OS X El Capitan fear mongering

“The other day I read an article from someone who was basically warning us off OS X El Capitan,” Gene Steinberg writes for The Tech Night Owl. “While he hadn’t actually installed the new OS, he cited threads on Apple’s discussions forums describing a litany of problems that included incompatible apps and the inability to access external drives.”

“I did check the Apple discussions and found lots of problems, precisely as the blogger stated. But not all of them had large numbers of participants reporting similar problems,” Steinberg writes. “Unless a problem is fairly consistent, it may be the result of a system oddity with a few installations. It takes more than that to take it seriously, but the article makes no attempt to weigh the importance of those complaints.”

“My personal experience with El Capitan at this early stage is mostly solid. Mail has a tendency to briefly stall, but will resume normal operation in less than 30 seconds. Maybe it’s about background processing of large message folders, but I’m shooting from the hip,” Steinberg writes. “El Capitan strikes me as a pretty solid release.”

Read more in the full article here.

MacDailyNews Take: Very few issue with OS X El Capitan here (some with Safari 9.0 involving some sites constantly pestering for login credentials than did not happen with previous Safari versions, but that’s about it overall), how about you?


  1. El Capitan is a big step forward from Yosemite. It restores TRIM support for third-party Solid State Drives. It’s also faster.

    The only change I would want would be to change the behavior of the new green full-screen button back to being the maximize button and make it able to be a full-screen button by holding the Option key while clicking on it, or going back to the arrows in the top-right corner of the program, just like it was in Lion and Mountain Lion.

    Though, I’d also like the old 3D Dock back without having to temporarily disable SIP for cDock and without having to have an extra startup program.

      1. When I double click the tool bar, it minimizes the window to the dock, which is the same behavior as single clicking the yellow dot. How to I get my windows to maximize the way you did it?

    1. El Capitan is hopeless. Thank god I only installed it on one machine and backed it up beforehand. On my MacBook Pro it has bricked Calendar, constantly loses internet connection when using Safari and has played havoc with Mail and iCloud. Do not install until they get an update to this buggy POS.

      1. It’s hopeless from a design/aesthetics perspective with no ability to skin. And that’s true on every single installation, 100% of the time. Like your UI looking like the love child of Windows and Crayola? No thanks.

  2. So far I’ve put it on my 2010 iMac and noticed no issues over and above those I used to get in Yosemite, and in the meantime it’s noticeably faster. Maybe when I come to do the rMBP things will be different, but all in all I’m pretty happy with the new OS X.

  3. The last two updates have caused my iTunes to ‘lose’ my music. This s was quite upsetting the first time as I have nearly 5000 CDs burned. I know how to fix it now, but there is still no reason for this. It’s just sloppy. Otherwise I’ve not noticed any other issues.

    1. This is a symptom of the larger problem: the more that one invests your data onto OS X, the higher the downside risk from stuff that Apple changes.

      My reluctance comes from over 1TB in iPhoto which was corrupted by the “improved” Photos POS. Lost a good half man-week recovering & reverting as a temporary patch; going to lose a man-month converting everything out of the Apple ecosystem to another vendor who won’t blindside me….Loghtroom is the short list candidate right now, which will also make me OS-agnostic, so my Mac Pro’s very well be replaced with Windows PC towers because the “trash can” hardware also doesn’t meet my use case needs.

  4. No problems here. I have been using the beta since July. I never ran into any Microsoft Office 2016 issues either (I know, I know, I have to use it for work). It has been a completely smooth transition.

  5. This is the first OS that has crashed my Mac and required me to revert to the previous OX ever! I go back to the first Mac announced in 1984 with system and finder on a 400k disk. I have never had so much problem installing a new release. I’m afraid to try it again.

    1. Robert – same here, on reboot El Capitan bricked my iMac, I don’t suppose you also have a mid 2011 27inch 3.1Ghz i5 iMac do you? I had to re-install from a yosemite backup. Like you too scared to reinstall El Capitan. Never had an issue with a new OS until now.

      1. Same here. My MBPro is totally bricked thanks to El Capitan. I can’t even restore back to Yosemite. Been using Macs since 1984. This is the first time an OS install has totally bricked my machine.

    2. I had quite a bit of trouble clean installing it. Booting off of a memory stick it would get to ‘1 second remaining’ in the first ‘preparing to install’ step and then stop. Finally had to fully install the OS to an SD card, create an account et al, then boot off of that card and run a copy of the installer. This was on a Mid-2012 MacBook Pro. Seems to be running OK. Just little glitches here and there.

  6. I’ve been having trouble with mail. Mail comes in fine but won’t go out. The fix I read is to delete the mail accounts that don’t work and reinstall them. Not a great solution. Has something to do with authentication and the ports somehow getting changed. I’ve also discovered that there is a keyboard bug where it is very slow in refreshing.

  7. El Capitan loaded flawlessly and seemed very stable and snappy on my 2011 (mid) 27inch 3.1Ghz i5 IMac. Unfortunately when I did a restart for the first time it bricked my iMac, I couldn’t even get in via safe mode. The same thing seems to have happened with this particular model to other people. Luckily I had time machine backups from Yosemite so I had to reinstall back to 10.10. I’m on capped wifi, so there’s no way I’ll be downloading El Capitan again.A real shame the download file gets deleted on installation. Overal El Capitan felt stable when it was working.

  8. Here’s one big problem that El Capitan has not fixed and that remains unresolved since Mountain Lion – still cannot search external SMB drives. This is such a hassle for anyone who keep files on external SMB drives on a network. I can’t imagine how businesses are dealing with this issue. I can’t believe that Apple has not fixed this fundamental flaw.

  9. For the most part, the transition is very smooth. Some Effects in Adobe Audition cause the app to crash under El Capitan, but I keep a second MBP running Yosemite until that issue is fixed.

    I had a kernel panic yesterday with El Capitan, the first panic since my old G5 tower. I’m not sure what caused it, I had a lot of apps running as well as a midi keyboard and microphone attached. It recovered from the kernel panic quickly and smoothly, though.

  10. El Cap broke some important software so I went back to Yosemite until I found alternatives. I reinstalled El Cap and discovered that Mail no longer supports iCloud email aliases (IOW if someone sends an email to an alias and you reply, Mail sends the reply from your main email address and there’s no longer a dropdown to choose an alternative) so I’m back to Yosemite. Maybe I’ll try it again in a few months but I don’t feel I’m missing anything.

  11. Apple’s support discussions are not always a good indicator of problems, and they’re often filled with “me too” posts that are totally useless. What’s more, the people posting don’t bother to tell us about their hacks and other bad habits that could very well be the cause of their issues.

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