey MDN, when you wrote this take, “Apple’s stated reason for pulling Parler clearly dictates that the company also pull Twitter, Facebook, and any number of other apps…” you forgot to add Google.
You know that Apple and Google has got to know that some crazy harmful shit has been carried out against people and especially the exploitation of children, (BTW how’s those Cobalt mines) using G-Mail and Google Search that Google has been paying Apple Billions of dollars to have as the default Search on Apple Safari and mobile. Yet, Google failed to demonstrate their ability to effectively moderate and filter the dangerous and harmful capability of their service. But that didn’t matter to Apple. They were too busy running to the bank to cash that big Google check.
So, in order for the Cupertino Cowards to not be the hypocrites we all know them to be, they need to cancel the current contract with Google and to make up for their sins of complicity of allowing children to be harmed over the previous years of misuse of G-Mail and Google Search to which Google and Apple did very little to prevent, they need to return the money.
Because they did not taken adequate measures to address the proliferation of these threats to people’s safety, Apple needs to return the blood money to Google. All of it! Not just Google payments for the US, but UK and elseware, not just for Safari, but for mobile as well. ALL OF IT!!! Over the years, what do you think that runs into Tim? $50 to $100 Billion dollars, give or take?
Return it Apple, for all the victims you heled to create by giving Google’s unscrupolous users even more access and availability in the US and around the world. Oh, and please don’t use that bullshit line of ‘we can’t control what people do’. Um, by your cowardly actions right now of removing apps from the app store until they kiss your Golden Delicious ass and you give them Blessing on their ToS that you agree to in order for their return, by Amazon pulling from their AWS web hosting and social media platforms delisting products and suspending people left and right or should that be right and right, you, Apple, Big Tech and Big Business, proved that you could. You uncaring money grabbing bastards just didn’t want to!
Apple needs to show us the evidence. And bring that evidence to law enforcement.
“Parler has no groups-style feature and Facebook was the number one tool for coordinating meetups for that event,”
Parler has no way to collect or manage groups via moderator approvals. It is a single user account. You can subscribe or follow an individual account but those accounts are open for all to follow.
Apple and Amazon need to show us the actual Parler post that where used to coordinated activity at the capital.
Someone spouting off hate or nonsense is not a coordinated illegal activity.
Apple has no proof because it dose not exist. FB on the other hand has groups that can privately share post and information.
This is an excuse for apple to kill free speech that Nanny Tim Cook dose not agree with.
Both Liberals and Conservatives should be afraid. Today its trump supporters but tomorrow it will be the next group.
Apple said in a statement to media outlets on Saturday that they believe Paler had “not taken adequate measures to address” the proliferation of “threats of violence and illegal activity.”
“Twitter let ‘Hang Mike Pence’ trend the same day Parler was banned from Google … the double standard is obvious,”
Trending means the platform algorithm promoted the stories to other users. So not only dose Twitter NOT have “”adequate measures to address” the proliferation of “threats of violence and illegal activity.”” The Twitter platform actual encourages violence and illegal activity. But of course thats ok because its for the blue team
The “Hang Mike Pence” calls were coming from the Red Team. They even built a gallows at the Capitol and were searching the building carrying ties to restrain the public officials they were trying to find.
Im not a republican, Im the classic liberal. And who says justification comes from party affiliation. Under the standard defined by Apple the “hang Mike Pence” was a call to violence and an illegal activity to a sitting Vice President. You logic proves you have a double standard.
Your mind is so depraved and warped that you only view truth and fact based on how many political points it scores for your team. Its amazing how you keep defending evil.
My concern is for freedom and liberty of the individual. I know you think you are progressive and a liberal but you are not. You are a clueless marxist that has sold you soul for power. YOU ARE AN EMBARRASSMENT TO TRUE LIBERALS AND LIBERTY.
Liberalism is based on Freedom, equality, and human rights of the individual. You are a fascists that justifies right and wrong based on power and control.
Read a book about Liberalism, o wait you and yours don’t read books you burn books
I am genuinely puzzled. What have I said that is inconsistent with classical liberalism? Somebody posted a claim that the Hang Mike Pence calls on Twitter were coming from the blue team. I replied that they were mostly from the red team, as shown by their conduct at the Capitol. That does not make me an example of depraved politics.
Apple did not remove Twitter, because they deleted the calls for violence when they were pointed out. Apple did remove Parler, because they refused to commit to similar moderation on their platform. Classical liberalism supports free speech, but not free speech without consequences. Apple has just as much of a right to control its own message as the QAnon Shaman.
If you think the constitutional process for picking a president is “evil” then I guess I support that evil. It was developed by classical liberals quite specifically to defend against the sort of mob action we saw last Wednesday. If it is “evil” to call on the adults in the room to take steps to avoid a repetition of the insurrection then I guess I qualify. The original John Locke would not have supported the madness that we have been seeing since Nov. 3. This was not the American Revolution. Some guy in face paint and a buffalo helmet is not George Washington.
The freedom and liberty of the individual are best preserved by a constitutional order that provides due process and equal protection of the laws for every citizen, not just for those who advocate the forcible overthrow of decisions made by a majority of their fellow voters.
TxUser was right in saying that Trump supporters we going after Mike Pence…because he grew a pair and did not do Trump’s bidding. All of this is known so please read before criticizing.
Anyway I just watch Arnold Schwarzenegger’s video so it’s all over folks. Biden won and democracy was saved and if you try to subvert it again, he will personally kick your ass. 😉
Why purchase Apple, an overprice poor man’s commie substitute or shop from Commie Bozo’s Amazon when you can purchase from the real deal for a quarter of the price!
Bravo. The Trumpers have been trumped. But they really need irradication. They are now the swamp. Biden is going to have a field day with a democrstic Congress. Suck it fanatics.
So you openly admit your will want exterminate fellow citizens you disagree with. Sounds like a little fascist red terror to me. At least you are honest with your feelings and intent. Usually marxist tell lies before they strike. An honest marxist is like thoughtful trump supporter very rare indeed.
How are you different than Trump ?
What happened to the reasonable middle that could agree to disagree but still was willing to live together. The USA is a Liberal Capitalist nation where both sides balance each other. But now both sides are extremely insane fanatics.
FUUUUCK YOU DEGENERATE/ HYPOCRITE TIM🖕🖕🖕! It’s sooo freaking hard not to feel hatred towards these motherfucker libtards. HYPOCRITES! CALL ME HOMOPHOBIC! I DON’T GIVE A SHIT! FUCK YOU ALL PROGRESSIVES LIBTARDS SOCIALISTS AND COMMIES! FOR YOU ARE ALL ONE AND THE SAME: FUCKING FASCISTS! LIARS! THIEVES! YOU ARE THE SCUM OF HUMANITY!
A war is brewing… I can feel it. That senile demented fool and his fellow c**nt VP will bring disaster to this nation.
I don’t give a flying shit either if MDN censors me 🖕
Yo…seek some help dude before that vein in your brain pops…..
Trump is a bad person….how long did it take before the WH flag was lowered to honor that dead policeman? Suppose you are proud of that? That cop, like the military risk their lives so you can go off on a childish rant like you just did. Think about that….
Apple refused to unlock the phones of the San Bernadino terrorists, but is more than happy to cut off communication between its own customers over political views they don’t agree with.
The paradox of tolerance states that if a society is tolerant without limit, its ability to be tolerant is eventually seized or destroyed by the intolerant. Karl Popper described it as the seemingly paradoxical idea that in order to maintain a tolerant society, the society must be intolerant of intolerance.
Hmmm, there seems to be a lot of Whacko Jackos contributing to this site…more common than blowies at a BBQ?
Maybe, cobber. Pass is another shrimp to throw on the barbie will ya mate?
Bangers mate.
Without freedom of speech you don’t know who the enemy of democracy truly is. Those attempting to silence any voice in this country are on “the wrong side of history” as they like to say. Justice will be swift as it should be, if not in court by the people, those who love their country above all else including political ideologies.
This is a demonstration of mob mentality of its own. Silencing free speech has never been a good or well thought out corporate strategy. They’re drunk on their own power so much that they’re blind to it. The voice and the will of the people will have something to say first, the courts will come later of course. This is a very sad day for corporate America.
“The voice and the will of the people will have something to say first”
And they’ll be saying “More iPhones please!”
There it is: “Justice will be swift, if not in court by the people.”
There is the voice of those who reject due process, who want to set up a guillotine in the center of Paris, a noose outside a Southern jail, or a Committee of Vigilance to keep the Chinese in their place in San Francisco. There is the voice of the mob that used to chant “Lock her up,” but has moved along to “Hang Mike Pence!”
There is the voice who claim to love their country when they hate everything it has stood for since 1776.
You inserted that quote, not me. Stick to the context. Don’t extrapolate the argument to fit your narrative by misassigning a quotes to a comment when it was not made.
I love due process and it will handed to Apple and others when the lawsuits roll in over their collusive actions here. Just wait and see.
You idiot, you said it right at the top!
Hey Apple World…..Hey Tim Cook…..here is a fun little scenario to ponder…..
If as alleged by Tim Cook; that Parler is being used to enable-_____________ (conduct we hate); then let’s carry this “enablement” mantra further shall we:
How many terrorist/criminal/harassment events have been carried out using an iPhone/Android phones and the encrypted WhatsApp from the bowels of FaceBook to evade detection/arrest/incarceration??
If the current outrage-banning-censoring mantra is to be followed then Apple, Facebook, Google, Samsung, and WhatsApp should alllllll be shut down for enabling criminal activity…………Right!? ….anybody…??…..is this thing on??!!
How far do you free speech haters and muzzlers of the opposition want to take this….??
I call BS on alllllllll the double standards and hypocrisy……I support NONE of the violence.
Go to the Capitol and make your voices heard does not mean storm the Capitol with your MAGA and Antifa and BLM embedded thugs to murder and destroy things.
Where was the OUTRAGE when Antifa and BLM were burning Democrat cities to the ground this past summer??? Go look at the videos before they are taken down by the Speech Police.
Burning Looting and Murder obviously are tolerated in certain areas of the internet…….the proverbial “nothing to see…move along” mantra rules the day….
Where was the OUTRAGE when politicos and left-leaning Hollywoodites were calling for bombing the White House and decapitation of the POTUS……..
NOT.ONE.PEEP.FROM.THE.DEMOCRATS
Let me know when the hypocrisy and doube-standards are REMOVED..!!
Twitter, Facebook, Apple, Microsoft, all of them have a process by which content deemed to be unfit can be removed, whether it’s pornography or propaganda. In some cases, they recognize and take down content even BEFORE some heinous thing can occur.
Parler is saying that they don’t remove content and they won’t. Parler COULD, of course, this isn’t a new problem. It’s been figured out by companies LONG before Parler. If Parler were to have a process similar to Twitter, Facebook, etc. then they’d be given the same loooooong leash. It’s one thing for it to take weeks or months to have content removed BUT that’s still better than the “NEVER” that Parler is putting forth.
If Facebook were to say they WON’T remove content, they’d be under the same scrutiny. But, they’re smarter than Parler.
Way, way back before any social media, there was the guy in the corner propping up the bar, giving forth on his pet topic, sane, cranky and every flavour in-between. Then, all you had to do was tell them to STFU or find another bar.
Come social media, that person has a huge audience and a lot more oxygen, now it’s a lot more difficult to walk away.
Now the crazy guy in the corner and his friends are insisting that everybody else in the bar not just shut up but support their latest conspiracy theory. They insist that the government must support their shared delusion and if it doesn’t, they will invade the Capitol and block essential operations to get their way. If that doesn’t work, they will blame somebody else (libtards must have hijacked my social media feed to show me inside the building and not a bunch of black activists).. If anyone refuses to facilitate their next criminal action by providing them the means to conduct their conspiracy, they claim that the constitution requires patriots to help them attack our constitutional republic.
Real patriots need to put these crazies back in the corner where they belong. They certainly don’t need to be helping them communicate with one another or radicalize the gullible. There is plenty of bandwidth on the Internet for their delusions without forcing Apple or anybody else to assist the conspirators against their will.
Well said
Amazon Prime canceled✅
iPhone obsolescence policy (only for losers) canceled✅
Twitter (what a joke) canceled✅
and so on…
Those events had me make a 180 on my views about the App Store: it needs to be open to other stores. (Note: I’m not a Parler user)
And Tim Cook need to leave. He had done a great job succeeding S.Jobs. I don’t think anyone could have done better. But it is time for Apple to become more focused on their products and less on their political views. And for that, T. Cook need to leave.
It appears the MacDailyNews has become political and interpreting things instead of just reporting news, events, etc around Apple products and services. If anyone could guide me to Apple sites that just report the news, events, etc around Apple products but not leaving their comments and interpretations for me would be great.
Hey MDN, when you wrote this take, “Apple’s stated reason for pulling Parler clearly dictates that the company also pull Twitter, Facebook, and any number of other apps…” you forgot to add Google.
You know that Apple and Google has got to know that some crazy harmful shit has been carried out against people and especially the exploitation of children, (BTW how’s those Cobalt mines) using G-Mail and Google Search that Google has been paying Apple Billions of dollars to have as the default Search on Apple Safari and mobile. Yet, Google failed to demonstrate their ability to effectively moderate and filter the dangerous and harmful capability of their service. But that didn’t matter to Apple. They were too busy running to the bank to cash that big Google check.
So, in order for the Cupertino Cowards to not be the hypocrites we all know them to be, they need to cancel the current contract with Google and to make up for their sins of complicity of allowing children to be harmed over the previous years of misuse of G-Mail and Google Search to which Google and Apple did very little to prevent, they need to return the money.
Because they did not taken adequate measures to address the proliferation of these threats to people’s safety, Apple needs to return the blood money to Google. All of it! Not just Google payments for the US, but UK and elseware, not just for Safari, but for mobile as well. ALL OF IT!!! Over the years, what do you think that runs into Tim? $50 to $100 Billion dollars, give or take?
Return it Apple, for all the victims you heled to create by giving Google’s unscrupolous users even more access and availability in the US and around the world. Oh, and please don’t use that bullshit line of ‘we can’t control what people do’. Um, by your cowardly actions right now of removing apps from the app store until they kiss your Golden Delicious ass and you give them Blessing on their ToS that you agree to in order for their return, by Amazon pulling from their AWS web hosting and social media platforms delisting products and suspending people left and right or should that be right and right, you, Apple, Big Tech and Big Business, proved that you could. You uncaring money grabbing bastards just didn’t want to!
Um, Apple… I was reviewing your TOS and, well, we need to talk!
Apple needs to show us the evidence. And bring that evidence to law enforcement.
“Parler has no groups-style feature and Facebook was the number one tool for coordinating meetups for that event,”
Parler has no way to collect or manage groups via moderator approvals. It is a single user account. You can subscribe or follow an individual account but those accounts are open for all to follow.
Apple and Amazon need to show us the actual Parler post that where used to coordinated activity at the capital.
Someone spouting off hate or nonsense is not a coordinated illegal activity.
Apple has no proof because it dose not exist. FB on the other hand has groups that can privately share post and information.
This is an excuse for apple to kill free speech that Nanny Tim Cook dose not agree with.
Both Liberals and Conservatives should be afraid. Today its trump supporters but tomorrow it will be the next group.
Apple said in a statement to media outlets on Saturday that they believe Paler had “not taken adequate measures to address” the proliferation of “threats of violence and illegal activity.”
“Twitter let ‘Hang Mike Pence’ trend the same day Parler was banned from Google … the double standard is obvious,”
Trending means the platform algorithm promoted the stories to other users. So not only dose Twitter NOT have “”adequate measures to address” the proliferation of “threats of violence and illegal activity.”” The Twitter platform actual encourages violence and illegal activity. But of course thats ok because its for the blue team
The “Hang Mike Pence” calls were coming from the Red Team. They even built a gallows at the Capitol and were searching the building carrying ties to restrain the public officials they were trying to find.
Im not a republican, Im the classic liberal. And who says justification comes from party affiliation. Under the standard defined by Apple the “hang Mike Pence” was a call to violence and an illegal activity to a sitting Vice President. You logic proves you have a double standard.
Your mind is so depraved and warped that you only view truth and fact based on how many political points it scores for your team. Its amazing how you keep defending evil.
My concern is for freedom and liberty of the individual. I know you think you are progressive and a liberal but you are not. You are a clueless marxist that has sold you soul for power. YOU ARE AN EMBARRASSMENT TO TRUE LIBERALS AND LIBERTY.
Liberalism is based on Freedom, equality, and human rights of the individual. You are a fascists that justifies right and wrong based on power and control.
Read a book about Liberalism, o wait you and yours don’t read books you burn books
I am genuinely puzzled. What have I said that is inconsistent with classical liberalism? Somebody posted a claim that the Hang Mike Pence calls on Twitter were coming from the blue team. I replied that they were mostly from the red team, as shown by their conduct at the Capitol. That does not make me an example of depraved politics.
Apple did not remove Twitter, because they deleted the calls for violence when they were pointed out. Apple did remove Parler, because they refused to commit to similar moderation on their platform. Classical liberalism supports free speech, but not free speech without consequences. Apple has just as much of a right to control its own message as the QAnon Shaman.
If you think the constitutional process for picking a president is “evil” then I guess I support that evil. It was developed by classical liberals quite specifically to defend against the sort of mob action we saw last Wednesday. If it is “evil” to call on the adults in the room to take steps to avoid a repetition of the insurrection then I guess I qualify. The original John Locke would not have supported the madness that we have been seeing since Nov. 3. This was not the American Revolution. Some guy in face paint and a buffalo helmet is not George Washington.
The freedom and liberty of the individual are best preserved by a constitutional order that provides due process and equal protection of the laws for every citizen, not just for those who advocate the forcible overthrow of decisions made by a majority of their fellow voters.
TxUser was right in saying that Trump supporters we going after Mike Pence…because he grew a pair and did not do Trump’s bidding. All of this is known so please read before criticizing.
Anyway I just watch Arnold Schwarzenegger’s video so it’s all over folks. Biden won and democracy was saved and if you try to subvert it again, he will personally kick your ass. 😉
Why purchase Apple, an overprice poor man’s commie substitute or shop from Commie Bozo’s Amazon when you can purchase from the real deal for a quarter of the price!
https://sale.alibaba.com/pages/productlist/index.html?spm=a27aq.13939470.1114682480.5.343b6456KEoX5G&path=/pages/daodimg9f/index.html
Bravo. The Trumpers have been trumped. But they really need irradication. They are now the swamp. Biden is going to have a field day with a democrstic Congress. Suck it fanatics.
Speaking of shitbags, your ban is in the mail!
So you openly admit your will want exterminate fellow citizens you disagree with. Sounds like a little fascist red terror to me. At least you are honest with your feelings and intent. Usually marxist tell lies before they strike. An honest marxist is like thoughtful trump supporter very rare indeed.
How are you different than Trump ?
What happened to the reasonable middle that could agree to disagree but still was willing to live together. The USA is a Liberal Capitalist nation where both sides balance each other. But now both sides are extremely insane fanatics.
FUUUUCK YOU DEGENERATE/ HYPOCRITE TIM🖕🖕🖕! It’s sooo freaking hard not to feel hatred towards these motherfucker libtards. HYPOCRITES! CALL ME HOMOPHOBIC! I DON’T GIVE A SHIT! FUCK YOU ALL PROGRESSIVES LIBTARDS SOCIALISTS AND COMMIES! FOR YOU ARE ALL ONE AND THE SAME: FUCKING FASCISTS! LIARS! THIEVES! YOU ARE THE SCUM OF HUMANITY!
A war is brewing… I can feel it. That senile demented fool and his fellow c**nt VP will bring disaster to this nation.
I don’t give a flying shit either if MDN censors me 🖕
Yo…seek some help dude before that vein in your brain pops…..
Trump is a bad person….how long did it take before the WH flag was lowered to honor that dead policeman? Suppose you are proud of that? That cop, like the military risk their lives so you can go off on a childish rant like you just did. Think about that….
Rumors are Tesla Phone. Open source ! Apple and Tim would be crushed if true. Richest man in the world he could F apple up!!!
I want a Tesla phone !!! I bet the battery life would be great but not sure about the glass
WWSJD?
Apple refused to unlock the phones of the San Bernadino terrorists, but is more than happy to cut off communication between its own customers over political views they don’t agree with.
The paradox of tolerance states that if a society is tolerant without limit, its ability to be tolerant is eventually seized or destroyed by the intolerant. Karl Popper described it as the seemingly paradoxical idea that in order to maintain a tolerant society, the society must be intolerant of intolerance.