“Now that Apple has revealed Apple Pay, PayPal wants to have it both ways,” Owen Thomas reports for ReadWrite. “On the one hand, PayPal is eager to let you know that its Braintree subsidiary can process Apple Pay payments, no problem—even though Apple left PayPal and Braintree off its list of recommended payments processors.”
“On the other, PayPal is eager to remind you that it has processed billions of transactions and that Apple doesn’t have the best track record on security,” Thomas reports, “thanks to vulnerabilities in its iCloud backups that left celebrities vulnerable to photo thefts.”
MacDailyNews Take: PayPal knows that phished passwords – poor, too-easily-guessed passwords – from celebrity accounts have absolutely nothing to do with Apple Pay, but, obviously, PayPal thinks their customers are stupid enough to believe their lies. Is that a company you want handling your money?
“So on Monday PayPal took out full-page advertisements in the New York Times, USA Today, and San Francisco Chronicle declaring that online shoppers ‘want our money safer than our selfies,'” Thomas reports. “The ads follow a much softer jab at Apple last week in PayPal’s blog, where it suggested consumers and merchants should ask themselves, “‘Do they trust the brand that’s managing their payments?'”
Read more and see PayPal’s lyin’ ad in the full article here.
MacDailyNews Take: Once again, PayPal knows that phished passwords – poor, too-easily-guessed passwords – from celebrity accounts have absolutely nothing to do with Apple Pay, but, obviously, PayPal thinks their customers are stupid enough to believe their lies. Is that a company you want handling your money?
Obviously, you’re scared, PayPal. Don’t let your fear cause you to stoop to outright lies.
Apple Watch. Apple Pay. iPhones 6 and Plus. So much fear this week!
It’s a good thing we love the smell of fear in the morning, afternoon, and night.
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Considering that eBay suffered a major system intrusion back in May that compromised millions of accounts, this is beyond foolhardy.
Was just about to mention this very thing. Oh, and you’re not very good PayPal. I use you due to the lack of any good competition. Thankfully, that’s about to change…
When your promotional materials must cite a competitor, you are losing the psychological game with your customers.
Yeah personally I always thought Paypal was kind of creepy and useless. I use them as little as humanly possible Be glad for better fruity alternatives.
Same here. I don’t like using paypal
I don’t like that they will not allow a credit card as the default payment type. They always default to a bank account and you must manually change to a credit card for every transaction. I maintain a PayPal account because of the monopoly they have at eBay. I hope that monopoly goes away soon.
Keep hoping. PayPal is owned by eBay.
I have never, and will never, give PayPal or Apple Pay my bank account number. I only use my Credit Card.
Apple doesn’t discriminate against their customers for having differing political/religious/etc views, like PayPal does..
What are you talking about? Is that a story?
Multiple stories. Do research.
Go ahead and buy a simple PART that is used in a firearm and have the charge labeled as a firearm part… your account will be frozen and funds seized.
They’ve shut down charity drives that have set up a PayPal account.. simply cause it was a Christian charity drive.
PayPal has been at the center of many lawsuits, they even changed their ToS a few years back to make it impossible to sue them to get your money back… (Class Action)
You could opt out, but that meant closing your account with them.
“Do research”, or “Google it”, is not a source, just fyi.
just for you.. Since you can’t do any searching on your own.
(and MDN doesn’t exactly like URL’s posted for discussions off site btw.)
http://www.rightsidesd.com/?p=5687
http://www.networkworld.com/article/2449571/microsoft-subnet/paypal-protonmail-email-encryption-nsa-kickstarter.html
There was a story early this year about Paypal specifically going after the accounts of individuals involved in the adult film industry. They singled out a whole bunch of people doing something perfectly legal, but apparently amoral in the eyes of Paypal. They blocked their accounts from transactions that were perfectly legit.
Yeah, what are you talking about?
Now I think I know how was behind the iCloud conspiracy. I had a theory it had something to do with apple pay. There is way to much money at stake.
PayPal and Samsung are partners, so it makes sense.
http://www.forbes.com/sites/anthonykosner/2014/02/25/samsung-and-paypal-move-against-apple-with-galaxy-s5-finger-swipe-payments/
PayPal can die a long slow death as far as I’m concerned. This ad is ridiculous (people economy? Wtf?). PayPal should be glad they have eBay locked up and stfu.
No, I’m never using PayPal at Home Depot. So stop asking and stop expecting.
Btw, you’re about to be shown how it’s done. Take out your pencils. School’s starting.
Thanks MDN for your straight fearless comments … I just cancelled my PayPal account and will never use them again. How could I let a company which lacks integrity handle my money?
“Crush your enemies. See them driven before you. And hear the lamentation of their women.”
Just logged into my PayPal account and left them a feedback calling them out on it and chastising them for looking like puerile whiners. Told them to think about who has the more loyal users…
If you want to really get their attention, do the same thing I just did. I deleted my credit card and checking account from my “PayPal Wallet”
Newspaper ad? LOL.
Dropped PayPal ages ago.
Stupid, stupid, stupid.
It would suit PayPal better to seek an alliance with Apple than fighting them.
An ApplePay / PayPal alliance would be a win/win situation.
This position doesn’t help PayPal, Apple nor (most important) us, consumers.
Paypal has a point. If Cook refuses to fix his IMAP email debacle, which has hosed his enterprise clients since Mavericks was introduced, how can we expect to handle the bigger issues?
I spoke to Tim Cook about your little problem and he told me to tell you he’s personally working on it and should have it fixed in a few days. He said it would help if you held your breath until he sends you an email by way of IMAP. He’s such a friendly CEO.
😉
I stopped reading at the word “IMAP”. Get a life.
Same here. Yawn.
I just consider such articles more background noise that may lower Apple’s share price due to overzealous copycat articles but won’t touch Apple product sales at all. I doubt most of the people whose credit cards were compromised at Home Depot stopped going there and headed off for Lowes. There was probably some soul-searching for a while but once they needed some more home products, likely went back to their local Home Depot. Most consumers don’t give up familiarity and convenience that easily.
The answer to their question is, of course: I do not trust a company that would lie to the public.
I learned the hard way years ago: if you pay by Paypal, you aren’t protected at all (no refund possible). If you use your Paypal debit card, you are protected. That’s because the debit card has all the protections of MasterCard. In other words, Paypal will only protect your transaction if forced to do so.
That is simply not true.
I have used PayPal for years and had no trouble at all with resolution of disputed transactions. Using PayPal as a buffer between your accounts and online shops is an extra layer of protection.
I am currently testing American Express Serve as a replacement for PayPal, but have never had anything but excellent customer service from them.
‘Paypal as a buffer’ is tantamount to theft in my book.
As a retailer, Paypals terms are outrageous. Customer insists they don’t want or care about insurance – they sign a waiver – something goes wrong and Paypal just takes the retailers money. No conversation, no appeal, nothing. Just a person claiming something is amiss (not always the case) the retailer looses their item, shipping money and the sale.
The common ‘solution’ is to always insure the item and force all customers to pay the fees (high in Australia) which is unacceptable.
Visa / MasterCard / Amex never an issue – nearly 100% track record.
On the other foot, as a buyer, Paypal has a number of times left me high and dry with completely fraudulent sellers. They always charge 3x the industry standard for cc cards, and the foreign exchange rate is a rort.
PayPal are pathetic and only showing their true colours in this advert run IMO
Last couple years, the press, social media, critics slammed “Apple doesn’t innovate anymore”. But now Apple is a threat to other companies due to its innovations. Damn you if you do, damn you if you don’t.
Apple has many enemies as it continues to innovate and disrupt. The media trumpets the “no innovation” montra because they are paid to slander by those being disrupted and because in the war of propaganda an opponent’s greatest strengths are always attacked with vigor.
DOJ is going to sue Apple and force them to share their fingerprint and other related Apple pay technology with other so Apple will not have a monopoly on secure “cardless” payments. Just a matter of time.
And to fight back apples credit card disrupting initiative..
Paypal sent me a paypal/ mastercard Credit card in the mail today..
A bit out to lunch if u ask me.
And i love paypal … I have so far…But if they choose to get into this Fud buisness rather than improve their product .. My positive feelings fir them wont last for too long !
I wrote paypal and gave thrm a piece if my mind.
Hope everyone does.
Here is the lnk
https://secure.opinionlab.com/ccc01/comment_card.asp?time1=1410847669865&time2=1410847697163&prev=https%3A%2F%2Fwww%2Epaypal%2Ecom%2F&referer=https:%2F%2FUS%2Epaypal%2Ecom%2Fen%2F00%2F%27%27%2Epage&height=1024&width=768&custom_var=AweOAIixi9xUuGevItvaS1TvTquea6MxBcf7mPR3sde%252FKpF3gYDdhxHEolCCcoGqcQJgS6BS2tCQhRCuPijyIcU%252BbZd%252FlBI0nacNGVNCmyM_1487d12f5ef|Unknown|main:helpcenter:helphub::home|US|en|Unknown|Unknown|Unknown|Unknown
This seems liable on their part. They are trying to associate a nonexistent breach (guessing passwords is not a breach.) with a services that does not exist, so the service would fail because people would believe the untrue message?
Is sooner trust Apple than PayPal.
Even if the celeb selfie hack wasn’t caused by phishing, but instead caused by some lack of security on ’s part (I think my brain just twisted into a pretzel even trying to consider that implausibility …), there’s a big difference between selfies and credit cards. If PayPal didn’t want to be disingenuous (brain just twisted again), they would look at how many credit card hacks iTunes has been involved in … I believe that answer is 0!
The United Hates has committed crimes against humanity, poor, extremely obvious crimes to humanity, from invasion of sovereign nations to torture that have absolutely nothing with civilized behavior, but obviously, the United Hates thinks the free world is stupid enough to believe their lies. Is this a country you on want on meddling away on your planet?
Obviously you are scared Amurdercans, you can see the ties being severed and you are getting a very good idea where you are heading. Iraq War 3 the sequel, so much fear since 9/11.
It’s a good thing that the people of the civilized world love or you’d have no morning afternoon or night.
Tell me folks how does that come off? Is it funny? Is it hilarious?Offer available to free worlders please, can’t expect the others to get it. That’s why they have this special /shjtt take just for them so that they know it’s satire, humor, joke and/or a tall tale.
Enjoy the love of your morning, afternoon and night.
Alrighty then..
How come people in tech industry are so obnoxious when it comes to Apple or they just choose to be STUPID.
Humph. Parade of FUD and nonsense:
On the other, PayPal is eager to remind you that… Apple doesn’t have the best track record on security, thanks to vulnerabilities in its iCloud backups that left celebrities vulnerable to photo thefts.
Bullshit alert!
Meanwhile, PayPal gets to deal with this:
eBay goes down for 10th time this year amid Internet blackouts
And yes, when eBay’s servers go down, that means PayPal’s servers go down. Same company. Same servers.
So, much as I like you PayPal, please do STFU, deal with your own problems, and stop pulling FUD maneuvers. Treat your customers with some modicum of respect. Lying is for louses. Competition is for champions.
all this talk about NOT TRUSTING Apple – where does it come from?!
1.when has Apple in its history proven untrustworthy?
2.you seriously rather trust other companies?!
3. Apple has never acted maliciously, anti-privacy, always trying more than anyone to protect what stupid PayPal calls “protecting the people economy” or “people rule” – as if Apple has not done this more than anyone!
4.Apple does not spy or sell your privacy to 3rd parties or gov.
5. No one has the software/hardware knowledge of Apple, so their cloud is trustworthier – logically. show me another firm that uses as much skill/talent and has the resources/$ to build a more efficient/safer/better cloud
6. the Selfies debacle is stupid.
a. it could be flummoxed competition FUD/bribery/sabotage
b. if you’re a celeb and take nudes and online, it’s your stupid responsibility
c. if you then use easy passwords, you’re even dumber than in b.
d. stop blaming everyone else for your problems, act maturely, professionally, sincerely and look at yourself: admit your mistakes, move on. breaking the balls of someone else for your weakness is criminal, stupid, unworthy, retarded. as Gandhi said: BE the Change you wish to see in the world. there is no excuse or scapegoat.
be smart.
PayPal was always a devious pain in the ass.
now it’s lowered itself into a fool.
you do not win by fear!
iSteve was right:
Competition is Flummoxed!