Internet provider groups sue over California ‘net neutrality’ rules

“Four industry groups representing major internet providers and cable companies filed suit on Wednesday seeking to block California’s new law to mandate net neutrality rules,” David Shepardson reports for Reuters.

“The groups represent companies including AT&T Inc, Verizon Communications Inc, Comcast Corp and Charter Communications Inc. The lawsuit came after the U.S. Justice Department on Sunday filed its own lawsuit to block the new law,” Shepardson reports. “The lawsuit filed by the American Cable Association, CTIA – The Wireless Association, NCTA – The Internet & Television Association and USTelecom – The Broadband Association, called California’s law a ‘classic example of unconstitutional state regulation’ and urged the court to block it before it is set to take effect Jan. 1.”

“U.S. Attorney General Jeff Sessions said on Sunday in a statement that the ‘the California legislature has enacted an extreme and illegal state law attempting to frustrate federal policy,'” Shepardson reports. “In December, the Federal Communications Commission said in repealing the Obama-era rules that it was preempting states from setting their own rules governing internet access.”

Read more in the full article here.

MacDailyNews Take: So, any guesses as to how long will this thing be tied up in the courts?

As we wrote last December regarding the call by U.S. Senator John Thune (R-SD) for the U.S. Congress to pass ‘net neutrality’ legislation:

Real net neutrality legislation is the solution to the FCC/FTC regulatory seesaw.

Trump administration sues California over ‘net neutrality’ law – October 1, 2018


        1. So you have nothing to add other than sour grapes?
          This was my point, Trump has won just about every initiative he has tackled.

          BTW, ObamaCare repeal was the correct answer…

      1. So, let me understand this, if someone came into your house and stole $10K worth of stuff (assuming you have 10K worth of stuff in your house) and you filed a burglary report that would be based on greed?

        Like a lot of the far left I believe you are confused. Wanting to keep the proceeds of your labor is not greed.

  1. There seems to be a lapse in critical thinking when the more right leaning MDN posters have become so locked in to supporting Trump that they wii side with Ajit Pai, Comcast, and AT&T. Someone tell me when the telecoms did anything good for the average citizen.

    1. Let me explain it to you sweet cheeks.

      I am a right leaning conservative, more accurately described as a classical liberal.

      I am against every version of Net Neutrality the GOVERNMENT has come up with, especially the pile of garbage the Obama administration plopped down on the table and called it “net neutrality.”

      I am in favor of as little government involvement with the Internet as possible. My preference would be none. The Internet has done very well without major regulation and oversight, and the last thing we need is nightmare legislation like the crap the EU likes to pass.

      Net Neutrality as defined by Tim Wu (the guy who coined the phrase) says…

      “Net neutrality is the principle that Internet service providers treat all data on the Internet equally, and not discriminate or charge differently by user, content, website, platform, application, type of attached equipment, or method of communication.” And that’s it.

      This is the clean simple definition and it doesn’t require a thousand pages of bullshit giving the government unnecessary control over many aspects of the Internet. This is all we ever wanted.

      Are you keeping up here? Or are you still so goddamn focused on Trump your brain is overheating and sprouting mushrooms?

      None of this has anything to do with Trump other than he got rid of the Obama monstrosity bill. Did you ever read it or do you just assume it’s all good because it came from Obama?

      When did the telecoms do something good? Well, when I first bought this loft the maximum speed I could get was 50Mb/s Internet. Over the years it went from 50 to 100 to 300 and now gigabit Internet for the same price.

      They could easily have charged more and left me at 50Mb/s because the only competition is AT&T and they can only deliver 18Mb/s here. So I would have paid.

      Nothing good ever comes from government involvement with the Internet. You look at the Internet and you see things like services, education, communication, and so on. Politicians look at it and see money flowing back and forth and they want to know where their cut is.

      The goal should be to keep them as far away from the Internet as possible. They clearly can’t handle the basics of email security and you want them legislating and regulating the email ?

      Our legislators in California have promised more attention to the Internet next year. I can hardly wait.

      1. I was visiting with several friends from the U.K. a couple of weeks ago. They were surprised how much we pay for internet and cellular service. I live 18,000 feet from the AT&T switch, and I have NO service of any kind (except dial-up) available from them. When wifi calling became available, Ralph de la Vega was very dismissive of the value of this service to AT&T customers. But for me, it’s been a godsend. As far as I can tell, the telecoms make their decisions based on how much money they will make, not what would be beneficial to me. Some might say their profits are already obscene.. You see things a different light. I can consider your arguments, even if you leave out the personal insults.

        1. Uh, Sparkles, your entire previous post was a personal insult.

          It implies Conservatives lack critical thinking and will side with Trump no matter what.

          It really doesn’t matter how close to a switch you live, it matters how many other people live in an area that will give a provider enough ROI to upgrade.

          Oddly enough many ISPs are cutting back on hard-wired plant buildout until they see how 5G will evolve for easier and cheaper deployment, especially in rural or low-income areas where it will save the customers AND the provider a lot of money in the next two years.

          In a more controlled market where a specified ISP is made to buildout they would then have no incentive to upgrade until that system is paid off. This would have been the result had ISPs been made to behave like phone (in past) and power companies.

          Believe me, ATT wants your money as do all providers. But how smart would they be to run fiber or upgrade twisted pair and spend $5-10K buildout per sub when Verizon could come in right behind them and rollout 5G for $500 per sub??


          1. “Uh, Sparkles, your entire previous post was a personal insult.
            It implies Conservatives lack critical thinking and will side with Trump no matter what.”
            …in reply to…
            “There seems to be a lapse in critical thinking when the more right leaning MDN posters…”
            You just proved his point. What a snowflake.

            1. Ooh, one of those cute little word games from junior high followed by projection.

              I know, the rest was over your head so you focussed on what y’all live for.

      2. My man Thelonious! Right again, as almost always. 99.6% correct in his MDN comments. Always enjoy reading your writings. BTW, there is a Brother Thelonious Belgian Ale that is my favorite. Costs about $8 for a large re-sealable bottle. If you’re into ales give it a try.

  2. The Pro Fascist net Neutrality kooks assured me that once NN went away that I would be paying for the pleasure of reading this site, and their comments.
    Still waiting for that to happen. Much like I’m still waiting for “Global Warming” to destroy the world.

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