“Rashida Jones is still credited as a writer on Toy Story 4, the next installment in the beloved franchise,” Kim Masters reports for The Hollywood Reporter.
“”But, sources tell The Hollywood Reporter, the actress and her writing partner at the time, Will McCormack, left the project early on after John Lasseter, the acclaimed head of Pixar and Walt Disney Animation, made an unwanted advance,” Masters reports.
MacDailyNews Note: “In a statement to The New York Times, Ms. Jones and Mr. McCormack said their departure was tied to Pixar’s general treatment of female and minority employees,” Brooks Barnes reports for The New York Times. “‘The breakneck speed at which journalists have been naming the next perpetrator renders some reporting irresponsible,’ they said. ‘We did not leave Pixar because of unwanted advances. That is untrue. We parted ways because of creative and, more importantly, philosophical differences.'”
“‘There is so much talent at Pixar, and we remain enormous fans of their films,’ they continued. ‘However, it is also a culture where women and people of color do not have an equal creative voice,'” Barnes reports. “Ms. Jones and Mr. McCormack concluded the statement by saying: ‘We encourage Pixar to be leaders in bolstering, hiring and promoting more diverse and female storytellers and leaders. We hope we can encourage all those who have felt like their voices could not be heard in the past to feel empowered.'”
“One longtime Pixar employee says Lasseter, who is well-known for hugging employees and others in the entertainment community, was also known by insiders for ‘grabbing, kissing, making comments about physical attributes.’ Multiple sources say Lasseter is known to drink heavily at company social events such as premiere parties, but this source says the behavior was not always confined to such settings,” Masters reports. “Now Lasseter is taking a leave of absence from Pixar after acknowledging ‘painful’ conversations and unspecified ‘missteps,’ he wrote in a memo to staff on Tuesday.”
“It is hard to overstate Lasseter’s value to Disney. He is known as the genius behind Pixar films from Toy Story to Inside Out to Coco, opening Nov. 22. He took charge of Walt Disney Animation in 2006 and led a revival that included such gigantic hits as Frozen,” Masters reports. “Sources say some women at Pixar knew to turn their heads quickly when encountering him to avoid his kisses. Some used a move they called ‘the Lasseter’ to prevent their boss from putting his hands on their legs.”
“A longtime insider says he saw a woman seated next to Lasseter in a meeting that occurred more than 15 years ago. ‘She was bent over and [had her arm] across her thigh,’ he says,” Masters reports. “‘The best I can describe it is as a defensive posture … John had his hand on her knee, though, moving around.’ After that encounter, this person asked the woman about what he had seen. ‘She said it was unfortunate for her to wear a skirt that day and if she didn’t have her hand on her own right leg, his hand would have traveled.'”
“The same source said he once noticed an oddly cropped photo of Lasseter standing between two women at a company function,” Masters reports. “When he mentioned that to a colleague, he was told, ‘We had to crop it. Do you know where his hands were?'”
Read more in the full article here.
MacDailyNews Note: Lasseter’s memo to employees, verbatim:
I have always wanted our animation studios to be places where creators can explore their vision with the support and collaboration of other gifted animators and storytellers. This kind of creative culture takes constant vigilance to maintain. It’s built on trust and respect, and it becomes fragile if any members of the team don’t feel valued. As a leader, it’s my responsibility to ensure that doesn’t happen; and I now believe I have been falling short in this regard.
I’ve recently had a number of difficult conversations that have been very painful for me. It’s never easy to face your missteps, but it’s the only way to learn from them. As a result, I’ve been giving a lot of thought to the leader I am today compared to the mentor, advocate and champion I want to be. It’s been brought to my attention that I have made some of you feel disrespected or uncomfortable. That was never my intent. Collectively, you mean the world to me, and I deeply apologize if I have let you down. I especially want to apologize to anyone who has ever been on the receiving end of an unwanted hug or any other gesture they felt crossed the line in any way, shape, or form. No matter how benign my intent, everyone has the right to set their own boundaries and have them respected.
In my conversations with Disney, we are united in our commitment to always treat any concerns you have with the seriousness they deserve, and to address them in an appropriate manner. We also share a desire to reinforce the vibrant, respectful culture that has been the foundation of our studios’ success since the beginning. And we agree the first step in that direction is for me to take some time away to reflect on how to move forward from here. As hard as it is for me to step away from a job I am so passionate about and a team I hold in the highest regard, not just as artists but as people, I know it’s the best thing for all of us right now. My hope is that a six-month sabbatical will give me the opportunity to start taking better care of myself, to recharge and be inspired, and ultimately return with the insight and perspective I need to be the leader you deserve.
I’m immensely proud of this team, and I know you will continue to wow the world in my absence. I wish you all a wonderful holiday season and look forward to working together again in the new year.
We are committed to maintaining an environment in which all employees are respected and empowered to do their best work. We appreciate John’s candor and sincere apology and fully support his sabbatical.
The single greatest piece of advice Steve Jobs gave ‘Frozen’ executive producer John Lasseter – December 5, 2013
Pixar founder John Lasseter accepts Steve Jobs’ Disney Legends Award in emotional speech (with video) – August 11, 2013
John Lasseter receives star on the Hollywood Walk of Fame, honors Steve Jobs – November 2, 2011
Pixar names main studio building after Steve Jobs – November 7, 2012
Report: Steve Jobs signed off on Pixar deal with backdated options for Lasseter – February 10, 2007
Disney completes Pixar acquisition; Steve Jobs now Disney’s single largest shareholder – May 5, 2006
It’s official: Disney acquires Pixar for $7.4 billion, Steve Jobs joins Disney Board of Directors – January 24, 2006
His “reflection” might have take place far earlier if the people upon whom he physically intruded had returned the favor with a slap or punch. As bad as such “missteps” are, they certainly don’t need to be magnified and encouraged by lack of an appropriate response.
If you want to maintain control over what is yours, you either have to defend it at the time someone else tries to control it, or you have to give up and admit that you don’t care enough about it to do so (which includes caring more about your job).
Hollywood is devouring itself before our eyes…
So are men.
Men are by birth naturally hot wired to pursue the opposite sex (gays excluded).
So what is your point? …
Scumbags posing as men….
Who the f**k really needs to reflect on the fact that it is not OK to fondle women you aren’t actually in a relationship with. I think I understood this pretty well by early elementary school age, and nobody ever had to hit me for me to learn that lesson.
As for your comment, it’s not quite so simple when dealing with powerful people who can literally destroy people’s entire career, not their job. Besides, why should any person be forced to risk their job just because their boss is a pig? Sorry, but you really can’t give a valid argument for victim blaming.
I think you are both right to a point.
I also have a visceral dislike of the term “victim blaming” as it obliterates any nuance. I think this subject does not lend itself to binary thinking and I think there are subtleties that are important.
I think that bosses and people of power should keep their hands to themselves. I also think there is merit in the belief that you should defend yourself and your body. I don’t think those two points of view are entirely mutually exclusive.
Your idea that “reflection” might have taken place earlier if someone returned the favor brings home a pretty wild experience I had with an elder family relative who had the gruesome greeting of giving you a slobbering kiss and a strong arm stroke.
I endured it for years until one day a group of my other relatives brought it up at a picnic. As it turns out nearly all of them had had that treatment and they were fed up about it, but did not know what to do as several alternatives had been tried. I nonchalantly told them that I had experienced the same thing and if they wanted it stopped I’d be happy to try something.
So the next time I saw her I get her a big wet slobbering kiss and a strong arm stroke adding her classic “how are you.” Well that screwed her up royally, she had no clue what to do and it had impressed my relatives.
There was a price to pay however, for a few days later, unprovoked and in front of the whole family she grabbed me by both arms dug her nails in my skin so deep that I bled but she never ever harassed any of my relatives since (she is not passed away).
So emmayche you give great advice, it is one of the things I have learned; quite often bullies can’t take what they dish out.
Brilliant story and sorry about the vicious bleeding arm! But at least it was for a good cause.
I took a wood working class, it was a how-to.
I took a cooking class, it was a how-to
I took a sexual harassment class. Boy, was I disappointed!
“Al Franken innocent of groping Ariana Huffington, charge updated to bestiality instead.”
phlegm at 11.
If Al Franken had groped Ariana Huffington, he would be acting like a beast. Real men recognize that both men and women are entitled to human dignity.
Numerous comments I have seen since the Weinstein revelations blew this issue wide open suggest that a lot of male human beings still think that it is acceptable to act like a beast. There are even a lot of female enablers. That is just as true in politics as in show business (to the extent there is a difference any more).
For example, we have the female Governor of a US State holding a press conference in which she clearly stated that she believes the dozen or so women who have accused a senatorial candidate of her own party of pedophilia. Nevertheless, she would rather have a pedophile in Congress than a respected prosecutor from the other party.
It just isn’t that important an issue to her, just as it isn’t an important issue for other members of her party who apparently think that a man who stripped a 14-year-old to her underwear and groped her between the legs is fit to help run our country. Yes, I know he denies it, but most of these folks say they would still vote for him even if it was absolutely true.
Likewise, another prominent member of that party (to which I have long belonged, incidentally) denies the stories of the dozen or so women who have accused him of sexual harassment. What he can’t deny is that he stated to a friendly reporter, on tape, that one of the benefits of being a star is that you can grab women by the genitals and they will let you. Even if he never did it, it is clear that he thinks that sort of behavior is manly rather than bestial.
I second Jeff Flake (one of the original Tea Party members and one of the most consistently conservative voices in Congress) that this sort of clueless behavior is making our party unrecognizable. A country where objectifying women is acceptable is similarly unrecognizable. This isn’t a joke.
no, but you are.
The “joke” is your typical screed to turn a blind eye to the Democratic Party that is responsible for the lion share of sexual harassment.
You should remember that …
I’m afraid that I missed the news that Al Franken and Harvey Weinstein—the first two abusers I mentioned and the only ones I named—are no longer Democrats. How, exactly, have I turned a blind eye to them?
You should remember that… reading is fundamental.
Al Franken is a Democrat senator from Minnesota.
Harvey is a Democrat big wig from Hollywood.
What exactly do you not understand? …
I do not understand how I am turning a blind eye to sexual abuse by Democrats when the only two people I named as abusers are Democrats.
Did you learn English as a second language or are you suffering from dyslexia?
You mentioned sexual abuse by Democrats. Long overdue and about time …
Counselor, do you not understand simple English?
Apparently not, since I haven’t any notion what you are talking about.
It looks like 2017 will eventually be remembered as the year when women started coming out of hiding and reporting events that made them feel ashamed, embarrassed and powerless years and decades ago.
There is no doubt that there will be, as there always have been, cases with wrongful accusations (making up a story to extort money and fame), but there is also absolutely no doubt that vast majority of the stories that are now coming out are genuine.
Without trying to justify, or minimise, the impact of these acts, we have to remember that not so long ago, our society was quite patriarchal, quite discriminatory and quite sexist. It wasn’t that there were more such people than those who weren’t any of those things; it was the norm of the society. There are still quite many people alive who lived during those times, and for those of you born since the 80s, there are films and TV shows that give you the picture.
If you were to look at a totem pole of power in America (and most of the rest of the world, for that matter), on top of that pole, there was a white man. A woman was distinctly below him. Regardless of the setting (workplace, family, social circles), the men had power over women. And power corrupts your mind, especially if you are surrounded by other men who think and act alike.
I am pretty sure everyone has a personal example of some sexist incident. My mother was one of the first female mechanical engineers in our homeland (obtaining her degree abroad, in the Soviet Russia at the time, in the late 40s). One of her first jobs was with the national railroad, and to get to any higher position, she had to start by stoking the fire in the (coal-fired steam) engine on the train. Shortly after, she was driving the trains (eventually going into management, then senior management). During her time when she was driving them, her cousin rode on the same train and saw her walk out of the locomotive in the railroad uniform before the train departure. “What are you doing here in that uniform?” “I’m driving this train!” “Dear god, I should get off then, let me get my stuff!” My mother told me that certainly wasn’t a joke, her cousin (a man) was almost sure he was going to die, because there is no way a woman, even his cousin with a degree from a Moscow university, could be smart enough to learn how to safely drive a train.
Lassiter has, for some time in the early 2000, been considered the most powerful man in Hollywood. While most who know him will say that he was by no means a lecherous creep, he was most certainly very much aware of his own might, and that allowed him to think that those kinds of personal physical contact are OK.
The momentum seems to be building towards this great social purge, after which many men will find themselves in a very strange situation. We don’t know if Steve Jobs was such a person or not, and we will likely never definitively find out (other than personal testimonies of those who knew him well), but it will be difficult to find a man who was in a position of relative power anytime during last century, who hadn’t at some point or another initiated a physical contact (an embrace, a peck on the cheek, a hand on the knee, or shoulder…) that was uninvited and that had caused discomfort.
Times are changing, and the newer generations of boys and young men are developing much stronger radars for sensing what is unwanted. But men of older generation have a lot of their past to be afraid of these days. I guess it is a price the society will need to pay, in order to finally understand the magnitude of the sexism and its consequences for the entire half of the human population.
Less than 15 seconds after I posted this (text which takes about 2 minutes to reed), there was a single star rating on it!
In other words, whoever rated the post hadn’t bothered to read it. As much as these ratings often reflect the opinion of users who read these boards, it is clear that there exist sad cases who take some things quite personally… These are most likely the same ones who rate their own posts with five stars as soon as they post them…
that was me, Happy Thanksgiving, Mr. Screed! 🙂
What an off topic voluminous tedious screed.
Brevity, PUHLEEZE! …
I’m confused. I thought the topic was the changing attitudes and new-found consequences for sexual harassment. You know, the fact that women now don’t “just let you get away with it if you are a star.” That is, after all, what the article is about.
How was Predrag’s post off-topic?
You certainly are “confused” …
Here’s a simple way to clarify my confusion. In 1988, Michael Dukakis lost the election to George H.W. Bush, in part because nobody believed him when he said that he could never support the death penalty for someone who raped and murdered his own wife.
Would you still vote for a Republican senatorial candidate over his opponent if the Republican had stuck his hands into your own 9th-grade daughter’s panties? An astonishing number of people in Alabama are claiming that they would. If they aren’t lying, they are deeply disturbed individuals.
Nooo, times aren’t changing. It probably makes you feel good to think they are, but half of the country is still ok if THEIR half is the half that does the molestation 🙂
I’d hate to think that you’re correct, and I am pretty sure you aren’t.
There is research data that points to this. In general, as the civil rights fight progresses from the racial struggles of the 50’s – 60’s to the gender equality, the trends are clear; gap has been narrowing, and the imbalance has been improving.
There is certainly a large number of men out there who are still convinced that these cases are much noise over nothing, but their numbers are steadily shrinking. The road ahead is still long, but we definitely are moving along.
Progressive leftist propaganda, rubbish, sir.
“”It looks like 2017 will eventually be remembered as the year when women started coming out of hiding and reporting events that made them feel ashamed, embarrassed and powerless years and decades ago.”
It looks like 2017 will be remembered as the year when Democrat women finally came out to refute the fake party of lip service women’s rights and prove once and for all, the Democrats OWN sexual harassment for the most part …
Good god, what a sorry excuse for a response!
The issue of gender equality clearly knows no boundaries, languages, religion or political parties, affecting literally the entire world.
Your little myopic view was through the glasses of local American tribal political fistfight. Of all the consequences this can and will have for about 3.5 billion people of the world (women’s share of the world population), all you could see was who was a Democrat and who Republican.
It must be truly sad to live a life where all information must be filtered through the American political duopoly. Sad.
“Good god, what a sorry excuse for a response!”
What a sorry excuse for a rebuttal is more like it.
“Your little myopic view was through the glasses of local American tribal political fistfight.”
“all you could see was who was a Democrat and who Republican”
What I see is the party of women’s rights, so called, is the party of the biggest abusers starting with Bill Clinton.
Got it? …
I see this site is a cess-pool of leftists who can’t take the truth and downvote anything that goes against their power, control, and domination over all life.
Absolutely correct, sir. The leftist cesspool has fantasy dogma, certainly not REALITY, on their side …
You two are hillarious! You should get a room…
Look, I’m not an American; I don’t fall into your R / D pigeon holes, I’m not a voter in your American elections. The only reason I follow what happens in your country is the fact that, by the virtue of it being big and powerful, it affects the rest of the world.
Look, I get that you have been having multiple orgasms over the past year, with your guys controlling the power in all three power points, and I’m sure it feels great.
However, I observe demographic trends in America, and if political platforms remain as they are today (with Democrats pushing their progressive, and Republicans their conservative agendas), there is no chance Republicans can ever again capture the White House. White Americans are on track to lose their majority share of the population in the next few decades, and every new generation of 18-year old voters that matures already has fewer whites than other minorities. With the Republican agenda that is increasingly more and more conservative (and evangelical), it is unrealistic to expect that a meaningful percentage of those non-whites will be voting for them.
Many things can happen in politics between now and the next presidential election, and nothing is ever certain, but for a foreign, non-involved observer, the demographic trend is quite clear and quite powerful.
The only thing left, for Republicans, to do at this point is to use the remaining year in total power to do as much “damage” as possible — legislate the hell out of their conservative agenda. One year from now, the Senate will more than likely change hands, and that will be the end of the American conservative agenda as we know it today.
“You two are hillarious! You should get a room…”
Like minded views is funny? Are you and TXuser love fest views funny? I guess to a Liberal with sex on the brain at all times, it is.
“Look, I get that you have been having multiple orgasms over the past year, with your guys controlling the power in all three power points, and I’m sure it feels great.”
Look, MORE sex on the brain! Do you liberals think about anything else?
“there is no chance Republicans can ever again capture the White House.”
Just the opposite. Republicans will control the White House very likely for 16 years. The Clinton Crime family bought and sold every shred of integrity in free and impartial elections and totally corrupted the DNC for years to come.
“White Americans are on track to lose their majority share of the population in the next few decades, and every new generation of 18-year old voters that matures already has fewer whites than other minorities.”
You seem pleased channeling TXuser. Even if Whites drop to 40% and no other ethnic group is larger than 40%, ah simple math, they STILL are the largest group of U.S. citizens by race.
“With the Republican agenda that is increasingly more and more conservative (and evangelical)”
Ooooohhhh, THE TWO dirty words for Liberals, the evil and dreaded “conservative” and “evangelical.” You got a problem with good people who are cautious and conservative in life’s decisions? You have a problem with good people that worship God and build strong families?
Of course you do. Guess you and your pals are all about sex, drugs and whatever else you deem important and most likely you have never seen the inside of a church, funerals the one exception.
“Many things can happen in politics between now and the next presidential election, and nothing is ever certain, but for a foreign, non-involved observer, the demographic trend is quite clear and quite powerful.”
Yeah, OK TXuser. You do realize the both of you time and time again, more than all the MDN posters combined, consistently and carefully put out your resumes of where you live and who you are. That is the TIPOFF. But hey, doesn’t really matter — enjoy yourselves.
“The only thing left, for Republicans, to do at this point is to use the remaining year in total power to do as much “damage” as possible — legislate the hell out of their conservative agenda. One year from now, the Senate will more than likely change hands, and that will be the end of the American conservative agenda as we know it today.”
The only thing left for Democrats to do at this point is to SALVAGE a devastated and thoroughly CORRUPT PARTY that no longer cares about “we the people.”
And you’re wrong declaring a conservative agenda. It is the people’s agenda that will care for everyone in BOTH PARTIES. Keep up your divisive agenda talk Libtard, it’s all you got left.
When tax cuts pass and the economy explodes, to the moon, Alice! … 🚀🌛
… said someone who, a few posts above, said: “Brevity, PUHLEEZE! …”
So much for brevity…
…”You do realize the both of you time and time again, […] consistently and carefully put out your resumes of where you live and who you are. That is the TIPOFF.”…
That sounded quite a lot like a veiled threat. Should I be worried? Am I to expect some second amendment people at my door….?
…”Just the opposite. Republicans will control the White House very likely for 16 years.….
Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, …!!! He, he, he, he, he, …!!!! No, not 16; 24 years… no, wait; 32 years! Hooo, hoo, hoo….!!!!
Look, It is really fascinating to see someone so fanatically drunk by party politics that they are incapable of rational thought, but that’s OK. My only concern is, when things flip around (and they will flip), and people who think like you refuse to accept that reality, then some “second amendment” people may end up taking things in their own hands.
America has, for the longest time, been the world’s shining example of how even dirtiest of politics still results in a civil process of continued governance, with people taking pride in their democratic and their constitutional republic. However, the recent years have apparently brought a deepening chasm between two fairly large chunks of the country’s population, poisoned by the most vulgar political discourse. If this schism continues to grow, these peoples will inevitably pick up their constitutionally protected firearms and try to sort it out on their own.
Perhaps times were better when the only way to get the news was to watch Walter Cronkite…
You want, brevity?
Here goes: Not only are you incapable of addressing my posts specifically, because you have nowhere to go, you wander off into the weeds AGAIN with off topic garbage …
Thanks for your repeated attempts to bring some sanity to this issue. Sexual harassment and discrimination are truly nonpartisan. It is almost as perverted as the original perversion itself to play the “I’m holier than thou” card when both parties have spectacular examples of sub-civilized beastly behavior
I am happy to stay away from politics entirely, but I’m not going to let somebody bring up examples from just one party when there is plenty of blame to go around.
I have suspected for a long time that TXuser and Predrag are one in the same. If not the case, no matter.
The “sanity” is the Democratic Party are the serial abusers and poster child for sexual harassment.
The petty bland platitudes you espouse do not change the facts …
TXUser is clearly an American. I am not. That anyone could possibly believe that the two of us are the same person clearly says that either they didn’t bother reading one single post from either of us, or has comprehension issues.
You need to get a real life, outside of MDN forums.
You did not deny you two are one in the same. Just more wandering weeds deflection …
??? I did not deny? Did you not read my post??
Once again (for the slow ones):
TXUser is clearly an American. I am not. I don’t know where TXUser lives, but his user name may imply he is in Texas. I have never been to Texas in my life. I currently live in NYC.
Sheesh! Some people are really that slow…!
Spare me the geography assumptions where people live. You don’t know for certain, and I don’t know.
A simple YES or NO will suffice …
Yes or no what? Yes, I am a different person from TX User.
No, him and I are not the same. We are two different people. He is TX User, I am Predrag. Notice different user names. Also, different life stories (If I remember correctly, some time ago, he mentioned that he used to be a prosecutor). I am NOT a lawyer. I am a musician (by training).
I really can’t make this any simpler than this.
There are some conspiracy cooks out there for sure, but this one takes the cake…
I don’t eat cake. OK, take you at your word even though the two of you always arrive at the same time …
You all may have heard of Occam’s Razor—the rule that when there are two different explanations possible for the same body of evidence, the simpler explanation is almost always the correct one.
The simplest explanation for Predrag and I agreeing on things is that… (drumroll please)… we agree on those things, and disagree on others. Similarly, the simplest explanation for GeoB, botvinnik, and twimoon1 is that they are separate people who often agree.
The explanation that Predrag and I are actually the same person who has elaborately constructed two different fictitious biographies so he or she can post under two user names (for some unaccountable reason) is far more complex and therefore far less likely. Yet that, or some variation on the theory that both of us are lying about our backgrounds, has become GeoB’s prime excuse to avoid responding to the substance of our comments.
Since I am the retired lawyer and not the musician, I am the one who has done hundreds of mental commitment hearings. A consistent theme across many of them was that the proposed patient consistently ignored Occam’s Razor. He preferred complex conspiracy theories to simple explanations. He ignored whatever facts did not fit into his theories and substituted untrue “alternative facts” (unrecognized fantasies or conscious lies) that did fit the theory. It is troublesome to see so many people exhibiting the same symptoms out in the wild.
“The explanation that Predrag and I are actually the same person who has elaborately constructed two different fictitious biographies so he or she can post under two user names (for some unaccountable reason) is far more complex and therefore far less likely.”
How about a direct answer, yes or no? …
Yes, we are different people. No, we are not the same person. Yes, I am a Republican retired prosecutor in Texas. No, I am not a resident alien musician in New York. Yes, I know who I am. No, I have no reason to disbelieve Predrag about who he is.
Yes, that is the truth. No, I do not expect that to be clear enough for you.
Now, answer my question you ignored above:
Would you still vote for a Republican senatorial candidate over his Democrat opponent even if you knew with absolute certainty that the Republican had used his status as a 32-year-old criminal prosecutor to persuade a 14-year-old ninth-grader (perhaps your own daughter) to let him take off her clothes and feel between her legs?
That is my bottom-line test of whether partizan politics has completely trumped morality in America.
Fair enough …
Still no reply to my question, I see. Possibilities:
1. You would not vote for the Republican (even if you didn’t vote for the Democrat, either). Good answer.
2. You would vote for the Republican because you think it is even more important to support the party than to protect girls from child abuse. Bad answer.
3. You don’t see a problem with molesting 14-year-olds. Horrible answer.
Which is it?
Still nothing but chirping crickets after 45 hours.
Harassment itself may indeed be non-partisan, but the media response to it is decidedly not. Since the public response and media coverage is part of the issue, then it is decidedly a partisan issue.
“…we have to remember that not so long ago, our society was quite patriarchal, quite discriminatory and quite sexist.”
So the fix is to exchange male dominated anti female power society with a female dominated, anti male power society; which is also just as sexist.
I suspect leftist Predrag, would not have a problem with reverse discrimination …
I would like to see exactly where did anyone (ANYONE) suggest we implement this “reverse discrimination”.
What “female-dominated, anti-male power society” is being advocate, by whom and where?
All I’m seeing is reports of men in power abusing their position of power in order to grab some ass on the go (and get away with it).
My post was simple, do you have a problem with it or not?
Spare us the weeds wandering deflective response …
“but it will be difficult to find a man who was in a position of relative power anytime during last century, who hadn’t at some point or another initiated a physical contact (an embrace, a peck on the cheek, a hand on the knee, or shoulder…) that was uninvited and that had caused discomfort.”
Really? I have to wonder if you are projecting.
Well, you have found one here who has NOT done that.
You are a jerk!
Yes, indeed. An apologist JERK! …
Compared to Saudi Arabia’s treatment of women, men in the US are shining stars……
Islam’s favorite Olympic event: Minaret Woman Toss.
Gee, next you’ll be telling us that Hitler was a shining star because he caused fewer deaths than Stalin.
Comparing bad to worse doesn’t make bad into good.
Funny thing about all of this is: Let’s just take Cook for example. He is most likely disgusted with this and the treatment of gays, etc., but yet, still does business with countries that oppress women and gays. Why? The almighty $$$$$$. So basically, he is a money grubbing whore and a false shill and hypocrite. And he is just one in the stinking rotten barrel of slime that we call corporate america. The $ wins again above all else. Mr. Cook, put your money where you mouth is and stop doing business with repressive regimes.
There aren’t enough customers in San Marino to keep Apple’s doors open.
This is perennial knee-jerk response, a rubber-stamp, cookie-cutter reply about western business doing business in lands with presumably less-than-impeccable moral standards of USA.
Apple (and all other American and western companies) have two choices when it comes to affecting change in countries with human rights issues: they can purport to take the moral high ground and refuse to do business, or they could go in and engage. When you do business in some country and the volume of your business begins to provide employment to a meaningful number of people, you get a voice with that country’s government. The voice grows louder in direct proportion to the volume of business you do with that country.
So, either you can skip Saudi Arabia, and let China sell iPhone knock-offs there, or go in, sell your iPhones, and pressure those Saudi’s princess into pushing that bar up a bit.
One last thing: Apple isn’t a charity. Cook is a CEO of a publicly traded company, owned by the shareholders. His primary responsibility is to the shareholders. This doesn’t prevent him from pushing for social justice whenever and wherever possible, but key word there is possible. In 2016, Apple’s US taxes were $15 billion (with a B). For that money, Apple gets a very loud voice in the US. In other countries, their voice is proportionately quieter, as is their business presence. But make no mistake, Apple (and Cook as its CEO) uses their voice anywhere and everywhere they can to push for all those progressive things, not because Cook is gay, but because they are good for business. If they weren’t, they wouldn’t be pushing them (or Cook would have been fired long ago).
No evidence his social justice warrior issues are good for business, and no evidence that the BOD cares if they are good for business.
No, the fix is for all you white supremacist
Talk about a reading comprehension problem that totally ignores twimoon1 post that is 100% spot on.
And then after your ignorance you go on to ugly label an anonymous poster a white a supremacist?!? Without proof!?!?
You are totally out of line FAKE prosecutor and your most telling post to date. Libtards such as you eventually lose it and reveal themselves. Today is your day …
Exactly what would be the evidence that would convince you? Let us see some facts: Apple is currently the most valuable publicly traded company in the US (no, the world), with market valuation of almost trillion US dollars (with a T). They have been reporting record breaking profits in most of the last 20 quarters (since Cook has been at the helm). They have continued to dominate customer satisfaction rankings, as well as receive glowing reviews from experts for every new product that they release.
I would really like to know exactly how much better Apple could perform, so that we could determine if what they have been doing (with respect to hiring minorities) was beneficial or detrimental for business. Based on objective data, it is hard to imagine any one company could do better.
twimoon1 posted SJW issues show no evidence they are good for the company. Your post did nothing to refute or prove otherwise. I know people that will never buy Apple products because of the overt politics Cook cooked up while defying Steve’s company policy to stay OUT of politics altogether …
For every one person you bring that refuses to buy Apple due to Cook politics, I can bring three that switched to Apple precisely because Apple has showed it cares about not just white heterosexual men.
Regardless of that fairly ridiculous point (anecdotal evidence does not equal actual data), by eliminating hiring bias and expanding the pool of talent to everyone, not just hetero people, Apple can recruit better talent.
It does require a functioning brain, but the point is actually fairly easy to understand.
Let me be clear for the deflective artist that goes by Predrag and TXuser.
I am 100% in favor of Apple’s diversity. Never said I wasn’t and I have gay relatives that I love dearly.
I’ll try to make my point again and hopefully it will penetrate that thick defensive skull of yours. For Apple to play SJW warrior and engage the company in partisan politics by choosing winners and losers has consequences.
Know many people that will not touch Apple with a ten-foot pole because of leftist politics, is ALL I WAS SAYING.
You clearly cannot COMPREHEND the bottom line. One forever lost Apple customer to leftist politics is one too many. Follow Steve’s mantra and stay OUT of politics and the company will grow even bigger …
And let me be clear for whoever goes by GoeB (apparently, it has to be written in an extremely simple, easy to understand language):
For every person you bring that refuses to buy Apple because of Cook’s social declarations, I can bring three that will switch to Apple because of that. And let me add one more to that: I will bring three more who will refuse to buy Apple if the company doesn’t take a progressive stand on social issues.
The point is, Apple cannot afford to avoid taking a stand. That will cost them more business than alienating a few evangelical conservatives. (Yes, i used those “liberal boogieman” words!)
“And let me be clear for whoever goes by GoeB (apparently, it has to be written in an extremely simple, easy to understand language):”
Certainly, easy to understand language is ALWAYS best. The wandering in the weeds hallmark of your posts is an unnecessary distraction.
“For every person you bring that refuses to buy Apple because of Cook’s social declarations, I can bring three that will switch to Apple because of that.”
“And let me add one more to that: I will bring three more who will refuse to buy Apple if the company doesn’t take a progressive stand on social issues.”
“The point is, Apple cannot afford to avoid taking a stand. That will cost them more business than alienating a few evangelical conservatives. (Yes, i used those “liberal boogieman” words!)”
The point is Apple should NOT be taking a political stand EITHER WAY. Read Steve’s words again and again until it SINKS IN.
” alienating a few evangelical conservatives.” A few? Obvious you have hard numbers to back up your ridiculous opinion?
The people I know that will not touch Apple because of divisive politics are Jewish and Roman Catholic. For you stereotype and besmirch religious groups is a new low for liberals.
Apple should not be in the business to alienate anyone. Is that clear and simple enough for you to comprehend? …
How is any company supposed to avoid taking political stands?
Tax policy directly affects Apple’s business. If it does not take a stand and support Apple-friendly policies, it could lose billions of dollars.
Immigration policy directly affects Apple’s business. They cannot replace the foreign engineers who design their hardware and software with unemployed coal miners. If they do not take a stand on those issues, it will impact the company’s bottom line.
Non-discrimination policies directly affect Apple’s business. If they cannot transfer a transgendered employee to a state or city where he will be able to use the bathroom, it adversely affects their operations. If Apple fails to support him, many other employees will assume that the company will fail to support them. Morale and productivity will be impaired, as will recruiting in affected communities. Failure to take a stand will be interpreted as taking a stand in favor of the status quo.
Ditto for taking a stand on gender discrimination, including sexual harassment. Failure to take a stand isn’t possible, because silence would be interpreted as taking a stand for the status quo. That would be unacceptable to most of Apple’s constituent communities.
Sorry, I posted a venting before I had a chance to reflect on it.
What I intended to say was there there is quite a bit of evidence that the policies of Tim Cook and his Board are good for business. In fact, there are almost a TRILLION pieces of evidence worth $1 each to support that notion.
What is the name of the TRILLION-dollar company that you run according to your anti-social justice principles? Where is any such company run by anyone?
It seems that for some cooks on this site, your posts and mine are similar enough in substance (or style) that they have theory that we are one and the same person.
This has been the most amusing conspiracy theory I had heard in a while…. For someone (anyone) to spend time posting on MDN (of all places) carefully switching between two user IDs, meticulously maintaining two separate identities and personas… Some people clearly have too much free time.